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Damn it I travel to NYC on that day
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Ahhhh......no.

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"Simulate"
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Posted: 10/31/2013 9:19:17 AM
simulate, who cares. no it will not be shutdown
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Posted: 10/31/2013 9:20:53 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Shenanigunz:
"Simulate"


Hey they arrested Jim Morrison for a Simulation........

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Posted: 10/31/2013 9:26:42 AM
So, nothing ever goes sideways when the .Gov conducts a drill?

Very well....carry on.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 9:26:54 AM
What a brilliant idea.

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Posted: 10/31/2013 9:30:40 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot:
So, nothing ever goes sideways when the .Gov conducts a drill?

Very well....carry on.


name a computer simulation where something like that has occurred.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 9:32:27 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot:
So, nothing ever goes sideways when the .Gov conducts a drill?

Very well....carry on.


name a computer simulation where something like that has occurred.
Two weeks ago, XEROX "tested" the EBT system and crashed it......
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Posted: 10/31/2013 9:32:40 AM
If Alex Jones doesn't say so, it ain't so.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 9:33:33 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot:
So, nothing ever goes sideways when the .Gov conducts a drill?

Very well....carry on.


name a computer simulation where something like that has occurred.


What about the award winning documentary WarGames?
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Posted: 10/31/2013 9:35:28 AM
I saw this show already. The penthouse couple dies, there is an elevator, and the daughter's bf gives away food.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 9:39:00 AM
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot:
So, nothing ever goes sideways when the .Gov conducts a drill?

Very well....carry on.


name a computer simulation where something like that has occurred.
Two weeks ago, XEROX "tested" the EBT system and crashed it......


you realize the power grid simulation is not on the production system, right? also there are 1000's of private power companies involved. there is no "national" power grid.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 9:39:29 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By CozumelSteve:
I saw this show already. The penthouse couple dies, there is an elevator, and the daughter's bf gives away food.
That show on NatGeo was to desensitize you.....
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Posted: 10/31/2013 9:42:09 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By CozumelSteve:
I saw this show already. The penthouse couple dies, there is an elevator, and the daughter's bf gives away food.

My mind went to the same place
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Posted: 10/31/2013 9:47:05 AM
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Posted: 10/31/2013 9:47:18 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

you realize the power grid simulation is not on the production system, right? also there are 1000's of private power companies involved. there is no "national" power grid.


I have a couple of coworkers who were telling me about this "whole power shutdown test" and I thought about the same thing you stated above. It would be very hard to shut down every power plant across the nation.
Maybe these people believe all the power comes from one place.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 9:54:26 AM
All the Northeast has to do to have a massive power outage is have one main transmission line go down again that overloads and trips out all the others, unless they fixed it after last time.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 10:01:22 AM
Texas has it's own power grid
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Don't worry chicken little. We do black start drills often.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 10:08:38 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Southernman077:
All the Northeast has to do to have a massive power outage is have one main transmission line go down again that overloads and trips out all the others, unless they fixed it after last time.


hell one good snow and it's down in most places. don't even have to hit a main.

the biggest issue with local power grids is infrastructure rot. pockets may be easy targets but knocking out an entire state long term would not be easy.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 10:28:33 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Kylej86:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

you realize the power grid simulation is not on the production system, right? also there are 1000's of private power companies involved. there is no "national" power grid.


I have a couple of coworkers who were telling me about this "whole power shutdown test" and I thought about the same thing you stated above. It would be very hard to shut down every power plant across the nation.
Maybe these people believe all the power comes from one place.
I've been an electrician for 24 years...I am pretty damn sure I understand the whole power generation and distribution scenario...

All the article states is "150 power companies" will be paticipating....doesn't say who, or what states....but a company like First Energy maintains parts of the grid from Ohio to New Jersey...
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Posted: 10/31/2013 10:35:09 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Southernman077:
All the Northeast has to do to have a massive power outage is have one main transmission line go down again that overloads and trips out all the others, unless they fixed it after last time.


2003 northeast blackout with the SUCK. It was hot as hell.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 10:43:20 AM
It was not the whole Northeast.



DC line from Hydro Quebec here, plus Seabrook reactor.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 10:44:10 AM
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Kylej86:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

you realize the power grid simulation is not on the production system, right? also there are 1000's of private power companies involved. there is no "national" power grid.


I have a couple of coworkers who were telling me about this "whole power shutdown test" and I thought about the same thing you stated above. It would be very hard to shut down every power plant across the nation.
Maybe these people believe all the power comes from one place.


Doesn't this go back to the idea of a grid?

If one goes down, the rest pick up the slack, but if several go down and the maximum load is reached, either lines overheat trying to supply all the areas, or certain areas just get switched off.

Right?

The computers are "supposed" to know what to do.

My refrigerator is still fucked up from our "rolling blackouts".

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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Luchs:
It was not the whole Northeast.

http://jcwinnie.biz/wordpress/imageSnag/TheBlackout-8-14-03.jpg

DC line from Hydro Quebec here, plus Seabrook reactor.



Well in the CT/NY area is SUCKED lol
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Badlatitude:
Originally Posted By Luchs:
It was not the whole Northeast.

http://jcwinnie.biz/wordpress/imageSnag/TheBlackout-8-14-03.jpg

DC line from Hydro Quebec here, plus Seabrook reactor.



