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Posted: 1/26/2015 9:36:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reference: Akins Accelerator Geissele has skin in this game. When it comes to the ATF, it is better to ask permission than forgiveness. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Question: Is there a reason that you need their permission? The law is somewhat cut and dry it seems. Reference: Akins Accelerator Geissele has skin in this game. When it comes to the ATF, it is better to ask permission than forgiveness. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 1:30:34 PM EDT
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What's funny is Akins got permission and the details of how his design worked were explicitly explained. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Question: Is there a reason that you need their permission? The law is somewhat cut and dry it seems. Reference: Akins Accelerator Geissele has skin in this game. When it comes to the ATF, it is better to ask permission than forgiveness. The design Akins shipped was materially different than the design he got approved. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 1:40:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The design Akins shipped was materially different than the design he got approved. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: SNIP The design Akins shipped was materially different than the design he got approved. Akins then developed a commercial version for the 10/22 receiver utilizing the same function outlined as OK in his first letter from the ATF. After the device was brought to market ATF changed their mind and issued a ruling stating it was a machinegun. See ATF ruling 2006-02 https://www.atf.gov/files/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2006-2.pdf |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 2:02:20 PM EDT
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Akins originally sent in a prototype for an SKS. The prototype had issues, but the communication received by Bill Akins outlined how the device was intended to function and stated that function was in compliance with the law. Akins then developed a commercial version for the 10/22 receiver utilizing the same function outlined as OK in his first letter from the ATF. After the device was brought to market ATF changed their mind and issued a ruling stating it was a machinegun. See ATF ruling 2006-02 https://www.atf.gov/files/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2006-2.pdf Quote HistoryQuoted:
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SNIP The design Akins shipped was materially different than the design he got approved. Akins then developed a commercial version for the 10/22 receiver utilizing the same function outlined as OK in his first letter from the ATF. After the device was brought to market ATF changed their mind and issued a ruling stating it was a machinegun. See ATF ruling 2006-02 https://www.atf.gov/files/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2006-2.pdf Akins added a spring in the released design that was not present in his submission that was approved. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 2:11:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Akins added a spring in the released design that was not present in his submission that was approved. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: SNIP Akins then developed a commercial version for the 10/22 receiver utilizing the same function outlined as OK in his first letter from the ATF. After the device was brought to market ATF changed their mind and issued a ruling stating it was a machinegun. See ATF ruling 2006-02 https://www.atf.gov/files/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2006-2.pdf Akins added a spring in the released design that was not present in his submission that was approved. Wanting more clarification, the partners again contacted the ATF and were told that the Akins Accelerator was not a machine gun. The ATF agreed to put its findings in writing, which they did. I want everyone to hear me correctly: the ATF put into writing their findings that the Akins rapid fire device was NOT a machine gun. They had written that despite the fact that the screws had dislodged, they fully understood its method of operation and the device was not considered a machine gun. https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/mr-bill-akins-and-the-akins-accelerator/ |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 3:54:34 PM EDT
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The thread needs to go back this way ------>
Or this way-----> 
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Posted: 1/26/2015 3:59:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The thread needs to go back this way ------> http://www.ar15news.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Geissele-logo.png Or this way-----> http://a1.phobos.apple.com/us/r1000/034/Purple/47/dc/bc/mzl.uwxdonio.480x480-75.jpg  |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 11:12:47 PM EDT
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Lemme help.
