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Link Posted: 1/6/2014 5:15:28 PM EDT
Nothing as sledge hammer wouldn't fix.
Link Posted: 1/6/2014 5:17:27 PM EDT
I vote we tear down and raise Cthulu!!!
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Originally Posted By JakeThePimp:


Wrong thread dude.
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Originally Posted By Erwaco:
Atheist = Leftist


Wrong thread dude.



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Originally Posted By NavyIS2:
Good for them. Everyone has the right to be free. Even if it offensive to some.
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So if I tell them to "go to hell" they will consider that a compliment? They may well get what they wish for.
Link Posted: 1/6/2014 5:22:12 PM EDT
Fuck all this asshattery, I'm down for Cthulhu. Nyarlathotep for prez, etc etc.

FBHO with a 500 foot long ropy tentacle encrusted with barnacles the size of cantaloupes
Link Posted: 1/6/2014 5:23:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 101_proof:

So basically the satanists used the same standards and laws as the christians to get their respective monuments but it's only the satanists that are on a crusade?



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Originally Posted By 101_proof:
Originally Posted By Erwaco:
Originally Posted By Jman78:
Originally Posted By NavyIS2:
Good for them. Everyone has the right to be free. Even if it offensive to some.



Not everyone agrees with that today....

Fuck PC and BHO!


Political correctness is the exact reason this is even an issue. Atheists are offended by the Christian monument, so either every religion can have one or no one can.

Atheist = Leftist. If Atheists were against PC, they would simply not care about the monument.


ETA: By going on this crusade against Christianity, the Atheists pretty much encourage multiculturalism, which is what is actively killing the West.

So basically the satanists used the same standards and laws as the christians to get their respective monuments but it's only the satanists that are on a crusade?





Last I checked our founding fathers didn't draft a document that our nation was founded upon that had the phrase "One nation under satan" in it.


Maybe you could point that out for me.

Link Posted: 1/6/2014 5:24:03 PM EDT
Maybe they made a typo and they're "Santaists" and want a statue of Santa.
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Hail Satan
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I'd just like it noted for the record that I totally called it on the Baphomet statue.

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Originally Posted By FlyWire55:


I'd just like it noted for the record that I totally called it on the Baphomet statue.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4655/x3fh.jpg
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Originally Posted By FlyWire55:


I'd just like it noted for the record that I totally called it on the Baphomet statue.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4655/x3fh.jpg


How about a mohammed statue?
Link Posted: 1/6/2014 5:36:39 PM EDT
Why is he pointing up?



Christians need not be offended. The Satanist could only raise enough funds to have one built that's 9 inches tall.
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
Why is he pointing up?

http://media.philly.com/images/010613_Satanic_monument_600.jpg

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It's the two-fingered "peace" sign. To commemorate his Nobel Peace prize.
Link Posted: 1/6/2014 5:39:50 PM EDT
One could argue that the Ten Commandments can be present at a courthouse as homage to their historical and cultural influence on the development of our legal system just like the pagan symbol of the goddess of justice with her scales is a homage to the historical and cultural influence that Rome had on our legal system. (I find it amusing that people go on and on about the Ten Commandments supporting Christianity but fail to realize or complain about a Roman pagan symbol.) However I fail to see the cultural and historical influence of Hinduism or new age Neo-Satanism on our legal traditions.
Link Posted: 1/6/2014 5:41:14 PM EDT
Yeah. That'll happen in Oklahoma.

Idiots trying (successfully) to whip up the locals.

Why not erect a pantheon and complete the Roman theme this country seems bent on following.

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Originally Posted By ElCoyote:
How does anyone have time for this shit, obviousy they don't work.
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Naw, they just sit around smoking dope all day; in their black satin robes chanting Emotep or something.
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
Why is he pointing up?

http://media.philly.com/images/010613_Satanic_monument_600.jpg

Christians need not be offended. The Satanist could only raise enough funds to have one built that's 9 inches tall.
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"Smell my fingers"
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Originally Posted By gonoles:
Gay agenda, atheist agenda doesn't matter the libertarians will lap it up.
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Nah. This is silly attention whoring.
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Originally Posted By BUCC_Guy:



Nah. This is silly attention whoring.
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Originally Posted By BUCC_Guy:
Originally Posted By gonoles:
Gay agenda, atheist agenda doesn't matter the libertarians will lap it up.



