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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:15:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Nothing as sledge hammer wouldn't fix.
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:17:27 PM EDT
[#2]
I vote we tear down and raise Cthulu!!!
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:19:13 PM EDT
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Wrong thread dude. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Atheist = Leftist Wrong thread dude. 
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:19:35 PM EDT
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Good for them. Everyone has the right to be free. Even if it offensive to some. So if I tell them to "go to hell" they will consider that a compliment? They may well get what they wish for. |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:22:12 PM EDT
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Fuck all this asshattery, I'm down for Cthulhu. Nyarlathotep for prez, etc etc.
FBHO with a 500 foot long ropy tentacle encrusted with barnacles the size of cantaloupes |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:23:04 PM EDT
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So basically the satanists used the same standards and laws as the christians to get their respective monuments but it's only the satanists that are on a crusade?
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Good for them. Everyone has the right to be free. Even if it offensive to some. Not everyone agrees with that today.... 
Fuck PC and BHO!  Political correctness is the exact reason this is even an issue. Atheists are offended by the Christian monument, so either every religion can have one or no one can. Atheist = Leftist. If Atheists were against PC, they would simply not care about the monument. ETA: By going on this crusade against Christianity, the Atheists pretty much encourage multiculturalism, which is what is actively killing the West. So basically the satanists used the same standards and laws as the christians to get their respective monuments but it's only the satanists that are on a crusade?
Last I checked our founding fathers didn't draft a document that our nation was founded upon that had the phrase "One nation under satan" in it. Maybe you could point that out for me. |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:24:03 PM EDT
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Maybe they made a typo and they're "Santaists" and want a statue of Santa.
 
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:25:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:25:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:25:44 PM EDT
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Hail Satan |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:33:37 PM EDT
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For those wanting to play catch up. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1566311_Hindus__Satanists_seek_spot_next_to_Ten_Commandments__What_other_religions_get_to_be_denied_.html I'd just like it noted for the record that I totally called it on the Baphomet statue. 
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:35:59 PM EDT
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I'd just like it noted for the record that I totally called it on the Baphomet statue. http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4655/x3fh.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For those wanting to play catch up. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1566311_Hindus__Satanists_seek_spot_next_to_Ten_Commandments__What_other_religions_get_to_be_denied_.html I'd just like it noted for the record that I totally called it on the Baphomet statue. http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4655/x3fh.jpg How about a mohammed statue? |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:36:39 PM EDT
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Why is he pointing up?
Christians need not be offended. The Satanist could only raise enough funds to have one built that's 9 inches tall. |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:38:44 PM EDT
[#14]
"Oklahoma worships Satan" is the proper title.
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:39:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Awesome! Cool place to get a pic sitting in his lap  He seems like a nice devil. We already did this, the Hindus are in on it too
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:39:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIt's the two-fingered "peace" sign. To commemorate his Nobel Peace prize. |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:39:50 PM EDT
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One could argue that the Ten Commandments can be present at a courthouse as homage to their historical and cultural influence on the development of our legal system just like the pagan symbol of the goddess of justice with her scales is a homage to the historical and cultural influence that Rome had on our legal system. (I find it amusing that people go on and on about the Ten Commandments supporting Christianity but fail to realize or complain about a Roman pagan symbol.) However I fail to see the cultural and historical influence of Hinduism or new age Neo-Satanism on our legal traditions.
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:41:14 PM EDT
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Yeah. That'll happen in Oklahoma.
Idiots trying (successfully) to whip up the locals. Why not erect a pantheon and complete the Roman theme this country seems bent on following. |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:41:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does anyone have time for this shit, obviousy they don't work. Naw, they just sit around smoking dope all day; in their black satin robes chanting Emotep or something.
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:42:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is he pointing up? http://media.philly.com/images/010613_Satanic_monument_600.jpg Christians need not be offended. The Satanist could only raise enough funds to have one built that's 9 inches tall. |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:42:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:42:26 PM EDT
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Why is he pointing up? http://media.philly.com/images/010613_Satanic_monument_600.jpg Christians need not be offended. The Satanist could only raise enough funds to have one built that's 9 inches tall. "Smell my fingers"
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:42:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gay agenda, atheist agenda doesn't matter the libertarians will lap it up. Nah. This is silly attention whoring.