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Posted: 1/26/2015 11:19:00 PM EDT
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I hope something comes out of this so I can start throwing $ at G
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Posted: 1/26/2015 11:20:49 PM EDT
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The thread needs to go back this way ------> http://www.ar15news.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Geissele-logo.png Or this way-----> http://a1.phobos.apple.com/us/r1000/034/Purple/47/dc/bc/mzl.uwxdonio.480x480-75.jpg This thread just took a turn for the better. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:11:48 AM EDT
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Deleted, didn't see watermark on my phone, don't want thread locked.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 1:41:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/27/2015 2:55:08 PM EDT
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No eyebrows. Interesting, but I'd rather see the tigger pics at this point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
No eyebrows. Interesting, but I'd rather see the tigger pics at this point. Plus, she's as orange as an Oompa-Loompa 
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Posted: 1/27/2015 3:00:13 PM EDT
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Plus, she's as orange as an Oompa-Loompa http://www.disneyclips.com/imagesnewb/imageslwrakr01/cliptiggerhappy3.gif Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No eyebrows. Interesting, but I'd rather see the tigger pics at this point. Plus, she's as orange as an Oompa-Loompa http://www.disneyclips.com/imagesnewb/imageslwrakr01/cliptiggerhappy3.gif Eh, would match my cheeto stained cock. Would smash. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 3:03:00 PM EDT
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WHEN IS THIS THING COMING OUT!!!???
No further foresight? |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 3:09:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYum! That there's table grade! |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 3:14:12 PM EDT
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Eh, would match my cheeto stained cock. Would smash. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No eyebrows. Interesting, but I'd rather see the tigger pics at this point. Plus, she's as orange as an Oompa-Loompa http://www.disneyclips.com/imagesnewb/imageslwrakr01/cliptiggerhappy3.gif Eh, would match my cheeto stained cock. Would smash. That watermark though.... |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 3:18:06 PM EDT
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That watermark though.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No eyebrows. Interesting, but I'd rather see the tigger pics at this point. Plus, she's as orange as an Oompa-Loompa http://www.disneyclips.com/imagesnewb/imageslwrakr01/cliptiggerhappy3.gif Eh, would match my cheeto stained cock. Would smash. That watermark though.... Lol, now we know where OP surfs from his mom's basement. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 3:49:55 PM EDT
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perhaps the hold up is the ATF trying to figure out how to pronounce.. Geissele
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Posted: 1/27/2015 3:52:21 PM EDT
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perhaps the hold up is the ATF trying to figure out how to pronounce.. Geissele I can't wait to get my hands in the new Giselle trigger 
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Posted: 1/27/2015 6:34:04 PM EDT
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Eh, would match my cheeto stained cock. Would smash. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No eyebrows. Interesting, but I'd rather see the tigger pics at this point. Plus, she's as orange as an Oompa-Loompa http://www.disneyclips.com/imagesnewb/imageslwrakr01/cliptiggerhappy3.gif Eh, would match my cheeto stained cock. Would smash. lol |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 6:36:06 PM EDT
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Lol, now we know where OP surfs from his mom's basement. Lemme tell ya, it's a lot harder to find COC compliant boob pics than one would initially think... 
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Posted: 1/27/2015 6:46:27 PM EDT
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perhaps the hold up is the ATF trying to figure out how to pronounce.. Geissele Guys Lee. There I said it. Now someone please inform the ATF so I can have some more triggers. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 7:13:14 PM EDT
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Guys Lee. There I said it. Now someone please inform the ATF so I can have some more triggers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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perhaps the hold up is the ATF trying to figure out how to pronounce.. Geissele Guys Lee. There I said it. Now someone please inform the ATF so I can have some more triggers. You should write them a letter. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 7:31:06 PM EDT
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Lemme tell ya, it's a lot harder to find COC compliant boob pics than one would initially think...
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Lol, now we know where OP surfs from his mom's basement. Lemme tell ya, it's a lot harder to find COC compliant boob pics than one would initially think...
Looks like you're 50% so far! Also, I re-uploaded the Tigger pic ToyCop requested... http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1611794_New_Geissele_Trigger___Would_You_Buy___ETA_UPDATE_ON_ESTIMATED_PRICE_ETA_2_BIG_OL__TITTIES___.html&page=21#i51726765 |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 8:44:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like you're 50% so far! Also, I re-uploaded the Tigger pic ToyCop requested... http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1611794_New_Geissele_Trigger___Would_You_Buy___ETA_UPDATE_ON_ESTIMATED_PRICE_ETA_2_BIG_OL__TITTIES___.html&page=21#i51726765 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lol, now we know where OP surfs from his mom's basement. Lemme tell ya, it's a lot harder to find COC compliant boob pics than one would initially think... Looks like you're 50% so far! Also, I re-uploaded the Tigger pic ToyCop requested... http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1611794_New_Geissele_Trigger___Would_You_Buy___ETA_UPDATE_ON_ESTIMATED_PRICE_ETA_2_BIG_OL__TITTIES___.html&page=21#i51726765 |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 9:39:52 PM EDT
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About the same color as that chick. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol, now we know where OP surfs from his mom's basement. Lemme tell ya, it's a lot harder to find COC compliant boob pics than one would initially think...
