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Posted: 4/16/2014 3:51:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is disturbing. Have you developed a desire for Thai ladyboys? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Uh, the pistols are only a transitional phase until the Form 1 comes back. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile AR Pistols are like a Thai ladyboy that still has a penis but has some amazing tits. This is disturbing. Have you developed a desire for Thai ladyboys? Not til the transition is complete 
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Posted: 4/16/2014 3:52:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: True but then I take the cane tip off and it is still a pistol. The way things are going, ALL firearms will be illegal with 6 years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Until the idiots at BATFE change their mind as they are prone to do. True but then I take the cane tip off and it is still a pistol. The way things are going, ALL firearms will be illegal with 6 years. |
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Posted: 4/16/2014 4:58:22 AM EDT
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This is why I'm just buying a SIG AR15 pistol outright instead of assembling one.
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Posted: 4/16/2014 6:06:54 AM EDT
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Next you will tell me to buy a suppressor because the made those legal earlier. Then a full-auto, because Michigan allows those. I'm trying to sell rifles not buy more. I did see a local dealer listing stripped Spikes lowers for $99.00 though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Michigan just made SBR legal. I must resist. No. No you don't. Do it. Do it. Doooooooo iiiiiiiiit. Next you will tell me to buy a suppressor because the made those legal earlier. Then a full-auto, because Michigan allows those. I'm trying to sell rifles not buy more. I did see a local dealer listing stripped Spikes lowers for $99.00 though. Yes. Buy suppressors, too. Also, get an AR-10. |
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Posted: 4/16/2014 6:15:01 AM EDT
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Michigan just made SBR legal. I must resist. I went through inventory checking things I could SBR, uzi, ps90, a few stripped lowers lying around. Then I looked at my bank account 
The uzi will be getting a new barrel however 
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Posted: 4/16/2014 6:25:21 AM EDT
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I feel you bro. Just when I tell myself I'm going to start saving money I see a video about the Sig brace.Forever buying guns. This... Except for me, it was finger banging a Sig PM400 over at Gander Mtn. It was freaking sweet, but they wanted way too much... I figured I could put together the equivalent for about half the price. Now I just need to get some more lowers. And hide them from the wife. 
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Posted: 4/16/2014 7:12:57 AM EDT
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Next you will tell me to buy a suppressor because the made those legal earlier. Then a full-auto, because Michigan allows those. I'm trying to sell rifles not buy more. But this is a pistol. 
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Posted: 4/16/2014 7:13:42 AM EDT
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AR Pistols are like a Thai ladyboy that still has a penis but has some amazing tits. That sounds like the voice of experience. |
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Posted: 4/16/2014 7:15:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh, the pistols are only a transitional phase until the Form 1 Sig Brace comes back. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Fixed. |
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Posted: 4/16/2014 7:18:04 AM EDT
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10.5" FTMFW.
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Posted: 4/16/2014 7:23:09 AM EDT
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what a difference 20 years makes:
 Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
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Posted: 4/16/2014 7:28:37 AM EDT
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Yeah you guys are a bad group of guys to hang around especially if you don't want to spend money. I started just lurking in the build it yourself section about 3 years ago now because I was bored with pistols and 10/22's but didn't know if I wanted an AR. NOW I have 2, parts to build 3 more except BCG's and handguards, 80% lowers, 2 lowers and parts kits to start buliding for my kids,more mags than I'll probably ever need(close to 60 now) small and admittedly pitiful ammo fort but hey it's a start and I've been hammering my local state reps to get suppresors legalized in this m&^%$#fu#$%^g state! So yeah now I feel the need for a ar pistol before I start putting optics on all these "investments"
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Posted: 4/16/2014 7:34:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah you guys are a bad group of guys to hang around especially if you don't want to spend money. I started just lurking in the build it yourself section about 3 years ago now because I was bored with pistols and 10/22's but didn't know if I wanted an AR. NOW I have 2, parts to build 3 more except BCG's and handguards, 80% lowers, 2 lowers and parts kits to start buliding for my kids,more mags than I'll probably ever need(close to 60 now) small and admittedly pitiful ammo fort but hey it's a start and I've been hammering my local state reps to get suppresors legalized in this m&^%$#fu#$%^g state! So yeah now I feel the need for a ar pistol before I start putting optics on all these "investments"
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Posted: 4/16/2014 7:39:25 AM EDT
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Don't start buying M14s. You can make a M14 pistol? Whoa... |
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Posted: 4/16/2014 7:49:10 AM EDT
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The amount of money this website continues to cost me is astounding Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No crap! There goes my bonus this quarter!
