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Posted: 12/11/2013 3:09:00 PM EDT
For some reason there is a vociferous denial of Mendela's membership in the SACP, and his beliefs in favor of communism, by the Reverend Al Sharpton. I guess he didn't get the memo and doesn't like to Google.
How to be a Good Communist Nelson Mandela wrote a paper in 2002. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nelson-mandela/9731522/Nelson-Mandela-proven-to-be-a-member-of-the-Communist-Party-after-decades-of-denial.html A British historian, Professor Stephen Ellis, has unearthed fresh evidence that during his early years as an activist, Mr Mandela did hold senior rank in the South African Communist Party, or SACP. He says Mr Mandela joined the SACP to enlist the help of the Communist superpowers for the ANC's campaign of armed resistance to white rule.
His book also provides fresh detail on how the ANC's military wing had bomb-making lessons from the IRA, and intelligence training from the East German Stasi, which it used to carry out brutal interrogations of suspected "spies" at secret prison camps. View Quote http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/africa/item/17128-south-african-communist-party-admits-mandela-s-leadership-role Shortly after the death of South African revolutionary Nelson Mandela, the South African Communist Party and the African National Congress both released official statements acknowledging what was already well-known among experts: “Comrade” Mandela was indeed a Communist Party leader who served on the Soviet-backed organization’s Central Committee. According to the Communist Party statement on Mandela’s passing, not only was the confessed terror leader a senior official on the South African Communist Party’s highest decision-making body, he was actually close to the outfit until his death.
View Quote http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/africa/item/13281-south-african-communists-friends-in-high-places Mandela wrote a document boasting he was a communist ,that was presented as evidence at his own trial in the early 60's: “We communist party members are the most advanced revolutionaries in modern history,” Mandela proclaimed in a document later used when he was prosecuted for sabotage and treason. “The people of South Africa, led by the South African Communist Party, will destroy capitalist society and build in its place socialism.” In the 1980s, Mandela was repeatedly offered the opportunity to get out of prison if he would just renounce violence. He refused.
View Quote A former ANC and SACP member well known to Mandela testified before the U.S. Congress that Mandela was indeed a communist: The ANC, meanwhile, was listed as a terrorist group as late as 1988 by the U.S. Congress, which had previously documented its control by communist forces. “No major decision could be taken by the ANC without the concurrence and approval of the Central Committee of the South African Communist Party,” former ANC and SACP leader Bartholomew Hlapane testified before the U.S. Congress. Less than a year later, he and his wife were executed by an assassin using a Soviet-made AK-47.
View Quote http://www.workers.org/articles/2013/12/06/statement-south-african-communist-party-nelson-mandela/ The South African Communist Party released a statement, shortly after Mandela's death, that Mandela was indeed a communist: At his arrest in August 1962, Nelson Mandela was not only a member of the then underground South African Communist Party, but was also a member of our Party’s Central Committee. To us as South African communists, Comrade Mandela shall forever symbolise the monumental contribution of the SACP in our liberation struggle. The contribution of communists in the struggle to achieve the South African freedom has very few parallels in the history of our country. After his release from prison in 1990, Comrade Madiba became a great and close friend of the communists till his last days.
View Quote http://www.bdlive.co.za/national/2013/12/06/sacp-confirms-nelson-mandela-was-a-member A high ranking officer in the SACP confirms the SACP statement released a few days ago that Mandela was a communist: FORMER president Nelson Mandela was a member of the South African Communist Party’s (SACP’s) central executive committee at the time of his arrest in 1962, the SACP and the African National Congress (ANC) confirmed on Friday.
SACP deputy general secretary Solly Mapaila on Thursday said he was a member of the party, but it was denied at the time for "political reasons". "There was a huge offensive by the oppressive apartheid regime at the time against communists. They portrayed the ANC as a communist organisation, but it was not," he said. Mr Mapaila said all the Rivonia Trialists were members of the party. View Quote I wonder why Leftists always deny the associations with such vigor and why they are building a Mandela mythology deplete of this information... |
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well no shit coming from the channel of Martin Bashir and Keith Olberman
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Expose the lies man, expose the lies.
(I know- preaching to the choir) |
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AL needs to be put in a institution.
He's also had a rivalry with Bill O Reilly recently as well.
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AR15.com: ARFCOM members agree "MSNBC not a news organization."
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AR15.com: ARFCOM members agree "MSNBC not a news organization." View Quote I would agree it is a leftist opinion channel. But there's a certain amount of entertainment value associated with it. By people with a certain amount of gravitas within the MSM. Hell, all of their Republican counterparts are establishment moderates, so it's mostly lots of positive head shaking and verbal affirmations of the crazy statements by the left. But damn, the things they say. Lots of crazy. Lots of denial. Lots of other things... |
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It is a damned shame he did not die young to a grenade in the asshole.
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Birds of a feather flock together.
Just one Commie watching the other's back. |
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right.
And my asshole doesn't have a brown ring around it after I take a shit either... Dumb fucks. |
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I stopped reading at "Al Sharpton" - although I probably screwed up reading past "MSNBC."
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Clearly, Al Sharpton is in denial and completely delusional.
Or, he's a lying POS intentionally using his position to spew propaganda aimed at creating another mythological African figurehead to be worshiped by those too stupid to know or find out for themselves. And oh by the way, what's in this for Al? He's not the type to do anything for free. |
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Racist whitey propaganda is racist.