Looks like you're 50% so far! Also, I re-uploaded the Tigger pic ToyCop requested... http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1611794_New_Geissele_Trigger___Would_You_Buy___ETA_UPDATE_ON_ESTIMATED_PRICE_ETA_2_BIG_OL__TITTIES___.html&page=21#i51726765 don't care. for about 30sec i'd do my best to bang that bad tan right off her. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 8:33:21 AM EDT
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Lemme tell ya, it's a lot harder to find COC compliant boob pics than one would initially think...
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Lol, now we know where OP surfs from his mom's basement. Lemme tell ya, it's a lot harder to find COC compliant boob pics than one would initially think...
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Posted: 1/28/2015 9:02:12 AM EDT
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I asked about this trigger at SHOT, and the girl at the table said it was more of an ARFCOM rumor.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 10:28:51 AM EDT
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I asked about this trigger at SHOT, and the girl at the table said it was more of an ARFCOM rumor. Should have asked her who was right... her or her boss. Concept made by 4/19/14 More info coming as of December 14, and "I'm not teasing. This thing works-flat out..." Super Automatic name thrown out on 1/17/15 The idea might be pushed by arfcom, but it doesn't look like a rumor to me. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 11:24:17 AM EDT
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Should have asked her who was right... her or her boss. Concept made by 4/19/14 More info coming as of December 14, and "I'm not teasing. This thing works-flat out..." Super Automatic name thrown out on 1/17/15 The idea might be pushed by arfcom, but it doesn't look like a rumor to me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I asked about this trigger at SHOT, and the girl at the table said it was more of an ARFCOM rumor. Should have asked her who was right... her or her boss. Concept made by 4/19/14 More info coming as of December 14, and "I'm not teasing. This thing works-flat out..." Super Automatic name thrown out on 1/17/15 The idea might be pushed by arfcom, but it doesn't look like a rumor to me. Arfcom members only trigger!  
Arfcom Super Semi-Automatic - ASS |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 12:36:21 PM EDT
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I think someone asked this before but I don't remember an answer. What does the ATF have to do with this trigger? It doesn't allow more than one shot per pull right it's just a different trigger 'feel' depending on the setting.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 12:44:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think someone asked this before but I don't remember an answer. What does the ATF have to do with this trigger? It doesn't allow more than one shot per pull right it's just a different trigger 'feel' depending on the setting. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 12:49:10 PM EDT
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Arfcom members only trigger!
Arfcom Super Semi-Automatic - ASS How about the Full-Auto Trigger Facsimile? Or FATF? |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 3:11:17 PM EDT
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How about the Full-Auto Trigger Facsimile? Or FATF? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Arfcom members only trigger!
Arfcom Super Semi-Automatic - ASS How about the Full-Auto Trigger Facsimile? Or FATF? Or Full Auto-ish Trigger, Arfcom Super Semiautomatic. Or FATASS for short |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 3:27:01 PM EDT
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Plus, she's as orange as an Oompa-Loompa Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No eyebrows. Interesting, but I'd rather see the tigger pics at this point. Plus, she's as orange as an Oompa-Loompa There is something orange on her? I don't see it... |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 3:30:48 PM EDT
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Or Full Auto-ish Trigger, Arfcom Super Semiautomatic. Or FATASS for short Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Arfcom members only trigger!
Arfcom Super Semi-Automatic - ASS How about the Full-Auto Trigger Facsimile? Or FATF? Or Full Auto-ish Trigger, Arfcom Super Semiautomatic. Or FATASS for short Heavy6 could do the promo video.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 3:36:45 PM EDT
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How about the Full-Auto Trigger Facsimile? Or FATF? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Arfcom members only trigger!
