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Posted: 2/8/2014 2:44:08 PM EDT
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Letting them shoot .22 is da ghey Give them .308 and make it challenging. The original biathlons were done at 200 and 400 yards with military bolt guns with military ammo. |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 2:48:53 PM EDT
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Aguila target, and some higher end manufacturers of precision .22 ammo. It's actually amazing how accurate Winchester Standard Velocity is. As long as the bullet doesn't push the transonic barrier, even relatively low cost ammo punches a single hole at 50yds from a good rifle off a bench rest. Since Air rifles and .22LR is all the Europeans are allowed, they grow up with them and have built some incredibly crazy accurate rifles. The Hammerli airguns with electronic triggers are awesome to shoot, but very far from "affordable". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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i was just googling on more info on those rifles - are they .22 handloads? etc Can you even hand load .22? Seems like a royal pita Aguila target, and some higher end manufacturers of precision .22 ammo. It's actually amazing how accurate Winchester Standard Velocity is. As long as the bullet doesn't push the transonic barrier, even relatively low cost ammo punches a single hole at 50yds from a good rifle off a bench rest. Since Air rifles and .22LR is all the Europeans are allowed, they grow up with them and have built some incredibly crazy accurate rifles. The Hammerli airguns with electronic triggers are awesome to shoot, but very far from "affordable". 
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Posted: 2/8/2014 3:12:41 PM EDT
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Damn, I'd give them a solid 10 for that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd laugh if the US team showed up looking like operators and raped everything with mag dumps Can Jerry Miculek ski? It would be worth watching just for him giggling after smoking all the targets in .87 seconds. 
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Posted: 2/8/2014 3:14:09 PM EDT
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That's because most have never had the heart rate above 80 let alone try to shoot with it at 140 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IN before the GD mouth breathers that think Biathlon is gay and not a real sport. I remember that from the last Winter Olympics That's because most have never had the heart rate above 80 let alone try to shoot with it at 140 I'd wager the average GD member's resting heart rate is above 80 
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Posted: 2/8/2014 5:16:13 PM EDT
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i was just googling on more info on those rifles - are they .22 handloads? etc Can you even hand load .22? Seems like a royal pita Aguila target, and some higher end manufacturers of precision .22 ammo. It's actually amazing how accurate Winchester Standard Velocity is. As long as the bullet doesn't push the transonic barrier, even relatively low cost ammo punches a single hole at 50yds from a good rifle off a bench rest. Since Air rifles and .22LR is all the Europeans are allowed, they grow up with them and have built some incredibly crazy accurate rifles. The Hammerli airguns with electronic triggers are awesome to shoot, but very far from "affordable". Sorry, it was a generalization compared to what free states have in the US. |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 5:18:06 PM EDT
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i was just googling on more info on those rifles - are they .22 handloads? etc Can you even hand load .22? Seems like a royal pita Aguila target, and some higher end manufacturers of precision .22 ammo. It's actually amazing how accurate Winchester Standard Velocity is. As long as the bullet doesn't push the transonic barrier, even relatively low cost ammo punches a single hole at 50yds from a good rifle off a bench rest. Since Air rifles and .22LR is all the Europeans are allowed, they grow up with them and have built some incredibly crazy accurate rifles. The Hammerli airguns with electronic triggers are awesome to shoot, but very far from "affordable". Sorry, it was a generalization compared to what free states have in the US. I can't think of a single European country with that kind of restrictions. |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 5:25:50 PM EDT
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My cousin does biathlon but didn't qualify.
Her gun has the most uncomfortable butt ever.
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Posted: 2/8/2014 5:36:42 PM EDT
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... The whole thread is full of the usual derp about any shooting sport besides dirt clods at 15 yards with AR's. The US can't even get a decent summer biathlon matches going, although with the recent interest in extreme endurance racing maybe it has a chance. |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 5:41:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My cousin does biathlon but didn't qualify. Her gun has the most uncomfortable butt ever. |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 7:44:19 PM EDT
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I was also impressed by how close the whole match was too. From Gold to Silver was less than 6 seconds after a near 25 minute event. And the poor Russian guy in 4th was just .7 second from a medal in front of the home town crowd.
