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Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:22:07 PM EDT
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My father is a devout Mormon.  He has never (since his teens anyway) drank caffeine or alcohol, or smoked or otherwise used tobacco.  He is 63 and has two kinds of arthritis, has had skin and prostate cancer, and is in generally poor health.  He's not overweight either, and he has been active all his life outdoors.  I'm not convinced that good old "clean living" is the be-all end-all of remaining healthy all your life.
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I don't:
drink alcohol
drink pop
smoke anything
take any prescription medications
eat sugar filled food

Somehow I still have friends and can still get up in the morning. I do drink three cups of coffee a day!  


My father is a devout Mormon.  He has never (since his teens anyway) drank caffeine or alcohol, or smoked or otherwise used tobacco.  He is 63 and has two kinds of arthritis, has had skin and prostate cancer, and is in generally poor health.  He's not overweight either, and he has been active all his life outdoors.  I'm not convinced that good old "clean living" is the be-all end-all of remaining healthy all your life.


I'm no Mormon, I just don't for various reasons.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:27:00 PM EDT
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My father is a devout Mormon.  He has never (since his teens anyway) drank caffeine or alcohol, or smoked or otherwise used tobacco.  He is 63 and has two kinds of arthritis, has had skin and prostate cancer, and is in generally poor health.  He's not overweight either, and he has been active all his life outdoors.  I'm not convinced that good old "clean living" is the be-all end-all of remaining healthy all your life.
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I don't:
drink alcohol
drink pop
smoke anything
take any prescription medications
eat sugar filled food

Somehow I still have friends and can still get up in the morning. I do drink three cups of coffee a day!  


My father is a devout Mormon.  He has never (since his teens anyway) drank caffeine or alcohol, or smoked or otherwise used tobacco.  He is 63 and has two kinds of arthritis, has had skin and prostate cancer, and is in generally poor health.  He's not overweight either, and he has been active all his life outdoors.  I'm not convinced that good old "clean living" is the be-all end-all of remaining healthy all your life.


Outside of extremely unhealthy/unsafe lifestyles, I'm convinced that one's genetics has a lot more to do with longetivity and health than moderate consumption of alcohol, recreational drugs, or caffeine.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:27:37 PM EDT
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We have living proof this is wrong and a lie.


Mick jagger and Steven Tyler are both still alive.
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Apparently cocaine counteracts the effects of the other chemicals.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:29:23 PM EDT
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Apparently cocaine counteracts the effects of the other chemicals.
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We have living proof this is wrong and a lie.


Mick jagger and Steven Tyler are both still alive.


Apparently cocaine counteracts the effects of the other chemicals.


Don't forget Willie Nelson.  How the hell is he still alive?
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:31:36 PM EDT
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no, but the liver has taken its share of abuse in a valiant effort to save the brain.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:33:21 PM EDT
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Quality of life beats living 100 years without any sort of pleasure of joy, just in my opinion.
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Don't forget Willie Nelson.  How the hell is he still alive?
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We have living proof this is wrong and a lie.


Mick jagger and Steven Tyler are both still alive.


Apparently cocaine counteracts the effects of the other chemicals.


Don't forget Willie Nelson.  How the hell is he still alive?


Natural Herbs BABY!!!
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:38:07 PM EDT
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Why do you care what I do to my body OP?

Was a pack a day smoker for 10 years although I recently quit.  Drink a beer or two sometimes on weeknights and usually more than a few on my days off.  Drink a red bull when I wake up everyday and coffee throughout my 12 hour mid shift when I work.

Life is fucking terminal, I've never understood why people spend their entire lives worrying about what might kill them.  It's gonna happen either way motherfuckers!  Enjoy it while you can!
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:38:38 PM EDT
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Oh...sure....all that shit's just fine....but get caught jerkin'-off just once....
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:40:01 PM EDT
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Well then shit you need to see mine.  hahahahahahahahaha................................oh gosh I'm worried, that might explain my mood swings.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:40:57 PM EDT
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Life's a bitch
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:46:11 PM EDT
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Caffeine and nicotine together....at least one is bad, but we'll say both? What's that all about.

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Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:46:19 PM EDT
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Of course it changes the brain structure, thats why it works.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:48:44 PM EDT
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Caffeine and nicotine together....at least one is bad, but we'll say both? What's that all about.

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This.


I have a bad caffeine habit, at least 450mg a day, sometimes well over that.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:51:25 PM EDT
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Nobody is going to claim that those things are good for the brain. But those pictures are bullshit scare tactics.

Besides, if you mix the alcohol and caffeine, they cancel each other out.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:52:47 PM EDT
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Of course it changes the brain structure, thats why it works.
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Temporarily altering neurotransmitters is not "changing the brain structure".
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:53:28 PM EDT
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Don't forget Willie Nelson.  How the hell is he still alive?
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We have living proof this is wrong and a lie.


Mick jagger and Steven Tyler are both still alive.


Apparently cocaine counteracts the effects of the other chemicals.


Don't forget Willie Nelson.  How the hell is he still alive?



ozzy. nuff said.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:55:01 PM EDT
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lol now the health nazis are going after caffeine lol TOLD ya so. Oh well Coffee drinkers, be prepared to be treated like smokers now.
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Link Posted: 4/15/2014 3:57:12 PM EDT
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BS.

