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Posted: 10/4/2013 7:57:26 PM EST
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Posted: 10/4/2013 9:46:27 PM EST
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Doesn't anyone have problem with the fact that the Bloomberg police received over 200 911 calls about the gang. <= I'm quoting the commissioner himself.
But not one cop car showed up to do something before the gang started doing stupid Sh*t and things got out of hand?

I'm glad I don't live in NYC...Nice job Bloomberg! Keep up with your anti-gun crusade and we'll see how that goes.
Incompetent police commissioner, even let the thug punching the car window go...stating he was trying to help the wife and kids.

Say, Wouldn't pulling the fellow biker away from the SUV be more helpful? I don't see how punching car window would help...
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Hi suntex01, welcome to arfcom.
The response times for the west side hwy are pretty slow. I live several blocks south of where the initial collision occurred. My living room and terrace face the highway, and I often hear collisions late at night (mostly weekends, i.e. drunks), look out the window and call 911. It usually take 10 min. or so before emergency vehicles start showing up. And thats late at night, with almost no cars on the road.

Regarding the biker who punched the driver's side rear window, it has been suggested here that he probably rolled on his buddies in exchange for not being charged.

As for "trying to help", I believe you are talking about the atty for the guy who got paralyzed, Jay MeeZee, she claimed he was trying to help the downed biker at the orig. collision scene, not trying to assault Mr. Lien. Mr. MeeZee has a criminal record going back 20 years, (he's only 30-something, IIRC) so I'd take that with a grain of salt.
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Posted: 10/4/2013 10:12:07 PM EST
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Just saw on my local news, there were 5 NYPD cops in the group of bikers, and "several" corrections officers. 2 of them were off-duty detectives, who witnessed the beating in wash. hgts., and did not attempt to stop it.

Also, Mr helmet-smash, Reginald Chance, just turned himself in to the 33rd pct.
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Posted: 10/5/2013 1:16:06 AM EST
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Just saw on my local news, there were 5 NYPD cops in the group of bikers, and "several" corrections officers. 2 of them were off-duty detectives, who witnessed the beating in wash. hgts., and did not attempt to stop it.
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Not surprising.
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Posted: 10/5/2013 1:17:55 AM EST
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Originally Posted By suntex01:
Doesn't anyone have problem with the fact that the Bloomberg police received over 200 911 calls about the gang. <= I'm quoting the commissioner himself.
But not one cop car showed up to do something before the gang started doing stupid Sh*t and things got out of hand?
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Cops had already received calls about the group and made arrests earlier that day. They also seized 55 bikes that day.
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Posted: 10/5/2013 1:25:20 AM EST
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Originally Posted By phb1gt:
Just saw on my local news, there were 5 NYPD cops in the group of bikers, and "several" corrections officers. 2 of them were off-duty detectives, who witnessed the beating in wash. hgts., and did not attempt to stop it.

Not surprising.



It just seems so obvious that, if you hang out w/ dudes like this, and SHTF, even if you're totally innocent of any wrong-doing, your name is still gonna get dragged through the papers. It just seems like a really Bad Idea to expose yourself to that kind of scrutiny unnecessarily.
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Posted: 10/5/2013 1:25:37 AM EST
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If he was undercover that day he would not have been off duty, would have done something, calling in back up and he would not have waited three days to inform his superiors. Thug biker cop, fessed up when he got scared he would be IDed.
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Off duty participants, bystanders, or undercover agents is the question to be answered. If they are members of these criminal gangs, they should be fired or even charged appropriately.

These are not exactly happy go lucky motorcycle clubs.

I love this part:

"He didn’t want to blow his cover,” said the source — though the cop was not investigating the group of bikers.

Yea riiiiight asshole.

If he was really an undercover cop on duty, as one would be in such a situation, then he should of intervened. But I am going to guess he wasn't.
If he was undercover that day he would not have been off duty, would have done something, calling in back up and he would not have waited three days to inform his superiors. Thug biker cop, fessed up when he got scared he would be IDed.



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Posted: 10/5/2013 2:02:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By phb1gt:

It just seems so obvious that, if you hang out w/ dudes like this, and SHTF, even if you're totally innocent of any wrong-doing, your name is still gonna get dragged through the papers. It just seems like a really Bad Idea to expose yourself to that kind of scrutiny unnecessarily.
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Originally Posted By phb1gt:
Just saw on my local news, there were 5 NYPD cops in the group of bikers, and "several" corrections officers. 2 of them were off-duty detectives, who witnessed the beating in wash. hgts., and did not attempt to stop it.