Nah. This is silly attention whoring.

But at least it's silly.
Link Posted: 1/6/2014 5:44:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
Why is he pointing up?

http://media.philly.com/images/010613_Satanic_monument_600.jpg

Christians need not be offended. The Satanist could only raise enough funds to have one built that's 9 inches tall.
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ahem, duh
Link Posted: 1/6/2014 5:48:02 PM EDT
What would have been even better than this would be to not allow ANY religious statues outside of a public building, saving tons of money
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
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He's doing the Picard engage motion...
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Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:

One could argue that the Ten Commandments can be present at a courthouse as homage to their historical and cultural influence on the development of our legal system just like the pagan symbol of the goddess of justice with her scales is a homage to the historical and cultural influence that Rome had on our legal system. (I find it amusing that people go on and on about the Ten Commandments supporting Christianity but fail to realize or complain about a Roman pagan symbol.) However I fail to see the cultural and historical influence of Hinduism or new age Neo-Satanism on our legal traditions.
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Haven't we already done the 30% thing about the Ten Commandment(tm)s thing to death already?

And remember, the 1st Amendment only applies to Christians anyways.


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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Satanists considering monument with interactive display for childrenhttp://abcnews.go.com/t/blogentry?id=21158579&from=related


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It's just a Dora the Explorer video redubbed
Link Posted: 1/6/2014 5:52:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RabidMonkeyPox:

It's just a Dora the Explorer video redubbed
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Originally Posted By RabidMonkeyPox:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Satanists considering monument with interactive display for childrenhttp://abcnews.go.com/t/blogentry?id=21158579&from=related



It's just a Dora the Explorer video redubbed

Dora is twice as Satanic as Satan.
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Originally Posted By BustinCaps:

Dora is twice as Satanic as Satan.
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Originally Posted By RabidMonkeyPox:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Satanists considering monument with interactive display for childrenhttp://abcnews.go.com/t/blogentry?id=21158579&from=related



It's just a Dora the Explorer video redubbed

Dora is twice as Satanic as Satan.

I tried to worship Her, I couldn't match her evil and went back to the Horned one.
Link Posted: 1/6/2014 5:54:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RabidMonkeyPox:

I tried to worship Her, I couldn't match her evil and went back to the Horned one.
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Originally Posted By RabidMonkeyPox:
Originally Posted By BustinCaps:
Originally Posted By RabidMonkeyPox:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Satanists considering monument with interactive display for childrenhttp://abcnews.go.com/t/blogentry?id=21158579&from=related



It's just a Dora the Explorer video redubbed

Dora is twice as Satanic as Satan.

I tried to worship Her, I couldn't match her evil and went back to the Horned one.

She is so fucking evil, my daughter started talking to me in illegal immigrant!
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Originally Posted By _DR:

Last I checked our founding fathers didn't draft a document that our nation was founded upon that had the phrase "One nation under satan" in it.


Maybe you could point that out for me.

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Poe's Law?

Please?
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Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:
One could argue that the Ten Commandments can be present at a courthouse as homage to their historical and cultural influence on the development of our legal system just like the pagan symbol of the goddess of justice with her scales is a homage to the historical and cultural influence that Rome had on our legal system. (I find it amusing that people go on and on about the Ten Commandments supporting Christianity but fail to realize or complain about a Roman pagan symbol.) However I fail to see the cultural and historical influence of Hinduism or new age Neo-Satanism on our legal traditions.
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the only reason they want to put anything up is to piss people off.
A person that simply doesn't believe in any deities, probably doesn't care one way or the other
Link Posted: 1/6/2014 6:02:53 PM EDT
Chtulu would be awesome
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Originally Posted By Troubl3shooter:

Haven't we already done the 30% thing about the Ten Commandment(tm)s thing to death already?