That shit isn't history, it's HIStory. |
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That's pretty hard to refute! |
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idk...read the qoutes and links. To hell with sharpton and msnbc. Looks like obongo's game plan to me. |
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Here's the link to the video. It starts out as a rebuff to O'Reilly stating that Mandela was a communist, but goes into a full on screed in short order. 5 minutes long. Left cold.
http://on.msnbc.com/19iGWmC |
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Mandela is now a GOOD communist. http://cdn.chud.com/2/2e/350x214px-LL-2efa7844_South-Park-nice.jpeg Yup, now he's the only good kind of communist. |
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Man, the media now just straight up lies. It's not even rhetoric anymore just flat out lies that can't even stand up to a two second Google search.
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I would agree it is a leftist opinion channel. But there's a certain amount of entertainment value associated with it. By people with a certain amount of gravitas within the MSM. Hell, all of their Republican counterparts are establishment moderates, so it's mostly lots of positive head shaking and verbal affirmations of the crazy statements by the left. But damn, the things they say. Lots of crazy. Lots of denial. Lots of other things... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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AR15.com: ARFCOM members agree "MSNBC not a news organization." I would agree it is a leftist opinion channel. But there's a certain amount of entertainment value associated with it. By people with a certain amount of gravitas within the MSM. Hell, all of their Republican counterparts are establishment moderates, so it's mostly lots of positive head shaking and verbal affirmations of the crazy statements by the left. But damn, the things they say. Lots of crazy. Lots of denial. Lots of other things... MSNBC is nothing but DU on TV. |
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If I wrote a book titled "How to be a Good Communist" it would consist of nothing but several detailed methods of killing yourself.
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Ok. took a little while but hear it is (computer crash and some maintenance). Have to suffer through a 30 second GE commercial. Left cold.
http://on.msnbc.com/19iGWmC |
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You guys are just racists. The guy was a saint. My mother told me that. She doesn't know about his life but she knows he's a good man.
Fuck, fuck, fuck people just can't open up their eyes and ears and think for themselves. |
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From How To Be A Good Communist:
A Communist is a member of the Communist Party who understands and accepts the theory and practice of Marxism-Leninism as explained by Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin , and who subjects himself to the discipline of the Party. (See notes 1, 2, 3 & 4)
The goal of Communism is a classless society based on the principle: from each according to his ability and to each according to his needs. The aim is to change the present world into a Communist world where there will be no exploiters and no exploited, no oppressor and oppressed, no rich and no poor. Communists fight for a world where there will be no unemployment, no poverty and starvation, disease and ignorance. In such a world there will be no capitalists, no imperialists, no fascists. There will be neither colonies nor wars. In our own country, the struggles of the oppressed people are guided by the South African Communist Party and inspired by its policies. The aim of the S.A.C.P. is to defeat the Nationalist government and to free the people of South Africa from the evils of racial discrimination and exploitation and to build a classless or socialist society in which the land, the mines, the mills, our . . . . . . . (unreadable) Under a Communist Party Government South Africa will become a land of milk and honey. Political, economic and social rights will cease to be enjoyed by Whites only. They will be shared equally by Whites and Non-Whites. There will be enough land and houses for all. There will be no unemployment, starvation and disease. Workers will earn decent wages; transport will be cheap and education free. There will be no pass laws, no influx control, no Police raids for passes and poll tax, and Africans, Europeans, Coloureds and Indians will live in racial peace and perfect equality. The victory of Socialism in the U.S.S.R., in the Peoples Republic of China, in Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland and Rumania, where the living conditions of the people were in many respects similar and even worse than ours, proves that we too can achieve this important goal. Communists everywhere fight to destroy capitalist society and to replace it with Socialism, where the masses of the common people, irrespective of race or colour, will live in complete equality, freedom and happiness. They seek to revolutionise society and are thus called revolutionaries. Those who support capitalism with its class divisions and other evils and who oppose our just struggles to end oppression are called counter revolutionaries. View Quote |
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That's pretty hard to refute! thats a shoop......i know......pixels...... |
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Quoted: The ever-declining viewership numbers of MSNBC would seem to confirm Arfcom's opinion as valid View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: AR15.com: ARFCOM members agree "MSNBC not a news organization." The ever-declining viewership numbers of MSNBC would seem to confirm Arfcom's opinion as valid Good points. OP, please cite a reputable news source. |
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Heck, to the MSNCB crowd Mandela is probably viewed as a right winger.
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I would agree it is a leftist opinion channel. But there's a certain amount of entertainment value associated with it. By people with a certain amount of gravitas within the MSM. Hell, all of their Republican counterparts are establishment moderates, so it's mostly lots of positive head shaking and verbal affirmations of the crazy statements by the left. But damn, the things they say. Lots of crazy. Lots of denial. Lots of other things... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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AR15.com: ARFCOM members agree "MSNBC not a news organization." I would agree it is a leftist opinion channel. But there's a certain amount of entertainment value associated with it. By people with a certain amount of gravitas within the MSM. Hell, all of their Republican counterparts are establishment moderates, so it's mostly lots of positive head shaking and verbal affirmations of the crazy statements by the left. But damn, the things they say. Lots of crazy. Lots of denial. Lots of other things... All of their news is opinionated, what is there not to like? |
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