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Posted: 3/9/2014 6:39:08 AM EDT
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To plant in the luggage of Patriotic Americans?
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Posted: 3/9/2014 6:39:21 AM EDT
[#2]
May the Wile E. Coyote be with them.
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Posted: 3/9/2014 6:40:50 AM EDT
[#3]
They need something to shoot at
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Posted: 3/9/2014 6:49:28 AM EDT
[#4]
When the government wants to start blowing us up, I suspect they'll use something besides sticks of dynamite.
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Posted: 3/9/2014 6:49:43 AM EDT
[#5]
Meanwhile, Somewhere at a DHS training facility.
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Posted: 3/9/2014 6:59:55 AM EDT
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all 1980 sticks...... WOW I'm worried..... the is more potentially explosive energy from one Walmart truck
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Posted: 3/9/2014 7:17:23 AM EDT
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the other question is what idiot refers to dynamite as a "high power explosive"? It's the same idiot who says "high round bullet clip." |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 7:19:34 AM EDT
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the other question is what idiot refers to dynamite as a "high power explosive"? Just what do you call it? |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 7:56:31 AM EDT
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or test explosive effects or test disruptors against real explosives or other training It could be a plethora of things. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Calibrate chemical sniffers or train explosive dogs? or test disruptors against real explosives or other training It could be a plethora of things. That sounds like tests that would be performed by the NTSB, FBI, and BATFE. The solicitation specifies TSA, not anyone else. |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:00:57 AM EDT
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So they can blow up your gun safe.
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:01:12 AM EDT
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Hope they keep it secured. With the two digit IQs of most TSA sorts, I'd expect a cartoon-style "Hey, a candle!" scene.
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:06:35 AM EDT
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That sounds like tests that would be performed by the NTSB, FBI, and BATFE. The solicitation specifies TSA, not anyone else. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Calibrate chemical sniffers or train explosive dogs? or test disruptors against real explosives or other training It could be a plethora of things. That sounds like tests that would be performed by the NTSB, FBI, and BATFE. The solicitation specifies TSA, not anyone else. Not uncommon with govt purchases. If one agency wants somethingspecific that another agency is supporting, the first agency does all the purchasing and other stuff on behalf of the supporting agency |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:08:10 AM EDT
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The question then remains: Why would the TSA purchase dynamite? That's easy... Set off a few sticks around the airport, depot, or bus terminal. Drum up new business.   
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:23:54 AM EDT
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This is almost too easy.
They have to calibrate their new explosives sensors, so that terrorists won't be able to blow planes up over the South China Sea. (Bonus - How many NSA keywords in the above sentence?) |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:28:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Side note: The 3.4 million rounds of ammo is FMJ, and it's enough for the 3,400 air marshals to each have 1,000 training rounds. I'd say 87% of this forum has more than 1,000 rounds for training. |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:31:18 AM EDT
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Divide the number of sticks of dynamite by the number of agents and I think you will find your answer.
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:35:33 AM EDT
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We train with the TSA bomb guys, I have yet to see them demo anything. They do more threat assessment, Xray interpretation and grooming relations with their local squads than actual handling bang. Im doing a demo range with them Wednesday. |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:36:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: TSA has the BAO/TSS-E which are demo certified and do have access to explosives. I conduct training with them all the time. There was been a push to turn them into an actual federal bomb squad available to all federal agencies so customs, DHS, border patrol, etc. can stop beg, borrowing, and stealing bomb squad response assets from everywhere else. As such the TSA guys have been conducting a lot of demo training for the past several years. Ive cooked peroxide based HME with TSA before, and done tons of demo with them utilizing their own explosives. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There are much cheaper/easier/safer ways to calibrate equipment and train dogs than waving around half pound sticks of high NG content dynamite. It's just real dynamite is a lot less stable than something like C4. I doubt this is for dogs or calibration due to real dynamites unstable nature. This has to be for the type of training where they detonate explosives. Even just a month of high temperature or high humidity degrades NG based dynamite. TSA has the BAO/TSS-E which are demo certified and do have access to explosives. I conduct training with them all the time. There was been a push to turn them into an actual federal bomb squad available to all federal agencies so customs, DHS, border patrol, etc. can stop beg, borrowing, and stealing bomb squad response assets from everywhere else. As such the TSA guys have been conducting a lot of demo training for the past several years. Ive cooked peroxide based HME with TSA before, and done tons of demo with them utilizing their own explosives. |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:36:53 AM EDT
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The question then remains: Why would the TSA purchase dynamite? http://www.thegatewaypundit.com http://www.prepperpodcast.com/tsa-orders-over-half-ton-of-high-powered-explosive/#axzz2vO0iidH Because they have no NSN for Tannerite? I'd hate to be the guy who has to light and throw it, though. |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:37:50 AM EDT
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Just what do you call it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the other question is what idiot refers to dynamite as a "high power explosive"? Just what do you call it? "High Yield Explosives" or just "High Explosives"? |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:38:01 AM EDT
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FAMS shoot more than 1k rounds per year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Side note: The 3.4 million rounds of ammo is FMJ, and it's enough for the 3,400 air marshals to each have 1,000 training rounds. I'd say 87% of this forum has more than 1,000 rounds for training. Math...how does it work? From RT.com May 13, 2013:US DHS already bought 360,000 rounds of hollow point bullets and 1.5 billion rounds in 2012 So I guess we have 3,400,000 air marshals.