Not surprising.

It just seems so obvious that, if you hang out w/ dudes like this, and SHTF, even if you're totally innocent of any wrong-doing, your name is still gonna get dragged through the papers. It just seems like a really Bad Idea to expose yourself to that kind of scrutiny unnecessarily.

I meant that they didn't get involved. NYPD doesn't have the best track record for how it treats officers who get involved off-duty. They shouldn't be surprised that the cops didn't help.
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Posted: 10/5/2013 2:07:15 AM EST
The unidentified officer waited three days to come forward Wednesday night. He has been placed on modified duty and turned in his gun and badge on Friday, the sources said.

http://nypost.com/2013/10/04/undercover-cop-stood-by-as-bikers-beat-dad/
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Posted: 10/5/2013 2:17:03 AM EST
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The unidentified officer waited three days to come forward Wednesday night. He has been placed on modified duty and turned in his gun and badge on Friday, the sources said.

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The waiting 3 days part and not calling 911 is what will sink him. Just like the cops in the Paul Heidelberger incident years ago.
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Cops have told me they're never really off duty.
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Huh? Shouldn't it read "off duty NYPD?"

I thought MOS were told not to get involved and be a good witness when off duty.


Cops have told me they're never really off duty.
They only say that when they are already going to fuck with you, or want to use "I am a cop do as I say" in social situations.
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If he was undercover that day he would not have been off duty, would have done something, calling in back up and he would not have waited three days to inform his superiors. Thug biker cop, fessed up when he got scared he would be IDed.
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Off duty participants, bystanders, or undercover agents is the question to be answered. If they are members of these criminal gangs, they should be fired or even charged appropriately.

These are not exactly happy go lucky motorcycle clubs.

I love this part:

"He didn’t want to blow his cover,” said the source — though the cop was not investigating the group of bikers.

Yea riiiiight asshole.

If he was really an undercover cop on duty, as one would be in such a situation, then he should of intervened. But I am going to guess he wasn't.
If he was undercover that day he would not have been off duty, would have done something, calling in back up and he would not have waited three days to inform his superiors. Thug biker cop, fessed up when he got scared he would be IDed.
Doesn't it seem like a bad idea to be doing that kind of thing in the first place? I mean, specially, a badder idea on a bad idea as a police officer?

There's no moral turpitude clauses? They can be hookers, drunks, drug users, child pornographers in their spare time as long as it's off duty?

While I'd say they probably didn't commit a crime. The NYPD doesn't need THIS type of shit slung on them when they were already well covered in regular mud over the incident.
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Posted: 10/5/2013 2:55:46 AM EST
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5 off-duty officers among bikers in SUV incident

NEW YORK (WABC) -- Eyewitness News has learned that among the bikers on the Henry Hudson last weekend, were five off-duty NYPD officers.

Sources say at least two detectives witnessed the attack on Alexian Lien and did not directly intervene. And investigators are still working to determine what role, if any, was played by the other three officers.
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http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=9274018


Police released the picture of the man seen here, who is wanted for questioning.
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Posted: 10/5/2013 3:01:53 AM EST
Meanwhile.....

Off-duty NYPD cop drunk when his SUV kills pedestrian on Staten Island, police say

STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. -- An off-duty cop who authorities say mowed down a pedestrian in Mariners Harbor in his SUV Friday morning faces charges of second-degree vehicular manslaughter and drunken driving.

Officer Joseph McClean, 29, of South Beach, assigned to the 121st Precinct, was arraigned Friday afternoon in Stapleton Criminal Court.
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The officer traveled a few more feet before stopping the car; he fled the scene in his vehicle but returned within a half-hour, the source said.
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According to the source, McClean told police, "I'm coming from my girl's place."

When police asked him if he had been drinking, McClean responded, "I'm not talking about that without my [PBA] rep," the source said.
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http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/10/off-duty_cop_drunk_when_his_su.html

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Posted: 10/5/2013 3:02:03 AM EST
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Actually, quite a few unfit to be trusted with the power of arrest are weeded out through the hiring process. Though some inevitably squeak through, the percentage of scumbags in LE is far lower than in the general public.
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Folks need to realize the the rank and file of the LEO Comunity is a cross section of the American public. There are good honest cops and there are those that are rotten to the cops. The brother of the badge BS only serves to compound the problem with dirty cops.

Actually, quite a few unfit to be trusted with the power of arrest are weeded out through the hiring process. Though some inevitably squeak through, the percentage of scumbags in LE is far lower than in the general public.