If that were true I'd be a vegetable.
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This...
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:01:26 PM EDT
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Chilling pictures reveal shocking effects of alcohol, cigarettes and even caffeine on the mind

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1177258/Are-wrecking-brain-Chilling-pictures-reveal-shocking-effects-alcohol-cigarettes-caffeine-mind.html


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/04/article-1177258-04CD9554000005DC-791_468x562.jpg

When this patient saw what his drinking had done to his brain, he burst into tears. Until then, he’d denied there was a problem. Large amounts of alcohol close up blood vessels in the brain,
causing cells to die off, especially in the prefrontal cortex - these ‘dead spots’ are the two craters you can see at the top of this picture. The prefrontal cortex directs and supervises your behaviour - damage
can lead to poor judgment, weak control of impulses and an increased risk of depression.
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/04/article-1177258-04CD963F000005DC-163_468x561.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/04/article-1177258-04CD96DD000005DC-520_468x485.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/04/article-1177258-04CD95BD000005DC-98_468x558.jpg



Why are these substances legal?
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cuz you can live to 100 while still using them?  Do u want 200?
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:11:03 PM EDT
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“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”
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60 mg of Ritalin, a pot of black coffee, a can of Cope and three fingers of bourbon.    

Wash, rinse, repeat.  

No one will make it out alive.

“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”


I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.

--or--

“THE EDGE, there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.”
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:12:05 PM EDT
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Look up the history of beer and getting people to attend church...
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:12:36 PM EDT
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Look up the history of beer and getting people to attend church...
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Ever been to a fish fry?
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:20:12 PM EDT
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And just think, one round of 5.56 in a millisecond can cause even more damage then adding every one of those "drugs" together over multiple decades.
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We all die anyways..go out enjoying life.
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BINGO
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:21:36 PM EDT
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BS.

If that were true I'd be a vegetable.
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Same here.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:23:22 PM EDT
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Somethings going to kill you, and it probably has more to do with your genes than what you do to your body (in moderation of course).
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Ever been to a fish fry?
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Look up the history of beer and getting people to attend church...


Ever been to a fish fry?


Worked a church one last Friday. Lutherans in rural Wisconsin... needless to say there was beer in the kitchen.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:25:17 PM EDT
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Are you destroying your brain? Caffeine, Alcohol, Nicotine and Pot are wrecking your body.
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Yes I am.

Next question.

(I'd rather take years off my life, than life off my years, etc)
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:38:23 PM EDT
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They couldn't find a nicotine user on the planet that doesn't also use caffeine?  
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Why not caffeine and nicotine by themselves?


They couldn't find a nicotine user on the planet that doesn't also use caffeine?  


Probably not.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:47:53 PM EDT
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What's the worst that could happen? I die?
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:50:57 PM EDT
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Take it with a grain of salt.  SPECT is still kinda voodoo when it comes to causation.  Just about anything can cause abnormal SPECT results and the damage is cumulative.  So that dead spot could be from drugs, alcohol, chemicals, mental illness, playing football, etc.  
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:54:03 PM EDT
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You never seen meth heads i take it, there is nothing temporary about it, it's more like permanent.
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Temporarily altering neurotransmitters is not "changing the brain structure".
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Of course it changes the brain structure, thats why it works.


Temporarily altering neurotransmitters is not "changing the brain structure".

Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:57:04 PM EDT
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Yea, I'm going with this.
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BS.



If that were true I'd be a vegetable.


 
Yea, I'm going with this.
Me three...

 
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:58:40 PM EDT
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You never seen meth heads i take it, there is nothing temporary about it, it's more like permanent.
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You never seen meth heads i take it, there is nothing temporary about it, it's more like permanent.
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Of course it changes the brain structure, thats why it works.


Temporarily altering neurotransmitters is not "changing the brain structure".



Meth does a whole lot more than just "alter neurotransmitters".
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:01:26 PM EDT
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I've got demons to exorcise, memories to delete.  Gimme whiskey in my coffee.
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60 mg of Ritalin, a pot of black coffee, a can of Cope and three fingers of bourbon.    

Wash, rinse, repeat.  

No one will make it out alive.
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That's just to make it to lunch.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:06:07 PM EDT
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What's that Meat Loaf song? "3 out of 4 ain't bad?"
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:46:37 PM EDT
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Imagine the carnage and destruction humans would apply to one another if those ingredients weren't available.

I'll take a few potholes in the brain over a world in a never-ending  "Walking Dead" episode any day.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:47:41 PM EDT
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I try everyday.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 6:38:38 PM EDT
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Yeah cuz being healthy is so much more fun...

Two Die at Marathon Finish line


ETA:
I don't smoke, anything.
Alcohol maybe once a month.
Haven't had a soda in three years.
No prescription medicines.
I do eat some sugary snacks on occasion.
Moderate work outs 3-4 times a week
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 8:43:50 PM EDT
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No images of just caffeine, they had to mix it with nicotine to get their lasting affects.  
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Bullshit, everybody knows this



http://chej.org/wp-content/uploads/brain-on-drugs.jpg



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Needs the with bacon on the side image



 
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 8:52:32 PM EDT
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who cares
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 9:08:29 PM EDT
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Joe Rogan will be talking about this for months.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 9:39:27 PM EDT
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Bullshit made up by a quack doc, so he can sell his quack services for a large amount of money.  Simple scare tactics.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 9:42:16 PM EDT
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Moderation, it's a good way to hedge your bets.  But none of your parts were designed to last forever.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 9:45:35 PM EDT
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growing old is bad for your body too. wtf are we suppose to do?

this makes me think of something my early stage Alzheimer's grandpa always says. Everytime i see he he always says "Dont grow old". I just say "well my only other option is to die, so fuck that i guess im growing old".
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