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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:00:44 PM EDT
This is from a brand new AR rifle sold by a well known vendor. The rifle appears fine in appearance with the exception of some cosmoline on a lot of parts. However, the bore looked dirty, so I pulled a few patches. The face of the bolt looks like the picture below. Does this look normal for a test-fired upper but other wise new upper?
This new AR produced these patches: 
This is the bolt face: 
Maybe I am the latest whiny bitch to post a new product gripe, but this seems a little excessive. Am I full of shit, or does this seem odd? UPDATE: Rifle will not shoot a recognizable group, photos of muzzle and crown in last post |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:02:18 PM EDT
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Looks more used than normal.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:03:02 PM EDT
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Looks ok to me. I am no expert though. Clean, lube, and shoot.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:03:59 PM EDT
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They just test-fired it.......many, many times. Youre welcome.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:05:00 PM EDT
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They just test-fired it.......many, many times. Youre welcome. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Didn't work right for the first 12 tests. 
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:06:09 PM EDT
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Looks like you got someone's return or a "demo"
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:06:23 PM EDT
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Vendor?
You buy this at the county fair or somethin? 
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:06:42 PM EDT
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Didn't work right for the first 12 tests. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They just test-fired it.......many, many times. Youre welcome. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Didn't work right for the first 12 tests. 100rds per test |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:06:43 PM EDT
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My colt 6721 was just like that and I thought it odd.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:08:24 PM EDT
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Didn't work right for the first 12 tests. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They just test-fired it.......many, many times. Youre welcome. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Didn't work right for the first 12 tests. Oh, and 2 more things; they did the test firing in full-auto and with Russian ammo. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:08:38 PM EDT
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were you planning on keeping it pristine and in the safe??
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:09:04 PM EDT
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Vendor? You buy this at the county fair or somethin? Find a good dictionary vendor and get back to me when you understand the post. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:10:01 PM EDT
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Oh, and 2 more things; they did the test firing in full-auto and with Russian ammo.
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They just test-fired it.......many, many times. Youre welcome. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Didn't work right for the first 12 tests. Oh, and 2 more things; they did the test firing in full-auto and with Russian ammo.
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile There are bits of red lacquer on the bolt face, so maybe. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:10:04 PM EDT
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I don't know what kind of copy rifle that is, but Colt fires 40rds. out of every rifle during QC, for example.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:10:56 PM EDT
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Find a good dictionary vendor and get back to me when you understand the post. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Vendor? You buy this at the county fair or somethin? Find a good dictionary vendor and get back to me when you understand the post. Engrish?
But jeeze lighten up Francis I was only kidding... |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:12:16 PM EDT
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That rifle has been more than "test" fired
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:13:14 PM EDT
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were you planning on keeping it pristine and in the safe?? Holy fucking shit. I know other guys have posted that in threads before, so you thought, "hey. maybe I'll post it here and look smart." Didn't work for you. I don't give a flying fuck how much I beat this thing to shit. Not one fuck. I'm not butt fuck crazy about it having zero flaws from the factory. However, I'd prefer not to buy a used gun and get someone's return or a lemon that failed test-fire and had to be tweaked 15 times until they said "fuck it" at shift change and sent it to me. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:14:04 PM EDT
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Find a good dictionary vendor and get back to me when you understand the post. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Vendor? You buy this at the county fair or somethin? Find a good dictionary vendor and get back to me when you understand the post. Thatescalatedquickly.gif |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:15:10 PM EDT
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I don't know what kind of copy rifle that is, but Colt fires 40rds. out of every rifle during QC, for example. This one isn't a Colt. I'm sure they don't shoot 40 rounds. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:16:05 PM EDT
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This one isn't a Colt. I'm sure they don't shoot 40 rounds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't know what kind of copy rifle that is, but Colt fires 40rds. out of every rifle during QC, for example. This one isn't a Colt. I'm sure they don't shoot 40 rounds. Well known brand? |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:16:05 PM EDT
