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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:52:09 PM EDT
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Oh! My bad! I guess you guys can't drive in the snow either! http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-pileup-indiana-20140124,0,5202718.story#axzz2rqWKuYU7 Probably caused from truckers who live in the south Delivering you're Wal Mart goods. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:52:52 PM EDT
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My favorite part of these threads is that people in the south think we don't get ice 
Almost as funny is they think salt does a goddamn thing at single digit and below temps. No, we know the ocean can freeze also and it has salt in it. 
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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:53:36 PM EDT
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When Sandy hit NJ and NY there were plenty of Southern people on here who made comments like "derp, it was a just a cat 1 derp, you yanks don't know how to take a cane." I myself tried in several posts to point out that while Sandy did only have Cat one winds at landfall it was still packing a storm surge indicative of a cat 4 or even a 5. It had a higher surge than Hurricane Charley in '04 which had 150 mph winds at landfall. These people had no concept of what "storm surge" means and they live in states prone to canes. I feel it is a failing of their public school system. As for driving in the snow, we have some people up here that put their mall cruising SUV's in ditches too. These are the ones who put their makeup on while texting and driving. They drive like shit in perfect weather and drive the same way in snow because they have a "4x4". I see them in ditches, with bewildered looks on their faces, while on their phones calling their husbands. It really is not hard to slow down and not drive like an idiot even if you have a "4x4". Sucks doesn't it? My apologies for the assholes. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:53:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's actually kind of cute watching that video. Southerners out taking video of something that is just day to day life up here in the north. That doesn't even look very slippery. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I guess all you yanks can drive on this (some one embed please). This is the Destin Bridge over Desin pass just a few hundred yards from the Gulf of Mexico. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaIVsWAQ7Nw Ive lived in the south and the north, originally from the south though. YOU CANT DRIVE ON ICE. Period. Another couple things come into play in the south besides the obvious. One, its pretty much impossible to find snow tires, hell its even hard to find all season tires around here. Most local tire shops only carry summer/performance tires for many wheel sizes. From experience, a summer tire SUCKS in the snow.  The other thing, with the big cities like Birmingham and Atlanta, no one was expecting this snow. Usually every one stays home if winter weather is in the forecast, but it wasnt this time. My dad lives in Birmingham and when he went to bed Monday night the local news said the weather would be well south of them. Well it wasnt and they got hit. When they got hit every one hit the roads at once. Atlanta traffic is a NIGHTMARE on a good day and that is with a three hour "rush hour" window. I cant imagine the absolute hell when a million+ people hit the road all at once in that weather.  Yes you can drive on ice. I drive on ice all the time in the winter. That video doesn't even look that bad compared to some of the shit I've seen. Ice road driving. <a href="http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/akcaribouhunter/media/P3170010.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x401/akcaribouhunter/P3170010.jpg</a> It's actually kind of cute watching that video. Southerners out taking video of something that is just day to day life up here in the north. That doesn't even look very slippery. The packed snow can be as slick as bare ice. But i have driven the river when no snow was on it. Doing 90mph on it is fun. Also imagine doing up to 60mph in a 80,000lb machine that has no real brakes. Just drop it on the ice or do a pirouette to stop. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:55:14 PM EDT
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Grow some balls and dig in for the ribbing OP. for Pete's Sake. Hope everyone is safe but stop sniveling about the asshattery.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:55:36 PM EDT
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Must have been a flat lander tourist. I lived in Boone for a while and never saw anyone driving with chains if they weren't tourists. They get 12+ fairly regularly and 2-3 feet at a time occasionally they keep the roads in decent shape most of the time. I drove an '84 Accord with all seasons and got around find. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I remember visiting Boone, NC one winter. They got an inch or so of light fluffy snow. No ice underneath or anything. Stuff we wouldn't even bat an eye at. Saw someone in a 4x4 chained up and trying to drive normal speeds . Bet they didn't have any fillings left after that trip .Must have been a flat lander tourist. I lived in Boone for a while and never saw anyone driving with chains if they weren't tourists. They get 12+ fairly regularly and 2-3 feet at a time occasionally they keep the roads in decent shape most of the time. I drove an '84 Accord with all seasons and got around find. Oh believe me I know all about the tourists in Boone. I actually lived there for a couple of years. IIRC they called them all Floridiots down there.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:56:14 PM EDT
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I thought the whole thing was overblown till I saw the piece Greta VanSustrin (sp) did on it tonight. Good Lord! Fail of epic proportions. That bunch around Atlanta should be ashamed. The fools would not even pull off to the sides of the roads. They just left their shitboxes in the middle of the road and left. 
