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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:25:38 PM EDT
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Of all the shit to get spun up about this aint it.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:26:23 PM EDT
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Of all the shit to get spun up about this aint it. No shit. Best practices and what not. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:27:03 PM EDT
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Actually, the recent GPS decision could affect this practice. IIRC, the ruling was if the government "trespasses" upon the vehicle then it's illegal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In before some nut says its illegal for cops to touch your car without a warrant Gr Actually, the recent GPS decision could affect this practice. IIRC, the ruling was if the government "trespasses" upon the vehicle then it's illegal. 
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:28:07 PM EDT
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I do it on every stop. What about it Me too... not sure why they are announcing it to everyone?? |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:32:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Either time, was the trunk popped when you pulled them over, and they were waiting to ambush you, but you discovered it by pressing the lid as you walked by? Or was it just some dumb asses hiding in the trunk hoping to not get caught, and you only found them after questioning the driver or searching the vehicle? There's a big difference between guys hiding in trunks hoping to not get caught, and guys lying in wait in trunks, ready to ambush you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They are also checking to be sure the trunk is closed, and someone isn't going to pop out behind them. Yeah. I bet a lot of criminals ride around with an extra dude in the trunk with an AK just in case they get pulled over by the fuzz. I've already pulled two felons out of the trunks of cars where they were hiding. Next stupid statement, please. There's a big difference between guys hiding in trunks hoping to not get caught, and guys lying in wait in trunks, ready to ambush you. On the first one, yes, he was lying down with the trunk lid very slightly ajar, which is what got my attention. I don't know if he was looking to ambush me, since he wasn't particularly interested in talking to me about his tactics after the cuffs went on. The second one was located because the driver (his girlfriend) dimed him out. I ALWAYS check the trunk because of the first incident. I didn't do it before then, even though I was taught to do so in the academy. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:32:09 PM EDT
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Me too... not sure why they are announcing it to everyone?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do it on every stop. What about it Me too... not sure why they are announcing it to everyone?? Is there a problem with "announcing it to everyone"? |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:32:33 PM EDT
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Whenever I get pulled over, I inform the officer that I have a ccw, so I can get his prints on my firearm and hopefully the casings, too.
Relax, it's a joke. I think that's pretty smart. Macabre as hell, but smart. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:33:23 PM EDT
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Done it for years, as a precaution
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:36:09 PM EDT
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Is there a problem with "announcing it to everyone"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do it on every stop. What about it Me too... not sure why they are announcing it to everyone?? Is there a problem with "announcing it to everyone"? Because people who would be inclined to kill an LEO now have additional info about law enforcement techniques that could help them evade capture, and prosecution. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:37:21 PM EDT
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So?
ETA: to OP not above. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:37:49 PM EDT
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Actually, the recent GPS decision could affect this practice. IIRC, the ruling was if the government "trespasses" upon the vehicle then it's illegal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In before some nut says its illegal for cops to touch your car without a warrant Gr Actually, the recent GPS decision could affect this practice. IIRC, the ruling was if the government "trespasses" upon the vehicle then it's illegal.
Stop, please. You just just make yourself look stupid. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:40:33 PM EDT
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That's the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard. Yeah. I bet a lot of criminals ride around with an extra dude in the trunk with an AK just in case they get pulled over by the fuzz.
Or put a light coating of Vaseline on the light after you wash your car. 
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They are also checking to be sure the trunk is closed, and someone isn't going to pop out behind them. Yeah. I bet a lot of criminals ride around with an extra dude in the trunk with an AK just in case they get pulled over by the fuzz.
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While I love a god JBT thread is it really a good idea to be advertising this info? Seems like a small step to wipe down your tail lights after doing something unspeakable....
You think that's ludicrous ? Are you a cop? Gr |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:44:13 PM EDT
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Actually, the recent GPS decision could affect this practice. IIRC, the ruling was if the government "trespasses" upon the vehicle then it's illegal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In before some nut says its illegal for cops to touch your car without a warrant Gr Actually, the recent GPS decision could affect this practice. IIRC, the ruling was if the government "trespasses" upon the vehicle then it's illegal. Would touching the vehicle create joinder? Gr |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:45:09 PM EDT
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I would rather them touch my car then leave some other traces of their DNA on my hood What about your lower back?  