And remember, the 1st Amendment only applies to Christians anyways.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cz47dZShSQ
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Originally Posted By Troubl3shooter:
Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:

One could argue that the Ten Commandments can be present at a courthouse as homage to their historical and cultural influence on the development of our legal system just like the pagan symbol of the goddess of justice with her scales is a homage to the historical and cultural influence that Rome had on our legal system. (I find it amusing that people go on and on about the Ten Commandments supporting Christianity but fail to realize or complain about a Roman pagan symbol.) However I fail to see the cultural and historical influence of Hinduism or new age Neo-Satanism on our legal traditions.

Haven't we already done the 30% thing about the Ten Commandment(tm)s thing to death already?

And remember, the 1st Amendment only applies to Christians anyways.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cz47dZShSQ

Meh. One could suggest that simply displaying the Ten Commandments does not endorse Christianity-- they are also part of the Jewish tradition. Many traditions went into the development of our laws: including Judeo-Christian concepts of the law, English Common Law, and the legal system of the pagan Romans. I don't see people demanding that Justice (Iusitia to the Romans and Dike (no laughing--not pronounced like you think) to the Greeks) as establishing the religion of Paganism. One must understand that simply having a statue does not a first amendment violation make.

IMHO, having decorations or displays in the court that represent our development of our judicial system are neither endorsements of religion nor inappropriate in the context if where they are displayed. Yes, some of those displays may have religious connotations however, the facts are--even if some find those facts are upsetting--that religion did influence our system and lawgivers ( although I see that some people don't object to religion as much as a specific religion they dislike).

If someone could demonstrate the historical and cultural influence of Hinduism and new age Neo-Satanism on our system of laws, I'd say the same thing about anything. Of course we could simply tear all the beautiful artwork out of all of our public buildings--no matter if they were placed there in 1800--just because someone objects to their potential religiousity.
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This is sacrilege! Satan should be portrayed as an angel, the morning star!
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How precious.
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I'm fine with it ONLY if tiny reproductions of all the monuments are sold in the gift shop.

That thing would look awesome on my desk next to Tom Servo and Butters.
Link Posted: 1/6/2014 6:07:21 PM EDT
Statue of James Arness as the original Thing from another World for the Win !
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Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:

Meh. One could suggest that simply displaying the Ten Commandments does not endorse Christianity-- they are also part of the Jewish tradition. Many traditions went into the development of our laws: including Judeo-Christian concepts of the law, English Common Law, and the legal system of the pagan Romans. I don't see people demanding that Justice (Iusitia to the Romans and Dike (no laughing--not pronounced like you think) to the Greeks) as establishing the religion of Paganism. One must understand that simply having a statue does not a first amendment violation make.
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Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:
Originally Posted By Troubl3shooter:
Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:

One could argue that the Ten Commandments can be present at a courthouse as homage to their historical and cultural influence on the development of our legal system just like the pagan symbol of the goddess of justice with her scales is a homage to the historical and cultural influence that Rome had on our legal system. (I find it amusing that people go on and on about the Ten Commandments supporting Christianity but fail to realize or complain about a Roman pagan symbol.) However I fail to see the cultural and historical influence of Hinduism or new age Neo-Satanism on our legal traditions.

Haven't we already done the 30% thing about the Ten Commandment(tm)s thing to death already?

And remember, the 1st Amendment only applies to Christians anyways.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cz47dZShSQ

Meh. One could suggest that simply displaying the Ten Commandments does not endorse Christianity-- they are also part of the Jewish tradition. Many traditions went into the development of our laws: including Judeo-Christian concepts of the law, English Common Law, and the legal system of the pagan Romans. I don't see people demanding that Justice (Iusitia to the Romans and Dike (no laughing--not pronounced like you think) to the Greeks) as establishing the religion of Paganism. One must understand that simply having a statue does not a first amendment violation make.

Agreed, but like with Kitzmiller v Dover it's the witness testimony that makes the case for it.

It's entirely religious, they say it is, they insist it is, and they sell it that way.

I'd be willing to grandfather some things if they'd be honest about it.
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In on this, fur shur.
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Originally Posted By Troubl3shooter:

Agreed, but like with Kitzmiller v Dover it's the witness testimony that makes the case for it.

It's entirely religious, they say it is, they insist it is, and they sell it that way.