Because they were out of gas. Yeah, they should have at least asked for help pushing their vehicles to the side of the road. This shit happens every time. Just doesn't happen often enough for us to learn from experience. I think the last time something like this really happened like this was '82. Most of the time, like in '11, it happens in the middle of the night when everyone is already at home and not at work. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:56:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looking forward to that! Going uphill on a 1/4" slick as snot sheet of ice with out sand or salt or brine or even a layer of crushed snow on it is pretty impressive! Ive been through ice storms, including the 2009 ice storm that ravaged KY and I still have yet to see any one be able to drive up hill, start from a stop or stop on smooth, untreated ice. And like you said and know, tires make a HUGE difference. You couldnt find snow tires for your miata and frankly would have a hard time finding all seasons stocked in a local small tire shop here either. A good tire will help but I still dont see how you could have stopped coming off that bridge if you suddenly had to such as at the stop light about 200 yards from the bottom. I just dont know how this southerner managed to live and drive in winter weather in north central KY for several years with out issue but couldnt drive last night. I mean proper tires, salt trucks and snow plows dont mean anything right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I guess all you yanks can drive on this (some one embed please). This is the Destin Bridge over Desin pass just a few hundred yards from the Gulf of Mexico. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaIVsWAQ7Nw Ive lived in the south and the north, originally from the south though. YOU CANT DRIVE ON ICE. Period. Another couple things come into play in the south besides the obvious. One, its pretty much impossible to find snow tires, hell its even hard to find all season tires around here. Most local tire shops only carry summer/performance tires for many wheel sizes. From experience, a summer tire SUCKS in the snow. The other thing, with the big cities like Birmingham and Atlanta, no one was expecting this snow. Usually every one stays home if winter weather is in the forecast, but it wasnt this time. My dad lives in Birmingham and when he went to bed Monday night the local news said the weather would be well south of them. Well it wasnt and they got hit. When they got hit every one hit the roads at once. Atlanta traffic is a NIGHTMARE on a good day and that is with a three hour "rush hour" window. I cant imagine the absolute hell when a million+ people hit the road all at once in that weather. Face it - you southerners suck at this shit. I'm not even going to cheat and use a 4x4 truck (even though I own one). I'm going to do it (live) in a gay-ass RWD convertible Miata. Seriously, you guys are pussies. That video ain't shit. Get some fucking tires.  Looking forward to that! Going uphill on a 1/4" slick as snot sheet of ice with out sand or salt or brine or even a layer of crushed snow on it is pretty impressive! Ive been through ice storms, including the 2009 ice storm that ravaged KY and I still have yet to see any one be able to drive up hill, start from a stop or stop on smooth, untreated ice. And like you said and know, tires make a HUGE difference. You couldnt find snow tires for your miata and frankly would have a hard time finding all seasons stocked in a local small tire shop here either. A good tire will help but I still dont see how you could have stopped coming off that bridge if you suddenly had to such as at the stop light about 200 yards from the bottom. I just dont know how this southerner managed to live and drive in winter weather in north central KY for several years with out issue but couldnt drive last night. I mean proper tires, salt trucks and snow plows dont mean anything right? <-- 107" average, annually. Bitches.  And yes I can and would find snow tires. And I'd do it down there in no-snow country, the same way that I do it up here - over the Internet. Already fitted on wheels and balanced. Try again.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:57:05 PM EDT
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This was about par for what the roads looked like for me going into work from rural central NC:
This is not "bad", mind you, but it would be ignorant to assume large, rural Southern counties would have anywhere near resources to compare to Northern municipalities. It's really silly to even compare. Many, if not most, secondary roads are not salted or scrapped until the day after in some cases. 1/2"-1"+ of packed snow on top of ice once or twice a year doesn't give ample time for some people here to acclimate. Kind of like how over half you pinko commies needed more than 1 term to figure out the President is a sham, but we don't sit and rail on that idiocy. Is it bad enough to not be able to drive on? No, rarely. But we have to live with horrible Northern tourist driving half the year, so I think it's irrelavent what we do in our own states down here. Now keep on blabbering about mongoloids in large urban cities who make the prime time news. Meanwhile: 
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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:58:43 PM EDT
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OP My wife just pulled into the driveway... She drove on a sheet of ice the entire way home, in her Mazdaspeed3.
Do you you want me to ask her to share some driving tips or something??
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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:59:10 PM EDT
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This is what I posted on FB earlier to all the fucking yankees laughing.