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Posted: 2/8/2014 7:45:53 PM EDT
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I was also impressed by how close the whole match was too. From Gold to Silver was less than 6 seconds after a near 25 minute event. And the poor Russian guy in 4th was just .7 second from a medal in front of the home town crowd. Real racing. 
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Posted: 2/8/2014 7:47:11 PM EDT
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IN before the GD mouth breathers that think Biathlon is gay and not a real sport. I remember that from the last Winter Olympics That's because most have never had the heart rate above 80 let alone try to shoot with it at 140 No, their heart rate is always over 80bpm, their resting heart rate is probably close to 100bpm |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 7:48:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/9/2014 3:56:23 AM EDT
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The whole thread is full of the usual derp about any shooting sport besides dirt clods at 15 yards with AR's. The US can't even get a decent summer biathlon matches going, although with the recent interest in extreme endurance racing maybe it has a chance. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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... The whole thread is full of the usual derp about any shooting sport besides dirt clods at 15 yards with AR's. The US can't even get a decent summer biathlon matches going, although with the recent interest in extreme endurance racing maybe it has a chance. That doesn't sound as nearly as fun as skiing. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 7:32:30 AM EDT
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Get a Russian EAA Biathlon Basic 7-2 KO made by Izhmash. A pretty slick toggle action, bedded match barrel with a serious crown, and a decent trigger. The stock however is typical Russian quality but not too bad. I got mine for $400 about 8 years ago and its a fantastic shooter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Some crazy ass rifles. Just looked them up. Might not be getting into biathlon after all. They're awful proud of those .22s... I picked up a BB 7-2. Paid $400 for it. It has a GREAT trigger and is very accurate. The actual Biathlon Rifles have a different barrel and a different safety ... and, of course, a different stock. Not that there is anything wrong with the BB 7-2 barrel ... it is great, hammer forged to help eliminate any stresses. I bought a roughed in stock blank from Boyd's that did not have the inlet cuts ... was for a Ruger 10/22 
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Posted: 2/9/2014 8:04:06 AM EDT
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I want all the gadgets they use for shooting. The blinders and what not.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 8:17:54 AM EDT
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I raced 7.5 Biathlon and 15k classic back in the day
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Posted: 2/9/2014 8:24:28 AM EDT
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That's because most have never had the heart rate above 80 let alone try to shoot with it at 140 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IN before the GD mouth breathers that think Biathlon is gay and not a real sport. I remember that from the last Winter Olympics That's because most have never had the heart rate above 80 let alone try to shoot with it at 140 no, their heart rates stay above 140, along with their blood pressure.....primed athletes after eating all that crabmeat, hot pockets, and cheeseburgers
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Posted: 2/9/2014 8:33:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: no, their heart rates stay above 140, along with their blood pressure.....primed athletes after eating all that crabmeat, hot pockets, and cheeseburgers Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: IN before the GD mouth breathers that think Biathlon is gay and not a real sport. I remember that from the last Winter Olympics That's because most have never had the heart rate above 80 let alone try to shoot with it at 140 no, their heart rates stay above 140, along with their blood pressure.....primed athletes after eating all that crabmeat, hot pockets, and cheeseburgers You guys do know that many ARFCOM members compete in a combat Pentathalon twice a year right? |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 8:39:07 AM EDT
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Don't matter an American wont make a top 50 its one of the few events we've never had a medal in I think they said it the ONLY event we've never medaled in. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 9:06:15 AM EDT
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The US can't even get a decent summer biathlon matches going, although with the recent interest in extreme endurance racing maybe it has a chance. Tell me more of this. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 9:07:34 AM EDT
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IN before the GD mouth breathers that think Biathlon is gay and not a real sport. I remember that from the last Winter Olympics That's because most have never had the heart rate above 80 let alone try to shoot with it at 140 no, their heart rates stay above 140, along with their blood pressure.....primed athletes after eating all that crabmeat, hot pockets, and cheeseburgers You guys do know that many ARFCOM members compete in a combat Pentathalon twice a year right? They have some super secret handshake and won't let octagenarians in. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 9:09:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/9/2014 9:17:02 AM EDT
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Tell me more of this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The US can't even get a decent summer biathlon matches going, although with the recent interest in extreme endurance racing maybe it has a chance. Tell me more of this. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 9:22:45 AM EDT
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the Oklahoma Run N Gun was awesome. hot as hell 103 when I started the race. humid, like breathing thru a wet towel.
