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Link Posted: 4/18/2014 7:25:47 AM EDT
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Thank you....a large Velociraptor is only 3.5' tall, and they were not pack hunters.  
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Funny thing is the Raptor is only the size of a turkey.  Jurassic Park really made it mainstream and now that is the publics perception of the dinosaur.

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12ga, #4 birdshot
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Yup....a good turkey load would work great.
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why didn't they pick the bigger one for the movies then?  less cool of a name?
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Crows are fucking smart, for those who don't know. As in "fashion tools to solve problems" smart.
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Velociraptors were the size of a large turkey.  Utahraptor was as big as a polar bear.  Now you are aware.



Less body mass than a turkey- more like a big peacock.

Bawk bawk...

I like the theories that they were smart, but you have to realize that "smart" in a reptilian context is still not exactly all that bright...


Considering they're more closely related to birds than reptiles, apply the intelligence of crows or ravens to a raptor and see what you come up with.

Remember.  The clever girls are problem solvers.


Crows are fucking smart, for those who don't know. As in "fashion tools to solve problems" smart.


Fashion tools? Show me. Looking for some crow literature too.

And yet they still don't inspire terror...

Ninjas? Little pint sized ninjas perhaps. Bet you could deep fry them like a turkey once you got the hide off.
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Fashion tools? Show me. Looking for some crow literature too.

And yet they still don't inspire terror...

Ninjas? Little pint sized ninjas perhaps. Bet you could deep fry them like a turkey once you got the hide off.
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Crows....smart?  Cunning maybe, but not smart.  Animals do not understand the concept of bullets, at all.  They only know survival.  Smart is not the word that I would use.
Link Posted: 4/18/2014 7:46:39 AM EDT
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One reason was because they had to be able to fit a person in the puppet.  Plus they look more scary when they are larger and dont have any feathers.

Here is a pic of the model they used to make the suit.



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Im here!
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Yeah, UtahRaptor is the one to really worry about.
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Yeah, UtahRaptor is the one to really worry about.
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Yeah, UtahRaptor is the one to really worry about.


Always the damn Mormons, fucking shit up.
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Yo!  Right here.  What to wrassle?
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Always the damn Mormons, fucking shit up.
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Always the damn Mormons, fucking shit up.



Link Posted: 4/18/2014 8:36:56 AM EDT
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The Raptor always gets a bad rap.  But it's really how you raise them.

This reminds me, didn't get the wife anything for Raptor day, think Wally World has anything left?
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The Raptor always gets a bad rap.  But it's really how you raise them.

This reminds me, didn't get the wife anything for Raptor day, think Wally World has anything left?
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I went by Hallmark earlier. They still had some cards left.

Link Posted: 4/18/2014 8:55:00 AM EDT
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Yo!  Right here.  What to wrassle?
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Arm wrestle? Sure.
Link Posted: 4/18/2014 9:00:16 AM EDT
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Yup....a good turkey load would work great.
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Yup....a good turkey load would work great.

Shot from an SPAS 12
Link Posted: 4/18/2014 9:24:31 AM EDT
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Yo!  Right here.  What to wrassle?


Let me guess, you get your dinosaur knowledge from movies? The UtahRaptor was a lot larger than standard Raptors. They were Apex Predators during their reign. It's now believed that T-Rex's we're scavengers as they had neither the agility, speed or formable claws.

Again, a human back in the Jurassic or Mesozoic time wouldn't have lasted long even armed to the teeth.

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Link Posted: 4/18/2014 9:25:58 AM EDT
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Let me guess, you get your dinosaur knowledge from movies? The UtahRaptor was a lot larger than standard Raptors. They were Apex Predators during their reign. It's now believed that T-Rex's we're scavengers as they had neither the agility, speed or formable claws.

Again, a human back in the Jurassic or Mesozoic time wouldn't have lasted long even armed to the teeth.

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Let me guess, you get your dinosaur knowledge from movies? The UtahRaptor was a lot larger than standard Raptors. They were Apex Predators during their reign. It's now believed that T-Rex's we're scavengers as they had neither the agility, speed or formable claws.

Again, a human back in the Jurassic or Mesozoic time wouldn't have lasted long even armed to the teeth.

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I did scavenge some leftover gnocchi from the fridge today for lunch.
Link Posted: 4/18/2014 9:35:20 AM EDT
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Rinehart makes a target so you can practice defending yourself from those cunning creatures:


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"They re ..mem..berrr............"








