You do understand the political landscape is COMPLETELY stacked against L party members right?

Hell even you were completely against them.

As I said before when ya'll picked the guy who did the worst in the Republican primary, again...
Bring your own Candidate. A real one. Not some shithead we just told to fuck off a month ago. You even picked the shittiest of the losers. Who didn't bother to fucking campaign. Start now!! There has to be someone, anyone in the libertarian party worth pushing forward. Do it!!!!
For Fucks sake give us a fuckin choice... Not leftovers.

Your integrity is so shabby that you don't even realize that you do it.  You lie and attempt to claim I called her "stupid." When called on your lies, you respond in an Obama-esque manner, by lying AGAIN and claiming that I referred to her as "crazy."  It seems to be your thing.

I compare her to a 13'er in a very direct and overt manner; she is a relative nobody who appears on the internet who arrives with an inflated sense of her own self-importance, by delivering a treatise that nobody really wants to read -the classic 13'er.

13'er means neither stupid nor crazy, but is a common term that we have all used here on this site without anyone but YOU ever suggesting that it is the same thing as the "N Word" or is a shameful tactic.  But again, you make such allegations, because you are a liar.

So you believe a 3rd Party can win in the next election?

 

I just wanted to hear him say he thinks a third party can win after giving everyone else shit about voting for a third party.

I do find it very ironic that he now seems to be advocating for a third party though.

Maybe he is turning!

Short of a ConCon happening, coming off right, and then actually being obeyed, I don't think there is any way that this train to hell is going to stop. Big government is too hungry.

Want to read something funny?   Read Federalist 17. Hamilton really knocked that one out of the park

The Anti crowd was SO FUCKING RIGHT.

 

 

I have already tried.

Trying to get them to bite the hand that feeds them is hard work.

I may have better luck telling my chickens to run away or they will be slaughtered!

The chickens don't believe me either!

So the comparison may be a bit extreme.  My intention was to show your hypocrisy.  Are you saying that the term 13'er has no negative connotation at all?

As much as Cherry

If your party continues with business as usual lack of candidates and just being general internet irritants no. No chance. However if you did what I suggest then you betcha it's possible.

Lol.  Anarchists advocate for,a system WITHOUT government.  Not for,a,system without rules or organization or leaders, but without a special class of people who are magically exempted from the non aggression principle.

I explained in depth exactly how I meant it, in no uncertain terms.

You claimed that using that term is akin to using the N Word, not to mention, all your other lies.

The N Word?

Like I said, it was an extreme example being used to prove a point.  A point that seems wont ever be seen.  If you truly believe the use of 13'er has no negative connotation to it, and youre offended by my response to such, I apologize.

Ayup.

You know how fucking naive you sound. When in human history has what you're advocating ever worked better than what we have now?

What you're dreamland looks like is warlords taking control, and those strongmen will end up ruling you much more harshly than your current form of government. You're nuts to think Non-aggression pacts can overcome human nature.

she borders anarchist.

relative to each other one party was more for freedom and another party was more for government.  of course today either of those two parties would be labeled as right wing extremist and potential domestic terrorist by the Department of Homeland Security.

as for the founding fathers being good or bad, well it is not really fair to judge them based on the moral standards we have today.  for their time they were pretty enlighten but many of them still owned slaves and whatnot, even Samuel Adam.  we can appreciate what they left us even whilst recognizing their shortcomings

Zing!

13'er means exactly what I said it means.  You are now suggesting that claiming it is akin to the N word disproves that 13'r has zero negative connotations?  How does that work? When did I claim that 13'er had zero negative connotations?  I did not.  

Your use of idiotic hyperbole does not offend me, nor does your unfortunate propensity for lying.  I've come to terms with the fact that not everyone values integrity.

I think she was asking how far towards loading people in cattle cars will you go before its to far?

 

sir if you do not understand the difference between a leader and a ruler let me help you. a leader is someone who was followed voluntarily.  that could be the pastor at church that had a Boy Scout Troop a manager at work.  none of these people have the authority to have you kidnapped locked up or killed if you do not go along with what they want..  sure they have some means of leverage within their institution but it is fundamentally voluntary, you chose to be there and you can choose to leave.  

a ruler is someone who can and will use violence to enforce compliance.  whether you were born under their Dominion or a majority of your fellow assholes appointed him into power or he is a foreign invader with a bunch of henchmen that set himself up is besides the point.  all of the voluntary organisations I pointed to are instances of the way people can create order without there being a actual ruler in the mix.  

take your own family. Do you give your wife black eyes if she does not do the dishes?  would you want that type of violence and threats of violence to be an integral part of the organization of your family?  

you say there has never been an instance of an anarchist stick society.  maybe you are right but is besides the point.  anarchist do not have some sort of scheme to violently overthrow their government and then impose anything on other people..  the idea is to try and make more and more human relationships the voluntary and peaceful gradually overtime, and organic and gradual moral Reformation, probably a multi-generational one.

if you were an abolitionist a couple hundred years ago I could just as easily say to you that you sound f****** naive because there has never been a civilization without some type of slavery.  I could bring up all sorts of objections to ending slavery same things such as the cotton is not going to pick itself xcetera.  fundamentally it is a moral question not a practical one.  there are moral objections to this notion that a certain group of people in a society should have the right to attack other people and steal from them.  I submit that the burden is on the status to show how that can be justified rather than on the anarchist for how that can be practical.

why do you not watch that video that I have linked on page 3 with the blonde with big tits.

