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Posted: 10/26/2013 2:24:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/26/2013 2:33:46 PM EDT by Beyond_Visual_Range]
Looking at getting a new LCD TV. It looks like the new rage is SmartTV, or 3D TV. The price for 3D isn't that different from other non3D TV.

I'm mainly looking at the passive kind, where it uses the colored glasses like movie theater, not the kind with active shutter glasses. Those active kinds are quite a bit more money.

For those that have 3D TV, do you actually use the 3D features? or just a fad you use just once? Also how well does it do the 3D? The movie theater 3D seems to work alright every time I went to see a movie.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:25:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/26/2013 2:26:26 PM EDT by edcurtis]
I have a 3D TV and have only used it once.

I played one game of COD Black Ops and hated it.

ETA: Mine has active shutter glasses
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:31:00 PM EDT
Do not waste the extra money on 3d. Just get a smart TV. (you can still get 3D content on a non 3D TV)
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:31:32 PM EDT
Not really.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:35:21 PM EDT
I own a high-end 3D led-lcd TV and a plasma from the same manufacturer but about 3 years older.

Everything looks MUCH better on the plasma, I really don't like LCD at all, 3D isn't worth anything.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:38:51 PM EDT
3d is a gimmick.

Plasma TV's >>> LED.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:40:28 PM EDT
The faster processor found in most 3D sets helps with other things too, but the 3D itself seems to be a passing fad. Especially with 4k sets coming out, with the higher resolution the 3D really isn't needed. Very little compelling 3D content anyway.

Not sure if anyone other than LG is using passive glasses.

Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:41:54 PM EDT
Put your money into a 4K TV.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:52:42 PM EDT
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Or you can wait until the prices come down on that technology.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:56:44 PM EDT
I have a Samsung 3D led I got last year during black Friday sale. It was a free upgrage due to the tv I wanted being out of stock. I have never used the 3D function and no rental serices that i know of carry any 3D titles. So I would say not worth it unless the store upgrades you to one at no extra cost
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:59:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By maleante:
3d is a gimmick.

Plasma TV's >>> LED.
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Then how come every time I go to the stores, side by side the LED's blow away the plasmas?
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:00:23 PM EDT
No.
Invest in a simple panny plasma
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:01:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wolfstar:


Then how come every time I go to the stores, side by side the LED's blow away the plasmas?
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Originally Posted By wolfstar:
Originally Posted By maleante:
3d is a gimmick.

Plasma TV's >>> LED.


Then how come every time I go to the stores, side by side the LED's blow away the plasmas?

Probably because your in a store.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:01:10 PM EDT
SmartTV isn't the same as 3D. 3D is 3D, SmartTV means the TV can run apps like Netflix or Pandora.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:01:46 PM EDT
There is very little content available for 3D right now, and there probably won't really be. It can be pretty neat though. There might be 150 3D blu-rays or so, and only about 1/2 are worth watching. There was a 3D channel, but I don't think it's active anymore.

That being said, 4K is even worse. There is no 4k content. Most 4k "movies" are really just upscaled 1080p stuff. Not a lot of native 4k stuff out there. Heck, the technology to put it on a disc isn't even finalized yet.

Buying a 4k TV now would be pretty silly. 3D TV would be OK if you have the money and like the novelty and experience of 3D. But don't expect oodles of content either way.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:04:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/26/2013 3:05:51 PM EDT by macman37]
It's a nifty nice to have feature but i've had one for a year and have watched only one 3D movie with it. Pacific Rim, and it was pretty cool.

That said, i wouldn't pay extra for it. I prefer crystal-clear pictures over clear enough and 3D.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:04:42 PM EDT
My led television is awesome.

But I've only ever used the 3D once. The glasses have been sitting in the drawer for years now.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:05:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wolfstar:
Originally Posted By maleante:
3d is a gimmick.

Plasma TV's >>> LED.


Then how come every time I go to the stores, side by side the LED's blow away the plasmas?

Probably because your in a store.



Yeah, go on.....
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:06:10 PM EDT
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Better do it fast. Panasonic is getting out of plasma tv business in the next few months.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:10:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/26/2013 3:18:48 PM EDT by ProfGAB101]
We have a Vizio 32" with 3D and a Samsung 42" without. You will also need a real 3D capable Blu-Ray player, I got the matching Vizio player and as a package it rocks.

Can't tell any difference most of the time ( Broadcast TV, DVD's etc.) , BUT when you get QUALITY 3D material its fantastic.