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Vendor? You buy this at the county fair or somethin? Find a good dictionary vendor and get back to me when you understand the post. Thatescalatedquickly.gif I used to work on escalators for Montgomery. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:16:36 PM EDT
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Well known brand? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't know what kind of copy rifle that is, but Colt fires 40rds. out of every rifle during QC, for example. This one isn't a Colt. I'm sure they don't shoot 40 rounds. Well known brand? Here? Yes. On the street? Not so much. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:17:02 PM EDT
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were you planning on keeping it pristine and in the safe?? Thats besides the point, IMO. If I pay for something labeled as "brand new", I want it to be brand new, regardless of what it is or how much I fuck it up myself after buying it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:17:30 PM EDT
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I voted for Ron Paul because F the system.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:19:08 PM EDT
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Mine looks like that after about 350-400 rounds.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:19:12 PM EDT
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I voted for Ron Paul because F the system. He's a forgotten hero, the Ross Perot of our times. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:19:34 PM EDT
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Mine looks like that after about 350-400 rounds. Thats what I thought. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:21:15 PM EDT
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There are bits of red lacquer on the bolt face, so maybe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They just test-fired it.......many, many times. Youre welcome. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Didn't work right for the first 12 tests. Oh, and 2 more things; they did the test firing in full-auto and with Russian ammo.
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile There are bits of red lacquer on the bolt face, so maybe. Proof round? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:21:55 PM EDT
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Quick carbine class and into the ups box it goes
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:22:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats besides the point, IMO. If I pay for something labeled as "brand new", I want it to be brand new, regardless of what is or how much I fuck it up myself after buying it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: were you planning on keeping it pristine and in the safe?? Thats besides the point, IMO. If I pay for something labeled as "brand new", I want it to be brand new, regardless of what is or how much I fuck it up myself after buying it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm gonna give a +1 to this one. If I paid brand new top dollar for a rifle that looks like it was new 500rds ago, I would be asking for a newer replacement. As for functionality, IIRC, if the bolt hasn't migrated between uppers, I don't think it will be a problem. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:23:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quick carbine class and into the ups box it goes S'what I'm guessing, lol. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:25:04 PM EDT
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Throw it down the drive way and the outside will match the inside
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:27:06 PM EDT
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What's the big deal about naming the vendor?
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:29:54 PM EDT
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What's the big deal about naming the vendor? Because I don't want to fuck with them without a good reason. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:30:42 PM EDT
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I'm gonna give a +1 to this one. If I paid brand new top dollar for a rifle that looks like it was new 500rds ago, I would be asking for a newer replacement. As for functionality, IIRC, if the bolt hasn't migrated between uppers, I don't think it will be a problem. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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were you planning on keeping it pristine and in the safe?? Thats besides the point, IMO. If I pay for something labeled as "brand new", I want it to be brand new, regardless of what is or how much I fuck it up myself after buying it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm gonna give a +1 to this one. If I paid brand new top dollar for a rifle that looks like it was new 500rds ago, I would be asking for a newer replacement. As for functionality, IIRC, if the bolt hasn't migrated between uppers, I don't think it will be a problem. It was brand-new, but nor exactly top dollar. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:30:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy fucking shit. I know other guys have posted that in threads before, so you thought, "hey. maybe I'll post it here and look smart." Didn't work for you. I don't give a flying fuck how much I beat this thing to shit. Not one fuck. I'm not butt fuck crazy about it having zero flaws from the factory. However, I'd prefer not to buy a used gun and get someone's return or a lemon that failed test-fire and had to be tweaked 15 times until they said "fuck it" at shift change and sent it to me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: were you planning on keeping it pristine and in the safe?? Holy fucking shit. I know other guys have posted that in threads before, so you thought, "hey. maybe I'll post it here and look smart." Didn't work for you. I don't give a flying fuck how much I beat this thing to shit. Not one fuck. I'm not butt fuck crazy about it having zero flaws from the factory. However, I'd prefer not to buy a used gun and get someone's return or a lemon that failed test-fire and had to be tweaked 15 times until they said "fuck it" at shift change and sent it to me. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:31:50 PM EDT
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$20 says its a PSA Black Friday special.