Their laughing their asses off at us....just like they always do. What they can't grasp with their little minds is that we experience snow and ice 2, maybe 3 days a year, every 5 years on average, while they deal with it months at a time every year. We don't have dedicated snow plows or sand trucks. We have dump trucks with spreaders that get attached at the last minute spreading a sand/salt mixture with all the salt dissolved from sitting out in the rain for 4 years. These assholes didn't learn to ride a bike without training wheels in 2 days but they laugh at us when we cant learn to drive in ice/snow in the same amount of time. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:59:31 PM EDT
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Oh believe me I know all about the tourists in Boone. I actually lives there for a couple of years. IIRC they called them all Floridiots down there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I remember visiting Boone, NC one winter. They got an inch or so of light fluffy snow. No ice underneath or anything. Stuff we wouldn't even bat an eye at. Saw someone in a 4x4 chained up and trying to drive normal speeds . Bet they didn't have any fillings left after that trip .Must have been a flat lander tourist. I lived in Boone for a while and never saw anyone driving with chains if they weren't tourists. They get 12+ fairly regularly and 2-3 feet at a time occasionally they keep the roads in decent shape most of the time. I drove an '84 Accord with all seasons and got around find. Oh believe me I know all about the tourists in Boone. I actually lives there for a couple of years. IIRC they called them all Floridiots down there. I wasn't necessarily picking on FL, even the people from the flat parts of NC/SC had trouble there. Luckily it was mostly on weekends when I didn't have to be out near the ski resorts. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:59:49 PM EDT
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For many years I drove a fwd Honda with out snow tires year around in Upstate NY. I am extremely confident in saying you guys suck at driving.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:00:09 PM EDT
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Somebody takes shit on the Internet way too seriously. Actually no. It was the fact a co-worker from Indiana who use to talk crap about this issue finally admitted it's different down here...as we went and picked his wife up from off the side of the road in my 4x4 Chevy 2500 because he couldn't get there in his Honda CRX with AWD. It was a shitty experience but we got her and got her home. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:01:18 PM EDT
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Because they were out of gas. Yeah, they should have at least asked for help pushing their vehicles to the side of the road. This shit happens every time. Just doesn't happen often enough for us to learn from experience. I think the last time something like this really happened like this was '82. Most of the time, like in '11, it happens in the middle of the night when everyone is already at home and not at work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I thought the whole thing was overblown till I saw the piece Greta VanSustrin (sp) did on it tonight. Good Lord! Fail of epic proportions. That bunch around Atlanta should be ashamed. The fools would not even pull off to the sides of the roads. They just left their shitboxes in the middle of the road and left.
Because they were out of gas. Yeah, they should have at least asked for help pushing their vehicles to the side of the road. This shit happens every time. Just doesn't happen often enough for us to learn from experience. I think the last time something like this really happened like this was '82. Most of the time, like in '11, it happens in the middle of the night when everyone is already at home and not at work. If they were stuck in traffic why did they let their engines run till they literally died in the lane? if you are running out of gas you know.....move over so you don't block other people. When sitting in stopped traffic you can also shut off your car. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:01:43 PM EDT
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Yeah, it's actually pretty bad says the man who learned to drive in the snow and grew up in WI. There are multiple problems here: A) Texans aren't used to the snow so if we get some there is a general freak out B) It's not snow we are driving on but rather a sheet of sheer ice. You know the stuff you scrape of the windshield when it sleets, the stuff that literal ices all of your doors completely shut so you have to damn near chisel them out of wrench open the door with gorilla strength? Yeah, we would have a quarter to half inch of that covering all our roads C) Traffic here is fucking awful from all the roads being filled to the brim with Yankees escaping Socialism for more Capitalistic states sp traffic already sucks. A lot of those cars I see off the road have NY plates D) Texans generally drive like shit and will crash at any given opportunity E) There is no infrastructure or experience here for inclimate weather, I suspect they use illegal aliens to shovel the salt on to the roads and bridges, but since they don't know what to do in shitty weather they put all the salt and sand on a single bridge here in S. Austin because it would be funny. There's at least a half inch thick layer of sand over a single bridge near where I live. Cliff Notes: Cold and Texas are a bad combination and all the Yankees coming here voting D can all suck a big AIDS filled dick. