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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:09:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:13:46 AM EDT
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That would be cool...........if ever there was a Land Battleship, it was the Maus
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:13:57 AM EDT
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Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative.
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:16:28 AM EDT
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That is freaking awesome! Yes!!!!
Live! Live! Live you great beast of the night! Good. Now go forth, and terrorize!!! |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:17:00 AM EDT
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Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. You do realize that is a Maus... not a M4 Sherman line tank right? |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:17:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:18:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:20:45 AM EDT
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You do realize that is a Maus... not a M4 Sherman line tank right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. You do realize that is a Maus... not a M4 Sherman line tank right? Yes. We can build warships. Add tracks and there you go. |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:24:50 AM EDT
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I was just thinking the other day about how much money I have wasted on their games. This definitely makes me feel better about it!!
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:25:56 AM EDT
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Yes. We can build warships. Add tracks and there you go. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. You do realize that is a Maus... not a M4 Sherman line tank right? Yes. We can build warships. Add tracks and there you go. This is about bringing a piece of history back to life. Not sure why you're so against it. |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:27:00 AM EDT
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You need to reenlist Armor if they open it to females. |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:27:27 AM EDT
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Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative.  http://youtu.be/8PTFnl316ug
So again nothing innovative. WW2 tech, it's just going to be expensive and take lots of man hours. |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:28:27 AM EDT
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This is about bringing a piece of history back to life. Not sure why you're so against it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. You do realize that is a Maus... not a M4 Sherman line tank right? Yes. We can build warships. Add tracks and there you go. This is about bringing a piece of history back to life. Not sure why you're so against it. I'm not against it. Where did I say I was against t? Re-read what I wrote originally. |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:28:28 AM EDT
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So again nothing innovative. WW2 tech, it's just going to be expensive and take lots of man hours. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. http://youtu.be/8PTFnl316ug
So again nothing innovative. WW2 tech, it's just going to be expensive and take lots of man hours. Russians are doing it... less money for them to invade Ukraine with. 
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:32:30 AM EDT
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I'm not against it. Where did I say I was against t? Re-read what I wrote originally. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. You do realize that is a Maus... not a M4 Sherman line tank right? Yes. We can build warships. Add tracks and there you go. This is about bringing a piece of history back to life. Not sure why you're so against it. I'm not against it. Where did I say I was against t? Re-read what I wrote originally. Saying something is a waste of time and money usually means you're not for it. |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:37:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistorySaying something is a waste of time and money usually means you're not for it. Where the hell do I say it will be waste? I believe I started my response off with "cool". Again go read what I wrote...don't add anything just read what I wrote. 
I said it will be expensive, take lots of man hours but that the video made it out to be some innovative engineering challenge. It is WW2 tech, nothing innovative about WW2 tech, expensive, and lots of man hours. |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:47:53 AM EDT
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I believe Krieger says it best...
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:48:46 AM EDT
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Where the hell do I say it will be waste? I believe I started my response off with "cool". Again go read what I wrote...don't add anything just read what I wrote.
I said it will be expensive, take lots of man hours but that the video made it out to be some innovative engineering challenge. It is WW2 tech, nothing innovative about WW2 tech, expensive, and lots of man hours. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Saying something is a waste of time and money usually means you're not for it. Where the hell do I say it will be waste? I believe I started my response off with "cool". Again go read what I wrote...don't add anything just read what I wrote.
I said it will be expensive, take lots of man hours but that the video made it out to be some innovative engineering challenge. It is WW2 tech, nothing innovative about WW2 tech, expensive, and lots of man hours. Go be a moody judy in some other thread. The MAUS is legendary. |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:51:14 AM EDT
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Go be a moody judy in some other thread. The MAUS is legendary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Saying something is a waste of time and money usually means you're not for it. Where the hell do I say it will be waste? I believe I started my response off with "cool". Again go read what I wrote...don't add anything just read what I wrote.
I said it will be expensive, take lots of man hours but that the video made it out to be some innovative engineering challenge. It is WW2 tech, nothing innovative about WW2 tech, expensive, and lots of man hours. Go be a moody judy in some other thread. The MAUS is legendary. Or...just maybe learn to read? 