Amirite? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:32:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the big deal about naming the vendor? |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:32:55 PM EDT
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Looks more used than normal. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Me too. What does the bolt look like when it is clean? |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:33:34 PM EDT
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Lighten the fuck up Francis. That looks totally normal. Is it a BCM? 20 or 30 rounds of shitty cheap test ammo will do that. Maybe try a little solvent in the bore instead of dry fucking patches. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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were you planning on keeping it pristine and in the safe?? Holy fucking shit. I know other guys have posted that in threads before, so you thought, "hey. maybe I'll post it here and look smart." Didn't work for you. I don't give a flying fuck how much I beat this thing to shit. Not one fuck. I'm not butt fuck crazy about it having zero flaws from the factory. However, I'd prefer not to buy a used gun and get someone's return or a lemon that failed test-fire and had to be tweaked 15 times until they said "fuck it" at shift change and sent it to me. They weren't dry. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:35:27 PM EDT
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You should have posted this in AR tech instead of GD if you didn't want non-serious answers.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:35:51 PM EDT
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$20 says its a PSA Black Friday special. Amirite? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm going with this also |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:36:14 PM EDT
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this is now a name the vendor, whoever wins gets a free blow job by OP's mom, sister, or OP himself................
I'm going with BCM |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:36:52 PM EDT
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You should have posted this in AR tech instead of GD if you didn't want non-serious answers. I like a mixture. Gives the retarded kids a chance to post too. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:37:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because I don't want to fuck with them without a good reason. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's the big deal about naming the vendor? Because I don't want to fuck with them without a good reason. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:38:14 PM EDT
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this is now a name the vendor, whoever wins gets a free blow job by OP's mom, sister, or OP himself................
I'm going with BCM Its not a BJ, its a handjob and Michelle Obama will be doing the honors. Report the Whitehouse and let security know that you are there for the free handy. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:38:28 PM EDT
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There are bits of red lacquer on the bolt face, so maybe. Ive got a bunch of pmc x-tac that I'm sure has the red lacquer, so could be cheap korean ammo as well!
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:38:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was brand-new, but nor exactly top dollar. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: were you planning on keeping it pristine and in the safe?? Thats besides the point, IMO. If I pay for something labeled as "brand new", I want it to be brand new, regardless of what is or how much I fuck it up myself after buying it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm gonna give a +1 to this one. If I paid brand new top dollar for a rifle that looks like it was new 500rds ago, I would be asking for a newer replacement. As for functionality, IIRC, if the bolt hasn't migrated between uppers, I don't think it will be a problem. It was brand-new, but nor exactly top dollar. If they sold it to you as a brand-new rifle, I would ask to see if any of the others look like that, or if you just got one that the test guy really liked that day. As stated before, unless it has migrated between uppers (more specifically the barrel extensions) I don't think it will be much of a problem, especially at that low of a round count. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:39:59 PM EDT
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Did you message them and receive an answer before you posted this thread? If so, what was their answer? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's the big deal about naming the vendor? Because I don't want to fuck with them without a good reason. Reread the post... the question is basically, "Does this shit look normal to you?' I'm gonna shoot the motherfucker tomorrow either way. If it won't run right, I'll send it back. The next guy will really wonder how all that brass got on the bolt face. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:43:10 PM EDT
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Agree, looks awful dirty for just a normal test firing.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:43:45 PM EDT
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Dirty bore, no big deal, that bolt face....it looks like the rifle was used for a demo where at least a couple hundred rounds were fired, or maybe they set it aside for more than the usual testing. In that case I can't understand why they didn't clean it up when they got through.
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