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You mad bra? We have an inch on our roads and it was -17 today. No problems driving around, you just need more practice I can't help but notice all the MIDWESTERNERS (aka FLAT Landers) talking about how easy it is to drive on ice and snow. Since I grew up in OH, as well as lived in MA, CT, PA, WI, MN, & IL as well as Finland and Sweden...I know how to drive in the snow and ice. What Atlanta has (especially north of ATL) are things called "hills". When ice gets on hills...the cars slide back down the hill if they do not have the traction I drove 15 hours in it yesterday...it sucked. It was the worse winter driving I have ever encountered due to the solid 1-2" of ice layer under the powder snow. Yeah, it's actually pretty bad says the man who learned to drive in the snow and grew up in WI. There are multiple problems here: A) Texans aren't used to the snow so if we get some there is a general freak out B) It's not snow we are driving on but rather a sheet of sheer ice. You know the stuff you scrape of the windshield when it sleets, the stuff that literal ices all of your doors completely shut so you have to damn near chisel them out of wrench open the door with gorilla strength? Yeah, we would have a quarter to half inch of that covering all our roads C) Traffic here is fucking awful from all the roads being filled to the brim with Yankees escaping Socialism for more Capitalistic states sp traffic already sucks. A lot of those cars I see off the road have NY plates D) Texans generally drive like shit and will crash at any given opportunity E) There is no infrastructure or experience here for inclimate weather, I suspect they use illegal aliens to shovel the salt on to the roads and bridges, but since they don't know what to do in shitty weather they put all the salt and sand on a single bridge here in S. Austin because it would be funny. There's at least a half inch thick layer of sand over a single bridge near where I live. Cliff Notes: Cold and Texas are a bad combination and all the Yankees coming here voting D can all suck a big AIDS filled dick.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:01:47 PM EDT
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Quoted: Going to paraphrase Neal Boortz here: First of all it is not snow. It may be snow at first but it normally ends up just being a slight layer of snow on ice or gets melted the next day due to temps above freezing and then freezes the next day. Sorry, 4 wheel drive will not help you on ice. Neither will "chains" which are not readily available down here. If you think I'm wrong feel free to come on down sometime and show us how it's done. Second, shut the hell up about not having enough snow plows and salt trucks. We don't get this weather often enough to justify the expense. Why don't you Yankees do what we do when we have these winter storms? When you guys have big storms like Hurricane Sandy we send our people up to help in the form of electric power trucks to help restore the electricity up there. Do we ever see any of your salt trucks or snow plows down here? No? Okay then shut up. Speaking of hurricanes, for the most part we are prepared for those down here because they happen often, just like the north is prepared for winter storms. Unlike Sandy, we didn't make fun of New Jersey for not being as prepared for the storm because they don't happen that often up there, we sent help. We have have a snow/ice storm, 1,000 of people stranded on the roads and what do I hear from Yankees? "I hate the South! You'se guys don't know how to drive in the snow. Just shut up. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:02:03 PM EDT
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You mad bra? We have an inch on our roads and it was -17 today. No problems driving around, you just need more practice Didn't get that part about where we don't really get a chance for much practice did you. Come on down! Show us how to do it! I'll be the one laughing when you spin out and end up in the ditch. It's ICE! I'll just drive the correct speed for the conditions. BINGO! |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:02:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This was about par for what the roads looked like for me going into work from rural central NC: http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/mudonthetires10/IMG_20140129_092221658_zps41513dda.jpg This is not "bad", mind you, but it would be ignorant to assume large, rural Southern counties would have anywhere near resources to compare to Northern municipalities. It's really silly to even compare. Many, if not most, secondary roads are not salted or scrapped until the day after in some cases. 1/2"-1"+ of packed snow on top of ice once or twice a year doesn't give ample time for some people here to acclimate. Kind of like how over half you pinko commies needed more than 1 term to figure out the President is a sham, but we don't sit and rail on that idiocy. Is it bad enough to not be able to drive on? No, rarely. But we have to live with horrible Northern tourist driving half the year, so I think it's irrelavent what we do in our own states down here. Now keeping blabbering about mongoloids in large urban cities who make the prime time news. Meanwhile: http://m.quickmeme.com/img/fd/fd243a1e4b97c7b4e5d1f26934cc87dd36da869de18e9d9e5fcc620aec3e61b4.jpg |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:03:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:03:21 PM EDT
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Seriously.... stay warm, don't die, but cut the damn butthurt. We hear all the time about how us "Yankees" are the worst people on Earth, so maybe take it on your end with a little bit of that Southern grace we hear about ad nauseam.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:03:38 PM EDT
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Quote History North Central Ky ain't shit. They don't even get snow, as far as I'm concerned.
<-- 107" average, annually. Bitches.
And yes I can and would find snow tires. And I'd do it down there in no-snow country, the same way that I do it up here - over the Internet. Already fitted on wheels and balanced. Try again.
Because people in Florida are going to order snow tires for an event that might happen two or three times in a LIFETIME?! 
Oh well all of the major bridges are shut down till tomorrow, then its going to warm back up and be 70 again by the weekend. Glad I left Kentucky and got back down south! 