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Posted: 4/16/2014 7:53:33 AM EDT
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Quote Historyyeah--yours and sabre's match what i have in mind almost exactly.
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Posted: 4/16/2014 8:09:45 AM EDT
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Same here dude. That's right about the time I started lurking in the build sections too. I just broke into the ACOG game last month, that's going to be the next moneypit for sure. Now EVERY BUILD needs an ACOG! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah you guys are a bad group of guys to hang around especially if you don't want to spend money. I started just lurking in the build it yourself section about 3 years ago now because I was bored with pistols and 10/22's but didn't know if I wanted an AR. NOW I have 2, parts to build 3 more except BCG's and handguards, 80% lowers, 2 lowers and parts kits to start buliding for my kids,more mags than I'll probably ever need(close to 60 now) small and admittedly pitiful ammo fort but hey it's a start and I've been hammering my local state reps to get suppresors legalized in this m&^%$#fu#$%^g state! So yeah now I feel the need for a ar pistol before I start putting optics on all these "investments" I got a few cheapies like a Bushnell TRS-25 that I swap around and I just got a Burris tac-30 1x4 to try some 3-gun this summer but yeah ACOG's are a ways off for me because I forgot about the AR-15.com induced urge for a Garand and a 1000 yd bolt gun! I barely scraped enough $ last month to get a garage fridge for all my imitation crab meat
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Posted: 4/16/2014 8:11:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh, the pistols are only a transitional phase until the Form 1 comes back. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/16/2014 1:51:01 PM EDT
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I made the mistake of buying one. It's turned into 3.
New Question; Sig Arm Brace on a GLOCK... If it works for one... why not the other... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't start buying M14s. I made the mistake of buying one. It's turned into 3.
New Question; Sig Arm Brace on a GLOCK... If it works for one... why not the other... Endotactical The Sig brace should work on one of these. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 5:46:48 AM EDT
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I think we would probably run into trouble on that because the Sig brace was approved, but once you put it in a traditional handgun the batfe will probably change their mind on the whole thing.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:02:53 AM EDT
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AR pistols suck to shoot. The first SBR I submitted a form 1 for, I built up as a pistol first and took to the range one time and thought "wow, this is wicked gay" after putting half a mag through it.
I don't shoot with the stock fully collapsed, so I can't imagine the Sig brace is any better. Maybe with a custom length buffer tube to get it in the right position. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:08:18 AM EDT
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AR Pistols are like a Thai ladyboy that still has a penis but has some amazing tits. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uh, the pistols are only a transitional phase until the Form 1 comes back. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile AR Pistols are like a Thai ladyboy that still has a penis but has some amazing tits. 
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:15:35 AM EDT
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I think I need a 9mm pistol that takes Glock mags and the Sig pistol brace. Off to the pistol forum....
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:23:50 AM EDT
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I think I need a 9mm pistol that takes Glock mags and the Sig pistol brace. Off to the pistol forum.... http://tnwfirearms.com/aero-survival-pistol-asp.html
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:27:25 AM EDT
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I think we would probably run into trouble on that because the Sig brace was approved, but once you put it in a traditional handgun the batfe will probably change their mind on the whole thing. Please explain further why you think a Glock pistol would be treated differently than an AR-15 pistol. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:29:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhat rail is that? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:30:48 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:34:22 AM EDT
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Sounds like you need another stripped receiver so you can have both. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where did this damn lower come from? Why do I have a whole pile of new bookmarks in my browser? And why do I keep muttering nonsensical questions like "do I want 10.5 or 7.5?" I have neither the time nor the money for this foolishness. 
Sounds like you need another stripped receiver so you can have both. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:22:00 AM EDT
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was originally thinking about buying a complete upper for it, but have spent the last few days pricing components.
might do this as a full build.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:37:10 AM EDT
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Fo 11.5"
Gives you 26" OAL with a typical carbine buffer tube. That way you can add a VFG if you like. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:43:13 AM EDT
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Fo 11.5" Gives you 26" OAL with a typical carbine buffer tube. That way you can add a VFG if you like. Very tempting. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:44:51 AM EDT
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Here's a question for you guys.
