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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:01:22 PM EDT
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In?
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:02:06 PM EDT
[#2]
They're hiding something.
Likely their own ineptitude. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:02:54 PM EDT
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I'll get in on this.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:02:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:03:38 PM EDT
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BUT Y DO U WANT 2 SEE DED CHILDRENS U T4OOFER?!?!?!!!!1
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:04:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:04:54 PM EDT
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In. This will not end well
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:04:59 PM EDT
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There is always an ulterior motive.
The press places no value on accuracy, only sensationalism. -Lee |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:05:07 PM EDT
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They will report that Adam Lanza was an alien nephalim!
Que the "it's aliens" guy. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:08:22 PM EDT
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Announcements will coincide with the next gun control push. Ducks are being alined
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:10:38 PM EDT
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Delay facts from getting out as long as possible. Once they get out it will no longer be a shining star for gun control..
What comes out will be that once again police stood by while kids were being murdered. That it didn't mater if he had an assult weapon. He had time to do as be pleased. This info is already out but not widely known to the public. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:11:07 PM EDT
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I'm betting most the kids were killed with a shogun...
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:12:45 PM EDT
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I am selling my silver and buying tin foil!
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:13:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Delay facts from getting out as long as possible. Once they get out it will no longer be a shining star for gun control.. What comes out will be that once again police stood by while kids were being murdered. That it didn't mater if he had an assult weapon. He had time to do as be pleased. This info is already out but not widely known to the public. This would be my guess as well. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:15:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:15:22 PM EDT
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I wish they'd just release all of the info, aside from pics of the victims. Won't hold my breath for it though.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:15:23 PM EDT
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Delay facts from getting out as long as possible. Once they get out it will no longer be a shining star for gun control.. What comes out will be that once again police stood by while kids were being murdered. That it didn't mater if he had an assult weapon. He had time to do as be pleased. This info is already out but not widely known to the public.
I really don't think this is the case. At all. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:16:10 PM EDT
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 Well if there is something that needs to be further investigated, kinda of late now. The destruction of the school still as the investigation was on going seemed odd. raze a crime seen to the ground while the investigation is ongoing. I am not going to speculate what is being possibly hidden but this case seems off, at least the way it has been handled from day one.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:16:31 PM EDT
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Made it in on one for the ensuing CF
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:17:42 PM EDT
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I'm betting most the kids were killed with a shogun... 
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:19:19 PM EDT
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I'm really wondering now what is so secret about this. Demolish the place behind cover and rebuild? Seems a bit much.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:19:31 PM EDT
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http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1511472.1383971383!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/newtown9n-6-web.jpg Well if there is something that needs to be further investigated, kinda of late now. The destruction of the school still as the investigation was on going seemed odd. raze a crime seen to the ground while the investigation is ongoing. I am not going to speculate what is being possibly hidden but this case seems off, at least the way it has been handled from day one. so, just like Waco and OKC.... waste no time destroying the scene for < insert suspicious reasons here> |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:27:26 PM EDT
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Sadly, it could have gone down exactly as they say it did and people would still question it. Rightfully so considering the apparent contempt by the powers that be for the citizens of this country. NSA, Fast&Furious, IRS targeting of political groups, Obamacare, ACORN, etc. It's not difficult to see how average Joe taxpayer might feel their well being is not given much consideration nowadays.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:27:59 PM EDT
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I'm sure all the reasons listed here are probably why this is being kept under wraps.
- Slow to react / less than ideal LEO response - Doesn't fit the political narrative right now. Gun Control was defeated a few months back. Perhaps their saving the report for release the next time someone goes on a school shooting spree to "fan the flames" as it were. - Or the other way around, and any of the previously or current proposed gun control would not have stopped this. Any way you slice it, it's bad. So much for transparency. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:28:00 PM EDT
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Announcements will coincide with the next gun control push. Ducks are being alined Yes... except the Post is normally part of that media manipulation. Not saying you are wrong, but WaPo putting up a story that doesn't help the cause is something of a head scratcher. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:30:27 PM EDT
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Announcements will coincide with the next gun control push. Ducks are being alined THIS is a scary thought.... 
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:32:44 PM EDT
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It makes zero sense for this to be so secretive. This isn't something with national security implications. Hell, it's not even a federal case.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:33:19 PM EDT
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Do you even tinfoil bro?