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:03:39 PM EDT
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Thats not like the ice we had here. Been on those conditions MANY times. Its the ice thats smooth as glass that we had that will get ya. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess all you yanks can drive on this (some one embed please). This is the Destin Bridge over Desin pass just a few hundred yards from the Gulf of Mexico. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaIVsWAQ7Nw Ive lived in the south and the north, originally from the south though. YOU CANT DRIVE ON ICE. Period. Another couple things come into play in the south besides the obvious. One, its pretty much impossible to find snow tires, hell its even hard to find all season tires around here. Most local tire shops only carry summer/performance tires for many wheel sizes. From experience, a summer tire SUCKS in the snow.
The other thing, with the big cities like Birmingham and Atlanta, no one was expecting this snow. Usually every one stays home if winter weather is in the forecast, but it wasnt this time. My dad lives in Birmingham and when he went to bed Monday night the local news said the weather would be well south of them. Well it wasnt and they got hit. When they got hit every one hit the roads at once. Atlanta traffic is a NIGHTMARE on a good day and that is with a three hour "rush hour" window. I cant imagine the absolute hell when a million+ people hit the road all at once in that weather. Yes you can drive on ice. I drive on ice all the time in the winter. That video doesn't even look that bad compared to some of the shit I've seen. Ice road driving. <a href="http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/akcaribouhunter/media/P3170010.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x401/akcaribouhunter/P3170010.jpg</a> Thats not like the ice we had here. Been on those conditions MANY times. Its the ice thats smooth as glass that we had that will get ya. It's called black ice, and yes it's bad... |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:04:17 PM EDT
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Not only can't you drive in winter weather but even after 13 years here you can't hotlink?
Good edit. Now edit some snowchains on your ride. Got snow chains. Problem is half of the roads in my area now are clear dry pavement. The you go around the corner and find a sheet of ice in the curve. Chains don't last long on bare pavement. Did use them last night. Stopped and took them off and then stoop and put them back on twice just so I wouldn't break them on bare pavement and beat the shit out of my fender wells. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:04:18 PM EDT
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It's not that folks down south can't drive on ice, because no one can really. It's just how ridiculously out of hand the situation has gotten down there due to a tiny amount of snow. 
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:04:44 PM EDT
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Studded tires, winter tires, and/or chains get the job done, even on ICE! (ice, baby). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Come on down! Show us how to do it! I'll be the one laughing when you spin out and end up in the ditch. It's ICE! Studded tires, winter tires, and/or chains get the job done, even on ICE! (ice, baby). Studded tires are illegal down here. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:04:48 PM EDT
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Going to paraphrase Neal Boortz here: First of all it is not snow. It may be snow at first but it normally ends up just being a slight layer of snow on ice or gets melted the next day due to temps above freezing and then freezes the next day. Please do educate us about snow, because nothing like this has eeeeeeever happened where we live. I've been in plenty of snow and ice storms in the south - without fail, everyone loses their friggin' minds in conditions that shouldn't even make a good excuse for showing up 10 minutes late. It's not like this has never happened before - people KNOW that they don't know how to drive in ice and snow. The fact remains; if you can't drive fast enough to keep the roads clear either due to lack of experience or extreme conditions, STAY THE FUCK HOME. Clusterfucks like what happened in Atlanta were completely avoidable. Quoted:
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:05:16 PM EDT
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Oh believe me I know all about the tourists in Boone. I actually lived there for a couple of years. IIRC they called them all Floridiots down there. After going to App St long enough, you gain that perspective pretty quick. It'd be a nice little town...you get get somewhere in a decent time in if they weren't flower gazing out the windows at 10 under the speed limit. 
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:05:18 PM EDT
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Hey let us Yankees make fun all we want at least you got the last laugh.Your not paying ridiculous tolls for roads to be maintained. More oppressive laws to help guide you. Such as" clean the snow from the roof of your car" We also have huge salaries for people up here. Maybe a guy driving a truck for the City of New York is making 80K- $100K a year and lets not forget at least another $50K in overtime especially when it snows . OOOOO!!!! Doggie .we are living!!! When They retire, they also get 60% of that salary tax free from the state. I would rather not have the roads plowed and pay less for everything and be made fun for my driving in an occasional snow/storm like a dip shit .