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:45:12 PM EDT
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Would touching the vehicle create joinder? Gr Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In before some nut says its illegal for cops to touch your car without a warrant Gr Actually, the recent GPS decision could affect this practice. IIRC, the ruling was if the government "trespasses" upon the vehicle then it's illegal. Would touching the vehicle create joinder? Gr Do not create joinder! 
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:46:54 PM EDT
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I'm kinda surprised some dickhead hasn't reported his car stolen and made them dust for prints knowing who will show up.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:47:44 PM EDT
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Well if a cop was to put his prints on my junk.......wait, what? Trunk? Never mind.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:47:47 PM EDT
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I'm kinda surprised some dickhead hasn't reported his car stolen and made them dust for prints knowing who will show up. My prints aren't in the system. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:49:54 PM EDT
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Why am I thinking of a 5-year old screaming " DAAAAADD! He's touching me!!
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:50:09 PM EDT
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Cop touches my truck is going to have to clean his hands...I never wash the darned thing. As dirty as my truck is I bet a finger print would not even show up. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:50:48 PM EDT
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Because people who would be inclined to kill an LEO now have additional info about law enforcement techniques that could help them evade capture, and prosecution. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do it on every stop. What about it Me too... not sure why they are announcing it to everyone?? Is there a problem with "announcing it to everyone"? Because people who would be inclined to kill an LEO now have additional info about law enforcement techniques that could help them evade capture, and prosecution. Oh please that's a far stretch. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:51:16 PM EDT
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Of all the shit to get spun up about this aint it. This. Who fucking cares? Zero fucks given. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:51:40 PM EDT
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I'm kinda surprised some dickhead hasn't reported his car stolen and made them dust for prints knowing who will show up. Prints on a car alone wouldn't be enough for even a charge. We get prints a lot of the time on recovered vehicles and without more evidence they rarely do much good....other than to know who to keep an eye out for. Plus there would be a record of the officer stopping the car. Sorry, I'm no fun at parties  .
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:52:32 PM EDT
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Actually, the recent GPS decision could affect this practice. IIRC, the ruling was if the government "trespasses" upon the vehicle then it's illegal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In before some nut says its illegal for cops to touch your car without a warrant Gr Actually, the recent GPS decision could affect this practice. IIRC, the ruling was if the government "trespasses" upon the vehicle then it's illegal. LOL, wut? |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:54:10 PM EDT
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Cop touches my truck is going to have to clean his hands...I never wash the darned thing. 
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:55:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/24/2013 1:57:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThere is never a monkey.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:08:06 PM EDT
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I've seen AK Troopers do it, don't care, pretty sure it's common knowledge anymore, you'd be pretty damned dumb if they caught you because of it, oh wait..... you're pretty damned dumb to kill a cop, and even moreso to do it on camera or in a car that can be traced back to you.
ETA: popped trunk reasoning does not explain them finger f'n the tailgate on my open bed pickup. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:10:31 PM EDT
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Oh please that's a far stretch. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do it on every stop. What about it Me too... not sure why they are announcing it to everyone?? Is there a problem with "announcing it to everyone"? Because people who would be inclined to kill an LEO now have additional info about law enforcement techniques that could help them evade capture, and prosecution. Oh please that's a far stretch. No, it's really not. I've had cases break one way or another on a single finger print or less. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:11:52 PM EDT
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The tin foil is strong in you OP.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:14:40 PM EDT
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No, it's really not. I've had cases break one way or another on a single finger print or less. It's common knowledge so the point is moot. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:18:16 PM EDT
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Not sure why this irks folks so much. Regardless of whether you are going to give him your license or the business end of your 45, you can just wipe the print off later. Perhaps if it was a very nice car that had just been washed and waxed or prepped for show I could see being annoyed. As it stands it's trivial though. There are much better LE policies to get spun up about if one is so inclined.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:19:00 PM EDT
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I do it. Got a problem, don't get stopped. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:19:19 PM EDT
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Check - we were taught to make sure the trunk was closed (Army MP), but leaving your prints in case something goes bad is also a good idea. Exactly the same although I pretty much only do it out of habit because what's keeping the person from pulling the trunk release after you pass by anyways? |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:20:44 PM EDT
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Meh. Wouldn't bother me.