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:34:12 PM EDT
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I'm sure all the reasons listed here are probably why this is being kept under wraps. - Slow to react / less than ideal LEO response - Doesn't fit the political narrative right now. Gun Control was defeated a few months back. Perhaps their saving the report for release the next time someone goes on a school shooting spree to "fan the flames" as it were. - Or the other way around, and any of the previously or current proposed gun control would not have stopped this. Any way you slice it, it's bad. So much for transparency. 4. obama false flag op that left to many clues. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:35:38 PM EDT
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My non dramatic conspiracy theory is that a would be victim killed the gunman mid/post massacre, or a LEO killed him post massacre. It would be a messy story to try and spin if this was the case. Or the authorities are just covering for the cowardice/ineptitude of the first responding LEO's which allowed the crazy guy to keep killing unchecked.
These make sense, false flag op does not. It's crazy talk like the nanothermite nonsense. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:38:33 PM EDT
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They've been busily trying to figure out what it should say.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:41:20 PM EDT
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I was surprised to see this coming from some mainstream sources lately.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:48:51 PM EDT
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IBTL
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:49:54 PM EDT
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They will report that Adam Lanza was an alien nephalim!
Que the "it's aliens" guy. Im not saying it was aliens... |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:51:07 PM EDT
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Announcements will coincide with the next gun control push. Ducks are being alined Im going to go with this. If there is any "conspiracy" its that they want details and pictures of dead children to come out when they are trying to gain support for major federal gun control. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:52:51 PM EDT
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Probably a LEO/ administration fuckup they don't want known. From the pictures I've seen there doesn't appear to be a single hole in the door frame.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:54:03 PM EDT
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BUT Y DO U WANT 2 SEE DED CHILDRENS U T4OOFER?!?!?!!!!1 Got to be quick to be in before sandy hook dead childrens 
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Posted: 11/24/2013 8:55:56 PM EDT
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Everything about this has stunk from day one. The more it drags on the smellier it gets.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 9:00:24 PM EDT
[#39]
My tinfoil is soooo tight
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Posted: 11/24/2013 9:05:03 PM EDT
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They're hiding something. Likely their own ineptitude. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 9:10:00 PM EDT
[#41]
In on one?
Edit: Yes I am.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 9:15:50 PM EDT
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It takes time to write a good script.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 9:18:05 PM EDT
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Probably a LEO/ administration fuckup they don't want known. From the pictures I've seen there doesn't appear to be a single hole in the door frame. That part of the story always struck me as odd, too. He "shot his way in" sounds a hell of a lot better than "he was buzzed in by an employee who recognized him as a teachers son" when there are over 20 victims, most of them kids. That modest detail builds a shit ton of liability on the schools behalf. And how do you "shoot your way in" anyway? Shoot the lock so the door magically pops open? I know it sounds Rambo for the news and looks great in a movie, but is that realistic? What range was he at? You shoot a metal door/lock with .223 and you're going to frag the hell out of yourself. I also remember "shooting his way in" being one of the first things reported that morning, which brings me to my next WTF point. When you see a potential PR nightmare brewing your first reaction is to get out in front and deflect it. Kinda like "a crude and disgusting youtube video". |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 9:18:49 PM EDT
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It takes time to write a good script. I'd like to see even a simple timeline, like: Time bad guy enters school. Time shooting starts. Time cops arrive on the scene. Time shooting stops. Apparently, that's too much to ask. I remember the Columbine debacle. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 9:23:19 PM EDT
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I grew up with street sense, anything that looks odd, usually is odd.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 9:28:32 PM EDT
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I thought it was a glass window next to the door.