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:05:24 PM EDT
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Good idea. Let's melt the ice http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/snow012914/s_s09_55994966.jpg How does that even happen? 18 years in Michigan. Ice never made my cars start on fire. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:05:40 PM EDT
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If I took away your snow tires, chains, plows and salt trucks, you'd probably do better than the average Southerner with 2 inches of ice on the roads and temps in the mid 20s, but you'd have problems. I don't have snow tires or chains or 4x4; our plows haven't hit the side streets for weeks. Snow melts during the day in the sun, then the temp drops to 10 below at night and it freezes into a solid sheet of ice. People up here drive on that shit all the time. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:07:18 PM EDT
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Salt, motherfucker! Do you spread it?! ahahahhahah YES! Terrific post! |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:08:48 PM EDT
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Yeah, we don't get ice up here. Never happens. Ever. It's a myth. There's no such thing as freezing rain up here. Nope. There's no such thing as salt melting all the snow, then having all of it freeze solid overnight, because salt doesn't work for shit below about 15F. No, you folks south of the Mason Dixon have special ice - it's more slick than ours, because...I don't know, SOUTHERN! Chemistry doesn't apply down there. Our ice? Well, our ice is more like Velcro, because the laws of physics and chemistry are suspended, above the Mason Dixon. So good fucking point, Neil Boortz, you God damned genius. Come on down and show us how you drive on a sheet of ice. I'll put you up at my place, feed you, pay for your gas down and back up and even come pull you out of the ditch after the roads clear up. Point is, we don't prepare for this because it doesn't happen often enough, thereby we don't get the experience, so I'll try and remember this offer I've made in the next 10-20 years. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:09:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: Going to paraphrase Neal Boortz here: First of all it is not snow. It may be snow at first but it normally ends up just being a slight layer of snow on ice or gets melted the next day due to temps above freezing and then freezes the next day. Sorry, 4 wheel drive will not help you on ice. Neither will "chains" which are not readily available down here. If you think I'm wrong feel free to come on down sometime and show us how it's done. Second, shut the hell up about not having enough snow plows and salt trucks. We don't get this weather often enough to justify the expense. Why don't you Yankees do what we do when we have these winter storms? When you guys have big storms like Hurricane Sandy we send our people up to help in the form of electric power trucks to help restore the electricity up there. Do we ever see any of your salt trucks or snow plows down here? No? Okay then shut up. Speaking of hurricanes, for the most part we are prepared for those down here because they happen often, just like the north is prepared for winter storms. Unlike Sandy, we didn't make fun of New Jersey for not being as prepared for the storm because they don't happen that often up there, we sent help. We have have a snow/ice storm, 1,000 of people stranded on the roads and what do I hear from Yankees? "I hate the South! You'se guys don't know how to drive in the snow. Just shut up.  |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:09:58 PM EDT
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How does that even happen? 18 years in Michigan. Ice never made my cars start on fire. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good idea. Let's melt the ice [url= How does that even happen? 18 years in Michigan. Ice never made my cars start on fire. I saw an old timer, real old timer burn his Town Car up on ice. He got stuck and rocked it like a wild man, flooring it every time he hit the gas. The exhaust manifolds got so hot that the plastic inner fenders caught on fire and burned the car down. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:10:12 PM EDT
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no place is "prepared" for hurricanes, so that's a moronic argument Only a Florida Gator would make a statement like that. Been through way too many hurricanes and typhoons in Asia to let that one slide by. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:10:51 PM EDT
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Please do educate us about snow, because nothing like this has eeeeeeever happened where we live. I've been in plenty of snow and ice storms in the south - without fail, everyone loses their friggin' minds in conditions that shouldn't even make a good excuse for showing up 10 minutes late. The fact remains; if you can't drive fast enough to keep the roads clear either due to lack of experience or extreme conditions, STAY THE FUCK HOME. Clusterfucks like what happened in Atlanta were completely avoidable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Going to paraphrase Neal Boortz here: First of all it is not snow. It may be snow at first but it normally ends up just being a slight layer of snow on ice or gets melted the next day due to temps above freezing and then freezes the next day. Please do educate us about snow, because nothing like this has eeeeeeever happened where we live. I've been in plenty of snow and ice storms in the south - without fail, everyone loses their friggin' minds in conditions that shouldn't even make a good excuse for showing up 10 minutes late. The fact remains; if you can't drive fast enough to keep the roads clear either due to lack of experience or extreme conditions, STAY THE FUCK HOME. Clusterfucks like what happened in Atlanta were completely avoidable. It snows in Somalia? Also, do you know the context if what happened in Atlanta? |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:11:05 PM EDT
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Studded tires are illegal down here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Come on down! Show us how to do it! I'll be the one laughing when you spin out and end up in the ditch. It's ICE! Studded tires, winter tires, and/or chains get the job done, even on ICE! (ice, baby). Studded tires are illegal down here. They are illegal here too. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:11:16 PM EDT
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For many years I drove a fwd Honda with out snow tires year around in Upstate NY. I am extremely confident in saying you guys suck at driving. Yeah, snow tires are great. No one has them for an event that happens every 5 to 10 years. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:11:25 PM EDT
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This was about par for what the roads looked like for me going into work from rural central NC: http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/mudonthetires10/IMG_20140129_092221658_zps41513dda.jpg This is not "bad", mind you, but it would be ignorant to assume large, rural Southern counties would have anywhere near resources to compare to Northern municipalities. It's really silly to even compare. Many, if not most, secondary roads are not salted or scrapped until the day after in some cases. 1/2"-1"+ of packed snow on top of ice once or twice a year doesn't give ample time for some people here to acclimate. Kind of like how over half you pinko commies needed more than 1 term to figure out the President is a sham, but we don't sit and rail on that idiocy. That looks like our side streets do all winter. Do southerners think that snowplows hit every street, or that when they do they scrape it bare?