If I have a lower, that I purchased from an FFL as a stripped lower and never ever built.....it's just sat in my pile of gun stuff.....is it legal to build this into a pistol? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:45:16 AM EDT
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got my barrel in wednesday, and had to mock it up to see what it looked like:
ETA: doesn't a VFG on a pistol make it a AOW requiring a stamp? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:45:56 AM EDT
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Where did this damn lower come from? Why do I have a whole pile of new bookmarks in my browser? And why do I keep muttering nonsensical questions like "do I want 10.5 or 7.5?" I have neither the time nor the money for this foolishness.
You too, eh?
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:45:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's a question for you guys. If I have a lower, that I purchased from an FFL as a stripped lower and never ever built.....it's just sat in my pile of gun stuff.....is it legal to build this into a pistol? Yep. As long as it's a virgin receiver that was never built as a rifle AFAIK. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:48:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's a question for you guys. If I have a lower, that I purchased from an FFL as a stripped lower and never ever built.....it's just sat in my pile of gun stuff.....is it legal to build this into a pistol? if the 4473 said 'rifle', then no. if it was transferred as a 'pistol' or 'firearm', then you're fine. if you don't remember, it's not worth it. there are aero precision lowers in the EE for $60--just make sure it's xferred as a pistol or other, not a rifle.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:49:38 AM EDT
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Caterpillar decided to use flaps instead
<a href="http://s1217.photobucket.com/user/plikatok/media/Sig%20516%20CQB/null_zps4e95315d.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd386/plikatok/Sig%20516%20CQB/null_zps4e95315d.jpg</a> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uh, the pistols are only a transitional phase until the Form 1 comes back. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Like a caterpillar waiting to become a beautiful butterfly. Caterpillar decided to use flaps instead
<a href="http://s1217.photobucket.com/user/plikatok/media/Sig%20516%20CQB/null_zps4e95315d.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd386/plikatok/Sig%20516%20CQB/null_zps4e95315d.jpg</a> Uh..... VFG? Isn't that a no-no? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:50:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: if the 4473 said 'rifle', then no. if it was transferred as a 'pistol' or 'firearm', then you're fine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here's a question for you guys. If I have a lower, that I purchased from an FFL as a stripped lower and never ever built.....it's just sat in my pile of gun stuff.....is it legal to build this into a pistol? if the 4473 said 'rifle', then no. if it was transferred as a 'pistol' or 'firearm', then you're fine. if you don't remember, it's not worth it. there are aero precision lowers in the EE for $60--just make sure it's xferred as a pistol or other, not a rifle. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:52:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh..... VFG? Isn't that a no-no? Not if you've got 26" OAL. Includes perm attached muzzle devices and receiver extension (buffer tube) |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:54:27 AM EDT
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Uh..... VFG? Isn't that a no-no? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uh, the pistols are only a transitional phase until the Form 1 comes back. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Like a caterpillar waiting to become a beautiful butterfly. Caterpillar decided to use flaps instead
<a href="http://s1217.photobucket.com/user/plikatok/media/Sig%20516%20CQB/null_zps4e95315d.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd386/plikatok/Sig%20516%20CQB/null_zps4e95315d.jpg</a> Uh..... VFG? Isn't that a no-no? XO-26. Google it. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:55:20 AM EDT
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if the 4473 said 'rifle', then no. if it was transferred as a 'pistol' or 'firearm', then you're fine. if you don't remember, it's not worth it. there are aero precision lowers in the EE for $60--just make sure it's xferred as a pistol or other, not a rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here's a question for you guys. If I have a lower, that I purchased from an FFL as a stripped lower and never ever built.....it's just sat in my pile of gun stuff.....is it legal to build this into a pistol? if the 4473 said 'rifle', then no. if it was transferred as a 'pistol' or 'firearm', then you're fine. if you don't remember, it's not worth it. there are aero precision lowers in the EE for $60--just make sure it's xferred as a pistol or other, not a rifle. Quoted:
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Here's a question for you guys. If I have a lower, that I purchased from an FFL as a stripped lower and never ever built.....it's just sat in my pile of gun stuff.....is it legal to build this into a pistol? if the 4473 said 'rifle', then no. if it was transferred as a 'pistol' or 'firearm', then you're fine. if you don't remember, it's not worth it. there are aero precision lowers in the EE for $60--just make sure it's xferred as a pistol or other, not a rifle. Yep, good point. I don't know why the FFL would transfer it as a rifle but better safe than sorry. Thanks. I always stay on the right side of the fence on gun stuff. I'll go get another lower next month....I've just been very very very hesitant to fill out 4473's in CO right now......so I've not purchased any firearms since the background check thingy passed (out of spite and some inability to justify the expense, I can buy all I want, legal and all). |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:55:58 AM EDT
