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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:28:56 PM EDT
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http://malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/282-main-tile/492200-mas-kl-beijing-flight-missing.htmlhttp://malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/282-main-tile/492200-mas-kl-beijing-flight-missing.html Nanming looks pretty well built up on google earth. Somebody would be on twitter or something. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:30:17 PM EDT
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Nanming looks pretty well built up on google earth. Somebody would be on twitter or something. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/282-main-tile/492200-mas-kl-beijing-flight-missing.htmlhttp://malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/282-main-tile/492200-mas-kl-beijing-flight-missing.html Nanming looks pretty well built up on google earth. Somebody would be on twitter or something. According to a reddit thread, Twitter is the source used in the linked article. The Associated Press ?@AP 11m
China's state news agency says communication with Malaysia Airlines flight was lost over Vietnam; 239 on board |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:32:11 PM EDT
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According to a reddit thread, Twitter is the source used in the linked article. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/282-main-tile/492200-mas-kl-beijing-flight-missing.htmlhttp://malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/282-main-tile/492200-mas-kl-beijing-flight-missing.html Nanming looks pretty well built up on google earth. Somebody would be on twitter or something. According to a reddit thread, Twitter is the source used in the linked article. Circle jerk news reporting like in US? |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:32:45 PM EDT
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Circle jerk news reporting like in US? Most likely |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:33:40 PM EDT
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Malaysia Airlines still reports the plane as missing.
Supposedly a news conference to come "shortly" |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:34:33 PM EDT
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Malaysia Airlines still reports the plane as missing. Supposedly a news conference to come "shortly" That does not sound hopeful. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:37:36 PM EDT
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Malaysia Airlines still reports the plane as missing. Supposedly a news conference to come "shortly" That does not sound hopeful. There was some footage of the Malaysian airlines news conference on the Kelly file a few minutes ago. It wasn't in English so they cut away and started speculating. 
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:38:03 PM EDT
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That does not sound hopeful. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Malaysia Airlines still reports the plane as missing. Supposedly a news conference to come "shortly" That does not sound hopeful. No,and MH is contacting family of crew and pax. Again, not reliable facts, consider rumor at best |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:38:26 PM EDT
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There was some footage of the Malaysian airlines news conference on the Kelly file a few minutes ago. It wasn't in English so they cut away and started speculating. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Malaysia Airlines still reports the plane as missing. Supposedly a news conference to come "shortly" That does not sound hopeful. There was some footage of the Malaysian airlines news conference on the Kelly file a few minutes ago. It wasn't in English so they cut away and started speculating. It hasn't started yet. They were announcing when the conference would start. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:41:00 PM EDT
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Well, it drastically depends on the nature of the emergency, and if they are out of radio range. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The apparent lack of an emergency call interests me. How often do airliners go down without getting off a mayday? Well, it drastically depends on the nature of the emergency, and if they are out of radio range. The Blue- Gotta have HF to jump the ponds / open water. We talked to Stockholm for our HF ops checks and after bouncing off the ionisphere, not much outta range with that and VSAT |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:42:29 PM EDT
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Wee too lo flying it again? No, it was Bang Ding Ow who was just cleared to fly again.. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:42:43 PM EDT
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NTSB ?@NTSB 14s
We are aware of reports of the loss of Malaysia MH370, a Boeing 777-200 and are monitoring the situation. Poor or proper choice of words? |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:42:57 PM EDT
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FOX News Megyn Kelly stated the aircraft was 35K AGL when comms were lost.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:42:57 PM EDT
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skyNEWS reporter just said "Rumors of the plane landing in Nanning are false, we spoke to a representative at Nanning, and they said the plane isn't there."
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:43:47 PM EDT
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20 year flawless history in one of the finest airliners on earth.