Arfcom Super Semi-Automatic - ASS How about the Full-Auto Trigger Facsimile? Or FATF? I would stay away from anything that even hints at full auto. He should name it the Puppy's, unicorns, roses, and kittens gizmo (PURK-GI)...get it? Perky? Perky titties?
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Posted: 1/29/2015 4:00:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or Full Auto-ish Trigger, Arfcom Super Semiautomatic. Or FATASS for short Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Arfcom members only trigger! Arfcom Super Semi-Automatic - ASS How about the Full-Auto Trigger Facsimile? Or FATF? Or Full Auto-ish Trigger, Arfcom Super Semiautomatic. Or FATASS for short |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:51:07 PM EDT
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Are we there yet??????????????????????????????????
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Posted: 1/29/2015 6:55:09 PM EDT
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Nope! still on hold
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Posted: 1/29/2015 7:51:06 PM EDT
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Nope! still on hold  
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Posted: 1/29/2015 8:48:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/30/2015 12:22:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryYikes! Skanky crack whore... In my opinion. YMMV |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 12:28:02 AM EDT
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220 Proof gorgeous lady.
Yum! That there's table grade! |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 12:39:50 AM EDT
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Nope! still on hold This has to be a bit frustrating for Mr. Geissele. There is time, money, baby sitting an arfcom thread, and dealing with Uncle Sugar invested in this trigger. If he can be patient in getting this to market, I am sure the rest of us can be excited about what is coming and be patient about it. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 1:08:11 AM EDT
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This has to be a bit frustrating for Mr. Geissele. There is time, money, baby sitting an arfcom thread, and dealing with Uncle Sugar invested in this trigger. If he can be patient in getting this to market, I am sure the rest of us can be excited about what is coming and be patient about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nope! still on hold This has to be a bit frustrating for Mr. Geissele. There is time, money, baby sitting an arfcom thread, and dealing with Uncle Sugar invested in this trigger. If he can be patient in getting this to market, I am sure the rest of us can be excited about what is coming and be patient about it. I recall a quote by Alan Greenspan. "When you don't have any alternatives, you don't have any problems". Or something like that. Uncle Sam has been professional and up front. But the SA has him officially wigged out because it works so well. That's a good thing I guess. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 1:33:57 AM EDT
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I recall a quote by Alan Greenspan. "When you don't have any alternatives, you don't have any problems". Or something like that. Uncle Sam has been professional and up front. But the SA has him officially wigged out because it works so well. That's a good thing I guess. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nope! still on hold This has to be a bit frustrating for Mr. Geissele. There is time, money, baby sitting an arfcom thread, and dealing with Uncle Sugar invested in this trigger. If he can be patient in getting this to market, I am sure the rest of us can be excited about what is coming and be patient about it. I recall a quote by Alan Greenspan. "When you don't have any alternatives, you don't have any problems". Or something like that. Uncle Sam has been professional and up front. But the SA has him officially wigged out because it works so well. That's a good thing I guess. Oh I like the sound of this so much. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 1:40:40 AM EDT
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I recall a quote by Alan Greenspan. "When you don't have any alternatives, you don't have any problems". Or something like that. Uncle Sam has been professional and up front. But the SA has him officially wigged out because it works so well. That's a good thing I guess. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nope! still on hold This has to be a bit frustrating for Mr. Geissele. There is time, money, baby sitting an arfcom thread, and dealing with Uncle Sugar invested in this trigger. If he can be patient in getting this to market, I am sure the rest of us can be excited about what is coming and be patient about it. I recall a quote by Alan Greenspan. "When you don't have any alternatives, you don't have any problems". Or something like that. Uncle Sam has been professional and up front. But the SA has him officially wigged out because it works so well. That's a good thing I guess. Sounds great! |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 9:36:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:I recall a quote by Alan Greenspan. "When you don't have any alternatives, you don't have any problems". Or something like that. Uncle Sam has been professional and up front. But the SA has him officially wigged out because it works so well. That's a good thing I guess.
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