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:43:31 PM EDT
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Nah. This is silly attention whoring. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gay agenda, atheist agenda doesn't matter the libertarians will lap it up. Nah. This is silly attention whoring. But at least it's silly. |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:44:19 PM EDT
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Why is he pointing up? http://media.philly.com/images/010613_Satanic_monument_600.jpg Christians need not be offended. The Satanist could only raise enough funds to have one built that's 9 inches tall. ahem, duh 
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:48:02 PM EDT
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What would have been even better than this would be to not allow ANY religious statues outside of a public building, saving tons of money
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:49:46 PM EDT
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Satanists considering monument with interactive display for children
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:50:39 PM EDT
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Why is he pointing up? He's doing the Picard engage motion... |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:50:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One could argue that the Ten Commandments can be present at a courthouse as homage to their historical and cultural influence on the development of our legal system just like the pagan symbol of the goddess of justice with her scales is a homage to the historical and cultural influence that Rome had on our legal system. (I find it amusing that people go on and on about the Ten Commandments supporting Christianity but fail to realize or complain about a Roman pagan symbol.) However I fail to see the cultural and historical influence of Hinduism or new age Neo-Satanism on our legal traditions. Haven't we already done the 30% thing about the Ten Commandment(tm)s thing to death already? And remember, the 1st Amendment only applies to Christians anyways.  |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:50:57 PM EDT
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Satanists considering monument with interactive display for childrenhttp://abcnews.go.com/t/blogentry?id=21158579&from=related
It's just a Dora the Explorer video redubbed |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:52:25 PM EDT
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It's just a Dora the Explorer video redubbed Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Satanists considering monument with interactive display for childrenhttp://abcnews.go.com/t/blogentry?id=21158579&from=related
It's just a Dora the Explorer video redubbed Dora is twice as Satanic as Satan. |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:53:35 PM EDT
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Dora is twice as Satanic as Satan. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Satanists considering monument with interactive display for childrenhttp://abcnews.go.com/t/blogentry?id=21158579&from=related
It's just a Dora the Explorer video redubbed Dora is twice as Satanic as Satan. I tried to worship Her, I couldn't match her evil and went back to the Horned one. |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:54:19 PM EDT
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I tried to worship Her, I couldn't match her evil and went back to the Horned one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Satanists considering monument with interactive display for childrenhttp://abcnews.go.com/t/blogentry?id=21158579&from=related
It's just a Dora the Explorer video redubbed Dora is twice as Satanic as Satan. I tried to worship Her, I couldn't match her evil and went back to the Horned one. She is so fucking evil, my daughter started talking to me in illegal immigrant! |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:55:24 PM EDT
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Interesting, they copied a Texas monument that squeaked through the Supreme Court http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Orden_v._Perry
Different fact pattern though.
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:55:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/6/2014 5:55:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Last I checked our founding fathers didn't draft a document that our nation was founded upon that had the phrase "One nation under satan" in it. Maybe you could point that out for me. Poe's Law? Please? |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 6:01:39 PM EDT
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One could argue that the Ten Commandments can be present at a courthouse as homage to their historical and cultural influence on the development of our legal system just like the pagan symbol of the goddess of justice with her scales is a homage to the historical and cultural influence that Rome had on our legal system. (I find it amusing that people go on and on about the Ten Commandments supporting Christianity but fail to realize or complain about a Roman pagan symbol.) However I fail to see the cultural and historical influence of Hinduism or new age Neo-Satanism on our legal traditions. the only reason they want to put anything up is to piss people off. A person that simply doesn't believe in any deities, probably doesn't care one way or the other |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 6:02:53 PM EDT
[#38]
Chtulu would be awesome
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Posted: 1/6/2014 6:02:56 PM EDT
