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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:11:12 PM EDT
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In for the answer.
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:12:03 PM EDT
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In for the answer. Never heard of this |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:12:23 PM EDT
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Pretty sure it's just a standard way to attach rails and shit to the handguard.. so you don't have to get rails and all that are specific to your handguard.
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:13:01 PM EDT
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Pretty sure it's just a standard way to attach rails and shit to the handguard.. so you don't have to get rails and all that are specific to your handguard. |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:13:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: Why is keymod a thing? What does it do over ff handguards with rail sections? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Its a universal attachment system for your universal attachment system. So you can attach while you attach. Dog.
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:13:37 PM EDT
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A sneaky way for manufacturers to trick you into having a bunch of tiny dicks on your free floats
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:13:38 PM EDT
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Lighter and more comfortable. That's about it. I like Magpul forends just as much, basically the same purpose.
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:14:18 PM EDT
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Rails are optional.....
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:15:43 PM EDT
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double tap
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:16:20 PM EDT
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Nothing new. It's been available at Home Depot for years.
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:16:40 PM EDT
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Pretty sure it's just a standard way to attach rails and shit to the handguard.. so you don't have to get rails and all that are specific to your handguard. So you buy a keyed system to buy railed keyed sections to add 1913 std things you own to it? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:19:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you buy a keyed system to buy railed keyed sections to add 1913 std things you own to it?  |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:19:22 PM EDT
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Nothing new. It's been available at Home Depot for years. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/546/mb6q.jpg hey, shut up already! You tryin to ruin this for the tier one folks? I want to see someone paki tape four of those to an MOE forend and post the world's first poor man's keymod rail. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:19:40 PM EDT
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So you buy a keyed system to buy railed keyed sections to add 1913 std things you own to it? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pretty sure it's just a standard way to attach rails and shit to the handguard.. so you don't have to get rails and all that are specific to your handguard. So you buy a keyed system to buy railed keyed sections to add 1913 std things you own to it? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile There's mounts with keymod attachments, so imagine directly attaching a light without the added bulk of a pictatinny rail. |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:21:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you buy a keyed system to buy railed keyed sections to add 1913 std things you own to it? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pretty sure it's just a standard way to attach rails and shit to the handguard.. so you don't have to get rails and all that are specific to your handguard. So you buy a keyed system to buy railed keyed sections to add 1913 std things you own to it? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yup. I have a VLTOR CAS-V foreend, and for that there are railed sections you put on to attach things. Keymod is basically a standard, so you don't have to worry about getting VLTOR rail sections, or Troy rail sections, etc. And I'm sure going forward, there will be more things that are direct keymod, eliminating the need for rails. And the advantage? Weight and comfort IMO. |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:22:02 PM EDT
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It is like Barbie for the AR-15
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:22:03 PM EDT
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How else would you make a standard rail attachment system, MORE STANDARD!
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:22:11 PM EDT
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So you have to buy mounts to mount the things you own to your new rail that makes it easier to mount things?
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:22:37 PM EDT
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In this thread I plead Geissele to Continue manufacturing the MK4 rail. Keymod sucks!
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:24:25 PM EDT
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So you have to buy mounts to mount the things you own to your new rail that makes other easier to mount things? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile A no bullshit none sarcastic answer: When people started making modular rails with proprietary rail add ons someone wanted to make it standardized, and then keymod came along. 2 steps forward, 1 step back, and then another forward |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:25:13 PM EDT
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How easy is it to mount something to an AK?
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:25:56 PM EDT
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I have two Fortis REV rails (and am considering a third) which have Keymod attachment points on the sides. I wouldn't have bought them if they didn't have full rails on the top and bottom with rail sections on the front sides. Keymod is pointless for me but it's more comfortable to hold than a sharp rail.
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:27:44 PM EDT
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How easy is it to mount something to an AK? As easy as buying a roll of Duct tape. |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:28:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's mounts with keymod attachments, so imagine directly attaching a light without the added bulk of a pictatinny rail. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Pretty sure it's just a standard way to attach rails and shit to the handguard.. so you don't have to get rails and all that are specific to your handguard. So you buy a keyed system to buy railed keyed sections to add 1913 std things you own to it? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile There's mounts with keymod attachments, so imagine directly attaching a light without the added bulk of a pictatinny rail. this i think its more of a way to make a fore-end that modular with out covering it in rails. you buy keymod attachment instead of picatinny. |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:29:52 PM EDT
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God dammit. Will not comply.
