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Link Posted: 1/25/2014 10:09:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2014 10:10:23 AM EDT by Peachy_Carnahan]
Individually machined projectiles? That'll be expensive.

Another gimmick ammo.


ETA: EXTREME SHOCK!!!!! page ownage.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 10:17:58 AM EDT
This looks like a troll video from somebody like Dynamic Pie Concepts. Nobody without a completely Tapco-fucked or Magpul-fucked gun can take it seriously.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 10:20:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 3Trip:


If he wants a good avatar he should pay and get one from me.
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Originally Posted By savage_winchester:
Originally Posted By m1a1t1t2:
Im not a familiar or trying to advertise for any company. I just have never seen those before and thought they were interesting. If I would have said " look at these stupied shitty bullets that these people arr trying to make cool that obviously dont work well at all" then you guys wouldn't have accused me.


You've got to have pretty thick skin around here my friend.

Also. You should get this for your avatar.
http://i.imgur.com/nqFEc0c.gif


If he wants a good avatar he should pay and get one from me.


Inside joke.
I know the OP.
He's ok.

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Link Posted: 1/25/2014 10:21:41 AM EDT
I think these guys already have an energy drink out too.

Link Posted: 1/25/2014 10:29:06 AM EDT
I would like to see the 12 guage slug but that is only because i liked the now discontinued remington slug that had 4 pedals that would break off.

But as others have said, shedding the mass of an expanding projectile so that none of its parts properly penetrate isnt a great idea.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 10:41:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Low post count member promoting a sketchy product ........... Shocking!!!!!






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This shit has been blowing up on facebook since this morning. Gun and non gun folks have been posting it. I specifically checked in to find the inevitable thread on it here. I doubt the OP has any affiliation with this product.

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Link Posted: 1/25/2014 10:56:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NaCl:
I think these guys already have an energy drink out too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuNxHqwazs
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Not that one, this is it.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 10:59:35 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 11:00:37 AM EDT

Friendly voice: "...then, the 14 petals flower, harmlessly dispersing ambition into a spiral arrangement leaving only very small holes that the body's natural defenses seal off almost immediatly
The lightweight center post then slows rapidly and stops after leaving most of it's mass and kinetic energy behind on it's journey inside bellyfat.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 11:16:54 AM EDT
Countdown until they paint the boxes green and start selling it as zombie ammo............



Link Posted: 1/25/2014 11:34:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Countdown until they paint the boxes green and start selling it as zombie ammo............
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Probably will paint the copper flourescent green that glows in the dark.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 11:42:47 AM EDT
Maybe we could trade a ban on these for lifting the hughes amendment
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 12:01:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2014 12:01:52 PM EDT by LCPL4ever]
lol buddy just posted about this ammo stuff on facebook.

good video on wounding and shit

Link Posted: 1/25/2014 12:08:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bagofcrabs65:
Is Jesse Jackson going to come out and say it was made to kill black people?
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Any day now.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 12:45:51 PM EDT
A bullet designed to lose its mass on impact? That doesn't make any sense.

It would probably be leathal, after many hours and possibly nicking something casuing a slow bleedout. Immediate incapacitation seems unlikely, the main projectile loses too much mass to go further. Also "ripsaw effect" lol.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 12:46:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By C-4:


Is that real ballistic gelatin? It looks thinner. The pieces that break off have no penetration. The single piece that penetrates deeper doesn't expand. Explain to me why this round is better than 9mm FMJ? It has a smaller diameter than 9mm so will do even less damage than. 9mm FMJ. Pure gimmick and I would strongly recommend staying away from it.

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Originally Posted By C-4:
Originally Posted By m1a1t1t2:
http://thelibertydigest.com/2014/01/24/the-new-ammunition-that-has-gun-owners-drooling/


These things are pretty sweet.


Is that real ballistic gelatin? It looks thinner. The pieces that break off have no penetration. The single piece that penetrates deeper doesn't expand. Explain to me why this round is better than 9mm FMJ? It has a smaller diameter than 9mm so will do even less damage than. 9mm FMJ. Pure gimmick and I would strongly recommend staying away from it.

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This fine gentleman from the live free or die state speaks the truth. Different day, same exotic ammo snake oil sales pitch that we've heard before. Stick to the proven performers. (HST, Gold Dot, Ranger-T, etc)
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:41:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bludgeonmonkey:

You sure do seem to have this site figured out.