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:56:30 AM EDT
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Go be a moody judy in some other thread. The MAUS is legendary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Saying something is a waste of time and money usually means you're not for it. Where the hell do I say it will be waste? I believe I started my response off with "cool". Again go read what I wrote...don't add anything just read what I wrote.
I said it will be expensive, take lots of man hours but that the video made it out to be some innovative engineering challenge. It is WW2 tech, nothing innovative about WW2 tech, expensive, and lots of man hours. Go be a moody judy in some other thread. The MAUS is legendary. Sorry dude but you're wrong on this one. |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 3:59:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2014 4:00:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2014 4:02:04 AM EDT
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Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. http://youtu.be/8PTFnl316ug
That handsome narrator is Arfcommer "Manic_Moran." |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 4:15:24 AM EDT
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Or...just maybe learn to read? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Saying something is a waste of time and money usually means you're not for it. Where the hell do I say it will be waste? I believe I started my response off with "cool". Again go read what I wrote...don't add anything just read what I wrote.
I said it will be expensive, take lots of man hours but that the video made it out to be some innovative engineering challenge. It is WW2 tech, nothing innovative about WW2 tech, expensive, and lots of man hours. Go be a moody judy in some other thread. The MAUS is legendary. Or...just maybe learn to read? Quoted:
Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. Or maybe learn to spell FEAT
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Posted: 4/11/2014 4:20:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOr maybe learn to spell FEAT You got me. I'll take basic reading comprehension over using the wrong Homophone any day of the week. |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 5:16:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. 188 tons! Think of the engineering to make that thing move! |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 5:29:22 AM EDT
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Very cool!!
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Posted: 4/12/2014 4:04:52 AM EDT
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One bump for cool thread.
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Posted: 4/12/2014 6:18:46 AM EDT
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The largest heaviest tank built and it's a Porsche to boot! There were only 2 made total before the war ended, the US blew the one we had up testing anti tank weapons. So it is significant to save that piece of history. And in WWII a tank that weighed 188 tons! Think of the engineering to make that thing move! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. I haven't seen the video (player isn't working for some reason), so here's my question: Is the engineering about getting the 188 tons to move i.e. clean sheet of paper or is the engineering about replicating or reverse engineering what the Germans did in the early '40's on the original Maus? Either way, it's going to be pretty cool if they can make it happen! |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 6:52:24 AM EDT
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The largest heaviest tank built and it's a Porsche to boot! There were only 2 made total before the war ended, the US blew the one we had up testing anti tank weapons. So it is significant to save that piece of history. And in WWII a tank that weighed 188 tons! Think of the engineering to make that thing move! I don't think the US ever had a complete one. I have a book with photos of US Soldiers standing beside raw turret castings, but that is as close as we got. There was only one functional Maus (V2). The other Maus (V1) had a dummy turret (a weight simulating the weight of the actual turret but no armament). Maus V2 was blown up on its way to fight the Soviets around Berlin. When the Soviets captured the remains of Maus V2 and a complete Maus V1, they put the turret from V2 on V1, and presto we see a "complete" Maus. The video is somewhat correct in that there will be some engineering needed to get the Maus V2 turret to work on the Maus V1 hull. Stuff like traversing gear (whether hydraulic or electric) will need to be added. Plus, I think I read that in the last 60 years, the inside of the Maus V1 hull has been stripped of it motor and electric gear. The British, not the Americans, did capture the incomplete hull for a German E-100 (think a smaller, more practical/traditional competitor to the Maus design). But, they scrapped it soon after the war after bringing it back to the UK. The E-100, however, was never completed and never saw service. The photos of the E-100 that I've seen don't even show tracks on the hull. James |