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:32:49 PM EDT
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How easy is it to mount something to an AK? AKs had throw lever quick release mounts before ARs had rails. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:34:26 PM EDT
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this i think its more of a way to make a fore-end that modular with out covering it in rails. you buy keymod attachment instead of picatinny. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pretty sure it's just a standard way to attach rails and shit to the handguard.. so you don't have to get rails and all that are specific to your handguard. So you buy a keyed system to buy railed keyed sections to add 1913 std things you own to it? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile There's mounts with keymod attachments, so imagine directly attaching a light without the added bulk of a pictatinny rail. this i think its more of a way to make a fore-end that modular with out covering it in rails. you buy keymod attachment instead of picatinny. And the keymod parts are standard. The picatinny rail sections that bolted to the handguard weren't.. so you had to make sure the ones you bought worked for your specific handguard. I think keymod is a decent enough idea.. but I don't see why they all just didn't make the rail sections to the same standard (screw size, spacing, etc) instead of making something completely new. |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:36:04 PM EDT
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Rails are optional.....http://<a href=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/bstonemega/IMAG1752_zpsa0ce843d.jpg</a>" /> So - you use picatinny key mod rails so you can put picatinny rail covers on your picatinny key mod rails so your hands don't get cut on the optional picatinny key mod rails? I'm not seeing the point of having optional picatinny key mod rails here.
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:36:23 PM EDT
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AKs had throw lever quick release mounts before ARs had rails. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How easy is it to mount something to an AK? AKs had throw lever quick release mounts before ARs had rails. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 
ETA: Midwest Industries also solves that problem nicely... |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:37:35 PM EDT
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So - you use picatinny key mod rails so you can put picatinny rail covers on your picatinny key mod rails so your hands don't get cut on the optional picatinny key mod rails? I'm not seeing the point of having optional picatinny key mod rails here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rails are optional.....http://<a href=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/bstonemega/IMAG1752_zpsa0ce843d.jpg</a>" /> So - you use picatinny key mod rails so you can put picatinny rail covers on your picatinny key mod rails so your hands don't get cut on the optional picatinny key mod rails? I'm not seeing the point of having optional picatinny key mod rails here. Light weight and tactical universal oneness, or something I guess. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:38:41 PM EDT
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Obvious man here. They do this stuff in the name of innovation and making your rail "lighter" and "more comfortable" when in reality they are convincing you that last years model is problematic and all the cool kids are using this years model.
I don't think there's much markup or margin in AR rifles when they can be had for $600. I think there's a ton to be made selling $250 rails to attach $175 flashlights. |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:39:01 PM EDT
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Light weight and tactical universal oneness, or something I guess. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rails are optional.....http://<a href=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/bstonemega/IMAG1752_zpsa0ce843d.jpg</a>" /> So - you use picatinny key mod rails so you can put picatinny rail covers on your picatinny key mod rails so your hands don't get cut on the optional picatinny key mod rails? I'm not seeing the point of having optional picatinny key mod rails here. Light weight and tactical universal oneness, or something I guess. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile My mind is blowing..... |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:39:44 PM EDT
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Light weight and tactical universal oneness, or something I guess. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rails are optional.....http://<a href=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/bstonemega/IMAG1752_zpsa0ce843d.jpg</a>" /> So - you use picatinny key mod rails so you can put picatinny rail covers on your picatinny key mod rails so your hands don't get cut on the optional picatinny key mod rails? I'm not seeing the point of having optional picatinny key mod rails here. Light weight and tactical universal oneness, or something I guess. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Which is why the MK4 was and always will be the best rail ever. 
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:40:39 PM EDT
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Light weight and tactical universal oneness, or something I guess. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rails are optional.....http://<a href=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/bstonemega/IMAG1752_zpsa0ce843d.jpg</a>" /> So - you use picatinny key mod rails so you can put picatinny rail covers on your picatinny key mod rails so your hands don't get cut on the optional picatinny key mod rails? I'm not seeing the point of having optional picatinny key mod rails here. Light weight and tactical universal oneness, or something I guess. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Now youre getting it! 
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:41:25 PM EDT
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Light weight and tactical universal oneness, or something I guess. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rails are optional.....http://<a href=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/bstonemega/IMAG1752_zpsa0ce843d.jpg</a>" /> So - you use picatinny key mod rails so you can put picatinny rail covers on your picatinny key mod rails so your hands don't get cut on the optional picatinny key mod rails? I'm not seeing the point of having optional picatinny key mod rails here. Light weight and tactical universal oneness, or something I guess. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile those covers mount without rails (direct to the keymod) only reason I have is because they were cheap 
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:42:48 PM EDT
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Which is why the MK4 was and always will be the best rail ever. http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2851/11249219165_bf01d4ca38_b.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rails are optional.....http://<a href=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/bstonemega/IMAG1752_zpsa0ce843d.jpg</a>" /> So - you use picatinny key mod rails so you can put picatinny rail covers on your picatinny key mod rails so your hands don't get cut on the optional picatinny key mod rails? I'm not seeing the point of having optional picatinny key mod rails here. Light weight and tactical universal oneness, or something I guess. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Which is why the MK4 was and always will be the best rail ever. http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2851/11249219165_bf01d4ca38_b.jpg It's been keyed :( Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:43:37 PM EDT
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Yep I'm glad I got two before they did it.