The problem is there is so little Quality 3D content out there.

Avatar was great in 3D
Transformers # 3 was also
John Carter of Mars
How to train your Dragon

I will buy the 3D version of Gravity when it comes out.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:22:49 PM EDT
No. I have a 70" 3D LED TV and I can count on one hand the number of times I have watched anything in 3D. I've even played games in 3D on the Xbox and that wasn't worth the trouble either.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:25:44 PM EDT
LED is worth it. It's way more clear. I have an LCD, LED, and plasma. LED wins every time.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:05:44 PM EDT
If yuo will use 3d get the LG cheaper passive glasses, awesome picture,and will convert 2d to 3d pretty well on newer video.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:13:05 PM EDT
went from a plasma to an LED.... having tuned both tv's with some of the tech forums settings, will NOT be going back to plasma... the LED is superior in my opinion. I have 3d also, its ok to watch some of my sons movies in 3d, but it wouldn't be a deal breaker on my next tv.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:14:39 PM EDT
It depends on if you like 3D or not. I love it for GTA5.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:16:52 PM EDT
I have a LG 3D LCD Smart TV and it's great, beside the fact that I have found no use for the 3D beside a headache.

Smart TV's are great and I'll probably never buy another that's not, but 3D is just a gimmick like HDDVD was
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:17:03 PM EDT
I just bought a new TV last week and went in trying to decide between a 3D LED and non-3D. The 3D was cheaper (Sharp Aquos). I realized that I never watch 3D TV, don't watch 3D movies outside of theatres, don't have a 3D Bluray player, etc.

It's a neat feature to have once or twice, but it's not something you'll use very often.

I say go for 2D.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:24:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wolfstar:
Originally Posted By maleante:
3d is a gimmick.

Plasma TV's >>> LED.


Then how come every time I go to the stores, side by side the LED's blow away the plasmas?


because the technicians adjust the sets to make the one they WANT to sell look better, not the same as the one that CAN look better if adjusted properly.

Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:24:45 PM EDT
I have no use for the current 3D technology.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:31:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wolfstar:
Originally Posted By maleante:
3d is a gimmick.

Plasma TV's >>> LED.


Then how come every time I go to the stores, side by side the LED's blow away the plasmas?

Probably because your in a store.



Yeah, go on.....


They setup the lcd's to look better than the plasma's. Bright store, so they jack up the brightness on the tv's (may also use the "vivid" picture mode/setting). LCD's are brighter than plasma's, so the willl look better in that scenario.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:33:28 PM EDT
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They setup the lcd's to look better than the plasma's. Bright store, so they jack up the brightness on the tv's (may also use the "vivid" picture mode/setting). LCD's are brighter than plasma's, so the willl look better in that scenario.
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Originally Posted By wolfstar:
Originally Posted By woofum:
Originally Posted By wolfstar:
Originally Posted By maleante:
3d is a gimmick.

Plasma TV's >>> LED.


Then how come every time I go to the stores, side by side the LED's blow away the plasmas?

Probably because your in a store.



Yeah, go on.....


They setup the lcd's to look better than the plasma's. Bright store, so they jack up the brightness on the tv's (may also use the "vivid" picture mode/setting). LCD's are brighter than plasma's, so the willl look better in that scenario.


I have a LED and a Plasma at home. LED is way better. The picture is like real life.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:36:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/26/2013 5:37:08 PM EDT by AZ_Sky]
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Originally Posted By 501st:


They setup the lcd's to look better than the plasma's. Bright store, so they jack up the brightness on the tv's (may also use the "vivid" picture mode/setting). LCD's are brighter than plasma's, so the willl look better in that scenario.
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Originally Posted By wolfstar:
Originally Posted By woofum:
Originally Posted By wolfstar:
Originally Posted By maleante:
3d is a gimmick.

Plasma TV's >>> LED.


Then how come every time I go to the stores, side by side the LED's blow away the plasmas?

Probably because your in a store.



Yeah, go on.....


They setup the lcd's to look better than the plasma's. Bright store, so they jack up the brightness on the tv's (may also use the "vivid" picture mode/setting). LCD's are brighter than plasma's, so the willl look better in that scenario.


I'm trying to not sound snobby but anyone who thinks that a typical LED TV in a big box store looks better than a plasma is obviously not a videophile...

