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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:18:23 PM EDT
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More tough guy military cops with their guns drawn over a woman who bought organic fertilizer at a garden store. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/12/dea-marijuana-garden-store_n_5128771.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592 I guess you blatantly ignored the rest of the PC. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:18:56 PM EDT
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An application for a search warrant for a different Midwest Hydroganics customer, Tomczak noted, stated that police had found no evidence of marijuana plant residue in the trash -- and suggested that was evidence a suspect was covering up his marijuana grow. I shouldn't  but I can't help it.
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:23:53 PM EDT
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I shouldn't but I can't help it.Quote HistoryQuoted:
An application for a search warrant for a different Midwest Hydroganics customer, Tomczak noted, stated that police had found no evidence of marijuana plant residue in the trash -- and suggested that was evidence a suspect was covering up his marijuana grow. I shouldn't but I can't help it.Did I ..... Not having evidence of a crime is evidence that a person is hiding a crime? Is that what that means? |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:29:17 PM EDT
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Did I ..... Not having evidence of a crime is evidence that a person is hiding a crime? Is that what that means? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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An application for a search warrant for a different Midwest Hydroganics customer, Tomczak noted, stated that police had found no evidence of marijuana plant residue in the trash -- and suggested that was evidence a suspect was covering up his marijuana grow. I shouldn't but I can't help it.Did I ..... Not having evidence of a crime is evidence that a person is hiding a crime? Is that what that means? Yeah... "Any luck?" "Nothing. No pot, no pot residue, no pot plant matter, no pot needles. Fuck." "Obviously growing pot. That's enough for a warrant."
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:29:21 PM EDT
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At least they went home safe.
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:29:41 PM EDT
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We are all SO much safer for their brave efforts.
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:34:23 PM EDT
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every fucking civilian is a suspect, not matter what their history.
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:35:57 PM EDT
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I guess you blatantly ignored the rest of the PC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More tough guy military cops with their guns drawn over a woman who bought organic fertilizer at a garden store. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/12/dea-marijuana-garden-store_n_5128771.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592 I guess you blatantly ignored the rest of the PC. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:36:45 PM EDT
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and they actually found weed. Last thread on this topic the cops were criticized for not finding weed. It's like whatever they do someone will criticize them.
No dags were shot, wasn't a no knock warrant. She's better off buying her stuff with bitcoin from Silk Road |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:36:52 PM EDT
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every fucking civilian is a suspect, not matter what their history. Bingo. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:39:07 PM EDT
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They also looked at her energy usage?
Heck, mine skyrocked in the winter months when my boiler couldn't be used to heat the house. Everything is OK now, but I had some electric heaters going (they suck up electricity like it's free) as well as burning up probably two cords of wood (next time I'll get more before winter). |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:39:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did I ..... Not having evidence of a crime is evidence that a person is hiding a crime? Is that what that means? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: An application for a search warrant for a different Midwest Hydroganics customer, Tomczak noted, stated that police had found no evidence of marijuana plant residue in the trash -- and suggested that was evidence a suspect was covering up his marijuana grow. I shouldn't but I can't help it.Did I ..... Not having evidence of a crime is evidence that a person is hiding a crime? Is that what that means? Yes. And at this rate, it wont be long before even commenting about a boating accident is going to result in a raid.
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:39:48 PM EDT
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and they actually found weed. Last thread on this topic the cops were criticized for not finding weed. It's like whatever they do someone will criticize them. What do you expect? People generally want them to go fuck of somewhere else. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:41:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess you blatantly ignored the rest of the PC. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: More tough guy military cops with their guns drawn over a woman who bought organic fertilizer at a garden store. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/12/dea-marijuana-garden-store_n_5128771.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592 I guess you blatantly ignored the rest of the PC. You should feel ashamed to be in the same line of work as these fuck sticks. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:41:39 PM EDT
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and they actually found weed. Last thread on this topic the cops were criticized for not finding weed. It's like whatever they do someone will criticize them. No dags were shot, wasn't a no knock warrant. She's better off buying her stuff with bitcoin from Silk Road In user quantities. They found no evidence of a grow operation. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:42:34 PM EDT
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I guess you blatantly ignored the rest of the PC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More tough guy military cops with their guns drawn over a woman who bought organic fertilizer at a garden store. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/12/dea-marijuana-garden-store_n_5128771.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592 I guess you blatantly ignored the rest of the PC. Finally back from working your standoff in Nevada? |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:44:51 PM EDT
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every fucking civilian is a suspect, not matter what their history. Law Enforcement officers are civilians... Civilian Law Enforcement. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:45:55 PM EDT
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"An application for a search warrant for a different Midwest Hydroganics customer, Tomczak noted, stated that police had found no evidence of marijuana plant residue in the trash -- and suggested that was evidence a suspect was covering up his marijuana grow."