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Posted: 4/15/2014 3:15:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think the US ever had a complete one. I have a book with photos of US Soldiers standing beside raw turret castings, but that is as close as we got. There was only one functional Maus (V2). The other Maus (V1) had a dummy turret (a weight simulating the weight of the actual turret but no armament). Maus V2 was blown up on its way to fight the Soviets around Berlin. When the Soviets captured the remains of Maus V2 and a complete Maus V1, they put the turret from V2 on V1, and presto we see a "complete" Maus. The video is somewhat correct in that there will be some engineering needed to get the Maus V2 turret to work on the Maus V1 hull. Stuff like traversing gear (whether hydraulic or electric) will need to be added. Plus, I think I read that in the last 60 years, the inside of the Maus V1 hull has been stripped of it motor and electric gear. The British, not the Americans, did capture the incomplete hull for a German E-100 (think a smaller, more practical/traditional competitor to the Maus design). But, they scrapped it soon after the war after bringing it back to the UK. The E-100, however, was never completed and never saw service. The photos of the E-100 that I've seen don't even show tracks on the hull. James Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The largest heaviest tank built and it's a Porsche to boot! There were only 2 made total before the war ended, the US blew the one we had up testing anti tank weapons. So it is significant to save that piece of history. And in WWII a tank that weighed 188 tons! Think of the engineering to make that thing move! I don't think the US ever had a complete one. I have a book with photos of US Soldiers standing beside raw turret castings, but that is as close as we got. There was only one functional Maus (V2). The other Maus (V1) had a dummy turret (a weight simulating the weight of the actual turret but no armament). Maus V2 was blown up on its way to fight the Soviets around Berlin. When the Soviets captured the remains of Maus V2 and a complete Maus V1, they put the turret from V2 on V1, and presto we see a "complete" Maus. The video is somewhat correct in that there will be some engineering needed to get the Maus V2 turret to work on the Maus V1 hull. Stuff like traversing gear (whether hydraulic or electric) will need to be added. Plus, I think I read that in the last 60 years, the inside of the Maus V1 hull has been stripped of it motor and electric gear. The British, not the Americans, did capture the incomplete hull for a German E-100 (think a smaller, more practical/traditional competitor to the Maus design). But, they scrapped it soon after the war after bringing it back to the UK. The E-100, however, was never completed and never saw service. The photos of the E-100 that I've seen don't even show tracks on the hull. James |
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Posted: 4/15/2014 5:57:06 PM EDT
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I don't think the US ever had a complete one. I have a book with photos of US Soldiers standing beside raw turret castings, but that is as close as we got. There was only one functional Maus (V2). The other Maus (V1) had a dummy turret (a weight simulating the weight of the actual turret but no armament). Maus V2 was blown up on its way to fight the Soviets around Berlin. When the Soviets captured the remains of Maus V2 and a complete Maus V1, they put the turret from V2 on V1, and presto we see a "complete" Maus. The video is somewhat correct in that there will be some engineering needed to get the Maus V2 turret to work on the Maus V1 hull. Stuff like traversing gear (whether hydraulic or electric) will need to be added. Plus, I think I read that in the last 60 years, the inside of the Maus V1 hull has been stripped of it motor and electric gear. The British, not the Americans, did capture the incomplete hull for a German E-100 (think a smaller, more practical/traditional competitor to the Maus design). But, they scrapped it soon after the war after bringing it back to the UK. The E-100, however, was never completed and never saw service. The photos of the E-100 that I've seen don't even show tracks on the hull. James Sorry, but I doubt that my wife would go for that
Seriously, 20+ years of building armor kits has given me a lot of time to study/research tanks. The joke around my workplace is what I am doing there vs. being a mechanical/armament/firearms engineer. But, my interest in armor, firearms technology, and military history is strictly a hobby. And, I enjoy sharing that info to those around me. Knowledge does no one any good if it is internalized and never shared. James |
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Posted: 4/15/2014 6:19:45 PM EDT
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MK I Bolo
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Posted: 4/15/2014 7:25:28 PM EDT
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Hmm MK I Bolo I agree! Lets drop an AI in that bad boy ;p
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Posted: 4/15/2014 7:57:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go be a moody judy in some other thread. The MAUS is legendary. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Saying something is a waste of time and money usually means you're not for it. Where the hell do I say it will be waste? I believe I started my response off with "cool". Again go read what I wrote...don't add anything just read what I wrote. I said it will be expensive, take lots of man hours but that the video made it out to be some innovative engineering challenge. It is WW2 tech, nothing innovative about WW2 tech, expensive, and lots of man hours. Go be a moody judy in some other thread. The MAUS is legendary. A never employed prototype tank is legendary? They only built one and a partial one.
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Posted: 4/15/2014 8:01:06 PM EDT
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Is it even confirmed that they actually ever completed even one?
