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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:14:08 AM EDT
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Ferraris are soooooo slow on top speed that Enzo is rolling in his grave...
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:25:24 AM EDT
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What do they wait to sanction magnussen ?
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:27:15 AM EDT
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Unacceptable.
Magnussen has been permitted things out of this world |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:27:54 AM EDT
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Unacceptable. Magnussen has been permitted things out of this world At least it's entertaining. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:28:54 AM EDT
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Fuck you Charlie whiting.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:29:56 AM EDT
[#6]
Ricciardo hold on for the win!
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:30:15 AM EDT
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Unacceptable. Magnussen has been permitted things out of this world At least it's entertaining. Yeah, right.. But that was totally stupid and dangerous, and illegal |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:32:14 AM EDT
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Grats Ricardo!
Poor Ferrari got beat up bad last lap
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:34:04 AM EDT
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Great race. Ricciardo is always a good winner, Nico extends his WDC lead and Bottas get yet another podium.
I hope Massa brings a nice check to Williams, because he is nowhere. Alonso got hard fucked at the end. I think Kevin Mag is desperate to make a mark and keep his ride. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:34:22 AM EDT
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Grats Ricardo! Poor Ferrari got beat up bad last lap Yeah right.. Magnussen threw Alonso out of the track twice. Once at 300kmh on the straight line, and another time 3 corners later. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:34:33 AM EDT
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Lauda tells SkyF1 the HAM incident was totally Nico's fault.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:35:42 AM EDT
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Lauda tells SkyF1 the HAM incident was totally Nico's fault. It's clear |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:37:17 AM EDT
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Lauda tells SkyF1 the HAM incident was totally Nico's fault. It's clear NICO BEING BOOED! I thought those were reserved for Vettle? |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 10:42:59 AM EDT
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Rosberg attaches a bicycle handlebar streamer.
FYI Toto Wolff has called Nico's move "completely unacceptable." |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 11:32:03 AM EDT
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It's looking more like Nico's Monaco qualifying lap was a rather calculated move.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 12:22:53 PM EDT
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RIC & BOT continue to be the drivers impressing me the most overall this season. HAM & ALO as well, despite today's results.
In my opinion, Nico's move was stupid on lap 2 on his teammate or anyone for that matter. He wasn't close enough to making the pass to have a legitimate claim to the apex. That said, shit happens and I don't think it was intentional as it could have easily ended his day as well. Just stupid and i don't blame Lewis for being fucking pissed. Eta: Lewis handled himself really well in the post-race interview with Buxton. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 12:59:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's looking more like Nico's Monaco qualifying lap was a rather calculated move. I've talked to a lot of people, whom I would consider fairly impartial, and it was. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 1:05:42 PM EDT
[#18]
Great race!
Happy with the results! |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 1:42:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/24/2014 2:19:55 PM EDT
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Unacceptable. Magnussen has been permitted things out of this world Like David Hobbs said, Magnussen didn't do anything that Alonso hasn't done himself. I'm a big fan of both of them and enjoyed the back and forth. Magnussen got screwed with the penalty though, dropped him completely out of the points. It was cool to see Eddie Jordan stick up for Nico during the podium interviews. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 2:21:28 PM EDT
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Interesting bit of drama surrounding the incident between Rosberg and Hamilton. Rosberg may not have had the pass but Hamilton needs to stop running people off the track as his way of blocking passes. IMO, Rosberg is within the rules by not running off the track. The rules say you have got to give the other guy room to stay on the track. Guess Nico has just gotten tired of watching Lewis trying to and actually running him off the track. Not just Rosberg but any time he has someone racing with him at close quarters. Hamilton is pretty much his own worst enemy. The problem with being the guy who always slams the door on the guy who comes up along side is that eventually you encounter someone who's either tired of that kind of move or just doesn't play that game. Yes, its an effective racing move but it can and does back fire at times. This pretty much sums up the Rosberg vs Hamilton rivalry at this point.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 2:30:42 PM EDT
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Interesting bit of drama surrounding the incident between Rosberg and Hamilton. Rosberg may not have had the pass but Hamilton needs to stop running people off the track as his way of blocking passes. IMO, Rosberg is within the rules by not running off the track. The rules say you have got to give the other guy room to stay on the track. Guess Nico has just gotten tired of watching Lewis trying to and actually running him off the track. Not just Rosberg but any time he has someone racing with him at close quarters. Hamilton is pretty much his own worst enemy. The problem with being the guy who always slams the door on the guy who comes up along side is that eventually you encounter someone who's either tired of that kind of move or just doesn't play that game. Yes, its an effective racing move but it can and does back fire at times. This pretty much sums up the Rosberg vs Hamilton rivalry at this point. Exactly. I'm sure after everything that happened in Hungary, Nico thought back to Hamilton's last lap moves and figured 'Why should I lift anymore?' And who can blame him? As long as Hamilton can count on him lifting, there's no consequence to him driving like that. I agree with Eddie Jordan - the fault for this is on Mercedes management for letting this situation fester. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 2:32:07 PM EDT
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Unacceptable. Magnussen has been permitted things out of this world He ended up with a 20 second penalty, dropping him out of the points. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 2:47:05 PM EDT
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Nice to see the other teams come back out of the gate charging hard after the break. Renault seems to have been working hard at getting the engine sorted out. Looks like they still have a ways to go on horsepower though.