 I'm inviting the apologists posting in this thread to defend this. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:48:45 PM EDT
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...face paint artist?
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:49:30 PM EDT
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...face paint artist? She does Bukkake Porn. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:53:13 PM EDT
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More lives destroyed by the War on Drugs (tm).
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:53:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:54:03 PM EDT
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Finally back from working your standoff in Nevada? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More tough guy military cops with their guns drawn over a woman who bought organic fertilizer at a garden store. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/12/dea-marijuana-garden-store_n_5128771.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592 I guess you blatantly ignored the rest of the PC. Finally back from working your standoff in Nevada? Yep. Cattle have been freed. It almost ruined the county fair. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:54:39 PM EDT
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"An application for a search warrant for a different Midwest Hydroganics customer, Tomczak noted, stated that police had found no evidence of marijuana plant residue in the trash -- and suggested that was evidence a suspect was covering up his marijuana grow."
I'm inviting the apologists posting in this thread to defend this. Yep.. can't even come close to say that is anything but ridiculously stupid. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:56:31 PM EDT
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Midwest Hydroganics - not your normal garden store...
--- fwiw I have bought way too much lighting from hydroponic supply houses - for my aquarium. Always wondered how long before they try to classify grow lights a paraphernalia - but I lol when actually paraphernalia is sold at most stop and robs.. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:57:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Finally back from working your standoff in Nevada? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: More tough guy military cops with their guns drawn over a woman who bought organic fertilizer at a garden store. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/12/dea-marijuana-garden-store_n_5128771.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592 I guess you blatantly ignored the rest of the PC. Finally back from working your standoff in Nevada?  |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:57:30 PM EDT
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Shouldn't have been able to obtain a search warrant or her information to begin with, however they did find drugs so they were sorta kinda right I guess
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:00:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shouldn't have been able to obtain a search warrant or her information to begin with, however they did find drugs so they were sorta kinda right I guess |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:01:14 PM EDT
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Hmmmm. Really?
Yo, DEA, me and sis just bought a bunch of topsoil, a bunch of wood, some fertilizer, some plastic, and some herbs. Four of us live here. What could we be doing? |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:02:10 PM EDT
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Hmmmm. Really? Yo, DEA, Me and sis just bought a bunch of topsoil, a bunch of wood, some fertilizer, some plastic, and some herbs. Four of us live here. What could we be doing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBNX8smjkiU 
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:03:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In user quantities. They found no evidence of a grow operation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: and they actually found weed. Last thread on this topic the cops were criticized for not finding weed. It's like whatever they do someone will criticize them. No dags were shot, wasn't a no knock warrant. She's better off buying her stuff with bitcoin from Silk Road In user quantities. They found no evidence of a grow operation. Pretty sure after gearing up and charging in, they will always "find something". |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:06:04 PM EDT
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Hmmmm. Really? Yo, DEA, me and sis just bought a bunch of topsoil, a bunch of wood, some fertilizer, some plastic, and some herbs. Four of us live here. What could we be doing? Umm, maybe an herb garden?????? |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:15:11 PM EDT
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Now they get a warrant based on lack of probable cause and then they arrest you for lack of evidence.
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:16:23 PM EDT
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and they actually found weed. Last thread on this topic the cops were criticized for not finding weed. It's like whatever they do someone will criticize them. No dags were shot, wasn't a no knock warrant. She's better off buying her stuff with bitcoin from Silk Road unless that very small amount was planted. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:16:57 PM EDT
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Umm, maybe an herb garden?????? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hmmmm. Really? Yo, DEA, me and sis just bought a bunch of topsoil, a bunch of wood, some fertilizer, some plastic, and some herbs. Four of us live here. What could we be doing? Umm, maybe an herb garden?????? Maybe. But, there is no evidence that we are not trying to avoid providing evidence of anything else. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:17:42 PM EDT
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unless that very small amount was planted. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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and they actually found weed. Last thread on this topic the cops were criticized for not finding weed. It's like whatever they do someone will criticize them. No dags were shot, wasn't a no knock warrant. She's better off buying her stuff with bitcoin from Silk Road unless that very small amount was planted. Less than a third of an ounce. For a DEA raid. Wow. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:20:14 PM EDT
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Less than a third of an ounce. For a DEA raid. Wow. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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and they actually found weed. Last thread on this topic the cops were criticized for not finding weed. It's like whatever they do someone will criticize them. No dags were shot, wasn't a no knock warrant. She's better off buying her stuff with bitcoin from Silk Road unless that very small amount was planted. Less than a third of an ounce. For a DEA raid. Wow. It's not like they are spending their money 