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:21:51 PM EDT
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I'm waiting, just waiting, for some chest thumping 'murica Internet badass to come on here with his gold fringe all tangled up over this and bitch and squawk about how he'll take this up the food chain with complaints and cop should be out of a job Also 13 years on the job and I still do it. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:23:16 PM EDT
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It's common knowledge so the point is moot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No, it's really not. I've had cases break one way or another on a single finger print or less. It's common knowledge so the point is moot. I'd never heard of it, and I have ten plus years in law enforcement. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:25:01 PM EDT
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I have no issues what so ever with them doing this..of all the things to get all worked up over ...............this dont make the list!!
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:27:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prints on a car alone wouldn't be enough for even a charge. We get prints a lot of the time on recovered vehicles and without more evidence they rarely do much good....other than to know who to keep an eye out for. Plus there would be a record of the officer stopping the car. Sorry, I'm no fun at parties .Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm kinda surprised some dickhead hasn't reported his car stolen and made them dust for prints knowing who will show up. Prints on a car alone wouldn't be enough for even a charge. We get prints a lot of the time on recovered vehicles and without more evidence they rarely do much good....other than to know who to keep an eye out for. Plus there would be a record of the officer stopping the car. Sorry, I'm no fun at parties . |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:28:31 PM EDT
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looks like the usual crowd is already in here justifying it....
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:28:52 PM EDT
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Oh noes! a cop touched your car! Really don't have a problem with this. I've seen videos of K-9s scratching all over vehicles. I would have a problem with that. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:29:20 PM EDT
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looks like the usual crowd is already in here justifying it.... Disagree with it? |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:29:58 PM EDT
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I've seen videos of K-9s scratching all over vehicles. I would have a problem with that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh noes! a cop touched your car! Really don't have a problem with this. I've seen videos of K-9s scratching all over vehicles. I would have a problem with that. Cause its the same thing. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:31:08 PM EDT
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Check - we were taught to make sure the trunk was closed (Army MP), but leaving your prints in case something goes bad is also a good idea. Just what is the incidence of someone popping out of a trunk and shooting a cop? Trunk monkey owners only? |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:32:05 PM EDT
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good for them, dont break the fucking law and dont speed and they wont touch touch your car
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:32:28 PM EDT
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looks like the usual crowd is already in here justifying it....
Possibly I didn't have to wait long. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:33:13 PM EDT
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I'm not new....I still do it. Well when I actually do traffic....which is almost never. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Taught in some Academies. You can always tell the new guys cause that actually do it. I'm not new....I still do it. Well when I actually do traffic....which is almost never. Ever tried to pull a print off a taillight or trunk 12 hours later (much less more)? I wonder how likely a useable print can be pulled off the typical grungy car right after touching much less after a few hours or a day or two of exposure to wind, grit and sun (much less rain). Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:33:13 PM EDT
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Cop killers have been caught because of that trick. They are also checking to be sure the trunk is closed, and someone isn't going to pop out behind them. Seems to be a regional thing. I dont do it. Nobody I work with does it. But i know is very common some places. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:35:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cop killers have been caught because of that trick. They are also checking to be sure the trunk is closed, and someone isn't going to pop out behind them. |
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Posted: 11/24/2013 2:35:11 PM EDT
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Seems to be a regional thing. I dont do it. Nobody I work with does it. But i know is very common some places. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cop killers have been caught because of that trick. They are also checking to be sure the trunk is closed, and someone isn't going to pop out behind them. Seems to be a regional thing. I dont do it. Nobody I work with does it. But i know is very common some places. We weren't taught it in the St Louis academy but I learned it later in the AF. They must teach it in the area though because I see it frequently. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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