Total loss at 35k feet? Bomb. Zero doubts in my mind. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:44:22 PM EDT
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Sky News reporting Chinese authorities at Nanning say aircraft has not landed there
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:46:26 PM EDT
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20 year flawless history in one of the finest airliners on earth. Total loss at 35k feet? Bomb. Zero doubts in my mind. Certainly a believable possibility. Does the 777 have any history of 737 like rudder anomalies or similar catastrophic failures? |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:47:19 PM EDT
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20 year flawless history in one of the finest airliners on earth. Total loss at 35k feet? Bomb. Zero doubts in my mind. Yup. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:47:20 PM EDT
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Presser in 15 min
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:48:04 PM EDT
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One incident into the UK where it lost control over idled engines, and landed short.
One crash into SF by poor flying crew. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:48:35 PM EDT
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20 year flawless history in one of the finest airliners on earth. Total loss at 35k feet? Bomb. Zero doubts in my mind. Again, I'm not the expert, but this is what I've been thinking. Hope I'm just ignorant and very incorrect. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:49:08 PM EDT
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Presser in 15 min What channel ? got it |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:49:40 PM EDT
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Again, I'm not the expert, but this is what I've been thinking. Hope I'm just ignorant and very incorrect. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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20 year flawless history in one of the finest airliners on earth. Total loss at 35k feet? Bomb. Zero doubts in my mind. Again, I'm not the expert, but this is what I've been thinking. Hope I'm just ignorant and very incorrect. I hope I am wrong too. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:50:52 PM EDT
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Terrorists would rather make a statement of sort than make a plane disappear.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:50:53 PM EDT
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Presser in 15 min What channel ? It is in Malaysia , but CNN, Fox, etc should pick it up |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:52:49 PM EDT
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One incident into the UK where it lost control over idled engines, and landed short. One crash into SF by poor flying crew. Wasn't that one blamed on frozen fuel? |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:54:06 PM EDT
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Wasn't that one blamed on frozen fuel? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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One incident into the UK where it lost control over idled engines, and landed short. One crash into SF by poor flying crew. Wasn't that one blamed on frozen fuel? Yea it was some kinda fucked up weird explanation. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:55:12 PM EDT
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Terrorists would rather make a statement of sort than make a plane disappear. Reports are that the majority of passengers are Chinese nationals. Are the ROPer's mad at China too? |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:56:38 PM EDT
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Reports are that the majority of passengers are Chinese nationals. Are the ROPer's mad at China too? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Terrorists would rather make a statement of sort than make a plane disappear. Reports are that the majority of passengers are Chinese nationals. Are the ROPer's mad at China too? I've been led to believe that they are mad at everyone who isn't them.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:56:53 PM EDT
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Reports are that the majority of passengers are Chinese nationals. Are the ROPer's mad at China too? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Terrorists would rather make a statement of sort than make a plane disappear. Reports are that the majority of passengers are Chinese nationals. Are the ROPer's mad at China too? There are ROPers *in* China: Link |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:58:31 PM EDT
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I've been led to believe that they are mad at everyone who isn't them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Terrorists would rather make a statement of sort than make a plane disappear. Reports are that the majority of passengers are Chinese nationals. Are the ROPer's mad at China too? I've been led to believe that they are mad at everyone who isn't them. Sounds about right. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:59:54 PM EDT
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Pilot suicide?
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:02:14 PM EDT
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Is it ironic that a Boeing commercial just came on?