Your assertion does not even stand to reason.

That is like saying politicians are more honest and trustworthy and tell less lies than the "general public".

Or teachers are more intelligent.




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http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=9274018

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1477065.1380958685!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/biker-01.jpg
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I posted in another thread the fact that when I lived in Cali I would see real "outlaw gangs" a few times on poker runs Hells Angels/Outlaws/Bandidos
and they always just cruised around everyone and went on their ways without causing anyone problems. Like I said I have way more respect
for those guys the so called 1%r's then these sportbike idiots.And FWIW I used to ride a Kawi sportbike.
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that's because they don't want the attention if they're already involved in an illegal activity. They don't want to give LE a reason to pull them over.
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Off-duty NYPD cop drunk when his SUV kills pedestrian on Staten Island, police say







http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/10/off-duty_cop_drunk_when_his_su.html

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Off-duty NYPD cop drunk when his SUV kills pedestrian on Staten Island, police say

STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. -- An off-duty cop who authorities say mowed down a pedestrian in Mariners Harbor in his SUV Friday morning faces charges of second-degree vehicular manslaughter and drunken driving.

Officer Joseph McClean, 29, of South Beach, assigned to the 121st Precinct, was arraigned Friday afternoon in Stapleton Criminal Court.


The officer traveled a few more feet before stopping the car; he fled the scene in his vehicle but returned within a half-hour, the source said.


According to the source, McClean told police, "I'm coming from my girl's place."

When police asked him if he had been drinking, McClean responded, "I'm not talking about that without my [PBA] rep," the source said.


http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/10/off-duty_cop_drunk_when_his_su.html

http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/10/off-duty_cop_drunk_when_his_su.html

fender bender DUI cops walk....fatal accident different story...
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When police asked him if he had been drinking, McClean responded, "I'm not talking about that without my [PBA] rep," the source said.

Smart move.
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Did you read the article? He was off duty and did not tell work about it for three days. He was not involved in an investigation, he was scooting around with turds on his day off.
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Yeah I'm not buying the "He was undercover" story. If he was undercover he would of had numerous supervisors who would of known where he was and known about about the incident immediately.
He might be a UC detective but I highly doubt he was working that day.
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Charge that coward with gang assault.


Is that an actual charge or are you just inventing laws?
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Yeah I'm not buying the "He was undercover" story. If he was undercover he would of had numerous supervisors who would of known where he was and known about about the incident immediately.
He might be a UC detective but I highly doubt he was working that day.
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Did you read the article? He was off duty and did not tell work about it for three days. He was not involved in an investigation, he was scooting around with turds on his day off.

Yeah I'm not buying the "He was undercover" story. If he was undercover he would of had numerous supervisors who would of known where he was and known about about the incident immediately.
He might be a UC detective but I highly doubt he was working that day.
Well, let's face it, with hiring standards being what they are, there's no shortage of perps with badges these days.
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I wonder what the officers would have done to Range Rover guy if he had used his handgun to protect his family. Stand idly by or mag dump his ass?
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It's been explained what happens to off duty NYPD officers if they choose to engage. Saving the driver from serious injury would be irrelevant, he would have exposed the city to liability by taking unauthorized action against the highwaymen.

This, fuck that noise



I wonder what the officers would have done to Range Rover guy if he had used his handgun to protect his family. Stand idly by or mag dump his ass?
He would have done something i they had a family dog.



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I rode sport bikes too, this is the black version of Pagans, Hells Angels, Vandals etc, not a bunch of fun loving guys out for a toot on their bikes.
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don't lump all of us with them and hide behind the fact you use'ta had a bike a while ago.


Not lumping anyone together or "hiding" behind the fact that I rode a bike.These guys were thugs plain and simple out to stir up shit
on a public roadway endangering folks with their "stunts"Most of their bikes/riders were seemingly unlicensed
or flat out not street legal like the quads and dirtbikes etc. the guy that was run over dressing up like the joker makeup and all in the one
pic that was posted doesnst help his cause much..why are any legitimate sport bikers so sensitive about these idiots?
I rode sport bikes too, this is the black version of Pagans, Hells Angels, Vandals etc, not a bunch of fun loving guys out for a toot on their bikes.
For some reason I can't imagine you on a motor bike


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Well, let's face it, with hiring standards being what they are, there's no shortage of perps with badges these days.
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Did you read the article? He was off duty and did not tell work about it for three days. He was not involved in an investigation, he was scooting around with turds on his day off.