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I had no Idea that guy died in 1999.
Link Posted: 4/18/2014 9:55:54 AM EDT
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I'll make sure and tell the squirrels and bunnies to be on the look out.
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Although I have read this explanation about why they went the way they did in the movie.

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No one has posted a velociraptor in this thread.

Velociraptor was a mid-sized dromaeosaurid, with adults measuring up to 2.07 m (6.8 ft) long, 0.5 m (1.6 ft) high at the hip, and weighing up to 15 kg (33 lb).


When is deinonychus awareness day?



Although I have read this explanation about why they went the way they did in the movie.

At the time the Velociraptors in JP were originally created, they were in fact "accurate". When Michael Crichton first wrote Jurassic Park in the mid-late 80's, he based many of his dinosaurs on depictions and classifications by the unorthodox paleo-artist Gregory S. Paul, who had classified the recently discovered Deinonychus antirrhopus as well as other species such as Dromeaosaurus and the then yet to be described Achillobator giganticus all under the genus of "Velociraptor". Crichton used these classifications when he wrote Jurassic Park. It is due to constant scientific updating, that these creatures became scientifically obsolete very soon. These classifications and designs were then carried over to the film version, which Spielberg had already planned on making, before the book was even published. The designs were copied as so to be accurate to the novel, not science.


So what you're saying is that the bigger ones are like UDT guys. What you classify them as depends on what vintage they are. So is VAM/D sufficiently based on the JP mythos that we use period taxonomy?
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The pilgrims hunted them for the first Thanksgiving dinner in America.
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Again, a human back in the Jurassic or Mesozoic time wouldn't have lasted long even armed to the teeth.

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Again, a human back in the Jurassic or Mesozoic time wouldn't have lasted long even armed to the teeth.

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Doubtful.  Here's a recent paper:

Link to abstract in PNAS


Feeding strategies of the large theropod, Tyrannosaurus rex, either as a predator or a scavenger, have been a topic of debate previously compromised by lack of definitive physical evidence. Tooth drag and bone puncture marks have been documented on suggested prey items, but are often difficult to attribute to a specific theropod. Further, postmortem damage cannot be distinguished from intravital occurrences, unless evidence of healing is present. Here we report definitive evidence of predation by T. rex: a tooth crown embedded in a hadrosaurid caudal centrum, surrounded by healed bone growth. This indicates that the prey escaped and lived for some time after the injury, providing direct evidence of predatory behavior by T. rex. The two traumatically fused hadrosaur vertebrae partially enclosing a T.
rex tooth were discovered in the Hell Creek Formation of South Dakota.


tl;dr - They found and identified a Tyrannosaurus tooth embedded in the healed neck bone of a 'duck-bill'.
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I did scavenge some leftover gnocchi from the fridge today for lunch.
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Yo!  Right here.  What to wrassle?


Let me guess, you get your dinosaur knowledge from movies? The UtahRaptor was a lot larger than standard Raptors. They were Apex Predators during their reign. It's now believed that T-Rex's we're scavengers as they had neither the agility, speed or formable claws.

Again, a human back in the Jurassic or Mesozoic time wouldn't have lasted long even armed to the teeth.

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I did scavenge some leftover gnocchi from the fridge today for lunch.


So what you're saying, you're a scavenger like a T-Rex. What would have been funny is if you had a T-Rex suit on while doing it.
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Doubtful.  Here's a recent paper:

Link to abstract in PNAS




tl;dr - They found and identified a Tyrannosaurus tooth embedded in the healed neck bone of a 'duck-bill'.
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Let me guess, you get your dinosaur knowledge from movies? The UtahRaptor was a lot larger than standard Raptors. They were Apex Predators during their reign. It's now believed that T-Rex's we're scavengers as they had neither the agility, speed or formable claws.

Again, a human back in the Jurassic or Mesozoic time wouldn't have lasted long even armed to the teeth.