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That part of the story always struck me as odd, too. He "shot his way in" sounds a hell of a lot better than "he was buzzed in by an employee who recognized him as a teachers son" when there are over 20 victims, most of them kids. That modest detail builds a shit ton of liability on the schools behalf. And how do you "shoot your way in" anyway? Shoot the lock so the door magically pops open? I know it sounds Rambo for the news and looks great in a movie, but is that realistic? What range was he at? You shoot a metal door/lock with .223 and you're going to frag the hell out of yourself. I also remember "shooting his way in" being one of the first things reported that morning, which brings me to my next WTF point. When you see a potential PR nightmare brewing your first reaction is to get out in front and deflect it. Kinda like "a crude and disgusting youtube video". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Probably a LEO/ administration fuckup they don't want known. From the pictures I've seen there doesn't appear to be a single hole in the door frame. That part of the story always struck me as odd, too. He "shot his way in" sounds a hell of a lot better than "he was buzzed in by an employee who recognized him as a teachers son" when there are over 20 victims, most of them kids. That modest detail builds a shit ton of liability on the schools behalf. And how do you "shoot your way in" anyway? Shoot the lock so the door magically pops open? I know it sounds Rambo for the news and looks great in a movie, but is that realistic? What range was he at? You shoot a metal door/lock with .223 and you're going to frag the hell out of yourself. I also remember "shooting his way in" being one of the first things reported that morning, which brings me to my next WTF point. When you see a potential PR nightmare brewing your first reaction is to get out in front and deflect it. Kinda like "a crude and disgusting youtube video". |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 9:37:22 PM EDT
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I thought it was a glass window next to the door. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I thought it was a glass window next to the door. Quoted:
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Probably a LEO/ administration fuckup they don't want known. From the pictures I've seen there doesn't appear to be a single hole in the door frame. That part of the story always struck me as odd, too. He "shot his way in" sounds a hell of a lot better than "he was buzzed in by an employee who recognized him as a teachers son" when there are over 20 victims, most of them kids. That modest detail builds a shit ton of liability on the schools behalf. And how do you "shoot your way in" anyway? Shoot the lock so the door magically pops open? I know it sounds Rambo for the news and looks great in a movie, but is that realistic? What range was he at? You shoot a metal door/lock with .223 and you're going to frag the hell out of yourself. I also remember "shooting his way in" being one of the first things reported that morning, which brings me to my next WTF point. When you see a potential PR nightmare brewing your first reaction is to get out in front and deflect it. Kinda like "a crude and disgusting youtube video". Well that would make sense, wouldn't it. 
Both elementary schools I went to had that wire mesh inside the glass. Shoot it all you want, there's no getting through. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 9:40:19 PM EDT
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It makes zero sense for this to be so secretive. This isn't something with national security implications. Hell, it's not even a federal case. Quote HistoryQuoted:
It makes zero sense for this to be so secretive. This isn't something with national security implications. Hell, it's not even a federal case. I think it might have something to do with an embarrassing lack of a decisive and fast LE response - OR- a possible MAJOR security procedure screw- up at the school that would put the county/district in a very bad legal situation to get sued into oblivion... but I don't know crap, just guessing. What they have released is a no brainier...detailed "arsenal of Lanzas weapons"...they had to get that narrative out in the media ASAP. 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/24/secrecy-shrouds-sandy-hook-massacre-probe/?intcmp=latestnews So far, investigators have released little more than search warrants, which detailed an arsenal of weapons found inside the Lanza home. The information that authorities have not revealed includes the timeline of the police response to the shooting, any mental health records for Lanza and whether investigators found any clues to a possible motive for the rampage. EDIT: shit, one post a little late on this one...sorry for the kinda - dupe
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Posted: 11/24/2013 10:19:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That part of the story always struck me as odd, too. He "shot his way in" sounds a hell of a lot better than "he was buzzed in by an employee who recognized him as a teachers son" when there are over 20 victims, most of them kids. That modest detail builds a shit ton of liability on the schools behalf. And how do you "shoot your way in" anyway? Shoot the lock so the door magically pops open? I know it sounds Rambo for the news and looks great in a movie, but is that realistic? What range was he at? You shoot a metal door/lock with .223 and you're going to frag the hell out of yourself. I also remember "shooting his way in" being one of the first things reported that morning, which brings me to my next WTF point. When you see a potential PR nightmare brewing your first reaction is to get out in front and deflect it. Kinda like "a crude and disgusting youtube video". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Probably a LEO/ administration fuckup they don't want known. From the pictures I've seen there doesn't appear to be a single hole in the door frame. That part of the story always struck me as odd, too. He "shot his way in" sounds a hell of a lot better than "he was buzzed in by an employee who recognized him as a teachers son" when there are over 20 victims, most of them kids. That modest detail builds a shit ton of liability on the schools behalf. And how do you "shoot your way in" anyway? Shoot the lock so the door magically pops open? I know it sounds Rambo for the news and looks great in a movie, but is that realistic? What range was he at? You shoot a metal door/lock with .223 and you're going to frag the hell out of yourself. I also remember "shooting his way in" being one of the first things reported that morning, which brings me to my next WTF point. When you see a potential PR nightmare brewing your first reaction is to get out in front and deflect it. Kinda like "a crude and disgusting youtube video". |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 10:24:12 PM EDT
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Don't they always mention that Lanza's hard drives were "smashed"?
What difference does that make? They can retrieve everything from a "smashed" drive. And I'm sure they did. |
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