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Haven't we already done the 30% thing about the Ten Commandment(tm)s thing to death already? And remember, the 1st Amendment only applies to Christians anyways.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cz47dZShSQ
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One could argue that the Ten Commandments can be present at a courthouse as homage to their historical and cultural influence on the development of our legal system just like the pagan symbol of the goddess of justice with her scales is a homage to the historical and cultural influence that Rome had on our legal system. (I find it amusing that people go on and on about the Ten Commandments supporting Christianity but fail to realize or complain about a Roman pagan symbol.) However I fail to see the cultural and historical influence of Hinduism or new age Neo-Satanism on our legal traditions. Haven't we already done the 30% thing about the Ten Commandment(tm)s thing to death already? And remember, the 1st Amendment only applies to Christians anyways. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cz47dZShSQ
Meh. One could suggest that simply displaying the Ten Commandments does not endorse Christianity-- they are also part of the Jewish tradition. Many traditions went into the development of our laws: including Judeo-Christian concepts of the law, English Common Law, and the legal system of the pagan Romans. I don't see people demanding that Justice (Iusitia to the Romans and Dike (no laughing--not pronounced like you think) to the Greeks) as establishing the religion of Paganism. One must understand that simply having a statue does not a first amendment violation make. IMHO, having decorations or displays in the court that represent our development of our judicial system are neither endorsements of religion nor inappropriate in the context if where they are displayed. Yes, some of those displays may have religious connotations however, the facts are--even if some find those facts are upsetting--that religion did influence our system and lawgivers ( although I see that some people don't object to religion as much as a specific religion they dislike). If someone could demonstrate the historical and cultural influence of Hinduism and new age Neo-Satanism on our system of laws, I'd say the same thing about anything. Of course we could simply tear all the beautiful artwork out of all of our public buildings--no matter if they were placed there in 1800--just because someone objects to their potential religiousity. |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 6:04:38 PM EDT
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This is sacrilege! Satan should be portrayed as an angel, the morning star!
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Posted: 1/6/2014 6:06:07 PM EDT
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How precious.
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Posted: 1/6/2014 6:06:38 PM EDT
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I'm fine with it ONLY if tiny reproductions of all the monuments are sold in the gift shop.
That thing would look awesome on my desk next to Tom Servo and Butters. |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 6:07:21 PM EDT
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Statue of James Arness as the original Thing from another World for the Win !
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Posted: 1/6/2014 6:07:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh. One could suggest that simply displaying the Ten Commandments does not endorse Christianity-- they are also part of the Jewish tradition. Many traditions went into the development of our laws: including Judeo-Christian concepts of the law, English Common Law, and the legal system of the pagan Romans. I don't see people demanding that Justice (Iusitia to the Romans and Dike (no laughing--not pronounced like you think) to the Greeks) as establishing the religion of Paganism. One must understand that simply having a statue does not a first amendment violation make. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: One could argue that the Ten Commandments can be present at a courthouse as homage to their historical and cultural influence on the development of our legal system just like the pagan symbol of the goddess of justice with her scales is a homage to the historical and cultural influence that Rome had on our legal system. (I find it amusing that people go on and on about the Ten Commandments supporting Christianity but fail to realize or complain about a Roman pagan symbol.) However I fail to see the cultural and historical influence of Hinduism or new age Neo-Satanism on our legal traditions. Haven't we already done the 30% thing about the Ten Commandment(tm)s thing to death already? And remember, the 1st Amendment only applies to Christians anyways. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cz47dZShSQMeh. One could suggest that simply displaying the Ten Commandments does not endorse Christianity-- they are also part of the Jewish tradition. Many traditions went into the development of our laws: including Judeo-Christian concepts of the law, English Common Law, and the legal system of the pagan Romans. I don't see people demanding that Justice (Iusitia to the Romans and Dike (no laughing--not pronounced like you think) to the Greeks) as establishing the religion of Paganism. One must understand that simply having a statue does not a first amendment violation make. Agreed, but like with Kitzmiller v Dover it's the witness testimony that makes the case for it. It's entirely religious, they say it is, they insist it is, and they sell it that way. I'd be willing to grandfather some things if they'd be honest about it. |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 6:08:05 PM EDT
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In on this, fur shur.
