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Link Posted: 3/11/2014 1:57:01 PM EDT
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Nothing new. It's been available at Home Depot for years.
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And yours is upside-down
Link Posted: 3/11/2014 2:02:39 PM EDT
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Gents,
Heard loud and clear
We are going to bring back the original MK4, non Keymod.  I think we will make up an inner attachment plate so some accys can be mounted if needed.
So we will have a MK4 and MK4 Keymod
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Keymod is a retarded answer to a problem that doesn't exist.  Original Geissele MK4 over all.



One thing I learned from this thread.  I had no idea there was so much love for the Geissele MK4.  I am intrigued now.


Well too bad, you cannot get it anymore. The original design has been discontinued due to keymod.



http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3817/11392210616_4002e151ec_b.jpg


Gents,
Heard loud and clear
We are going to bring back the original MK4, non Keymod.  I think we will make up an inner attachment plate so some accys can be mounted if needed.
So we will have a MK4 and MK4 Keymod


But I just bought a keymod vertical grip and flashlight how will I mount them to the new old rail. Man I wish there was a standard to mount all accessories!
Link Posted: 3/11/2014 2:05:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/11/2014 2:14:17 PM EDT
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But in order for the bcm keymod rail to have the same functionality as the mk4 OG, you'd have to add 3 rail pieces. How much weight would those add and would those be as secure as the machined in rails of the superior mk4 OG?


ETA: awesome! Now I don't have to buy more mk4 rails today
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That's the thing, you don't have to add 3 rail pieces if you don't need the same functionality.  Which a lot of us won't.  As far as weight, I'm guessing each piece would weigh less than an ounce.  I'll never say that screw-on rail pieces is stronger than machined in rails, but many of us will never test those limits.
Link Posted: 3/11/2014 2:17:38 PM EDT
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Well too bad, you cannot get it anymore. The original design has been discontinued due to keymod.



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Keymod is a retarded answer to a problem that doesn't exist.  Original Geissele MK4 over all.



One thing I learned from this thread.  I had no idea there was so much love for the Geissele MK4.  I am intrigued now.


Well too bad, you cannot get it anymore. The original design has been discontinued due to keymod.



http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3817/11392210616_4002e151ec_b.jpg


Hence all the raving Giessele fanboy butt hurt in this thread.
You fanboy haters are good for laughs.... That's about it.

ZA

ETA: "Haters can suck my key mods!"

Link Posted: 3/11/2014 2:26:26 PM EDT
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Gents,
Heard loud and clear
We are going to bring back the original MK4, non Keymod.  I think we will make up an inner attachment plate so some accys can be mounted if needed.
So we will have a MK4 and MK4 Keymod
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Keymod is a retarded answer to a problem that doesn't exist.  Original Geissele MK4 over all.



One thing I learned from this thread.  I had no idea there was so much love for the Geissele MK4.  I am intrigued now.


Well too bad, you cannot get it anymore. The original design has been discontinued due to keymod.



http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3817/11392210616_4002e151ec_b.jpg


Gents,
Heard loud and clear
We are going to bring back the original MK4, non Keymod.  I think we will make up an inner attachment plate so some accys can be mounted if needed.
So we will have a MK4 and MK4 Keymod



Awesome.

I love you.

No homo.
Link Posted: 3/11/2014 2:28:44 PM EDT
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You oldtimers need to get with the future.
Link Posted: 3/11/2014 2:38:28 PM EDT
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Gents,
Heard loud and clear
We are going to bring back the original MK4, non Keymod.  I think we will make up an inner attachment plate so some accys can be mounted if needed.
So we will have a MK4 and MK4 Keymod
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Keymod is a retarded answer to a problem that doesn't exist.  Original Geissele MK4 over all.



One thing I learned from this thread.  I had no idea there was so much love for the Geissele MK4.  I am intrigued now.


Well too bad, you cannot get it anymore. The original design has been discontinued due to keymod.



http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3817/11392210616_4002e151ec_b.jpg


Gents,
Heard loud and clear
We are going to bring back the original MK4, non Keymod.  I think we will make up an inner attachment plate so some accys can be mounted if needed.
So we will have a MK4 and MK4 Keymod




Now all I need is a 15 inch one so I can dump my JBT Troy rail.
Link Posted: 3/11/2014 2:44:17 PM EDT
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The only keymod item that strikes me as being worth it is the BCM rail, and that's because of the material and weight, not the actual keymod set up.

The rails that have picatinny at the front, and keymod behind make no sense to me at all.
Link Posted: 3/11/2014 2:44:19 PM EDT
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If I lived near the Geissele facility I swear I'd be outside with a sign protesting keymod and demanding the original MK4.

They are getting harder to find and it is pissing me off.



And one more time...

F UUUUUUUUUUU Keymod!!!!!!!!!!



When is the protest planned for?

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It appears this will not be necessary.


Link Posted: 3/11/2014 2:59:12 PM EDT
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  That's why the old MK4s and URX3s were nice.

Keymod just makes those heavier and have attachment points where you will never attach anything.
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I like the idea, rails can be sharp. It would be nice just to have rail where you need it and have the rest of the hand guard thin and smooth.