Yeah I'm not buying the "He was undercover" story. If he was undercover he would of had numerous supervisors who would of known where he was and known about about the incident immediately.
He might be a UC detective but I highly doubt he was working that day.
Well, let's face it, with hiring standards being what they are, there's no shortage of perps with badges these days.

At least 5 guys from just our old precinct belong to clubs like this.
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Hey man, I'm on your side. Just tell me what happened. I want to help you.
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When police asked him if he had been drinking, McClean responded, "I'm not talking about that without my [PBA] rep," the source said.

Smart move.

Hey man, I'm on your side. Just tell me what happened. I want to help you.

You want to talk? Talk to my lawyer.
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Wow. Not much difference between the cops and the criminals in NYC it seems.

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Wow. Not much difference between the cops and the criminals in NYC it seems.
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Who would of thought that would happen when you have the lowest standards.
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They only say that when they are already going to fuck with you, or want to use "I am a cop do as I say" in social situations.
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Huh? Shouldn't it read "off duty NYPD?"

I thought MOS were told not to get involved and be a good witness when off duty.


Cops have told me they're never really off duty.
They only say that when they are already going to fuck with you, or want to use "I am a cop do as I say" in social situations.


Off duty cop witnesses a little old lady getting slapped around and mugged, minds his own business or calls 911 and watches the crime play out?
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Huh? Shouldn't it read "off duty NYPD?"

I thought MOS were told not to get involved and be a good witness when off duty.


Cops have told me they're never really off duty.
They only say that when they are already going to fuck with you, or want to use "I am a cop do as I say" in social situations.


Off duty cop witnesses a little old lady getting slapped around and mugged, minds his own business or calls 911 and watches the crime play out?
Well, let's see... what happened the last time an off-duty cop intervened when an old lady was being mugged?

The outcome of previous incidents will likely dictate how the incident in your scenario plays out.
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Posted: 10/5/2013 7:54:13 AM EST
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Well, let's see... what happened the last time an off-duty cop intervened when an old lady was being mugged?
The outcome of previous incidents will likely dictate how the incident in your scenario plays out.
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Huh? Shouldn't it read "off duty NYPD?"
I thought MOS were told not to get involved and be a good witness when off duty.

Cops have told me they're never really off duty.
They only say that when they are already going to fuck with you, or want to use "I am a cop do as I say" in social situations.

Off duty cop witnesses a little old lady getting slapped around and mugged, minds his own business or calls 911 and watches the crime play out?
Well, let's see... what happened the last time an off-duty cop intervened when an old lady was being mugged?
The outcome of previous incidents will likely dictate how the incident in your scenario plays out.

Considering that a cop I worked with caught shit from the department for stopping an attempted double homicide off-duty, I know how I'd handle it.
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Who would of thought that would happen when you have the lowest standards.
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Wow. Not much difference between the cops and the criminals in NYC it seems.

Who would of thought that would happen when you have the lowest standards.


Chances that they are inkies? 100%?
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Chances that they are inkies? 100%?
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Wow. Not much difference between the cops and the criminals in NYC it seems.

Who would of thought that would happen when you have the lowest standards.

Chances that they are inkies? 100%?

Most likely.
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Most likely.
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Wow. Not much difference between the cops and the criminals in NYC it seems.

Who would of thought that would happen when you have the lowest standards.

Chances that they are inkies? 100%?

Most likely.




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Your assertion does not even stand to reason.

That is like saying politicians are more honest and trustworthy and tell less lies than the "general public".

Or teachers are more intelligent.

Too much!
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Folks need to realize the the rank and file of the LEO Comunity is a cross section of the American public. There are good honest cops and there are those that are rotten to the cops. The brother of the badge BS only serves to compound the problem with dirty cops.

Actually, quite a few unfit to be trusted with the power of arrest are weeded out through the hiring process. Though some inevitably squeak through, the percentage of scumbags in LE is far lower than in the general public.

Your assertion does not even stand to reason.

That is like saying politicians are more honest and trustworthy and tell less lies than the "general public".

Or teachers are more intelligent.

Too much!

It's not an assertion, and it's nothing like your example.
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Evacuate New York...its not worth anymore American lives.
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Who said NYC was in America?
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Considering that a cop I worked with caught shit from the department for stopping an attempted double homicide off-duty, I know how I'd handle it.
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Off duty cop witnesses a little old lady getting slapped around and mugged, minds his own business or calls 911 and watches the crime play out?
Well, let's see... what happened the last time an off-duty cop intervened when an old lady was being mugged?
The outcome of previous incidents will likely dictate how the incident in your scenario plays out.