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Posted: 1/6/2014 6:17:19 PM EDT
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Agreed, but like with Kitzmiller v Dover it's the witness testimony that makes the case for it. It's entirely religious, they say it is, they insist it is, and they sell it that way. I'd be willing to grandfather some things if they'd be honest about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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One could argue that the Ten Commandments can be present at a courthouse as homage to their historical and cultural influence on the development of our legal system just like the pagan symbol of the goddess of justice with her scales is a homage to the historical and cultural influence that Rome had on our legal system. (I find it amusing that people go on and on about the Ten Commandments supporting Christianity but fail to realize or complain about a Roman pagan symbol.) However I fail to see the cultural and historical influence of Hinduism or new age Neo-Satanism on our legal traditions. Haven't we already done the 30% thing about the Ten Commandment(tm)s thing to death already? And remember, the 1st Amendment only applies to Christians anyways. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cz47dZShSQ
Meh. One could suggest that simply displaying the Ten Commandments does not endorse Christianity-- they are also part of the Jewish tradition. Many traditions went into the development of our laws: including Judeo-Christian concepts of the law, English Common Law, and the legal system of the pagan Romans. I don't see people demanding that Justice (Iusitia to the Romans and Dike (no laughing--not pronounced like you think) to the Greeks) as establishing the religion of Paganism. One must understand that simply having a statue does not a first amendment violation make. Agreed, but like with Kitzmiller v Dover it's the witness testimony that makes the case for it. It's entirely religious, they say it is, they insist it is, and they sell it that way. I'd be willing to grandfather some things if they'd be honest about it. I've never been for grandfathering. Either something is lawful or acceptable or its not. If we are going to tear our religious symbology, then we should tear out all of it, even those 200 year old pieces of art. If it violates the first amendment, it violates the first amendment. If you concede that they have historical and cultural context, then you must except that newer examples also may serve historical and cultural purpose, not religious. |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 6:18:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never been for grandfathering. Either something is lawful or acceptable or its not. If we are going to tear our religious symbology, then we should tear out all of it, even those 200 year old pieces of art. If it violates the first amendment, it violates the first amendment. If you concede that they have historical and cultural context, then you must except that newer examples also may serve historical and cultural purpose, not religious. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: One could argue that the Ten Commandments can be present at a courthouse as homage to their historical and cultural influence on the development of our legal system just like the pagan symbol of the goddess of justice with her scales is a homage to the historical and cultural influence that Rome had on our legal system. (I find it amusing that people go on and on about the Ten Commandments supporting Christianity but fail to realize or complain about a Roman pagan symbol.) However I fail to see the cultural and historical influence of Hinduism or new age Neo-Satanism on our legal traditions. Haven't we already done the 30% thing about the Ten Commandment(tm)s thing to death already? And remember, the 1st Amendment only applies to Christians anyways. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cz47dZShSQMeh. One could suggest that simply displaying the Ten Commandments does not endorse Christianity-- they are also part of the Jewish tradition. Many traditions went into the development of our laws: including Judeo-Christian concepts of the law, English Common Law, and the legal system of the pagan Romans. I don't see people demanding that Justice (Iusitia to the Romans and Dike (no laughing--not pronounced like you think) to the Greeks) as establishing the religion of Paganism. One must understand that simply having a statue does not a first amendment violation make. Agreed, but like with Kitzmiller v Dover it's the witness testimony that makes the case for it. It's entirely religious, they say it is, they insist it is, and they sell it that way. I'd be willing to grandfather some things if they'd be honest about it. I've never been for grandfathering. Either something is lawful or acceptable or its not. If we are going to tear our religious symbology, then we should tear out all of it, even those 200 year old pieces of art. If it violates the first amendment, it violates the first amendment. If you concede that they have historical and cultural context, then you must except that newer examples also may serve historical and cultural purpose, not religious. I'm basing it on them saying it's religious. And let's get to tearing. |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 6:19:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/6/2014 6:34:52 PM EDT
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And let's get to tearing. Is destruction the answer? Why not tear down the 200 year old murals and statues throughout DC? We get back at Christians by destroying art? If suggest that destructive streak kind of implies that some people are more hateful and destructive they claim Christians to be. Meh, we get a long and I appreciate your friendship. I wasn't trying to start a fight, just present my case in a clear and logical manner. I'll wish you good night now. |
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Posted: 1/6/2014 6:35:08 PM EDT
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Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Galatians 6:7 KJV
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