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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By 762minigun2:
Gonna be a few dead toddlers...

Huh? I think it would be easier for them to open. They can use their weight.

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Gonna be a few dead toddlers...

Huh? I think it would be easier for them to open. They can use their weight.



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I hate lever door handles.
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By 762minigun2:
Gonna be a few dead toddlers...


And dogs...

Seriously, who comes up with this shit? Do government officials wake up in the morning, make a cup of coffee, and ponder what trivial detail of our lives they can fuck with today?
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I've never seen the point of door knobs, not that they're common here anyway.
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I've never seen the point of door knobs, not that they're common here anyway.


That's because they are round.

Seriously though, what is so hard to grasp? Door is closed. Door stays closed until door knob is turned, at which point door is free to open until door is closed once again. It beats kicking down a door every time you need to drop a deuce but don't have time to remove the hinges.
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Cool, I can smuggle black market antique doorknobs up into Canada.


Originally Posted By swede1986:
I've never seen the point of door knobs, not that they're common here anyway.



Did Sweden get Star Trek doors, or are they trying some Euro-progressive Doorless Society?
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Posted: 11/18/2013 9:41:45 AM
Its for handicap access.
A person without a hand cannot turn a knob.
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Luchs:
Cool, I can smuggle black market antique doorknobs up into Canada.



Doorknobs in, Toilets out.

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I bet congress is already drafting legislation to follow suit. Can't let people choose doorknobs just like you can't let people choose their own light bulbs or toilets.


How are people supposed to put those plastic childproof sleeves over a door level? Is the government going to be held responsible for children getting into places they shouldn't now? Maybe they let themselves outside or drink some cleaner because of it. The government says they are forcing everyone to make their property open to everyone, so they should be held accountable for any accidents or deaths caused by it.
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By mag162:
Its for handicap access.
A person without a hand cannot turn a knob.



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Posted: 11/18/2013 9:48:51 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By GotGuns:
Originally Posted By 762minigun2:
Gonna be a few dead toddlers...


And dogs...

Seriously, who comes up with this shit? Do government officials wake up in the morning, make a cup of coffee, and ponder what trivial detail of our lives they can fuck with today?
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You know you're in trouble when a government takes the time, money and manpower to legislate doorknobs.

Some politicians are just plain fucking stupid.

Wait until Kalifornia gets a hold of this.
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By swede1986:
I've never seen the point of door knobs, not that they're common here anyway.


I honestly can't remember ever seeing one in Europe.

I have to admit, I like the lever thingies when my hands are full.
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
I've never seen the point of door knobs, not that they're common here anyway.


I honestly can't remember ever seeing one in Europe.

I have to admit, I like the lever thingies when my hands are full.

My wife and I bought a house in September, and replaced all the doors, trim, moldings, etc. We went with lever knobs on the new doors and they are a lot easier with full hands. Plus they look nice.

The cat is going to figure them out one of these days though.
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By GotGuns:
Originally Posted By 762minigun2:
Gonna be a few dead toddlers...


And dogs...

Seriously, who comes up with this shit? Do government officials wake up in the morning, make a cup of coffee, and ponder what trivial detail of our lives they can fuck with today?


Why, yes, that IS how most of the retarded regulations happen.

Those who "can", do. Those who "can't", go to work for the Government and make rules hindering those who "can".

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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By GotGuns:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
I've never seen the point of door knobs, not that they're common here anyway.


That's because they are round.

Seriously though, what is so hard to grasp? Door is closed. Door stays closed until door knob is turned, at which point door is free to open until door is closed once again. It beats kicking down a door every time you need to drop a deuce but don't have time to remove the hinges.

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Welcome to A.D.A. enforcement. That type of regulation is already here, the idea that all new construction should be handicap accessible. No steps on homes just ramps, lever doorknobs and faucets, and 3' interior doorways so that a handicapped person can just buy any home without shouldering the cost of those upgrades themselves.
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Luchs:
Cool, I can smuggle black market antique doorknobs up into Canada.


Originally Posted By swede1986:
I've never seen the point of door knobs, not that they're common here anyway.



Did Sweden get Star Trek doors, or are they trying some Euro-progressive Doorless Society?


We use normal door handles, just like everyone else.
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
I've never seen the point of door knobs, not that they're common here anyway.


I honestly can't remember ever seeing one in Europe.

I have to admit, I like the lever thingies when my hands are full.


I've seen it once in an old school building. It's practically non-existent.
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Damn, the Big Doorhandle lobby got to the Canadians now we can all look forward to Peak Doorknobs in a few years as supplies dry up
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. Allen Joslyn, president of the Antique Door Knob Collectors of America, a nonprofit devoted to studying and preserving ornamental doorknobs, wonders if Vancouver went too far in implementing its newfound ban.




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Damn, the Big Doorhandle lobby got to the Canadians now we can all look forward to Peak Doorknobs in a few years as supplies dry up


It's the first step towards joining the EU.
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If that ever comes here, I predict lots of exploding heads in registered historic districts.