  That's why the old MK4s and URX3s were nice.

Keymod just makes those heavier and have attachment points where you will never attach anything.

I really like the URX3 rails a lot. Wish I had seen the MK4's before keymod.
Link Posted: 3/11/2014 3:05:24 PM EDT
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I bought this to build a SBR upper.  I'm glad they won't be so hard to find in the future.





Link Posted: 3/11/2014 3:42:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/11/2014 4:04:32 PM EDT
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man, fuck all this. I only mount shit at 12:00, a light and a goddamn sight. that's it. if God grants me the money for night vision, that shit will go at 12:00 too. I'm sticking with the alpha rail, you kids can keep feeding the monster if you want.
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Amen brother, testify
Link Posted: 3/11/2014 4:28:50 PM EDT
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I'm seeing a Keymod parody thread soon.  Tactically accessorized Home Depot shelves, bed frames, thermometers...
Link Posted: 3/11/2014 5:04:12 PM EDT
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I bought this to build a SBR upper.  I'm glad they won't be so hard to find in the future.



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I was afraid my SBR was going to have to live with it's silly quad rail forever.

I'm totes stoked it won't have to now.
Link Posted: 3/11/2014 5:06:37 PM EDT
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So this is a Keymod sucks because it's not a Geissele thread.

Link Posted: 3/11/2014 5:08:32 PM EDT
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So this is a Keymod sucks because it's not a Geissele thread.

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Geissele makes keymod. And it still sucks.
Link Posted: 3/11/2014 5:09:22 PM EDT
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It is. That's my favorite rail. It sucks if they aren't going to make them like that anymore, I wanted to maybe get a couple more. I don't hate keymod though. I like the slim Noveske keymod rails.
I do agree that almost nobody has any use for most of the positions. It would be better on just the bottom.

ETA: Just read they'll still be available. Glad. It's probably the best looking rail of all time. Of all time.
Link Posted: 3/11/2014 5:11:25 PM EDT
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It is. That's my favorite rail. It sucks if they aren't going to make them like that anymore, I wanted to maybe get a couple more. I don't hate keymod though. I like the slim Noveske keymod rails.
I do agree that almost nobody has any use for most of the positions. It would be better on just the bottom.
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It is. That's my favorite rail. It sucks if they aren't going to make them like that anymore, I wanted to maybe get a couple more. I don't hate keymod though. I like the slim Noveske keymod rails.
I do agree that almost nobody has any use for most of the positions. It would be better on just the bottom.


Read whole thread.
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It is. That's my favorite rail. It sucks if they aren't going to make them like that anymore, I wanted to maybe get a couple more. I don't hate keymod though. I like the slim Noveske keymod rails.
I do agree that almost nobody has any use for most of the positions. It would be better on just the bottom.


Read whole thread.



Just caught that.
Link Posted: 3/11/2014 5:49:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/11/2014 6:14:03 PM EDT
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Gents,
Heard loud and clear
We are going to bring back the original MK4, non Keymod.  I think we will make up an inner attachment plate so some accys can be mounted if needed.
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Great, now what am I gonna bitch about?


Link Posted: 3/11/2014 6:33:19 PM EDT
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Great, now what am I gonna bitch about?


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Gents,
Heard loud and clear
We are going to bring back the original MK4, non Keymod.  I think we will make up an inner attachment plate so some accys can be mounted if needed.
So we will have a MK4 and MK4 Keymod


Great, now what am I gonna bitch about?





Much like Reagan challenged Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin Wall your bitching challenged Geissele to make the "OG" MK4 again.

You can be proud of that.






Link Posted: 3/11/2014 6:37:31 PM EDT
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Much like Reagan challenged Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin Wall your bitching challenged Geissele to make the "OG" MK4 again.

You can be proud of that.






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Gents,
Heard loud and clear
We are going to bring back the original MK4, non Keymod.  I think we will make up an inner attachment plate so some accys can be mounted if needed.
So we will have a MK4 and MK4 Keymod


Great, now what am I gonna bitch about?





Much like Reagan challenged Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin Wall your bitching challenged Geissele to make the "OG" MK4 again.

You can be proud of that.








Yeah, where is my Tabpul mag, Pistol?  Point thy bitching in another direction.
Link Posted: 3/11/2014 10:43:51 PM EDT
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keymod is nifty, but what I really want is a two-piece, free float, round handguard that installs in the stock barrel nut. Like the MI gen 2 quad rail, with only the top rail.

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Daniel Defense Omega + Dremel = Profit?
Link Posted: 3/12/2014 4:24:47 AM EDT
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I was afraid my SBR was going to have to live with it's silly quad rail forever.

I'm totes stoked it won't have to now.
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I bought this to build a SBR upper.  I'm glad they won't be so hard to find in the future.



http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x217/njm452/2b9578af50e1b3cb5591d97ea11da5eb_zps707ec93c.jpg



I was afraid my SBR was going to have to live with it's silly quad rail forever.

I'm totes stoked it won't have to now.


Yea it took some searching to find a 9.5 in stock.  I did not want a quad rail.  Looks like that problem is working itself out.