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:42:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My most educated guess would be they need all that Dynermite for a false flsg operstion. |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:45:57 AM EDT
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Well, the guys local to me always travel somewhere else to do their demo training and it is hosted by another fed agency or the MIL. Im military, We can do ranges with them but there are restrictions on what types of class V we can use because they are civilians. The bulk explosives have to come from them, we can only provide initiators and disposable explosive tools. The TSS-E program is large a spread out being based out of airports, so obviously most of them dont have access to demo ranges. A lot of them do travel. They have hubs where they have access to demo storage and ranges. Colorado springs is one of those hubs, a lot of TSA guys travel there and they use the city and county range. TSA does have its own demo and storage capability, but teams are not individually equipped with it yet, just like they dont have actual team gear and RSP capability to make them actual bomb squad response capable. Its the direction they are going though, the agents were only demo certified within the last few years. The next step is pushing guys through HDS, certifying them on device RSP, and equipping them with actual response equipment and individual demo. The dynamite would have to be for basic demo training, as its not used for stateside bomb squad use. I use it in Afghsnistan all the time, but ive never seen anyone stateside have a use for it besides demo training in general. |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:48:31 AM EDT
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Math...how does it work? From RT.com May 13, 2013:US DHS So I guess we have 3,400,000 air marshals. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Side note: The 3.4 million rounds of ammo is FMJ, and it's enough for the 3,400 air marshals to each have 1,000 training rounds. I'd say 87% of this forum has more than 1,000 rounds for training. Math...how does it work? From RT.com May 13, 2013:US DHS already bought 360,000 rounds of hollow point bullets and 1.5 billion rounds in 2012 So I guess we have 3,400,000 air marshals. 
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/04/The-Great-DHS-Ammunition-Stockpile-Myth I don't know what's worse: Citing a Russian .gov propaganda news agency or still buying into the DHS ammo myth.
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:48:55 AM EDT
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Can't have a Reichstag fire without matches.
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Posted: 3/9/2014 10:09:17 AM EDT
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It's all fun and games until the handler forgets what he has and decides to play fetch.