ETA: Maybe it can be resolved with cage matches, which would be entertaining. Watching the "You can't change anything!" crowd do battle with the "You have to modernize!" crowd.
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wont be long before one of the usual makes it into the thread saying how this is a good thing
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By BushBoar:
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
I've never seen the point of door knobs, not that they're common here anyway.


That's because they are round.

Seriously though, what is so hard to grasp? Door is closed. Door stays closed until door knob is turned, at which point door is free to open until door is closed once again. It beats kicking down a door every time you need to drop a deuce but don't have time to remove the hinges.

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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By mag162:
Its for handicap access.
A person without a hand cannot turn a knob.

Then that person is free to spend their own money installing door hardware that suits their needs.

I actually had lever doors all over my house and went and changed them all to knobs around the time my kid started standing and walking around a bit on his own. He still has difficulty with knobs but can open a lever handle door like nobody's business.

This is a *stupid* prohibition/regulation.
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By Luchs:
Cool, I can smuggle black market antique doorknobs up into Canada.


Originally Posted By swede1986:
I've never seen the point of door knobs, not that they're common here anyway.



Did Sweden get Star Trek doors, or are they trying some Euro-progressive Doorless Society?


We use normal door handles, just like everyone else.


But, less opportunities to lord over lower animals without opposable thumbs. It's a trade-off, really.
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By mag162:
Its for handicap access.
A person without a hand cannot turn a knob.


Levers are easier for old folks and arthritics to manipulate. Dogs, too, and at one time our tom cat would have pulled the lever on our back door if he could reach it.

Anyway, Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming and I'm surprised it didn't hit the books sooner. Maybe the door knob industry has taken note of the electrical industry's constant churning of the electrical code as a means to incorporate more and more marginal "improvements" in the name of safety.

In the mean time, historical districts all over the US will require round door knobs on the outside of exterior doors in all cases, and in all doors in the structure in some cases.

There's a market opportunity here for a hybrid door knob with a round knob on the outside, a lever on the inside, and a clever mechanism to bypass the round door knob to maintain ADA compliance. But the real money will be in getting the requirement for this knob into the building code.



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I've never seen the point of door knobs, not that they're common here anyway.



Please tell me it is not because no one can figure them out? Please... I have Swedish genes in me
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Ah, Vancouver. As I recall, technically that city requires you to have a construction permit to change a light bulb.
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Mastadon:
If that ever comes here, I predict lots of exploding heads in registered historic districts.

ETA: Maybe it can be resolved with cage matches, which would be entertaining. Watching the "You can't change anything!" crowd do battle with the "You have to modernize!" crowd.


Seeing as how they are only talking about permits for new construction, I'm not sure this would be an issue.

I guess they'll have to go after keys and traditional locks, next.
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Would this include exterior doors for areas overlapping bear habitat?

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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By GotGuns:
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Gonna be a few dead toddlers...


And dogs...

Seriously, who comes up with this shit? Do government officials wake up in the morning, make a cup of coffee, and ponder what trivial detail of our lives they can fuck with today?

Pretty much yeah....
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Meh... For interior doors, fine. Though I've ruined several good pairs of pants by catching the god damn lever handle in the pocket as I hip hold the door open.
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
I've never seen the point of door knobs, not that they're common here anyway.


That's because they are round.

Seriously though, what is so hard to grasp? Door is closed. Door stays closed until door knob is turned, at which point door is free to open until door is closed once again. It beats kicking down a door every time you need to drop a deuce but don't have time to remove the hinges.

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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By GotGuns:
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Gonna be a few dead toddlers...


And dogs...

Seriously, who comes up with this shit? Do government officials wake up in the morning, make a cup of coffee, and ponder what trivial detail of our lives they can fuck with today?


Exactly. My wife in our old house replaced all the door knobs with levers. The dogs loved it! They could open up every room.
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I've never seen the point of door knobs, not that they're common here anyway.



Please tell me it is not because no one can figure them out? Please... I have Swedish genes in me


Oh we know how to use them, we're just smart enough to use regular door handles.
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Makes good sense. Half of Canadians have flippers instead of hands.
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You send us some quality shitters and we will send you some good lever handled door knobs.
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wont be long before one of the usual makes it into the thread saying how this is a good thing


I will welcome our new overlords and their lever regulations once the "sequester" "reduces" the defense budget and they invade.
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it is Vancouver, any homeowner that wants a door knob will probably just put one on, can't dictate what an owner does, just what the builder does
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I've never seen the point of door knobs, not that they're common here anyway.



Please tell me it is not because no one can figure them out? Please... I have Swedish genes in me


Oh we know how to use them, we're just smart enough to use regular door handles.

Good scared me for a minute...
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Gonna be a few dead toddlers...


And dogs...

Seriously, who comes up with this shit? Do government officials wake up in the morning, make a cup of coffee, and ponder what trivial detail of our lives they can fuck with today?


Exactly. My wife in our old house replaced all the door knobs with levers. The dogs loved it! They could open up every room.



Us too. The fuckers cant get out of the way in an orderly fashion. They can open any door knob that isn't round and the latch on the gate of the deck.

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