Pretty impressive for the join date.

Familiar?
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Originally Posted By Bludgeonmonkey:
Originally Posted By AMTguy:
Originally Posted By m1a1t1t2:
Am I missing something here ?


This site has a history of shills. Basically, people with low post counts making posts about gimmicky new gun stuff and asking for opinions all the while basically providing free advertisement for the new product. Typically, the person making the post is tied to the company in someway. Do a search for Anderson Manufacturing's AR15 "top of the line".

Cliffnotes: you're being (passive aggressively) accused of being a shill for Liberty Defense. We eat our own here. Sometimes it's justified. Mostly it's not.

FIFMyself

You sure do seem to have this site figured out.

Pretty impressive for the join date.

Familiar?

You're kidding right? I've bought 5 memberships in less than a year, utilized the EE, and might have got an Arfcomer a job at my company during my impressive year. However, I learned about the shilling when I googled Anderson XM-15 and found their shill posts here.

Arfcom isn't a fucking enigma. Just a few cool people thrown in to a pile of morons waiting for the next "OMGBBQ epiCness" to happen. But I digress, you're not even a member...
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:54:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By savage_winchester:


Inside joke.
I know the OP.
He's ok.

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Originally Posted By savage_winchester:
Originally Posted By 3Trip:
Originally Posted By savage_winchester:
Originally Posted By m1a1t1t2:
Im not a familiar or trying to advertise for any company. I just have never seen those before and thought they were interesting. If I would have said " look at these stupied shitty bullets that these people arr trying to make cool that obviously dont work well at all" then you guys wouldn't have accused me.


You've got to have pretty thick skin around here my friend.

Also. You should get this for your avatar.
http://i.imgur.com/nqFEc0c.gif


If he wants a good avatar he should pay and get one from me.


Inside joke.
I know the OP.
He's ok.

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Okay, didn't know the op was a lumber jack.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:59:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OiRogers:

Solid copper is fine. Solid brass is a no go as it would be AP.
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Originally Posted By OiRogers:
Originally Posted By sigp226:

Awesome gif!

Aren't solid copper handgun bullets a no-no?

Solid copper is fine. Solid brass is a no go as it would be AP.

Thanks, I confused my metals.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 2:42:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Powerkicker:
It sure leaves a nasty shallow wound.
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FIFY

speed
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 2:48:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AMTguy:


This site has a history of shills. Basically, people with low post counts making posts about gimmicky new gun stuff and asking for opinions all the while basically providing free advertisement for the new product. Typically, the person making the post is tied to the company in someway. Do a search for Anderson Manufacturing's AR15 "top of the line".

Cliffnotes: you're being (passive aggressively) accused of being a shill for Liberty Defense. We eat our own here. Sometimes it's justified. Mostly it's not.

FIFMyself
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Originally Posted By AMTguy:
Originally Posted By m1a1t1t2:
Am I missing something here ?


This site has a history of shills. Basically, people with low post counts making posts about gimmicky new gun stuff and asking for opinions all the while basically providing free advertisement for the new product. Typically, the person making the post is tied to the company in someway. Do a search for Anderson Manufacturing's AR15 "top of the line".

Cliffnotes: you're being (passive aggressively) accused of being a shill for Liberty Defense. We eat our own here. Sometimes it's justified. Mostly it's not.

FIFMyself


congrats you just beat out two planejane quotes for my sigline.
between these two I think I have a good description of GD

speed
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 2:58:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chris_C:
Saw the Dvor ad..lol, didn't even bother with the site.

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This.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 3:26:01 PM EDT
Someone needs to make a .gif of the "dancing gelatin" combined with Chunk from Goonies doing his dance.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 5:07:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By speedbuggy16v:


congrats you just beat out two planejane quotes for my sigline.
between these two I think I have a good description of GD

speed
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Originally Posted By speedbuggy16v:
Originally Posted By AMTguy:
Originally Posted By m1a1t1t2:
Am I missing something here ?


This site has a history of shills. Basically, people with low post counts making posts about gimmicky new gun stuff and asking for opinions all the while basically providing free advertisement for the new product. Typically, the person making the post is tied to the company in someway. Do a search for Anderson Manufacturing's AR15 "top of the line".