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This is disturbing. Have you developed a desire for Thai ladyboys? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AR Pistols are like a Thai ladyboy that still has a penis but has some amazing tits. This is disturbing. Have you developed a desire for Thai ladyboys? Well I guess in that case he is set to "Get Both" in true Arfcom fashion.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 8:22:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. I always stay on the right side of the fence on gun stuff. I'll go get another lower next month....I've just been very very very hesitant to fill out 4473's in CO right now......so I've not purchased any firearms since the background check thingy passed (out of spite and some inability to justify the expense, I can buy all I want, legal and all). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here's a question for you guys. If I have a lower, that I purchased from an FFL as a stripped lower and never ever built.....it's just sat in my pile of gun stuff.....is it legal to build this into a pistol? if the 4473 said 'rifle', then no. if it was transferred as a 'pistol' or 'firearm', then you're fine. if you don't remember, it's not worth it. there are aero precision lowers in the EE for $60--just make sure it's xferred as a pistol or other, not a rifle. Thanks. I always stay on the right side of the fence on gun stuff. I'll go get another lower next month....I've just been very very very hesitant to fill out 4473's in CO right now......so I've not purchased any firearms since the background check thingy passed (out of spite and some inability to justify the expense, I can buy all I want, legal and all). page 2 of the 4473, part 18 the transferring FFL should always put a virgin AR-15 receiver down as a: Other Firearm (Frame, Receiver, etc) but it's always better safe than sorry. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 8:48:21 AM EDT
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The amount of money this website continues to cost me is astounding Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:04:38 AM EDT
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The amount of money this website continues to cost me is astounding Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Just think how bad it's been for me. Been here 13 years.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:08:25 AM EDT
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You want a 7.5" simply because of epic flame throwing goodness. 10.5" because you'll end up with a MK18 variant upper. 11.5 because BCM says it's better than 10.5" 12.5 because John Noveske told Stickman that 12.5 would be the one length he could pick for a SBR if he could only have one. If you want a 300BLK upper (you will)---8" is a good length for suppressed goodness since most of the powder is burned up in 8-9" and they're a nice length for when you put a 30cal can on it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where did this damn lower come from? Why do I have a whole pile of new bookmarks in my browser? And why do I keep muttering nonsensical questions like "do I want 10.5 or 7.5?" I have neither the time nor the money for this foolishness.
You want a 7.5" simply because of epic flame throwing goodness. 10.5" because you'll end up with a MK18 variant upper. 11.5 because BCM says it's better than 10.5" 12.5 because John Noveske told Stickman that 12.5 would be the one length he could pick for a SBR if he could only have one. If you want a 300BLK upper (you will)---8" is a good length for suppressed goodness since most of the powder is burned up in 8-9" and they're a nice length for when you put a 30cal can on it. I hate you
These have been rolling through my head for weeks...I have yet to make a decision. My SigBrace arrived last night. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:10:39 AM EDT
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50 Beowulf 
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Ah hah!! but do you want it in .223 or .300 blackout!!!!  50 Beowulf
A pistol should take pistol mags.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:13:25 AM EDT
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I wish.............SBRs should be legal without a stamp, as should AOW and SBS. Too bad we will never get anyone to change that law Quote HistoryQuoted:
I wish.............SBRs should be legal without a stamp, as should AOW and SBS. Too bad we will never get anyone to change that law Quoted:
Now imagine if it didn't take a stamp to build an sbr. I agree they should. It's a retarded law. But if we have to have the stamp I'd be good with paying an FFL the $200 plus a fee and walk out with a tax stamp. The bullshit paperwork, wait times, limitations, etc that goes with an SBR isn't worth it for me. If it is for someone else, then go for it. Until then my pistols, with or without a Sig brace, and 16" carbines suit my needs perfectly. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:20:23 AM EDT
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Damn , had the same craving last couple weeks ,I bought all the parts at last gun show here [snip] Spikes lower ,Spikes lower kit, palmetto upper with 10.5 .223 Wylde barrel, turned my own muzzle device in the shop Oh yeah and painted it rustoleum sand camo Does the AFG not count as a forward grip? |
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