Ferrari just can't seem to catch a break. Staying on the grid to reset the car electronics seems to indicate they still don't have this engine working right. I can understand not wanting to go to the back of the grid or start from the pit lane but they really need to get their act together from top to bottom. Alonso probably would have been on the podium without that penalty. Kimi looks like something came together during the break. Nice to see him have a decent race for a change. Ricciardo is having an awesome year. He really had it right when he talked about not really having any pressure on him. He's certainly shown RBR made the right choice. Good race overall. Some real excitement. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 5:35:54 PM EDT
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Matchet was right in his comment about HAM asking about engine preservation: what is F1 turning into?
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Posted: 8/24/2014 6:50:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. I'm sure after everything that happened in Hungary, Nico thought back to Hamilton's last lap moves and figured 'Why should I lift anymore?' And who can blame him? As long as Hamilton can count on him lifting, there's no consequence to him driving like that. I agree with Eddie Jordan - the fault for this is on Mercedes management for letting this situation fester. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Interesting bit of drama surrounding the incident between Rosberg and Hamilton. Rosberg may not have had the pass but Hamilton needs to stop running people off the track as his way of blocking passes. IMO, Rosberg is within the rules by not running off the track. The rules say you have got to give the other guy room to stay on the track. Guess Nico has just gotten tired of watching Lewis trying to and actually running him off the track. Not just Rosberg but any time he has someone racing with him at close quarters. Hamilton is pretty much his own worst enemy. The problem with being the guy who always slams the door on the guy who comes up along side is that eventually you encounter someone who's either tired of that kind of move or just doesn't play that game. Yes, its an effective racing move but it can and does back fire at times. This pretty much sums up the Rosberg vs Hamilton rivalry at this point. Exactly. I'm sure after everything that happened in Hungary, Nico thought back to Hamilton's last lap moves and figured 'Why should I lift anymore?' And who can blame him? As long as Hamilton can count on him lifting, there's no consequence to him driving like that. I agree with Eddie Jordan - the fault for this is on Mercedes management for letting this situation fester. Toto is PISSED though, and damn, he scary. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 8:00:06 PM EDT
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"blah blah blah I hate Hamilton blah blah blah rookie driver in the way of veteran driver I like."
You guys are on repeat. 1) What Rosberg did was wrong, but I accept it as a racing incident and agree with no penalty. It sounds like Toto Wolff might have a team-based penalty in store for him. If I had my way I'd have Chilton drive at Mercedes and send Rosberg down to Marussia for a race...but it's not my call, and that would be too much fun for the powers that be in F1. 2) While I liked Magnussen's driving and defense I agree the move on the Kemmel Straight was against the rules. What I don't like is penalties handed down after the race. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 8:12:09 PM EDT
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1) What Rosberg did was wrong, but I accept it as a racing incident and agree with no penalty. It sounds like Toto Wolff might have a team-based penalty in store for him. If I had my way I'd have Chilton drive at Mercedes and send Rosberg down to Marussia for a race...but it's not my call, and that would be too much fun for the powers that be in F1. Whenever Hamilton has a competitive teammate he causes issues and whines about not always being first. He caused problems with Alonso which resulted in McLaren losing the WDC. Now he's doing the same thing to Mercedes. I wouldn't want him on my team. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 10:33:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "blah blah blah I hate Hamilton blah blah blah rookie driver in the way of veteran driver I like." You guys are on repeat. 1) What Rosberg did was wrong, but I accept it as a racing incident and agree with no penalty. It sounds like Toto Wolff might have a team-based penalty in store for him. If I had my way I'd have Chilton drive at Mercedes and send Rosberg down to Marussia for a race...but it's not my call, and that would be too much fun for the powers that be in F1. 2) While I liked Magnussen's driving and defense I agree the move on the Kemmel Straight was against the rules. What I don't like is penalties handed down after the race. How was it wrong for Rosberg to hold his line? Chopping across the front of someone trying to overtake and who's along side of him is one of Hamilton's trademark moves. Nico was giving Hamilton room by holding his line, Hamilton wasn't and didn't return the courtesy. The rules say you have to give the guy alongside a car width and not run him off the track. Looks like Nico finally got tired of it. He's had to jump on the brakes to avoid collisions with Hamilton in several races. There is a reason Hamilton has not repeated on the WDC or finished higher 4th since 2008. It hasn't all been the car either. In the long run it was just a racing incident. Monaco was kind of iffy, today was not. |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 4:46:52 AM EDT
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Looks like Nico was just tired of HAM's trademarked run people off the track move. After having it done to him in at least three races this year, I doubt I would have backed off too...