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Posted: 3/9/2014 10:19:24 AM EDT
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/04/The-Great-DHS-Ammunition-Stockpile-Myth I don't know what's worse: Citing a Russian .gov propaganda news agency or still buying into the DHS ammo myth. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Side note: The 3.4 million rounds of ammo is FMJ, and it's enough for the 3,400 air marshals to each have 1,000 training rounds. I'd say 87% of this forum has more than 1,000 rounds for training. Math...how does it work? From RT.com May 13, 2013:US DHS already bought 360,000 rounds of hollow point bullets and 1.5 billion rounds in 2012 So I guess we have 3,400,000 air marshals.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/04/The-Great-DHS-Ammunition-Stockpile-Myth I don't know what's worse: Citing a Russian .gov propaganda news agency or still buying into the DHS ammo myth. Really? Maybe you should go over to that little anarchist's thread "Josie Outlaw" and look at some of her videos of all the "alphabet" "Police" running around now. |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 10:36:09 AM EDT
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Probably because it's a high explosive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the other question is what idiot refers to dynamite as a "high power explosive"? Pretty sure it is 1.1 |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 10:43:02 AM EDT
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The question then remains: Why would the TSA purchase dynamite? http://www.thegatewaypundit.com http://www.prepperpodcast.com/tsa-orders-over-half-ton-of-high-powered-explosive/#axzz2vO0iidH prepper pod cast LOL. the source for all your chicken little needs. |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 12:03:25 PM EDT
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Math...how does it work? From RT.com May 13, 2013:US DHS So I guess we have 3,400,000 air marshals. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Side note: The 3.4 million rounds of ammo is FMJ, and it's enough for the 3,400 air marshals to each have 1,000 training rounds. I'd say 87% of this forum has more than 1,000 rounds for training. Math...how does it work? From RT.com May 13, 2013:US DHS already bought 360,000 rounds of hollow point bullets and 1.5 billion rounds in 2012 So I guess we have 3,400,000 air marshals. Please provide a link so I can tear your "source" a new asshole. |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 12:04:45 PM EDT
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Pretty sure it is 1.1 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the other question is what idiot refers to dynamite as a "high power explosive"? Pretty sure it is 1.1 It is, dynamite is definitely a high explosive. |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:05:33 AM EDT
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Im military, We can do ranges with them but there are restrictions on what types of class V we can use because they are civilians. The bulk explosives have to come from them, we can only provide initiators and disposable explosive tools. The TSS-E program is large a spread out being based out of airports, so obviously most of them dont have access to demo ranges. A lot of them do travel. They have hubs where they have access to demo storage and ranges. Colorado springs is one of those hubs, a lot of TSA guys travel there and they use the city and county range. TSA does have its own demo and storage capability, but teams are not individually equipped with it yet, just like they dont have actual team gear and RSP capability to make them actual bomb squad response capable. Its the direction they are going though, the agents were only demo certified within the last few years. The next step is pushing guys through HDS, certifying them on device RSP, and equipping them with actual response equipment and individual demo. The dynamite would have to be for basic demo training, as its not used for stateside bomb squad use. I use it in Afghsnistan all the time, but ive never seen anyone stateside have a use for it besides demo training in general. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, the guys local to me always travel somewhere else to do their demo training and it is hosted by another fed agency or the MIL. Im military, We can do ranges with them but there are restrictions on what types of class V we can use because they are civilians. The bulk explosives have to come from them, we can only provide initiators and disposable explosive tools. The TSS-E program is large a spread out being based out of airports, so obviously most of them dont have access to demo ranges. A lot of them do travel. They have hubs where they have access to demo storage and ranges. Colorado springs is one of those hubs, a lot of TSA guys travel there and they use the city and county range. TSA does have its own demo and storage capability, but teams are not individually equipped with it yet, just like they dont have actual team gear and RSP capability to make them actual bomb squad response capable. Its the direction they are going though, the agents were only demo certified within the last few years. The next step is pushing guys through HDS, certifying them on device RSP, and equipping them with actual response equipment and individual demo. The dynamite would have to be for basic demo training, as its not used for stateside bomb squad use. I use it in Afghsnistan all the time, but ive never seen anyone stateside have a use for it besides demo training in general. I'm a local guy.. I use it as it is cheap. With the issues that HDS has with funding, I highly doubt TSS-Es will get RSP certified anytime soon. I have a great relationship with my TSS-E group. They are very helpful when traveling and put on some great drills at the airport. We have done some demo for them, but I have never seen them do demo on their own. |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:19:49 AM EDT
[#33]
To blow up dead whales on the beach?
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:20:19 AM EDT
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Its government, they'll find a way to spend money and fuck it up then throw some official label on it to justify it. This x100 Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:25:55 AM EDT
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Oh, I don't know...
Maybe this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Blow up luggage? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Blow up luggage? Or this? Quoted:
Calibrate chemical sniffers or train explosive dogs? I cannot for the life of me understand why these hoards of Alex Jones' fans think themselves so clever for "just asking questions?" Newsflash: a passive-aggressive rhetorical question is usually de facto statement. |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:48:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what's the big deal? there's a lot of crap fed agencies buy all the time. something with people asking us why we need 30 rd clits and assault rifles HELL YEAH! |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:52:57 AM EDT
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I know they're using it for training, but there is no fucking way they need that much.
Somebody is screwing around on the government's dime. What is the total number of airports? Less than 350? And the smaller ones are grouped under a region management. |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 7:08:18 AM EDT
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Calibrate chemical sniffers or train explosive dogs? That's the only legitimate use I can think of as well. |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 7:20:15 AM EDT
[#39]
What does dynamite cost these days?
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