Would we get tax free status while in the combat zone?

Do you have a thousands rounds of 25mm for the Brads?  How many missiles?  Main gun rounds for the MBT's?  Mortar rounds?  Linked 7.62 and 50?  Linking machines?  How many powder cans, shells and fuses for the 155s?  Spare parts?  Enough POL? Snivel gear?  Field sanitation equipment? Engineering vehicles?  CLaymores?  Concertina?  Medical supplies?  Food appropriate to the situation?  Tentage?  Field mess?  And remember most of those armored vehicles are gonna be located on an AD post some where unless shit has changed a LOT since I got out.  Finally, a means to transport it all?

Or do you really think a force armed with M16s and Saws with lots of ammo and maybe 1k per mg is going to go toe to toe with a force with armor and artillery support and all the ammo they want?

Not to mention in NV the State government didn't say fuck you we is sending armed troops to fight you.  Which could explain why bombs didn't get used.

Nah, must be the feds are pussies.

I'm so hard right now.

This

Settle down bro.

I feel like you do not know many guardsmen

Please tell me you're NOT referring to the "texas state guard" as a military branch.

However effete one might think it is, it is a part of the State's military forces.  States can and do have their own military forces, entirely separate from national ones, after all, and they have since the beginning of the Union.

In the OP's scenario I don't think ammo would be a problem at all because I just don't see it coming down to fighting. It would all be political posturing.

Nevermind that almost all of them have been disarmed and effectively neutered. Private unorganized militias have more firepower than your average state "militia". Let's just look at Texas for example, per their website:


Most of their units are "Civil Affairs", and I use that term very loosely.

State defense forces are a joke if you think they're going to be taking part in any kind of combat.

Jesus Christ people, in this day and age no governor of any state is going to call out their NG or SG to butt heads with the feds. They are all, in some way, beholden to big brother. No state government is going to ever sanction, approve, or support any kind of overt armed action against federal forces.

1.  I was responding to the specific point about ammo brought up by the poster I quoted.
2.  Ammo was only part of my list.  Being able to maintain a large body of troops in the field is a complicated process and requires a lot of other shit that many states would have difficulty providing in adequate amounts, for a long duration of time and in a timely manner.  The longer the shit goes onAnd the feds would be more than willing to drag it out and increase the pain even if they weren't willing to start shooting. the more critical that shit becomes. There is a reason through out history most wartime deaths are disease and accident related.

Some other factors I did not mention that would still be a factor would include:
1. Impact on the states economy.  This would include sm taking pay cuts, their businesses possibly being shut down while they are gone and them having limited amounts of opportunity to spend what money they have.  Not to mention most states don't budgethe money to call up a significant percentage of their Guard force for a few months or a year.  Hell, call out the COARNG for a blizzard and the state is declaring an emergency to get the feds to foot the bill.
2.Impact on public safety.  There are a lot of cops and firefighters in the Guard as well as other municipal and county employees that have skills you don't teach some one in a couple days.  Houston losing 20 cos, 10 firefighters and 4 waterguys no big deal.  Some small town losing 3 of their 14 cops, 4 of their volley firefighters and two of the 5 water guys is a much bigger issue.  If you start picking and choosing to minimize impacts you start causing issues with appropriate manning, chain of command and unit cohesion.
3.  Public safety two:  If a significant part of the Guard is called up what happens if there are floods, tornados etc?  Is NM or CO gonna bail us out or are we fucked?
4.  While lots of folks are saying oh you don't know many guys in the Guard, it's TX they'll say fuck the feds, etc.  Consider this once they get they order for fed several they are under the UCMJ.  How many are going to go oh, the feds are issuing arrest warrants for desertion?  I am going to get a dishonorable or less than honorable?  Those guys will start thinking about the impact that is going to have on them for the rest of their lives.  The govs of TX and OK might be able to work out a deal but you won't know that for a while.
5.  Other impacts on SM's.  Not just separation from family but other factors.  Stress (is this gonna get me a DD?, will my business survive?  Can we pay the bills on a reduced income cause it ain't gonna be federally exempt on income tax like a trip to the Gulf. etc.).  Job issues, namely I'm thinking all those protections under the soldiers and sailors relief act go out the window if you are a deserter.  Or lord forbid your job requires a security clearance or criminal background check and you suck a DD for AWOL or desertion.  Or work for the Feds.

But it's TX and OK!  They would rather die than take a penny of money from the feds!!!!!

A bunch of hot heads - called the fire-eaters, instigated a civil war in this country in 1860-61 - convincing several states that if Lincoln got elected it was the end of their peculiar institution.  That's fact.



Looking back, we know now that Lincoln would not have done that (he didn't think he had the authority), but at the time these rabble rousers  used speeches and newspapers and rallies to convince people.



Whole states elected or appointed state-wide conventions to discuss secession, then those states voted on secession, either through their legislature or in plebiscites.  Enough states seceded to form a government in Montgomery.  A government, by the way, whose constitutional convention was a conservative revolution that froze out the radical fire eaters (see Government of Our Own: The Making of the Confederacy by William C. Davis and The Confederacy as a Revolutionary Experience by Emory C. Davis).



It is certainly apparent that there was mass popular support for secession in 1860-1.  And the bellicose South was convinced that if it came to war they would win it, so it's also obvious there was support for the war.  A war that most of the fire-eaters played no major part in.



So this over-confident young Confederacy picked a fight at a place called Fort Sumter.



Today?



"Lots" of internet posturing by people who claim to be "We the People".  Are they?



Is 5000 acres between Texas and Oklahoma worth a civil war that will kill millions?  I know nations have gone to war for less, but do 51% of Texicans give a shit enough to march off singing 'The Yellow Rose of Texas'?



Is the Texas Capitol filled with ringing oration galvanizing the people of Texas to war?



And to cross-walk back to Mr. Cliven Bundy, is the critical mass of "We the People" (the actual 350 million or so Americans) so fired up over BLM that even 10% of "We the People" will leave our homes and hearths to war's rapine and ruin to fight and die for it?



Tens of thousands of young Southerners marched of in 1861 thinking war was all glory and sunshine - that one great battle where each would whip 10 Yankees would end it.



They were wrong.

Now you've got my attention. So, do I still get BAH and combat pay if it's in my back yard? Can I commute to and from the new war from my house? Do I get mileage and per diem?

Would you become eligible for membership in the Veterans of Domestic Wars?

Shit, good point! Cheep booze is always a perk.

Well said.  



 

If you'd read my previous post and understood what effete means, you'd know that I'm quite aware of these things.