LCD/LED looks phony, plasma looks real!
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:40:30 PM EDT
Bought a 3d LG LED that came with six sets of passive glasses. Original 3d Bluray material looks awesome, but the converted material not so good. When I take the kids to a 3d movie at the theater, we keep the glasses, especially the kid size ones as they work really well. We've watched a few 3d movies with no ill effect. I buy all the Pixar 3d movie disc packages mainly to use the DVD in our minivan and keep the others inside. I did not even entertain the idea of active shutter glasses as my boys love destroying shit.

Vizio also uses passive, i think.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:44:31 PM EDT
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I prefer the picture on plasmas, but trying finding a 70 or 80 inch plasma. (And if you could, it would put out so much heat it could double as a space heater.)

My TV is 3D, and 3D Blu-Rays actually look pretty damn cool, but it's still kind of a gimmick, AFAIC.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:45:32 PM EDT
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They setup the lcd's to look better than the plasma's. Bright store, so they jack up the brightness on the tv's (may also use the "vivid" picture mode/setting). LCD's are brighter than plasma's, so the willl look better in that scenario.

I'm trying to not sound snobby but anyone who thinks that a typical LED TV in a big box store looks better than a plasma is obviously not a videophile...

LCD/LED looks phony, plasma looks real!
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Granted plasma does look good, BUT they put off a lot of heat. After awhile, my LED looks really good with any HD material. If i watched it beside a plasma, I might notice a difference, but LED is very capable. What gives it the artificial look is the refresh. Mine is set at 60 hz (more natural for movies), but is capable of 120hz which is real good for TV/cable material.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:48:17 PM EDT
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Granted plasma does look good, BUT they put off a lot of heat. After awhile, my LED looks really good with any HD material. If i watched it beside a plasma, I might notice a difference, but LED is very capable. What gives it the artificial look is the refresh. Mine is set at 60 hz (more natural for movies), but is capable of 120hz which is real good for TV/cable material.
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They setup the lcd's to look better than the plasma's. Bright store, so they jack up the brightness on the tv's (may also use the "vivid" picture mode/setting). LCD's are brighter than plasma's, so the willl look better in that scenario.

I'm trying to not sound snobby but anyone who thinks that a typical LED TV in a big box store looks better than a plasma is obviously not a videophile...

LCD/LED looks phony, plasma looks real!


Granted plasma does look good, BUT they put off a lot of heat. After awhile, my LED looks really good with any HD material. If i watched it beside a plasma, I might notice a difference, but LED is very capable. What gives it the artificial look is the refresh. Mine is set at 60 hz (more natural for movies), but is capable of 120hz which is real good for TV/cable material.


I don't know why people still say this...
Maybe in the old days of plasma but I have two plasma sets, a 58" and a 50" I don't notice any appreciable heat coming off them....
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:07:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/26/2013 6:10:24 PM EDT by retroangles]
we picked up an lG 3D LCD 42in for $1100 two years ago. It uses the same glasses that the movies use (Passive?). I wouldn't want the glasses that are powered (Active?) as they are expensive and not easy to come by! Plus I did not notice any benefit in picture clarity.

we run a PS3 as our 3D receiver.

The only downside is the current cost of 3D movies ($30+), although we have found some deals in the sub $15 level.

I highly recommend 3D! Especially if you view DVD's regularly.

its unbelievable!

ETA/ Our Plasma took a dump about 1.5 years from new. It sucked ass, and was the biggest mistake we ever made in electronics. LCD is the way to go! Doesn't generate near the heat plasma did.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:14:22 PM EDT
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I don't know why people still say this...
Maybe in the old days of plasma but I have two plasma sets, a 58" and a 50" I don't notice any appreciable heat coming off them....
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Originally Posted By Sgt_Fish:


They setup the lcd's to look better than the plasma's. Bright store, so they jack up the brightness on the tv's (may also use the "vivid" picture mode/setting). LCD's are brighter than plasma's, so the willl look better in that scenario.

I'm trying to not sound snobby but anyone who thinks that a typical LED TV in a big box store looks better than a plasma is obviously not a videophile...

LCD/LED looks phony, plasma looks real!


Granted plasma does look good, BUT they put off a lot of heat. After awhile, my LED looks really good with any HD material. If i watched it beside a plasma, I might notice a difference, but LED is very capable. What gives it the artificial look is the refresh. Mine is set at 60 hz (more natural for movies), but is capable of 120hz which is real good for TV/cable material.