We need Manic Moran to post here. |
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Posted: 4/15/2014 8:22:08 PM EDT
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Bleh.... World of Tanks sucks.....  Can't wait till War Thunder releases their tanks. |
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Posted: 4/15/2014 8:25:39 PM EDT
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The largest heaviest tank built and it's a Porsche to boot! There were only 2 made total before the war ended, the US blew the one we had up testing anti tank weapons. So it is significant to save that piece of history. And in WWII a tank that weighed 188 tons! Think of the engineering to make that thing move! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. In the video they state it uses an old WW2 Sub engine, again not exactly ground breaking tech. |
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Posted: 4/15/2014 8:32:33 PM EDT
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Why not just leave it alone?
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Posted: 4/15/2014 8:34:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In the video they state it uses an old WW2 Sub engine, again not exactly ground breaking tech. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. In the video they state it uses an old WW2 Sub engine, again not exactly ground breaking tech. How the hell did a Submarine engine get in there? I know that at the time the Nazis were desperate and needed quick answers, but a submarine engine? Was it their only option or what? |
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Posted: 4/15/2014 8:35:50 PM EDT
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TOG!!!!!!
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Posted: 4/15/2014 8:36:35 PM EDT
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How the hell did a Submarine engine get in there? I know that at the time the Nazis were desperate and needed quick answers, but a submarine engine? Was it their only option or what? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. In the video they state it uses an old WW2 Sub engine, again not exactly ground breaking tech. How the hell did a Submarine engine get in there? I know that at the time the Nazis were desperate and needed quick answers, but a submarine engine? Was it their only option or what? The Maus is pretty big, I doubt they include the battery bank.. My guess is a naval engine would have been much easier than building one from scratch. |
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Posted: 4/15/2014 8:41:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Maus is pretty big, I doubt they include the battery bank.. My guess is a naval engine would have been much easier than building one from scratch. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. In the video they state it uses an old WW2 Sub engine, again not exactly ground breaking tech. How the hell did a Submarine engine get in there? I know that at the time the Nazis were desperate and needed quick answers, but a submarine engine? Was it their only option or what? The Maus is pretty big, I doubt they include the battery bank.. My guess is a naval engine would have been much easier than building one from scratch. Probably, I figured the Nazis would have abandoned building ship engines since they were fighting a land war and rapidly losing ground.... |
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Posted: 4/15/2014 8:44:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/15/2014 8:54:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You do realize that is a Maus... not a M4 Sherman line tank right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. You do realize that is a Maus... not a M4 Sherman line tank right? |
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Posted: 4/15/2014 10:58:10 PM EDT
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He knows nothing of the German craftsmanship of that day. Sure they had some crude stuff also but they had things we cannot match today also. Particularly in engines, the British guys had some super talent also. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool but why did the video make it out to be some engineering feet to rebuild a WW2 tank? I'm sure it will be expensive but nothing innovative. You do realize that is a Maus... not a M4 Sherman line tank right? Right... 
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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:22:10 PM EDT
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A bunch of posters are enjoying the idea of an interesting piece of WW 2 armor being restored.
Are you here for a reason other than being generally annoying and somewhat obnoxious? 
We get it, you're not impressed by the Maus. 
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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:29:07 PM EDT
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WW2 naval engines are totally cutting edge combustion engine technology...derp. Sometimes old tech can be quite advanced. I don't know much about Maus, but it is reasonable to think that recreating the tech would be a challenge. The Germans had some advanced tech for the time, Maus was one of their late designs and also very rare. On top of that, it was not tech we would have been looking at the way we would have looked at designs we took more seriously. We went through a major development with their V-2s in our rocket program, so we really developed a depth of understanding of their rocket program. By comparison, Maus was not something we used as a starting point for post war development in tanks. There could be interesting tech involved that we don't know much about. Perhaps not, perhaps there isn't interesting tech and it is just a big tank. I doubt it. Making something big like that calls in new engineering challenges, and the Germans in particular tend to go all out in developing huge custom machines. |
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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:33:33 PM EDT
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A bunch of posters are enjoying the idea of an interesting piece of WW 2 armor being restored. Are you here for a reason other than being generally annoying and somewhat obnoxious?
We get it, you're not impressed by the Maus.
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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:40:08 PM EDT
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This is Russia's HA HA attempt at Bovington......hope they can do it!!! |
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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:52:49 PM EDT
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This is Russia's HA HA attempt at Bovington......hope they can do it!!! 
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