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:20:25 PM EDT
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Pretty sure after gearing up and charging in, they will always "find something". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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and they actually found weed. Last thread on this topic the cops were criticized for not finding weed. It's like whatever they do someone will criticize them. No dags were shot, wasn't a no knock warrant. She's better off buying her stuff with bitcoin from Silk Road In user quantities. They found no evidence of a grow operation. Pretty sure after gearing up and charging in, they will always "find something". That how it works around here also. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:20:32 PM EDT
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Did I ..... Not having evidence of a crime is evidence that a person is hiding a crime? Is that what that means? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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An application for a search warrant for a different Midwest Hydroganics customer, Tomczak noted, stated that police had found no evidence of marijuana plant residue in the trash -- and suggested that was evidence a suspect was covering up his marijuana grow. I shouldn't but I can't help it.Did I ..... Not having evidence of a crime is evidence that a person is hiding a crime? Is that what that means? no, it probably means they got tipped off by NSA spying and now they have to try and find a way to justify it with legal information. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:23:59 PM EDT
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They also looked at her energy usage? Heck, mine skyrocked in the winter months when my boiler couldn't be used to heat the house. Everything is OK now, but I had some electric heaters going (they suck up electricity like it's free) as well as burning up probably two cords of wood (next time I'll get more before winter). Quote HistoryQuoted:
They also looked at her energy usage? Heck, mine skyrocked in the winter months when my boiler couldn't be used to heat the house. Everything is OK now, but I had some electric heaters going (they suck up electricity like it's free) as well as burning up probably two cords of wood (next time I'll get more before winter). Not just hers: compared her home's electrical bill to that of her neighbors, finding that it was higher So if I read this right, they viewed her neighbors bills too just to have a baseline. Not just the person investigated, but the neighbors too???? So just living in the same neighborhood as someone is enough to have your utility bills viewed by law enforcement. So much for privacy. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:26:35 PM EDT
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I guess you blatantly ignored the rest of the PC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More tough guy military cops with their guns drawn over a woman who bought organic fertilizer at a garden store. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/12/dea-marijuana-garden-store_n_5128771.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592 I guess you blatantly ignored the rest of the PC. Who gives a shit. It's pot for Christ sake. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:26:39 PM EDT
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Oh thank god, these brave warriors saved us all.
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:28:48 PM EDT
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I shouldn't but I can't help it.Quote HistoryQuoted:
An application for a search warrant for a different Midwest Hydroganics customer, Tomczak noted, stated that police had found no evidence of marijuana plant residue in the trash -- and suggested that was evidence a suspect was covering up his marijuana grow. I shouldn't but I can't help it.Neocons in the cold war. The absence of Russian hardware means that they're so advanced that we can't even detect it !!! |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:36:36 PM EDT
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Law Enforcement officers are civilians... Civilian Law Enforcement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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every fucking civilian is a suspect, not matter what their history. Law Enforcement officers are civilians... Civilian Law Enforcement. Sssssh! Don't tell them - they all think they're Tier 1 Specwar guys, but better. Tier 0 Specwar. Delta ain't got nothin on on the mighty Special Agent Joe Bagodonuts. Heck, they have "Special" right in their title! |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:37:48 PM EDT
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At least they went home safe. Cannot underscore this enough 
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:40:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "An application for a search warrant for a different Midwest Hydroganics customer, Tomczak noted, stated that police had found no evidence of marijuana plant residue in the trash -- and suggested that was evidence a suspect was covering up his marijuana grow." I'm inviting the apologists posting in this thread to defend this. Not an apologist, but that part was for a different customer sunshine, not for this warrant. Read much?
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:41:49 PM EDT
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Maybe. But, there is no evidence that we are not trying to avoid providing evidence of anything else. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hmmmm. Really? Yo, DEA, me and sis just bought a bunch of topsoil, a bunch of wood, some fertilizer, some plastic, and some herbs. Four of us live here. What could we be doing? Umm, maybe an herb garden?????? Maybe. But, there is no evidence that we are not trying to avoid providing evidence of anything else. My brain hurts. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:42:00 PM EDT
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What a crock of shit.
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:43:00 PM EDT
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They're both bad, but the scary one is the completely innocent family who was invaded in the middle of the night. I worry about that because I'd likely end up dead. If people come charging into my house at that hour it's hard to imagine I wouldn't just start shooting and end up getting gunned down.
If that happens I wonder if they'd say "whoops" or if the search would turn up something illegal, probably planted, that they would use to justify the raid. Either way I'm no longer raising my kids. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 3:45:57 PM EDT
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Hmmmm. Really? Yo, DEA, me and sis just bought a bunch of topsoil, a bunch of wood, some fertilizer, some plastic, and some herbs. Four of us live here. What could we be doing? Umm, maybe an herb garden?????? Maybe. But, there is no evidence that we are not trying to avoid providing evidence of anything else. My brain hurts.
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