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:44:43 PM EDT
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Light weight and tactical universal oneness, or something I guess. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rails are optional.....http://<a href=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/bstonemega/IMAG1752_zpsa0ce843d.jpg</a>" /> So - you use picatinny key mod rails so you can put picatinny rail covers on your picatinny key mod rails so your hands don't get cut on the optional picatinny key mod rails? I'm not seeing the point of having optional picatinny key mod rails here. Light weight and tactical universal oneness, or something I guess. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Lighter weight taticooler universe. 
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:45:07 PM EDT
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Nothing new. It's been available at Home Depot for years. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/546/mb6q.jpg This. |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:46:57 PM EDT
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I like the idea, rails can be sharp. It would be nice just to have rail where you need it and have the rest of the hand guard thin and smooth.
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:48:25 PM EDT
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A rail system that doesn't require the cheese grater bulk and weight of the rail sections. There are a lot of accessories coming out that connect directly to the keymod slots. Basically shaving some considerable weight while giving you a nice smooth grip that can't be as easily damaged by dings and drops. No need for covers.
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:48:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the idea, rails can be sharp. It would be nice just to have rail where you need it and have the rest of the hand guard thin and smooth. That's why the old MK4s and URX3s were nice. Keymod just makes those heavier and have attachment points where you will never attach anything.
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:49:32 PM EDT
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I like the idea, rails can be sharp. It would be nice just to have rail where you need it and have the rest of the hand guard thin and smooth. But the inherent problem with "modular" designs is that once you bolt on that extra rail section, then the accessory on the rail section, its fatter then if the rails were already on there. So then you might aswell come up with keymod light mounts, so in stead you are just replacing the rail attachment system with something else. |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:49:34 PM EDT
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So you buy a keyed system to buy railed keyed sections to add 1913 std things you own to it? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pretty sure it's just a standard way to attach rails and shit to the handguard.. so you don't have to get rails and all that are specific to your handguard. So you buy a keyed system to buy railed keyed sections to add 1913 std things you own to it? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No, you can buy keymod attachments and attach them without a rail... thats the point. |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:50:52 PM EDT
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That's why the old MK4s and URX3s were nice. Keymod just makes those heavier and have attachment points where you will never attach anything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like the idea, rails can be sharp. It would be nice just to have rail where you need it and have the rest of the hand guard thin and smooth. That's why the old MK4s and URX3s were nice. Keymod just makes those heavier and have attachment points where you will never attach anything. Technically the MK4 doesnt have keymod... MK5 = MK4 with keymod. First ones were made before the new naming system was adopted. Since you are friends with Bill you need to get him to rethink discontinuing the MK4's |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:51:48 PM EDT
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That's why the old MK4s and URX3s were nice. Keymod just makes those heavier and have attachment points where you will never attach anything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like the idea, rails can be sharp. It would be nice just to have rail where you need it and have the rest of the hand guard thin and smooth. That's why the old MK4s and URX3s were nice. Keymod just makes those heavier and have attachment points where you will never attach anything. Well now I can mount my dbal at 45 degrees half way up the rail!
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:52:36 PM EDT
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A rail system that doesn't require the cheese grater bulk and weight of the rail sections. There are a lot of accessories coming out that connect directly to the keymod slots. Basically shaving some considerable weight while giving you a nice smooth grip that can't be as easily damaged by dings and drops. No need for covers. Just like every other well thought out lightweight non keymod rail? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:53:51 PM EDT
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Just like every other well thought out lightweight non keymod rail? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A rail system that doesn't require the cheese grater bulk and weight of the rail sections. There are a lot of accessories coming out that connect directly to the keymod slots. Basically shaving some considerable weight while giving you a nice smooth grip that can't be as easily damaged by dings and drops. No need for covers. Just like every other well thought out lightweight non keymod rail? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile But its modular man! And I can dress up my AR differently every time I take it out! |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:55:09 PM EDT
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Just like every other well thought out lightweight non keymod rail? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A rail system that doesn't require the cheese grater bulk and weight of the rail sections. There are a lot of accessories coming out that connect directly to the keymod slots. Basically shaving some considerable weight while giving you a nice smooth grip that can't be as easily damaged by dings and drops. No need for covers. Just like every other well thought out lightweight non keymod rail? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Well then buy one of those instead.  Why are you complaining about more choices?
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Posted: 3/10/2014 8:55:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Technically the MK4 doesnt have keymod... MK5 = MK4 with keymod. First ones were made before the new naming system was adopted. They make a MK4 keymod which hs the same rails up front as old MK4 but keymod in back. MK5 is all keymod. Both are heavier than old MK4
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