cross country ( creek bottom ) orienteering, battle gear and a shotgun battlefield pick up. rifle shooting out to 400. pistol shooting with both strong and weak hands. there are ArfCom ,members here that can straight up get it on if we have too. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 9:26:03 AM EDT
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In the old days, when it was mostly a Nordic competition, they all used service rifles, usually in 6.5x55. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Letting them shoot .22 is da ghey Give them .308 and make it challenging. In the old days, when it was mostly a Nordic competition, they all used service rifles, usually in 6.5x55. Yep, and the ranges were much longer, too. IMO they should still use service rifles (bolt-action, though) and service pistols for the various shooting events that used to use them. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 9:53:58 AM EDT
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I was shocked they showed shooting
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Posted: 2/9/2014 10:48:12 AM EDT
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I was shocked they showed shooting They gave Kim Rhode about 15sec. When NBC covered the London Games. 
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Posted: 2/9/2014 10:59:54 AM EDT
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IN before the GD mouth breathers that think Biathlon is gay and not a real sport. I remember that from the last Winter Olympics That's because most have never had the heart rate above 80 let alone try to shoot with it at 140 no, their heart rates stay above 140, along with their blood pressure.....primed athletes after eating all that crabmeat, hot pockets, and cheeseburgers You guys do know that many ARFCOM members compete in a combat Pentathalon twice a year right? I don't think one team from Finland or Russia has ever dared to compete in that...... them boys can't hold their Cola...... |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:17:44 AM EDT
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What .22 do they shoot? Reloads? Unquestioningly Eley Tennex Tenex Biathalon - Made for cold weather accuracy between 0 and -20C and a little more powerful to make sure the steel goes down: 
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:20:05 AM EDT
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Tenex Biathalon - Made for cold weather accuracy between 0 and -20C and a little more powerful to make sure the steel goes down: http://www.eley.co.uk/media_files/image/ammunition/tenex%20biathlon%20working%20cutout.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What .22 do they shoot? Reloads? Unquestioningly Eley Tennex Tenex Biathalon - Made for cold weather accuracy between 0 and -20C and a little more powerful to make sure the steel goes down: http://www.eley.co.uk/media_files/image/ammunition/tenex%20biathlon%20working%20cutout.jpg Neckbeards are covered in their own slime after this. 
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:20:54 AM EDT
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IN before the GD mouth breathers that think Biathlon is gay and not a real sport. I remember that from the last Winter Olympics That's because most have never had the heart rate above 80 let alone try to shoot with it at 140 no, their heart rates stay above 140, along with their blood pressure.....primed athletes after eating all that crabmeat, hot pockets, and cheeseburgers You guys do know that many ARFCOM members compete in a combat Pentathalon twice a year right? impossible IMPOSSIBLE I SAY! |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:30:44 AM EDT
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Sorry, it was a generalization compared to what free states have in the US. Yeah, you're free. Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:53:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tenex Biathalon - Made for cold weather accuracy between 0 and -20C and a little more powerful to make sure the steel goes down: http://www.eley.co.uk/media_files/image/ammunition/tenex%20biathlon%20working%20cutout.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What .22 do they shoot? Reloads? Unquestioningly Eley Tennex Tenex Biathalon - Made for cold weather accuracy between 0 and -20C and a little more powerful to make sure the steel goes down: http://www.eley.co.uk/media_files/image/ammunition/tenex%20biathlon%20working%20cutout.jpg Any ammo with Eley Tenex on it is expensive as hell. Its really good stuff but at about $0.40 a shot its not plinking ammo! My .22 rifles shoot Wolf Match Target ammo just fine, but right now even that is made of unobtainium.  |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 12:56:15 PM EDT
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Any ammo with Eley Tenex on it is expensive as hell. Its really good stuff but at about $0.40 a shot its not plinking ammo! My .22 rifles shoot Wolf Match Target ammo just fine, but right now even that is made of unobtainium.
