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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:22:54 AM EDT
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This... Except for me, it was finger banging a Sig PM400 over at Gander Mtn. It was freaking sweet, but they wanted way too much... I figured I could put together the equivalent for about half the price. Now I just need to get some more lowers. And hide them from the wife. 
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I feel you bro. Just when I tell myself I'm going to start saving money I see a video about the Sig brace.Forever buying guns.  This... Except for me, it was finger banging a Sig PM400 over at Gander Mtn. It was freaking sweet, but they wanted way too much... I figured I could put together the equivalent for about half the price. Now I just need to get some more lowers. And hide them from the wife.
http://www.sigsauer.com/upFiles/catalog/product/PM400_FDE-PSB-detail-Hero.jpg i finger banged this a well now im pretty sure i have to build one. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:44:57 AM EDT
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Does the AFG not count as a forward grip? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn , had the same craving last couple weeks ,I bought all the parts at last gun show here [snip] Spikes lower ,Spikes lower kit, palmetto upper with 10.5 .223 Wylde barrel, turned my own muzzle device in the shop Oh yeah and painted it rustoleum sand camo Does the AFG not count as a forward grip? Nope! |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 10:13:28 AM EDT
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it's getting worse...i'm back to posting in the tech forums!
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Posted: 4/19/2014 12:29:40 PM EDT
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Please explain further why you think a Glock pistol would be treated differently than an AR-15 pistol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think we would probably run into trouble on that because the Sig brace was approved, but once you put it in a traditional handgun the batfe will probably change their mind on the whole thing. Please explain further why you think a Glock pistol would be treated differently than an AR-15 pistol. Because just about everything the ATF does these days is on a whim. Don't ever come at them with a logical argument and think that you've somehow got the upper hand. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 12:33:40 PM EDT
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Now imagine if it didn't take a stamp to build an sbr. The novelty wouldn't be there. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 12:40:43 PM EDT
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XO-26. Google it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uh, the pistols are only a transitional phase until the Form 1 comes back. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Like a caterpillar waiting to become a beautiful butterfly. Caterpillar decided to use flaps instead 
<a href="http://s1217.photobucket.com/user/plikatok/media/Sig%20516%20CQB/null_zps4e95315d.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd386/plikatok/Sig%20516%20CQB/null_zps4e95315d.jpg</a> Uh..... VFG? Isn't that a no-no? XO-26. Google it. The XO-26 uses an 11.5" bbl. Does yours hit a minimum OAL of at least 26" without the muzzle device? If so you're g2g, if not, it's an AOW. I'll give you a heads up. My 10.5" 516 SBR (with the stock removed) doesn't meet the 26" minimum. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 1:46:26 PM EDT
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and inevitably...what are these emails from parts vendors doing in my inbox?
-diamondhead VRS T rail -KAK buffer tube & flash can worst part is that i ordered the frills before..you know...the barrel. i don't even own an action block yet. [edit: amusingly, i finally...finally...found an item for which CTD had the best price on the whole internet. this confuses me--i still suspect a trick] |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:41:29 PM EDT
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...snip... The XO-26 uses an 11.5" bbl. Does yours hit a minimum OAL of at least 26" without the muzzle device? If so you're g2g, if not, it's an AOW. I'll give you a heads up. My 10.5" 516 SBR (with the stock removed) doesn't meet the 26" minimum. I'll give you a tip. KAK Super tube. Mine has it. It's over 1" longer than your standard M4 tube. Do the math. ETA: Just in case you decide to copy mine 
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:55:21 PM EDT
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I'll give you a tip. KAK Super tube. Mine has it. It's over 1" longer than your standard M4 tube. Do the math. ETA: Just in case you decide to copy mine Quote HistoryQuoted:
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...snip... The XO-26 uses an 11.5" bbl. Does yours hit a minimum OAL of at least 26" without the muzzle device? If so you're g2g, if not, it's an AOW. I'll give you a heads up. My 10.5" 516 SBR (with the stock removed) doesn't meet the 26" minimum. I'll give you a tip. KAK Super tube. Mine has it. It's over 1" longer than your standard M4 tube. Do the math. ETA: Just in case you decide to copy mine Cool. I just question the decision making of someone putting an X300 on that gasblock. It reaches insane temperatures (if actually fired) which could fry the electronics inside.