Considering that a cop I worked with caught shit from the department for stopping an attempted double homicide off-duty, I know how I'd handle it.
And there you have it.
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Considering that a cop I worked with caught shit from the department for stopping an attempted double homicide off-duty, I know how I'd handle it



Jesus fuck.
Really?
I've seen off-duty NYPD cops lauded in the news, though. A couple of yrs ago a female officer stopped a robbery at a hair salon by shooting the gun out of the perp's hand, in Queens, I think?
More recently an off-duty officer tried to stop a mugging, got shot, and killed at least 1 bad guy. He got promoted to detective while still in the hospital, IIRC.
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Evacuate New York...its not worth anymore American lives.

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Wow. Not much difference between the cops and the criminals in NYC it seems.

Who would of thought that would happen when you have the lowest standards.

Chances that they are inkies? 100%?

Most likely.




Evacuate New York...its not worth anymore American lives.

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lots of cops were on that ride. Don't kid yourself.
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That's Reassuring.
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familiar?


and where is the MYOB crowd
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"Not choosing to engage" is not the same as chasing a man down at 100mph with a gang of felons. How do you think he got to the scene of the assault? He was part of the wolf pack.
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It's been explained what happens to off duty NYPD officers if they choose to engage. Saving the driver from serious injury would be irrelevant, he would have exposed the city to liability by taking unauthorized action against the highwaymen.
"Not choosing to engage" is not the same as chasing a man down at 100mph with a gang of felons. How do you think he got to the scene of the assault? He was part of the wolf pack.


They Used to Call that "Malfeasance" in the Olden Days.
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I've seen off-duty NYPD cops lauded in the news, though. A couple of yrs ago a female officer stopped a robbery at a hair salon by shooting the gun out of the perp's hand, in Queens, I think?
More recently an off-duty officer tried to stop a mugging, got shot, and killed at least 1 bad guy. He got promoted to detective while still in the hospital, IIRC.
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Yeah the guy I worked with was lauded in the news too when behind the scenes the department wanted to fuck him.
Btw, that incident with the female cop happened in my precinct and the story told in the news was nowhere near reality.
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That's Reassuring.
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lots of cops were on that ride. Don't kid yourself.

That's Reassuring.

You expect more from the dept. with the lowest standards and hiring practices in the area?
Hire shit, get shit.
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Right here.
Cop should off called 911, left his info, and ridden away.
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Yeah the guy I worked with was lauded in the news too when behind the scenes the department wanted to fuck him.
Btw, that incident with the female cop happened in my precinct and the story told in the news was nowhere near reality.
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I've seen off-duty NYPD cops lauded in the news, though. A couple of yrs ago a female officer stopped a robbery at a hair salon by shooting the gun out of the perp's hand, in Queens, I think?
More recently an off-duty officer tried to stop a mugging, got shot, and killed at least 1 bad guy. He got promoted to detective while still in the hospital, IIRC.

Yeah the guy I worked with was lauded in the news too when behind the scenes the department wanted to fuck him.
Btw, that incident with the female cop happened in my precinct and the story told in the news was nowhere near reality.


Aw c'mon man, you're gonna make me ask for the story?
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Aw c'mon man, you're gonna make me ask for the story?
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I've seen off-duty NYPD cops lauded in the news, though. A couple of yrs ago a female officer stopped a robbery at a hair salon by shooting the gun out of the perp's hand, in Queens, I think?
More recently an off-duty officer tried to stop a mugging, got shot, and killed at least 1 bad guy. He got promoted to detective while still in the hospital, IIRC.

Yeah the guy I worked with was lauded in the news too when behind the scenes the department wanted to fuck him.
Btw, that incident with the female cop happened in my precinct and the story told in the news was nowhere near reality.

Aw c'mon man, you're gonna make me ask for the story?

It's in the archived threads somewhere. Best part was when a member here stated I didn't know what I was talking about and I then had to inform him that I was on scene for the incident.
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Those NYPD cops must have been good friends with this guy.

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Huh? Shouldn't it read "off duty NYPD?"
I thought MOS were told not to get involved and be a good witness when off duty.

Cops have told me they're never really off duty.

NYPD cops?

Several, yes.
But also cops in general.

Those NYPD cops must have been good friends with this guy.

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Extorris that's great..could use some copies of that to put up where I work..
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