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What .22 do they shoot? Reloads? Unquestioningly Eley Tennex Tenex Biathalon - Made for cold weather accuracy between 0 and -20C and a little more powerful to make sure the steel goes down: http://www.eley.co.uk/media_files/image/ammunition/tenex%20biathlon%20working%20cutout.jpg Any ammo with Eley Tenex on it is expensive as hell. Its really good stuff but at about $0.40 a shot its not plinking ammo! My .22 rifles shoot Wolf Match Target ammo just fine, but right now even that is made of unobtainium.
years ago when I shot competitively the Russian .22 load was the cats ass and everyone bartered for it or paid $$$ to get their hands on it. I imagine the wolf match is that load. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 12:58:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/9/2014 5:06:06 PM EDT
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Yeah, you're free. Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sorry, it was a generalization compared to what free states have in the US. Yeah, you're free. Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. It's a relative thing. And I know temporary. Why sweat what is beyond my control? |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 5:51:55 PM EDT
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Letting them shoot .22 is da ghey Give them .308 and make it challenging. The original biathlons were done at 200 and 400 yards with military bolt guns with military ammo. They should have different categories. While I enjoy watching the current bi I would love watching it with service rifles and bigger calibers. No fancy rifles just run of the mill bolt action rifle or even semi if they want. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 9:11:32 PM EDT
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They should have different categories. While I enjoy watching the current bi I would love watching it with service rifles and bigger calibers. No fancy rifles just run of the mill bolt action rifle or even semi if they want. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Letting them shoot .22 is da ghey Give them .308 and make it challenging. The original biathlons were done at 200 and 400 yards with military bolt guns with military ammo. They should have different categories. While I enjoy watching the current bi I would love watching it with service rifles and bigger calibers. No fancy rifles just run of the mill bolt action rifle or even semi if they want. it started out with 6.5 swede its just not practical now, in terms of venues and courses, and centerfire rifles that accurate are much more expensive. .22 shooting is like go kart racing, fun to do, its about technique not gear, but not as fun to watch. Also, have you tried shooting small bore with a lightweight rifle? its hard enough with a slow heartrate, i cant imagine it with your heart racing. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 9:16:34 PM EDT
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its about technique not gear Were we watching the same biathlon? Those were some pretty tricked out rifles. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 9:24:59 PM EDT
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The US can't even get a decent summer biathlon matches going, although with the recent interest in extreme endurance racing maybe it has a chance. Tell me more of this. Pretty much biathlon except running vice skiing. Oh, and the rifles stay at the shooting range. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 10:10:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Were we watching the same biathlon? Those were some pretty tricked out rifles. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: its about technique not gear Were we watching the same biathlon? Those were some pretty tricked out rifles. They are pretty basic but everything is good quality. The butt is confusing as hell though. I couldn't shoulder my cousin's Anschutz without being super uncomfortable. The harness/sling is pretty cool but requires practice to use well. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 10:22:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/9/2014 10:32:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are pretty basic but everything is good quality. The butt is confusing as hell though. I couldn't shoulder my cousin's Anschutz without being super uncomfortable. The harness/sling is pretty cool but requires practice to use well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: its about technique not gear Were we watching the same biathlon? Those were some pretty tricked out rifles. They are pretty basic but everything is good quality. The butt is confusing as hell though. I couldn't shoulder my cousin's Anschutz without being super uncomfortable. The harness/sling is pretty cool but requires practice to use well. That would explain it. She's a twig. She could whip the harness on and off super fast, while I was all derrrrrrrrrrp when I tried. |
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