This thread is a great reminder that it is way easier to talk yourself into trouble than out of it.

Matt Bracken was a prophet.

Just for what it is worth and since it is free ... well, maybe nothing.

The situation can be explained very easily by understand that you don't own any land, you only own the rights to use it if you have a deed or lease or other usage agreement with the title holder.  Just because you have a viable instrument to useage of a given parcel, the Feds still have one in their pocket that can trump it called Eminent Domain.  The indiginous people of North America have been the recipient of how the Feds work when they want their way.

There is a recently written book, THE NAZI AND THE PSYCHIATRIST BY Jack El-Hai that delves into the mentality of those with power and their objectives.  It discusses the interactions of Douglas M. Kelly and his role in determining if the Nuremburg Trials defendants were fit for trial.  He spent a lot of time interviewing Hermann Goring before Goring commited suicide.

The parallels others have drawn to Ruby Ridge and Waco are a reasonable comparison to Mr. Bundy's situation in examining the tactics and stategies behind how the Feds like to handle things in the ever increasing militarization of their enforcement agencys and not necessarily the situation or crimes that the Feds believed or rather wanted the general public to believe was the case and justification for their actions.

It is interesting to note the parallels that can be drawn between the current state of our country and those of pre-World War II Germany.  Many of the same condition exist here and much of the legislation to bring the people what they want is bringing more control to the Feds and squashing out the liberty of the civilian population for the good of the populace whether the populace wants it or not.

It would seem the next move on the national level will be to put a stop to political free speech and freedom of assembly.

After all, they are God! ... Well, at least in their minds and can not be wrong or wronged without retribution.

Yesterday, the BLM stood down and left the escalating crisis in Nevada after thousands of protesters and militia from all across the country showed up to stand with Cliven Bundy and his family who has homesteaded his land for over 100 years.

Corporations turned to the federal government to repossess the land for them, and used the BLM to enforce an illegal court order.

Now... all the 2nd Amendment haters out there need to ask themselves a question. Would the BLM have stood down if the protesters and militia were not armed?

This situation was resolved peacefully, even with thousands of armed "gun nuts" on site defending a man they don't even know, for an idea of liberty they have known in their hearts all of their life.

This is precisely what the founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the 2nd.

Shouldn't need to convince anyone that corporations have bought all branches of the federal government by now. Let this set an example that the government and their law enforcement are not infallible and cannot be trusted to maintain a monopoly on the use of force.

He knows it's distasteful, that why he chose it.  Someone else who was only a lowly DOT Inspector might even  find themselves engorged at the thought of actual armed .gov brethren deploying MRAP's & D9's against "uppity" citizens.

Be careful out there, those paper-cuts from trucker logbooks can become infected and painful...

Well sure it is.  Serf much?  

Intune and akodo said it in a much clearer way than I ever could have.

Either:
1. That dude was sure getting his "15 minutes of fame" in front of all the cameras, or
2. Those spectators almost got to watch the Battle of Bull Run.

So you're saying he owned the property? He was paying fees to use it?

From where I'm sitting, the feds weren't playing nice (increasing fees and demanding fewer cattle graze there), but they DO own the land.

letting his picture get taken might made for good press, but has ruined any chances that he will be let closer than 15m at the next possible engagement.

Hammer meet nail.

(And I hit that period button EXTRA hard for emphasis)

I saw the other picture with two guys with guns.  That was "frightening."  I read posts about all the Bundy supporting people with guns yet in a video that showed some BLM side folks leaving on foot, I saw no guns.   Were the Bundy supporters in fact openly well-armed, especially with rifles?

Your heart is in the right place, but you're wrong.

They wanted to bring in a CHinese company to build a power plant for Harry Reid,, his son, and Zer0.

http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/newsroom/2014/February/Secretary_Jewell_Announces_Two_Solar_Projects_Approved_in_California__Nevada.html

This is LITERALLY ON the land they want the cows off of. They couldn't give two squirts of monkey piss about the fucking turtles.

Click the link, I fully expect it to be taken down ASAP.

FedDC forgets who the true giants are. They always do.

DC is full of self important Lilliputians. The majority of the DC clan has never done an honest days work in their lives.

Yup.

Right or wrong on the part of the ranchers, it was a victory for the 2A.

You can't shove tyranny down the throats of armed men.

For once, I agree with you!

The people are really getting tired of playing nice and clearly they won't show restraint for much longer.

I'll check with my buddies and see if they can loan me their Cat D11T if the need should arise.

It is funny that he thinks he has all this power.

The power rests with the people.

Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution. Ex Post Facto laws are illegal.

Meaning that any grazing fees imposed since the Bundy's homesteaded the land over 100 years ago, do not apply.

As much as I'd hate to take fire from a Blackhawk...

I'd *MUCH* more hate to be *IN* the Blackhawk taking fire from a bunch of duck hunters.

They're not bulletproof.

constitution? constitution? we don't need no stinking constitution

Nothing more dangerous then a man with nothing left too lose.  Unfortunately big brother never forgets or forgives I suspect he'll be confronted with an armed group of Mexican cartel members, after uncle Sam calls in that favor for the arms deal.


Tin foil time woo-hoo.... .

;-)


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Probably not so much. Plausible deniability.

"a gun behind every sagebush and boulder..."
 

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