Cliffnotes: you're being (passive aggressively) accused of being a shill for Liberty Defense. We eat our own here. Sometimes it's justified. Mostly it's not.

FIFMyself


congrats you just beat out two planejane quotes for my sigline.
between these two I think I have a good description of GD

speed

Link Posted: 1/25/2014 5:50:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:


Actually its Clear Ballistic gel. its on par with calibrated ordnance gel. As for the bullet design its just a pin grabber mod to the old Lehigh subsonic. Nothing new..
http://www.lehighbullets.com/prodimages/308-500.jpg

BTW is there any of you that can do the cool operator voice and has the beard but no hair taciticool look to ya. I need a spokes model..
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Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
Originally Posted By C-4:
Originally Posted By EvilApplesauce:
Originally Posted By C-4:

Is that real ballistic gelatin? It looks thinner. The pieces that break off have no penetration. The single piece that penetrates deeper doesn't expand. Explain to me why this round is better than 9mm FMJ? It has a smaller diameter than 9mm so will do even less damage than. 9mm FMJ. Pure gimmick and I would strongly recommend staying away from it.

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this
from another thread

Originally Posted By Zhukov:
That looks more like Perma-Gel than calibrated BG to me...


<SNIP>


Thank you. So we don't even know if it reaches the 10 to 12" of recommended penetration in calibrated ballistic gelatin. Pass.


Actually its Clear Ballistic gel. its on par with calibrated ordnance gel. As for the bullet design its just a pin grabber mod to the old Lehigh subsonic. Nothing new..
http://www.lehighbullets.com/prodimages/308-500.jpg

BTW is there any of you that can do the cool operator voice and has the beard but no hair taciticool look to ya. I need a spokes model..


BRB, gotta go shave my head.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 5:52:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AMTguy:


This site has a history of shills. Basically, people with low post counts making posts about gimmicky new gun stuff and asking for opinions all the while basically providing free advertisement for the new product. Typically, the person making the post is tied to the company in someway. Do a search for Anderson Manufacturing's AR15 "top of the line".

Cliffnotes: you're being (passive aggressively) accused of being a shill for Liberty Defense. We eat our own here. Sometimes it's justified. Mostly it's not.

FIFMyself
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Originally Posted By AMTguy:
Originally Posted By m1a1t1t2:
Am I missing something here ?


This site has a history of shills. Basically, people with low post counts making posts about gimmicky new gun stuff and asking for opinions all the while basically providing free advertisement for the new product. Typically, the person making the post is tied to the company in someway. Do a search for Anderson Manufacturing's AR15 "top of the line".

Cliffnotes: you're being (passive aggressively) accused of being a shill for Liberty Defense. We eat our own here. Sometimes it's justified. Mostly it's not.

FIFMyself

holy shit


from a 13r? impressed!
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 6:03:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LCPL4ever:
lol buddy just posted about this ammo stuff on facebook.

good video on wounding and shit

http://youtu.be/tku8YI68-JA
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damn good vid..
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 6:16:19 PM EDT
These bullets are silly. Anyone taking these seriously should feel silly.

SILLY.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 6:35:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By uglygun:
I would like to see the 12 guage slug but that is only because i liked the now discontinued remington slug that had 4 pedals that would break off.

But as others have said, shedding the mass of an expanding projectile so that none of its parts properly penetrate isnt a great idea.
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Link Posted: 1/25/2014 11:54:13 PM EDT
Yeah I remember Black Rhino ammo
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 12:06:54 AM EDT
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Has anyone ever been convicted for using hollow points?
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 1:48:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Use_the_2nd:




Has anyone ever been convicted for using hollow points?
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Originally Posted By Use_the_2nd:
Originally Posted By joshdunn:
Seems like a prosecuting attorney's wet dream




Has anyone ever been convicted for using hollow points?

When someone picks up a gun and uses it against someone, they're already saying, 'I want the most lethal and affective means of stopping this threat possible." How would adding hollow points or magnum cartridges or fragmenting bullets change that intent?
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 2:42:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tolip:

When someone picks up a gun and uses it against someone, they're already saying, 'I want the most lethal and affective means of stopping this threat possible." How would adding hollow points or magnum cartridges or fragmenting bullets change that intent?
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Originally Posted By Tolip:
Originally Posted By Use_the_2nd:
Originally Posted By joshdunn:
Seems like a prosecuting attorney's wet dream




Has anyone ever been convicted for using hollow points?