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Posted: 8/25/2014 6:50:14 AM EDT
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Alonso will start with a drive-through. Stupid mechanics. Easy there. We aren't all stupid.  Not having seen it yet, I will refrain from further comment.
And more often than not, it's a spacer problem that hurts a race. Yes, the space between the steering wheel and the seat.... |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 7:01:42 AM EDT
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Yeah right.. Magnussen threw Alonso out of the track twice. Once at 300kmh on the straight line, and another time 3 corners later. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Grats Ricardo! Poor Ferrari got beat up bad last lap Yeah right.. Magnussen threw Alonso out of the track twice. Once at 300kmh on the straight line, and another time 3 corners later. I didn't see anything a young Alonso would have done differently. You defend your line within the rules. Regardless of your feelings, the FIA and the stewards found no fault. That being said, I'm still catching up on the latest news, so maybe an after race (which is a fucking joke IMHO) stewards call came forth. |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 7:58:56 AM EDT
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How was it wrong for Rosberg to hold his line? Chopping across the front of someone trying to overtake and who's along side of him is one of Hamilton's trademark moves. Nico was giving Hamilton room by holding his line, Hamilton wasn't and didn't return the courtesy. The rules say you have to give the guy alongside a car width and not run him off the track. Looks like Nico finally got tired of it. He's had to jump on the brakes to avoid collisions with Hamilton in several races. There is a reason Hamilton has not repeated on the WDC or finished higher 4th since 2008. It hasn't all been the car either. In the long run it was just a racing incident. Monaco was kind of iffy, today was not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"blah blah blah I hate Hamilton blah blah blah rookie driver in the way of veteran driver I like." You guys are on repeat. 1) What Rosberg did was wrong, but I accept it as a racing incident and agree with no penalty. It sounds like Toto Wolff might have a team-based penalty in store for him. If I had my way I'd have Chilton drive at Mercedes and send Rosberg down to Marussia for a race...but it's not my call, and that would be too much fun for the powers that be in F1. 2) While I liked Magnussen's driving and defense I agree the move on the Kemmel Straight was against the rules. What I don't like is penalties handed down after the race. How was it wrong for Rosberg to hold his line? Chopping across the front of someone trying to overtake and who's along side of him is one of Hamilton's trademark moves. Nico was giving Hamilton room by holding his line, Hamilton wasn't and didn't return the courtesy. The rules say you have to give the guy alongside a car width and not run him off the track. Looks like Nico finally got tired of it. He's had to jump on the brakes to avoid collisions with Hamilton in several races. There is a reason Hamilton has not repeated on the WDC or finished higher 4th since 2008. It hasn't all been the car either. In the long run it was just a racing incident. Monaco was kind of iffy, today was not. Quoted:
Looks like Nico was just tired of HAM's trademarked run people off the track move. After having it done to him in at least three races this year, I doubt I would have backed off too... These people get it. Even Merc 'management' is backing down: When the media reports claiming Rosberg’s sensational confession began to emerge Toto Wolff clarified the situation, by saying, “Nico felt he needed to hold his line. He needed to make a point and for Lewis it was clearly not him who needed to be aware of Nico. They agreed to disagree in a very heated discussion among ourselves. “But it wasn’t deliberate crashing. This is nonsense.” |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 9:48:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Easy there. We aren't all stupid. Not having seen it yet, I will refrain from further comment. And more often than not, it's a spacer problem that hurts a race. Yes, the space between the steering wheel and the seat.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Alonso will start with a drive-through. Stupid mechanics. Easy there. We aren't all stupid. Not having seen it yet, I will refrain from further comment. And more often than not, it's a spacer problem that hurts a race. Yes, the space between the steering wheel and the seat.... I chalked it up as 'shit happens'. |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 1:39:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alonso's was a battery box issue, I'm guessing with the remote starter. Better to take the 5 second penalty, than be stuck on the grid and forced to start from the pit lane. I chalked it up as 'shit happens'. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Alonso will start with a drive-through. Stupid mechanics. Easy there. We aren't all stupid. Not having seen it yet, I will refrain from further comment. And more often than not, it's a spacer problem that hurts a race. Yes, the space between the steering wheel and the seat.... I chalked it up as 'shit happens'. |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 5:57:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: These people get it. Even Merc 'management' is backing down: When the media reports claiming Rosberg’s sensational confession began to emerge Toto Wolff clarified the situation, by saying, "Nico felt he needed to hold his line. He needed to make a point and for Lewis it was clearly not him who needed to be aware of Nico. They agreed to disagree in a very heated discussion among ourselves. "But it wasn’t deliberate crashing. This is nonsense.” I wouldn't call it a full backing down: At a briefing attended by this website, Wolff had earlier spelled out his anger that this accident had happened, calling it an "unacceptable level of risk” and saying that he felt "let down” by Rosberg initiating an incident, which had led to the team losing another win – the second win thrown away in the last three races – and implied that he would be sanctioning Rosberg for this breach of their agreement. "It cannot and will not happen again, " he said. Later in the article they claim it wasn't deliberate - basically calling it 'clumsy' driving, but it still sounds like Rosberg is gettimg called on the carpet. m |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 6:04:52 PM EDT
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I wouldn't call it a full backing down: Later in the article they claim it wasn't deliberate - basically calling it 'clumsy' driving, but it still sounds like Rosberg is gettimg called on the carpet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These people get it. Even Merc 'management' is backing down: When the media reports claiming Rosberg’s sensational confession began to emerge Toto Wolff clarified the situation, by saying, "Nico felt he needed to hold his line. He needed to make a point and for Lewis it was clearly not him who needed to be aware of Nico. They agreed to disagree in a very heated discussion among ourselves. "But it wasn’t deliberate crashing. This is nonsense.” I wouldn't call it a full backing down: At a briefing attended by this website, Wolff had earlier spelled out his anger that this accident had happened, calling it an "unacceptable level of risk” and saying that he felt "let down” by Rosberg initiating an incident, which had led to the team losing another win – the second win thrown away in the last three races – and implied that he would be sanctioning Rosberg for this breach of their agreement. "It cannot and will not happen again, " he said. Later in the article they claim it wasn't deliberate - basically calling it 'clumsy' driving, but it still sounds like Rosberg is gettimg called on the carpet. True, but they're clearly distancing themselves from Hamilton's characterization. Nico's account is pretty straightforward: Rosberg issued a statement following the meeting with Mercedes officials but did not make a reference to Hamilton's claims.
He said he "regretted that Lewis and myself touched" but felt it was "a racing incident". He added: "I was quicker at the time and there was an opportunity, so I gave it a go around the outside as the inside was blocked. "I didn't see any risk in overtaking, or trying to overtake, so why should I not try? The opportunity was there even without DRS because I was so much quicker, so I gave it a go. "Inside was not possible, so I tried around the outside. Should I have waited? That is very hypothetical. Who knows what happens afterwards? "The opportunity was there and, for me, it wasn't a risky situation." Nico's big problem is that he's been too nice for too long. He should have punted Hamilton on the last lap in Hungary (if not sooner). |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 6:48:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2014 7:15:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2014 7:25:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAt times those walls make it look like a street circuit. Seeing Spa then seeing this really demonstrates what a visual difference elevation changes can make. |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 7:31:08 PM EDT
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Great camera angle on the gif
lol...double turn into HAM Something like 200 (max) driver points and 344 (max) constructer points up for grabs....if only Ricciardo didn't get the DQ in AUS |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 7:35:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At times those walls make it look like a street circuit. Seeing Spa then seeing this really demonstrates what a visual difference elevation changes can make. Quote HistoryQuoted: At times those walls make it look like a street circuit. Seeing Spa then seeing this really demonstrates what a visual difference elevation changes can make. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:46:41 AM EDT
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"blah blah blah I hate Hamilton blah blah blah rookie driver in the way of veteran driver I like." You guys are on repeat. 1) What Rosberg did was wrong, but I accept it as a racing incident and agree with no penalty. It sounds like Toto Wolff might have a team-based penalty in store for him. If I had my way I'd have Chilton drive at Mercedes and send Rosberg down to Marussia for a race...but it's not my call, and that would be too much fun for the powers that be in F1. 2) While I liked Magnussen's driving and defense I agree the move on the Kemmel Straight was against the rules. What I don't like is penalties handed down after the race. How was it wrong for Rosberg to hold his line? Chopping across the front of someone trying to overtake and who's along side of him is one of Hamilton's trademark moves. Nico was giving Hamilton room by holding his line, Hamilton wasn't and didn't return the courtesy. The rules say you have to give the guy alongside a car width and not run him off the track. Looks like Nico finally got tired of it. He's had to jump on the brakes to avoid collisions with Hamilton in several races. There is a reason Hamilton has not repeated on the WDC or finished higher 4th since 2008. It hasn't all been the car either. In the long run it was just a racing incident. Monaco was kind of iffy, today was not. Quoted:
Looks like Nico was just tired of HAM's trademarked run people off the track move. After having it done to him in at least three races this year, I doubt I would have backed off too... These people get it. Even Merc 'management' is backing down: When the media reports claiming Rosberg’s sensational confession began to emerge Toto Wolff clarified the situation, by saying, “Nico felt he needed to hold his line. He needed to make a point and for Lewis it was clearly not him who needed to be aware of Nico. They agreed to disagree in a very heated discussion among ourselves. “But it wasn’t deliberate crashing. This is nonsense.” Anyone else think they had the "cut the bullshit or we decide who wins" talk that was mentioned a few pages back? |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:36:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone else think they had the "cut the bullshit or we decide who wins" talk that was mentioned a few pages back? They just need to be cleaner about how they race. Nico needs to find some confidence (and competence) with overtaking, and Lewis needs to lose his trademark 'slam the fucking door in their face so they hit me or go off track' move. Honestly, at this point, fuck Merc with their super fast car and mediocre talent.. You know how much fun this year would be if Merc wasn't there and Ricciardo/Vettel and Alonso/Kimi were fighting for the title? Also, Fuck Massa, he's ruining Williams chance of making a good showing of themselves after a lot of years of shit sandwiches.. put the Brazilian out to pasture already! |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:50:30 PM EDT
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I didn't see anything a young Alonso would have done differently. You defend your line within the rules. Regardless of your feelings, the FIA and the stewards found no fault. That being said, I'm still catching up on the latest news, so maybe an after race (which is a fucking joke IMHO) stewards call came forth. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Grats Ricardo! Poor Ferrari got beat up bad last lap Yeah right.. Magnussen threw Alonso out of the track twice. Once at 300kmh on the straight line, and another time 3 corners later. I didn't see anything a young Alonso would have done differently. You defend your line within the rules. Regardless of your feelings, the FIA and the stewards found no fault. That being said, I'm still catching up on the latest news, so maybe an after race (which is a fucking joke IMHO) stewards call came forth. And you are/were wrong. They did indeed find him at fault, especially for that move on the straight line, and how, in the laps before he changed line far too late before the corner... Apparently a bunch of Ferrari crew have received their letter of goodbyes. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:05:09 PM EDT
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Watched the race on Sunday, but was too busy to post in this thread until now.
I enjoyed the race. Personally, I think that Daniel and Fernando are the two best drivers on the track right now. If they were driving Mercs, they'd be smoking everyone out there. Daniel has really adapted to RBR's new car, and Alonzo is making up for the Ferrari's deficiencies pretty damn well. It was also very good to see Kimi up towards the front of the pack for a while. The wife and I still root for Seb and will continue to do so. It['s just taking him longer to adapt to the new car. I've seen this happen several times over the years with dominant racers who really tune their driving to a particular vehicle and then have to change. Regardless... I'm VERY happy any time non-factory Merc drivers can pull-off a 1st or 2nd place. When we were watching the race we were both hoping that Lewis and Nico would take each other out, and it was like Christmas to see it happen that way. If I have to pick one to win, then I'd take Nico every time. He certainly made it interesting for Daniel. Despite Merc's ridiculous constructor's points lead, at least Daniel is making for some interesting racing this season. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:09:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks like its going to be a very boring race. Foot to the floor except for two or three places. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:12:34 PM EDT
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Looks like its going to be a very boring race. Foot to the floor except for two or three places. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Looks like its going to be a very boring race. Foot to the floor except for two or three places. Reminds me of the course CART used to run in NJ back in the 90s. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:59:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2014 9:41:44 PM EDT
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It's Maldonado's fault. 
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