You are wasting your time trying to explain it. People like that say they support freedom but their idea of freedom is solely regarding activities, morals and habits they approve of.

Wrong anarchists.  Those guys are largely 4chan-fueled socialist/communists.



Marx
believed that the entire world should be the only state.  Stateless was
in reference to individual nation states.  Or so I've always been
taught.
 
 

She rawks!!!

 

Me to

You claimed you weren't attacking the messenger with your words.  I merely pointed out that you were with the use of the word 13'er and I went a little overboard with my comparison.  I apologized for that.  Make up your mind, you insinuate this when you respond that you're not attacking the messenger.  Better yet, GTFOH with your passive aggressive trolling its lost its luster.

Seriously?  That's the direction you want to take?  Dude, I was married to a screaching leftist-- I know the tactics too well to bite on this offal.



Dude!  Page 9!  Why are you even still here pissing
and moaning over a video you said yourself you didn't watch?  Why not
just start a new thread about shitty 13'ers and how useless they are?

 
 
 

That is not an attack, it is merely an explanation as to why I don't care what she says. It's as trite and boring as a 13'er and I don't care.  Is that an attack?  Only if you are a whiny little bitch.

But I can see that you are upset.  There's nothing passive or covert in anything I am saying. I speak truthfully and in a straight forward manner.  You, on the other hand, have repeatedly lied and use the Leftist tactics of equating any criticism with racism.

Been out with physically beautiful women.  Been out with witty, intelligent women.  Been out with a whole assortment of different types.  Over the years, I've learned one or two things.  





1.  The best sex I've ever had wasn't the best lay I've ever had.





2. The most physically beautiful woman I've ever been out with was ugly as fuck where it counted.





3. Beauty is subjective once the woman opens her mouth and her mind starts making an appearance.





4. There's an ugly threshold (at least for some of us) beyond which the brightest mind and greatest personality struggles to shine through.  This threshold is different for all of us, and one man's beauty is another man's hog.





5. You dream when you sleep.  Your eyes are closed when you sleep.  Your dream girl is the girl who makes you happy to wake up from that sleep beside, regardless of whether she can win anybody's beauty contest but yours.





6. It's ruinously difficult to communicate with anyone who doesn't speak your language.  A physical beauty who only speaks collectivism (or, god forbid, progressivism) will have great difficulty speaking to a SO who speaks freedom/liberty.





Rosie ain't bad, physically.  Sure, she carries a few more pounds than the runway models currently in favor.  Of course, she's a little underfed, classically.  Need to put on a few extra pounds to match some of those Greek or Roman statues-- or even the early 19th century flavor.  In fact, I'd wager that Marylin Monroe, Mae West, Anita Ekberg, and a host of other (in their day-- don't, dear God, google Anita Ekberg!) beauty queens from the '50s-'60s would all tip the scales upwards of what Josie boasts.





Overall, quite the all-American country girl cutie.





Her head seems to be MOSTLY in the right place.  If the words she's saying in the video are her's or in alignment with hers, she rings more libertarian than anarchist.





She has a pleasant voice that I (personally, for what it's worth) wouldn't mind hearing first thing in the morning.





End result (in my mind) tips the scale farther towards the side of "dream girl" than not.




 
 

Give it a rest cinncinatus.  Next thing you know youll be doing a larry craig style press statement saying:
"im not a statist, ive never been astatist, ill never be a statist."

listen, I get your point, it is a criticism of the human species that to get most men to listen to something, the messenger has to have tits.  but that simply is how things are and you have to deal with people as they are to get through to them.  Am I frustruated that no one watchs vids I post of "tubby" bc he is a mustachioed ginger.  Sure, but im happy at leasr that sugar britches can get a little traction.

You are adding nothing of value to the conversation here.  Please go start another thread about how whoever is stupid.  Thx

You've convinced me.  This thread is just too full of stupid.  Have a great night

I've got to agree with this. I have nothing against cinncinatus, but this thread isn't about bitching about '13ers. As to the messenger, I can appreciate anyone who is willing to make an honest statement about their beliefs, and even MORE so when the generally coincide with mine. The "hotness" of the messenger has no bearing, although I will say, if I was 20 years younger I would most definitely pursue ;). Skinny girls are to...skinny.

We don't need anarchy. We need the gov to fear us which they do not and have not for a very long time. Our system of gov works just fine, the assholes working the system are the problem.. We need to replace ALL OF THEM with new members. Members who will follow the COTUS. Once they are run out of DC the new guys might have a different view of things, if not we would have to run them out also.

Anarchy is a joke just like thinking that changing only the president is a joke. They all need changed and changed now.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

And you derive absolutely no benefits from that government taking money from people, right?

The military is a total waste of tax payer dollars, and the Founders were  morons for putting national defense as a responsibility of the government in the constitution. That is what you are saying, yes?

All people in the military have no skills outside of the mil or gov. It doesn't matter that the overwhelming majority of the mil is non-combat arms and that the training people get in the mil often helps them attain civilian employment outside of the mil and gov (especially non-combat arms related jobs..).

It's amazing how often people who claim to be rightwing often sound like liberals. An Anarchist is anarchist I suppose.

Did you show up to protest the WTO this year? How was Bali? Am I giving you too much credit for assuming you could afford to go to Bali?