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:02:55 PM EDT
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I'm sure our friends on Hainan Island probably had a good track on it.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:06:35 PM EDT
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BBC News reported plane lost contact with Ho Chi Minh City ATC at 01:20 local time
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:10:23 PM EDT
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Terrorists would rather make a statement of sort than make a plane disappear. Loss of a 777 and all souls aboard makes a big statement, if indeed it was a bombing that took out the jet. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:10:44 PM EDT
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Yea it was some kinda fucked up weird explanation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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One incident into the UK where it lost control over idled engines, and landed short. One crash into SF by poor flying crew. Wasn't that one blamed on frozen fuel? Yea it was some kinda fucked up weird explanation. Water in the fuel, which iced up on the fuel filter and starved the engines. I once saw an estimated 8000 lb chunk of ice in a fuel tank before. We actually had to sit the airplane for several days to let the ice melt and drain out of the sumps. A 777 does not lose all coms and disappear at 35K, unless you're facing an explosive event. All cautions and warnings are transmitted to a data station in near real time. As far as the speculated 737 rudder reversal incident, that would be nearly statistically impossible. 737's used a combined uinit for the rudder actuator, the 777 has three separate and independent actuators. If you have one that disagrees with the the other two, first the ACMS logs the fault, and if the actuator is forcefull enough with a faulty input, there is a rivet that will shear in the bell crank assembly that will disconnect the faulty actuator from the flgiht control. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:13:12 PM EDT
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I hope I am wrong too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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20 year flawless history in one of the finest airliners on earth. Total loss at 35k feet? Bomb. Zero doubts in my mind. Again, I'm not the expert, but this is what I've been thinking. Hope I'm just ignorant and very incorrect. I hope I am wrong too. Didn't a 747 disapear over the Indian Ocean in the 80's, and it turned out the tail section snapped off? Maybe something like that happened? |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:18:57 PM EDT
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Have to wonder if the terrorists would take a chance on pissing off the Chinese. I suspect the Chinese would not be quite as worried about 'human rights violations' etc in sorting out responsible parties.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:19:21 PM EDT
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I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that there was a J.P. Morgan Bank exec on board, or someone high up who had something to do with the MtGox bit coin exchange bankruptcy, or both.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:20:41 PM EDT
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This aircraft supposedly had some damage from ground collision with another aircraft. Wing damage I think.
Was repaired last summer/fall |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:21:14 PM EDT
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Malaysia Airlines says 3 US citizens, 1 infant on board missing flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - live videoMalaysia Airlines says passengers on missing flight were from China, |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:21:57 PM EDT
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Terrorists would rather make a statement of sort than make a plane disappear. I have to say you're wrong on that. There was an Indian Airlines 747 that other aircraft saw have an explosion, roll inverted and go straight down into the Atlantic because of a bomb planted by terrorists fighting the Indian government in Ceylon. IIRC there was no claim made and it took an investigation to determine it was the Tamil resistance that did the bombing. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:24:24 PM EDT
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Size of debris field will be rather telling of what happened, at least roughly.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:25:05 PM EDT
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20 year flawless history in one of the finest airliners on earth. Total loss at 35k feet? Bomb. Zero doubts in my mind. I posted about a loss yesterday. Fire attributed to IFE. More likely than snackbar. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:26:46 PM EDT
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Have to wonder if the terrorists would take a chance on pissing off the Chinese. I suspect the Chinese would not be quite as worried about 'human rights violations' etc in sorting out responsible parties. I don't know that fundamentalists concern themselves with ramifications. That is something that politicians do. Do terrorists care that they are taking on a bully that can kick their ass? I actually think that is exactly who terrorists are going after in the first place.....they don't need to terrorize weaker parties...they can just defeat them. They need to terrorize stronger parties, because that is their only recourse. Not sure what is worse....dying prematurely because of a terror attack, or because of a flawed design or failure to properly maintain equipment. Death is death I suppose, but I guess if I could script it, I'd want it to be a little more epic that some guy screwing up a calculation in a cubicle in some office park. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:27:03 PM EDT
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I posted about a loss yesterday. Fire attributed to IFE. More likely than snackbar. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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20 year flawless history in one of the finest airliners on earth. Total loss at 35k feet? Bomb. Zero doubts in my mind. I posted about a loss yesterday. Fire attributed to IFE. More likely than snackbar. Oh sure, fire is huge. The South African combi 747 had a bad fire. All died. Swiss Air MD-11. Bad fire. All died. But there was plenty of radio comms. At least initially. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:28:21 PM EDT
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This aircraft supposedly had some damage from ground collision with another aircraft. Wing damage I think. Was repaired last summer/fall The 747 I mentioned above had been repaired previously as well. I think it was called a "tail strike"? It took off too steeply and the tail hit the runway. (I think that's how to describe it) |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:30:54 PM EDT
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Sounds like snackbar.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:31:20 PM EDT
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Weather in the area?
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