Thanks again to Geissele.  


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Much like Reagan challenged Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin Wall your bitching challenged Geissele to make the "OG" MK4 again.

You can be proud of that.



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Much like Reagan challenged Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin Wall your bitching challenged Geissele to make the "OG" MK4 again.

You can be proud of that.







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Yeah, where is my Tabpul mag, Pistol?  Point thy bitching in another direction.


Uh the only way that is happening is probably get out the soldering iron.
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I'm seeing a Keymod parody thread soon.  Tactically accessorized Home Depot shelves, bed frames, thermometers...
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You oldtimers need to get with the future.


I'm seeing a Keymod parody thread soon.  Tactically accessorized Home Depot shelves, bed frames, thermometers...



Bromod
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Uh the only way that is happening is probably get out the soldering iron.
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Much like Reagan challenged Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin Wall your bitching challenged Geissele to make the "OG" MK4 again.

You can be proud of that.







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Yeah, where is my Tabpul mag, Pistol?  Point thy bitching in another direction.


Uh the only way that is happening is probably get out the soldering iron.


You're not insisting hard enough.
Link Posted: 3/12/2014 9:22:24 AM EDT
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Gents,
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Awesome. I want one badly for my next build. Right now I have a lonely lower waiting to be assembled.
Link Posted: 3/12/2014 3:47:09 PM EDT
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One thing I learned from this thread.  I had no idea there was so much love for the Geissele MK4.  I am intrigued now.
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Keymod is a retarded answer to a problem that doesn't exist.  Original Geissele MK4 over all.



One thing I learned from this thread.  I had no idea there was so much love for the Geissele MK4.  I am intrigued now.

Father, forgive him, for he does not know what he does.
Link Posted: 3/23/2014 3:20:31 PM EDT
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Yup.



I have a VLTOR CAS-V foreend, and for that there are railed sections you put on to attach things.



Keymod is basically a standard, so you don't have to worry about getting VLTOR rail sections, or Troy rail sections, etc.  

And I'm sure going forward, there will be more things that are direct keymod, eliminating the need for rails.



And the advantage?    Weight and comfort IMO.  

 
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Pretty sure it's just a standard way to attach rails and shit to the handguard.. so you don't have to get rails and all that are specific to your handguard.


So you buy a keyed system to buy railed keyed sections to add 1913 std things you own to it?



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Yup.



I have a VLTOR CAS-V foreend, and for that there are railed sections you put on to attach things.



Keymod is basically a standard, so you don't have to worry about getting VLTOR rail sections, or Troy rail sections, etc.  

And I'm sure going forward, there will be more things that are direct keymod, eliminating the need for rails.



And the advantage?    Weight and comfort IMO.  

 
+1 and its far superior then older style modular rails where you have to fish tabs inside the tube to attach something.

 
Link Posted: 3/23/2014 3:24:53 PM EDT
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I like the idea, rails can be sharp. It would be nice just to have rail where you need it and have the rest of the hand guard thin and smooth.


 
That's why the old MK4s and URX3s were nice.




Keymod just makes those heavier and have attachment points where you will never attach anything.
It makes those rails heavy(Geissele), but not something the the BCM KMR which is very light at 7.7 oz with barrel nut.

 
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You and me both, Tim.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 1:51:00 AM EDT
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Looks like somone is finally ending the keymod madness.



http://geissele.com/m-lok-technology
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 2:09:45 AM EDT
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Bigger slots. Less metal. Next step in the evolution has to be "Tactical Welding Gloves".
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 3:02:49 AM EDT
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Its the shit per GD.  Ill stick with a semi traditional Geisele MK1 myself
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 3:52:35 AM EDT
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Ok ,while it may look better then having a rail of dicks can we just have the MK4 OG back please?
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  Its already back. Long live MK4.

MK8 does look nice though.
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Ok ,while it may look better then having a rail of dicks can we just have the MK4 OG back please?

  Its already back. Long live MK4.

MK8 does look nice though.


WAIT.
REALLY?

TAKE MY MONEY!
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Ok ,while it may look better then having a rail of dicks can we just have the MK4 OG back please?




Its already back. Long live MK4.






MK8 does look nice though.


I'm so glad I didn't have the money to get a MK2 this month.



If the MK8 is as light as it looks, it's going to be one hell of a rail
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Ok ,while it may look better then having a rail of dicks can we just have the MK4 OG back please?



Its already back. Long live MK4.




MK8 does look nice though.


I'm so glad I didn't have the money to get a MK2 this month.



If the MK8 is as light as it looks, it's going to be one hell of a rail




 
I can assure you guys that if you like the ergos and aesthetics of the MK4, you will appreciate the features and design cues of the MK8.  Truth be told, I was always a fan of the MK4 Mod 0 square relief cuts on the bottom of the rail but the issue was that a finger could slip through and burn on the barrel.  Chances were nil but that's the reason for the change.  Now the MK8 goes back to that design, albeit slightly modified square size and I think it just looks killer.  




In the hands, the rail feels light as the MK4 Mod 1 non-keymod.  I don't have actual numbers to provide.  
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