When someone picks up a gun and uses it against someone, they're already saying, 'I want the most lethal and affective means of stopping this threat possible." How would adding hollow points or magnum cartridges or fragmenting bullets change that intent?

You're preaching to the choir. It doesn't, but some over zealous DAs will make that very case and some dipshit jurors will buy it. I NEVER drink when I carry for a lot of very good reasons, one them being, every homicide in MS goes to the Grand Jury. I don't want the fact that I had a 0.04 BAC and my judgement was impaired to be thrown out there.
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 8:10:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AgeOne:
A bullet designed to lose its mass on impact? That doesn't make any sense.

It would probably be leathal, after many hours and possibly nicking something casuing a slow bleedout. Immediate incapacitation seems unlikely, the main projectile loses too much mass to go further. Also "ripsaw effect" lol.
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Glazer. Magsafe.
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 9:02:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Buckshot556:
Wouldn't wanna get shot with that, that's for sure
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I wouldn't want to get shot with a pellet.
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 9:04:39 AM EDT
I think I will just stick to my Extreme Shock ammunition instead.
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I saw this shit being passed around on Facebook 2 days ago. Highly doubt the OP is a shill.
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 9:34:49 AM EDT
Crap what a new and innovative idea! Will they make them in 8 X 50r?



Link Posted: 1/26/2014 9:45:41 AM EDT
I would like a box just for the novelty factor. They're only making the round in 9mm.
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I would like a box just for the novelty factor. They're only making the round in 9mm.
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That's about the only utility it has.
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 12:04:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jimhoff:
Maybe we could trade a ban on these for lifting the hughes amendment
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Best response yet.
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 12:22:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:


Actually its Clear Ballistic gel. its on par with calibrated ordnance gel. As for the bullet design its just a pin grabber mod to the old Lehigh subsonic. Nothing new..
http://www.lehighbullets.com/prodimages/308-500.jpg

BTW is there any of you that can do the cool operator voice and has the beard but no hair taciticool look to ya. I need a spokes model..
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Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
Originally Posted By C-4:
Originally Posted By EvilApplesauce:
Originally Posted By C-4:

Is that real ballistic gelatin? It looks thinner. The pieces that break off have no penetration. The single piece that penetrates deeper doesn't expand. Explain to me why this round is better than 9mm FMJ? It has a smaller diameter than 9mm so will do even less damage than. 9mm FMJ. Pure gimmick and I would strongly recommend staying away from it.

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this
from another thread

Originally Posted By Zhukov:
That looks more like Perma-Gel than calibrated BG to me...


<SNIP>


Thank you. So we don't even know if it reaches the 10 to 12" of recommended penetration in calibrated ballistic gelatin. Pass.


Actually its Clear Ballistic gel. its on par with calibrated ordnance gel. As for the bullet design its just a pin grabber mod to the old Lehigh subsonic. Nothing new..
http://www.lehighbullets.com/prodimages/308-500.jpg

BTW is there any of you that can do the cool operator voice and has the beard but no hair taciticool look to ya. I need a spokes model..



I have a thick beard and am semi bald, does that qualify?
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Originally Posted By Fugitive:

You're preaching to the choir. It doesn't, but some over zealous DAs will make that very case and some dipshit jurors will buy it. I NEVER drink when I carry for a lot of very good reasons, one them being, every homicide in MS goes to the Grand Jury. I don't want the fact that I had a 0.04 BAC and my judgement was impaired to be thrown out there.
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Originally Posted By Fugitive:
Originally Posted By Tolip:
Originally Posted By Use_the_2nd:
Originally Posted By joshdunn:
Seems like a prosecuting attorney's wet dream




Has anyone ever been convicted for using hollow points?

When someone picks up a gun and uses it against someone, they're already saying, 'I want the most lethal and affective means of stopping this threat possible." How would adding hollow points or magnum cartridges or fragmenting bullets change that intent?

You're preaching to the choir. It doesn't, but some over zealous DAs will make that very case and some dipshit jurors will buy it. I NEVER drink when I carry for a lot of very good reasons, one them being, every homicide in MS goes to the Grand Jury. I don't want the fact that I had a 0.04 BAC and my judgement was impaired to be thrown out there.




Imagine if George Zimmerman used this shit. The chicks in that jury would have soaked it right up.
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