Packed snow on top of ice, or just plain ice, is par for the course on MOST northern streets. The freeways, highways, county roads, and main roads get plowed and salted. You average street though won't get plowed or salted at all for weeks at a time. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:12:22 PM EDT
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Come on down and show us how you drive on a sheet of ice. I'll put you up at my place, feed you, pay for your gas down and back up and even come pull you out of the ditch after the roads clear up. Point is, we don't prepare for this because it doesn't happen often enough, thereby we don't get the experience, so I'll try and remember this offer I've made in the next 10-20 years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, we don't get ice up here. Never happens. Ever. It's a myth. There's no such thing as freezing rain up here. Nope. There's no such thing as salt melting all the snow, then having all of it freeze solid overnight, because salt doesn't work for shit below about 15F. No, you folks south of the Mason Dixon have special ice - it's more slick than ours, because...I don't know, SOUTHERN! Chemistry doesn't apply down there. Our ice? Well, our ice is more like Velcro, because the laws of physics and chemistry are suspended, above the Mason Dixon. So good fucking point, Neil Boortz, you God damned genius. Come on down and show us how you drive on a sheet of ice. I'll put you up at my place, feed you, pay for your gas down and back up and even come pull you out of the ditch after the roads clear up. Point is, we don't prepare for this because it doesn't happen often enough, thereby we don't get the experience, so I'll try and remember this offer I've made in the next 10-20 years. would him posting vid of driving on a sheet of ice in OH suffice? |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:14:42 PM EDT
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Honestly? The snow-covered pic you posted, is my street. On a normal day. That's not enough to plow, so they don't. Shit costs money. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This was about par for what the roads looked like for me going into work from rural central NC: http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/mudonthetires10/IMG_20140129_092221658_zps41513dda.jpg This is not "bad", mind you, but it would be ignorant to assume large, rural Southern counties would have anywhere near resources to compare to Northern municipalities. It's really silly to even compare. Many, if not most, secondary roads are not salted or scrapped until the day after in some cases. 1/2"-1"+ of packed snow on top of ice once or twice a year doesn't give ample time for some people here to acclimate. Kind of like how over half you pinko commies needed more than 1 term to figure out the President is a sham, but we don't sit and rail on that idiocy. Is it bad enough to not be able to drive on? No, rarely. But we have to live with horrible Northern tourist driving half the year, so I think it's irrelavent what we do in our own states down here. Now keeping blabbering about mongoloids in large urban cities who make the prime time news. Meanwhile: http://m.quickmeme.com/img/fd/fd243a1e4b97c7b4e5d1f26934cc87dd36da869de18e9d9e5fcc620aec3e61b4.jpg Exactly. "On a normal day". As in you drive on it constantly. I'm sorry the simpletons of Charlotte, Atlanta, Birmingham, etc., aren't as well versed. Not to mention, there's a difference in climates. You can have plenty of snow and stay at 25° for a week and it's all fine. Not how it works down here. It was 62° the day before it snowed here. Our biggest problem is when a moderate to large snow occurs with low nighttime temps and slightly above freezing day time temps. Melt, freeze under snow. Get packed. Repeat. Doesn't help most folks. But I've never had trouble in snow in my life, so I'm only going to defend those not present to defend themselves for a short period before I find something better to do.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:15:09 PM EDT
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would him posting vid of driving on a sheet of ice in OH suffice? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, we don't get ice up here. Never happens. Ever. It's a myth. There's no such thing as freezing rain up here. Nope. There's no such thing as salt melting all the snow, then having all of it freeze solid overnight, because salt doesn't work for shit below about 15F. No, you folks south of the Mason Dixon have special ice - it's more slick than ours, because...I don't know, SOUTHERN! Chemistry doesn't apply down there. Our ice? Well, our ice is more like Velcro, because the laws of physics and chemistry are suspended, above the Mason Dixon. So good fucking point, Neil Boortz, you God damned genius. Come on down and show us how you drive on a sheet of ice. I'll put you up at my place, feed you, pay for your gas down and back up and even come pull you out of the ditch after the roads clear up. Point is, we don't prepare for this because it doesn't happen often enough, thereby we don't get the experience, so I'll try and remember this offer I've made in the next 10-20 years. would him posting vid of driving on a sheet of ice in OH suffice? But you don't get it. They have ICE down there. ICE.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:15:18 PM EDT
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Got snow chains. Problem is half of the roads in my area now are clear dry pavement. The you go around the corner and find a sheet of ice in the curve. Chains don't last long on bare pavement. Did use them last night. Stopped and took them off and then stoop and put them back on twice just so I wouldn't break them on bare pavement and beat the shit out of my fender wells. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not only can't you drive in winter weather but even after 13 years here you can't hotlink?