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Doubtful.  Here's a recent paper:

Link to abstract in PNAS


Feeding strategies of the large theropod, Tyrannosaurus rex, either as a predator or a scavenger, have been a topic of debate previously compromised by lack of definitive physical evidence. Tooth drag and bone puncture marks have been documented on suggested prey items, but are often difficult to attribute to a specific theropod. Further, postmortem damage cannot be distinguished from intravital occurrences, unless evidence of healing is present. Here we report definitive evidence of predation by T. rex: a tooth crown embedded in a hadrosaurid caudal centrum, surrounded by healed bone growth. This indicates that the prey escaped and lived for some time after the injury, providing direct evidence of predatory behavior by T. rex. The two traumatically fused hadrosaur vertebrae partially enclosing a T.
rex tooth were discovered in the Hell Creek Formation of South Dakota.


tl;dr - They found and identified a Tyrannosaurus tooth embedded in the healed neck bone of a 'duck-bill'.


T-Rex was likely similar to bears, they waited for a kill and then showed up to run off anything. T-Rex was clearly a killer but it lacked speed and agility, worse was due to its body construction, it could neither stand up right or.walk on all fours. If for some reason a T-Rex was knocked down, it's arms were not long enough or strong enough to get up leaving it vulnerable. There's been a slight uproar about T-Rex, only in the last 20 years have evidence come out to being a scavenger.

My point still stands, I'd far rather face down a T-Rex (could out run and out smart,) than a Utah Raptor.
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I just posted that on my work board and put a sticky with "27,375,000,001" days since the last incident.
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My guard raptor

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That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard! I mean seriously, as if a raptor could fly an F-14!!!







They fly F-22's


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Me too!!!
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Fashion tools? Show me. Looking for some crow literature too.
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Velociraptors were the size of a large turkey.  Utahraptor was as big as a polar bear.  Now you are aware.



Less body mass than a turkey- more like a big peacock.

Bawk bawk...

I like the theories that they were smart, but you have to realize that "smart" in a reptilian context is still not exactly all that bright...


Considering they're more closely related to birds than reptiles, apply the intelligence of crows or ravens to a raptor and see what you come up with.

Remember.  The clever girls are problem solvers.


Crows are fucking smart, for those who don't know. As in "fashion tools to solve problems" smart.


Fashion tools? Show me. Looking for some crow literature too.






Clever girl, indeed.



For iPotato:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtmLVP0HvDg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41Z6Mvjd9w0
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So what you're saying, you're a scavenger like a T-Rex. What would have been funny is if you had a T-Rex suit on while doing it.
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I did scavenge some leftover gnocchi from the fridge today for lunch.


So what you're saying, you're a scavenger like a T-Rex. What would have been funny is if you had a T-Rex suit on while doing it.


I do have tiny arms.

And a ballin' T-Rex avatar.  With Easter Bunneh ears.  Wheeeee.


(Why won't this damn Friday end?)
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I have this on my locker at work!
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I heard Jackson is going to be in Jurassic Park 4, and he's going to sue Grant, Ellie and Hammond for leaving him behind when they saw a black arm and just assumed it was his arm.
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Alrighty then.

I got Cinco De Mayo for Margaritas.

I got St. Patrick's day for drinking everything.

I got National Custodian Appreciation Day on Oct. 2 when we drink cleaning products.

What the hell do I serve on Velociraptor Awareness Day?





The severed arm of Samuel Jackson was popular.

http://cdn3.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/ray-arnold-arm.jpg

Lawyer is also an acceptable backup dish.

I heard Jackson is going to be in Jurassic Park 4, and he's going to sue Grant, Ellie and Hammond for leaving him behind when they saw a black arm and just assumed it was his arm.


Only Hammond...........

Hopefully he'll get millions...
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I do have tiny arms.

And a ballin' T-Rex avatar.  With Easter Bunneh ears.  Wheeeee.


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I did scavenge some leftover gnocchi from the fridge today for lunch.


So what you're saying, you're a scavenger like a T-Rex. What would have been funny is if you had a T-Rex suit on while doing it.


I do have tiny arms.

And a ballin' T-Rex avatar.  With Easter Bunneh ears.  Wheeeee.


(Why won't this damn Friday end?)


So, you're an expert in small arms marksmanship?
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I'm happy to announce that there were ZERO Velociraptor attacks on my base today.

Of course, everyone knows the real danger on Ft Irwin.....






Graboids.



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by the end the dino era the farking planet was over run with allosaurids









they would of loved long pork
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And they probably taste good with BBQ sauce.

Abrams tank > Any dinosaur.

Mind over matter.
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As an apex predator and scrounger of what not, the theropod was kinda gamey



A grass fed ceraptops makes for the best bbq nomage
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they would of loved long pork




 


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