I'd be willing to grandfather some things if they'd be honest about it.
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Originally Posted By Troubl3shooter:
Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:
Originally Posted By Troubl3shooter:
Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:

One could argue that the Ten Commandments can be present at a courthouse as homage to their historical and cultural influence on the development of our legal system just like the pagan symbol of the goddess of justice with her scales is a homage to the historical and cultural influence that Rome had on our legal system. (I find it amusing that people go on and on about the Ten Commandments supporting Christianity but fail to realize or complain about a Roman pagan symbol.) However I fail to see the cultural and historical influence of Hinduism or new age Neo-Satanism on our legal traditions.

Haven't we already done the 30% thing about the Ten Commandment(tm)s thing to death already?

And remember, the 1st Amendment only applies to Christians anyways.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cz47dZShSQ

Meh. One could suggest that simply displaying the Ten Commandments does not endorse Christianity-- they are also part of the Jewish tradition. Many traditions went into the development of our laws: including Judeo-Christian concepts of the law, English Common Law, and the legal system of the pagan Romans. I don't see people demanding that Justice (Iusitia to the Romans and Dike (no laughing--not pronounced like you think) to the Greeks) as establishing the religion of Paganism. One must understand that simply having a statue does not a first amendment violation make.

Agreed, but like with Kitzmiller v Dover it's the witness testimony that makes the case for it.

It's entirely religious, they say it is, they insist it is, and they sell it that way.

I'd be willing to grandfather some things if they'd be honest about it.

I've never been for grandfathering. Either something is lawful or acceptable or its not. If we are going to tear our religious symbology, then we should tear out all of it, even those 200 year old pieces of art. If it violates the first amendment, it violates the first amendment. If you concede that they have historical and cultural context, then you must except that newer examples also may serve historical and cultural purpose, not religious.
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Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:

I've never been for grandfathering. Either something is lawful or acceptable or its not. If we are going to tear our religious symbology, then we should tear out all of it, even those 200 year old pieces of art. If it violates the first amendment, it violates the first amendment. If you concede that they have historical and cultural context, then you must except that newer examples also may serve historical and cultural purpose, not religious.
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Originally Posted By Troubl3shooter:
Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:
Originally Posted By Troubl3shooter:
Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:

One could argue that the Ten Commandments can be present at a courthouse as homage to their historical and cultural influence on the development of our legal system just like the pagan symbol of the goddess of justice with her scales is a homage to the historical and cultural influence that Rome had on our legal system. (I find it amusing that people go on and on about the Ten Commandments supporting Christianity but fail to realize or complain about a Roman pagan symbol.) However I fail to see the cultural and historical influence of Hinduism or new age Neo-Satanism on our legal traditions.

Haven't we already done the 30% thing about the Ten Commandment(tm)s thing to death already?

And remember, the 1st Amendment only applies to Christians anyways.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cz47dZShSQ

Meh. One could suggest that simply displaying the Ten Commandments does not endorse Christianity-- they are also part of the Jewish tradition. Many traditions went into the development of our laws: including Judeo-Christian concepts of the law, English Common Law, and the legal system of the pagan Romans. I don't see people demanding that Justice (Iusitia to the Romans and Dike (no laughing--not pronounced like you think) to the Greeks) as establishing the religion of Paganism. One must understand that simply having a statue does not a first amendment violation make.

Agreed, but like with Kitzmiller v Dover it's the witness testimony that makes the case for it.

It's entirely religious, they say it is, they insist it is, and they sell it that way.

I'd be willing to grandfather some things if they'd be honest about it.

I've never been for grandfathering. Either something is lawful or acceptable or its not. If we are going to tear our religious symbology, then we should tear out all of it, even those 200 year old pieces of art. If it violates the first amendment, it violates the first amendment. If you concede that they have historical and cultural context, then you must except that newer examples also may serve historical and cultural purpose, not religious.

I'm basing it on them saying it's religious.

And let's get to tearing.
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Is destruction the answer? Why not tear down the 200 year old murals and statues throughout DC? We get back at Christians by destroying art? If suggest that destructive streak kind of implies that some people are more hateful and destructive they claim Christians to be.

Meh, we get a long and I appreciate your friendship. I wasn't trying to start a fight, just present my case in a clear and logical manner. I'll wish you good night now.
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Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Galatians 6:7 KJV
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