Good edit. Now edit some snowchains on your ride. Got snow chains. Problem is half of the roads in my area now are clear dry pavement. The you go around the corner and find a sheet of ice in the curve. Chains don't last long on bare pavement. Did use them last night. Stopped and took them off and then stoop and put them back on twice just so I wouldn't break them on bare pavement and beat the shit out of my fender wells. The mixed ice/dry pavement is an issue. I've had better luck with the steel cable type "chains'. Maybe not as much traction as the regular chains (though I've never had an issue) but much nicer on dry pavement. Get a set and put them in your trunk. I had to order mine about 15 ~ 16 years ago as no one carried them locally. I think I've had to break them out once over that period of time. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:15:28 PM EDT
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You guys still get all your auto stuff from brick and mortar auto stores? Is that the ONLY consumer product the public hasn't switched to internet sales sources when buying stuff for their cars? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Everytime you guys have a hurricane all I see is our power company trucks heading south by the hundreds. All it takes is common sense to drive in bad weather. Chains and 4 wheel drive don't work? Watch Ice Road Truckers sometime pal. Chains? Come on down and walk into a auto parts store and try and buy some. You can't. Know why? Cause there's not enough of a demand for them! This doesn't happen 3 months out of the year down here..it's more like a couple of days every 10 years. You guys still get all your auto stuff from brick and mortar auto stores? Is that the ONLY consumer product the public hasn't switched to internet sales sources when buying stuff for their cars? Even if you have chains, you don't want to use them. As soon as you start driving on the dry parts of the roads, I don't care if you even stay 20 mph or below, your going to break the chains and beat the shit out of your fender wells. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:15:40 PM EDT
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I love how people from the south brag about how warm it is during the winter, but then when winter comes they whine and complain about it just like everyone else.
4WD does help by the way. 
But decent "All Weather" tires are even better. Oh yeah and we get ice too, it's not unique to southern states. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:16:05 PM EDT
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I never have understood why southerners get so pissy about yankees calling out our poor cold-weather skills. This time of year, yankees always make fun of us for the almighty panic caused by fractions of an inch of snow.
In six months, we'll be shaking our heads as they drop like flies during a "heat wave" with temps reaching all the way up into the low 90s. Seasons, how do they work? |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:16:15 PM EDT
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Yeah, snow tires are great. No one has them for an event that happens every 5 to 10 years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For many years I drove a fwd Honda with out snow tires year around in Upstate NY. I am extremely confident in saying you guys suck at driving. Yeah, snow tires are great. No one has them for an event that happens every 5 to 10 years. 
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:16:32 PM EDT
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Ah! Shutup you southern er Dakotan!
Seriously though. The butthurt is funny to watch. I will say there is a lot of inexperience when it comes to driving on ice down south. For good reason. But it still is the damn drivers fault, should have used common sense and stayed home. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's fun, isn't it? Ah! Shutup you southern er Dakotan!
Seriously though. The butthurt is funny to watch. I will say there is a lot of inexperience when it comes to driving on ice down south. For good reason. But it still is the damn drivers fault, should have used common sense and stayed home. I'll agree. See my rant on my fellow Georgians for relying on the government indicator of closing schools. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:17:35 PM EDT
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Not to mention, there's a difference in climates. You can have plenty of snow and stay at 25° for a week and it's all fine. Not how it works down here. It was 62° the day before it snowed here. On Sunday it was 65 here. On Monday AM it snowed fairly heavily but only accumulated 4 in. due to winds. On monday night it was about 10 degrees. |
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