Well in the CT/NY area is SUCKED lol


got my ham ticket that afternoon....


just in time too



I doubt anything's gonna happen.... in for the riots if it does though
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot:
Originally Posted By Kylej86:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

you realize the power grid simulation is not on the production system, right? also there are 1000's of private power companies involved. there is no "national" power grid.


I have a couple of coworkers who were telling me about this "whole power shutdown test" and I thought about the same thing you stated above. It would be very hard to shut down every power plant across the nation.
Maybe these people believe all the power comes from one place.
I've been an electrician for 24 years...I am pretty damn sure I understand the whole power generation and distribution scenario...

All the article states is "150 power companies" will be paticipating....doesn't say who, or what states....but a company like First Energy maintains parts of the grid from Ohio to New Jersey...


then you above all people should know this is a non event
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By CozumelSteve:
I saw this show already. The penthouse couple dies, there is an elevator, and the daughter's bf gives away food.


I would of shot that kid.
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By joemama74:
Originally Posted By Kylej86:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

you realize the power grid simulation is not on the production system, right? also there are 1000's of private power companies involved. there is no "national" power grid.


I have a couple of coworkers who were telling me about this "whole power shutdown test" and I thought about the same thing you stated above. It would be very hard to shut down every power plant across the nation.
Maybe these people believe all the power comes from one place.


Doesn't this go back to the idea of a grid?

If one goes down, the rest pick up the slack, but if several go down and the maximum load is reached, either lines overheat trying to supply all the areas, or certain areas just get switched off.

Right?

The computers are "supposed" to know what to do.

My refrigerator is still fucked up from our "rolling blackouts".



yes to an extent. Alabama will not be powering california. washing state will not be powering new jersey. the grid pieces can also be isolated to prevent such things.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 11:03:09 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Luchs:
It was not the whole Northeast.

http://jcwinnie.biz/wordpress/imageSnag/TheBlackout-8-14-03.jpg

DC line from Hydro Quebec here, plus Seabrook reactor.


Wow Canadians sure go to bed early.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 12:26:21 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot:
So, nothing ever goes sideways when the .Gov conducts a drill?

Very well....carry on.


Does this simulation involve computers or the interweb? Yeah, worry.
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Weren't they trying this at Chernobyl when things went sideways?
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Posted: 10/31/2013 12:38:15 PM
13th? Ill be at work. Will not be affected.

Three of these will keep me warm.

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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Luchs:
It was not the whole Northeast.

http://jcwinnie.biz/wordpress/imageSnag/TheBlackout-8-14-03.jpg

DC line from Hydro Quebec here, plus Seabrook reactor.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/space/blackout.asp
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Posted: 10/31/2013 12:41:08 PM
My company will be participating (PJM). It will not effect real time operations. It is simply a drill
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Posted: 10/31/2013 12:42:12 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
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So, nothing ever goes sideways when the .Gov conducts a drill?

Very well....carry on.


name a computer simulation where something like that has occurred.


No silly, it's a TV show called "Revolution"


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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Apache8075:
Weren't they trying this at Chernobyl when things went sideways?


Now I'm picturing a software error causing a reactor to decide it's lost external power and go into SCRAM.

All those control rods slamming down at once, anyone on the floor will need to change their pants.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 12:48:23 PM
Will my Obamaphone stop working?

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Is this going to be worse than Y2K?
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Luchs:
It was not the whole Northeast.

http://jcwinnie.biz/wordpress/imageSnag/TheBlackout-8-14-03.jpg

DC line from Hydro Quebec here, plus Seabrook reactor.

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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Badlatitude:
Originally Posted By Luchs:
It was not the whole Northeast.

http://jcwinnie.biz/wordpress/imageSnag/TheBlackout-8-14-03.jpg

DC line from Hydro Quebec here, plus Seabrook reactor.



Well in the CT/NY area is SUCKED lol

I was living in northwestern CT at the time, near Torrington. Never lost power.
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Plenty of power generation and fuel to keep the well humming along for weeks (or months if I'm careful).

Don't really need electricity for anything else but the fridges and freezers. And those don't use much.


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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Kylej86:
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you realize the power grid simulation is not on the production system, right? also there are 1000's of private power companies involved. there is no "national" power grid.


I have a couple of coworkers who were telling me about this "whole power shutdown test" and I thought about the same thing you stated above. It would be very hard to shut down every power plant across the nation.
Maybe these people believe all the power comes from one place.

I work at a power plant and one of my coworkers thinks the same thing. But then again, his name is Knight and he doesn't know the P in pneumatic is silent.

Stupid people are an endless source of entertainment.
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By WilliamGray:
13th? Ill be at work. Will not be affected.

Three of these will keep me warm.

https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/224890_3790999425724_848069811_n.jpg

I've got you beat-

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I was supposed to be in NYC that day and I just canceled the trip prior to seeing this.
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Luchs:
It was not the whole Northeast.

http://jcwinnie.biz/wordpress/imageSnag/TheBlackout-8-14-03.jpg



I was in a pocket of Ohio that had power during that, even the plant where I worked. Oddly enough, the line that caused it all was only 20 miles away.

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Posted: 10/31/2013 3:16:36 PM
Fuck the lot of ya... I'm off grid... No fucks given.
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We lost power here at the building for about 15 seconds. Too bad those fuckers don't know about our triple-redundant UPS and generators with automatic failover.

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