The Sig Brace worries me, not because of the SBR issue, but because I have a feeling it's giving false comfort to some who are possibly building AOWs without realizing it. Especially with minutia like the 26" OAL Min and the KAK tube less informed builders could be prone to building stuff that's not legal. I'm more of an SBR guy, although I can appreciate the Sig brace for those that aren't. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:57:36 PM EDT
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7" 9mm Building an 11", give or take soon. Only going that over 7" because most suppressor manufacturers won't warranty that short, so I've been told. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 3:02:18 PM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=62719 7" 9mm Building an 11", give or take soon. Only going that over 7" because most suppressor manufacturers won't warranty that short, so I've been told. The sub 10.5" limit is typically for 5.56 guns. There are several .30 cans good for 7.5" use though (AAC 762SDN6 and Silencerco 7.62 Saker come to mind) |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 3:14:21 PM EDT
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Cool. I just question the decision making of someone putting an X300 on that gasblock. It reaches insane temperatures (if actually fired) which could fry the electronics inside.
The Sig Brace worries me, not because of the SBR issue, but because I have a feeling it's giving false comfort to some who are possibly building AOWs without realizing it. Especially with minutia like the 26" OAL Min and the KAK tube less informed builders could be prone to building stuff that's not legal. I'm more of an SBR guy, although I can appreciate the Sig brace for those that aren't. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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...snip... The XO-26 uses an 11.5" bbl. Does yours hit a minimum OAL of at least 26" without the muzzle device? If so you're g2g, if not, it's an AOW. I'll give you a heads up. My 10.5" 516 SBR (with the stock removed) doesn't meet the 26" minimum. I'll give you a tip. KAK Super tube. Mine has it. It's over 1" longer than your standard M4 tube. Do the math. ETA: Just in case you decide to copy mine Cool. I just question the decision making of someone putting an X300 on that gasblock. It reaches insane temperatures (if actually fired) which could fry the electronics inside.
The Sig Brace worries me, not because of the SBR issue, but because I have a feeling it's giving false comfort to some who are possibly building AOWs without realizing it. Especially with minutia like the 26" OAL Min and the KAK tube less informed builders could be prone to building stuff that's not legal. I'm more of an SBR guy, although I can appreciate the Sig brace for those that aren't. Yeah, lots of guys share the same sentiment on that X300U on the gas block. Just from my personal experience, I've ran the gun hard - mag dumps, suppressed. No issues. The bezel area actually gets hotter with the light on at extended periods vs. the gas block doing mag dumps. I agree on the 26" and if people are not educated, they may get the wrong impression. I try to share the knowledge to those listening. The more people know about the rules, the better it is for everyone. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 3:20:39 PM EDT
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PSA has the sig pm400 with sig brace and an extra stripped lower on sale for 1099.99 right now.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 3:32:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/20/2014 3:32:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AR pistols suck to shoot. The first SBR I submitted a form 1 for, I built up as a pistol first and took to the range one time and thought "wow, this is wicked gay" after putting half a mag through it. I don't shoot with the stock fully collapsed, so I can't imagine the Sig brace is any better. Maybe with a custom length buffer tube to get it in the right position. Thats weird. Im pretty big, but I have no problem with an EOTech on any of mine. Pull right up and go like hell.  |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 3:34:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just think how bad it's been for me. Been here 13 years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The amount of money this website continues to cost me is astounding Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile  Just think how bad it's been for me. Been here 13 years. Welcome to the board!  I remember mailing list. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 4:14:01 PM EDT
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so what's everyone's take on the angled foregrip? i always thought it seemed kinda gadgety and pointless, but enough guys use them to make me wonder. would never use one on a rifle, but do they help with the pistol?
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Posted: 5/13/2014 1:23:53 PM EDT
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The Walking Thread...
i'll let this completely die after the update, but the semester is finally over, and UPS delivered the final parts (BCG) just now. built out the lower last night, but don't have a vise at home so i can't do the upper yet. this did not prevent me from finger-tighting everything just to see how it will look. apologies for the potatography:  mixed bag of parts: aero upper/lower, PSA LPK and BCG, KAK tube/SIG brace, blem 10.5" bbl with flash can, diamondhead FF tube, and old aimpoint i had sitting in a box. still need irons. |
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