I don't know why people still say this...
Maybe in the old days of plasma but I have two plasma sets, a 58" and a 50" I don't notice any appreciable heat coming off them....


Nope, my late father had a 58" Panasonic and 42" panasonic bought within last 4-5 years. The heat is very noticeable after a lengthy viewing period.
In south Ga, we don't need the extra heat!!
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:15:28 PM EDT
I've got a 3D plasma that I bought 4 months ago.

Gaming in 3D will make you disoriented and/or sick it's so extreme.

1080i porn in 3D just makes you feel uncomfortable. Like you might get some on you. Yes, it's that fucking real looking.




Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:19:49 PM EDT
ESPN dropped their 3D broadcasting. That should tell you where that technology is going.

Kharn
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:23:42 PM EDT
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Ok, you sold me on 3D just right there.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:33:01 PM EDT
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I'm trying to not sound snobby but anyone who thinks that a typical LED TV in a big box store looks better than a plasma is obviously not a videophile...

LCD/LED looks phony, plasma looks real!
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I think you sound like a photographer in 2001 that claims digital cameras will never come close to the picture quality of film.
And I didn't say Typical LED TV.. But there are better LED TV's than plasma TVs.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 5:42:05 PM EDT
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I think you sound like a photographer in 2001 that claims digital cameras will never come close to the picture quality of film.
And I didn't say Typical LED TV.. But there are better LED TV's than plasma TVs.
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Originally Posted By AZ_Sky:


I'm trying to not sound snobby but anyone who thinks that a typical LED TV in a big box store looks better than a plasma is obviously not a videophile...

LCD/LED looks phony, plasma looks real!



I think you sound like a photographer in 2001 that claims digital cameras will never come close to the picture quality of film.
And I didn't say Typical LED TV.. But there are better LED TV's than plasma TVs.


Yes but in large screens they are un-afordable to the normal man compared to a lower priced plasma....
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 5:42:39 PM EDT
I would say no.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 6:07:24 PM EDT
It was a fad. It's dead jim.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 6:31:40 PM EDT
The price of the 3d tv's has dropped alot. The content is kind of limited, but it's amazing to watch. I've had both passive and active. Active is the way to go. The gf just bought a samsung smart 3d tv. The picture is amazing, and the active 3d looks fantastic from any angle.

The problem with the passive 3d is two-fold. You lose half of the resolution because every other line of pixels is for one eye. So half of the tv's resolution is given to one eye. It still looks pretty good, but not as crisp as the active 3d. The other problem is that you really have to be in a "sweet spot" to get the best effect. We have a small living room and it's hard to get in that spot, especially more than one person. With the active 3d I can walk around the room and still see the 3d effect. After a couple days of having the active I would never go back to the passive.

I had read that the active glasses were harder on the eyes, but I've had the opposite experience. The polarization of the passive glasses made my eyes feel weird, the active glasses really don't. The active glasses have gotten cheaper and more lightweight too. The ones that came with our samsung run about $20 a pair for additional glasses.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 6:33:52 PM EDT
I just re-watched some of the action scenes in Pacific Rim in 2D HD. I found the action in 2D far easier to follow than 3D. The 3D was cool, but ended up being a bit of a distraction/gimmick to me.

I'm not sure I'll be springing the extra cash for a 3D Blu Ray anymore.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 6:34:10 PM EDT
I have a 3D plasma tv i use it all the time direct tv has a few channels in 3D and I buy all the 3D blu rays I can
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 6:35:11 PM EDT
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I think you sound like a photographer in 2001 that claims digital cameras will never come close to the picture quality of film.
And I didn't say Typical LED TV.. But there are better LED TV's than plasma TVs.
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I'm trying to not sound snobby but anyone who thinks that a typical LED TV in a big box store looks better than a plasma is obviously not a videophile...

LCD/LED looks phony, plasma looks real!



I think you sound like a photographer in 2001 that claims digital cameras will never come close to the picture quality of film.
And I didn't say Typical LED TV.. But there are better LED TV's than plasma TVs.


My new samsung smart led looks way better than my samsung plasma did. Less pixelated looking. It has micro dimming too which gives it amazing contrast.
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You either bought a shit plasma, or didn't calibrate it properly. Or you could be one of those oddballs that likes an overly bright, oversaturated unrealistic picture.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 6:36:31 PM EDT
I have a passive 3d tv, I love it. I have a couple dozen 3d blu rays. Fios had a olympic 3d channel last year. I can also get 3d content from HBO on demand.
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