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Posted: 9/5/2013 5:40:49 PM EDT
I've seen the power of prayer work and know it's real. Please, I'm asking for prayers for myself and my family "really bad". Thanks, ETA: Prostate cancer, aggressive. PSA 56 Biopsy: Gleason 9 in two areas. UPDATE 9/13/13: Scans done: Pathology report from CT shows metastasis to various lymph chains in pelvis, possible urinary bladder wall. Liver, lung, kidney, pancreas are clear. Pathology report from bone scans not finished yet, but I have the images. Definite spots on right humerus and side of right skull. They took two extra images just of those areas too. I don't know if there other areas involved though. It's spread to the bones. UPDATE: 9/18/13 12 out of 12 biopsy cores are positive for PC Two are Gleason 9, the rest are Gleason 8 and 7s. Bone scans show early metastasis to skull and humerus, and possibly rib and sacrum. Started hormone treatment yesterday. 22.5mg Lupron Depot 3mo, and began 50mg casodex daily. Surgery is not recommended at this point. Going to see two oncologists later this week. Thank you all again for your encouragement and prayers - I truly appreciate the support you guys are giving. It really means a lot to me. UPDATE: 9/25/13 Saw two different Medical Oncologists, got two different approaches to how they'd treat it. One says hormone therapy should start showing effects in reducing lymph node and prostate cancer, reducing PSA and hopefully even slowing/stopping it's spread. He'll want to give the hormone therapy a month and then recheck bone scans and CT scans and bloodwork. If he doesn't see what he expects, chemo would be an option then. This doc says there's no studies or clear evidence that starting both chemo with hormone at right now has demonstrated effect in the progression or longterm outcome in patients like me. So he wants to hold of on chemo for the time being. I feel healthy and so quality of life right now would definitely be affected if I started chemo right now, and he says there's no studies to say it would benefit me right now. Plus if I start chemo right away, it would make me ineligible for certain clinical trials if I wanted to pursue that down the road. I also saw a Radiation Oncologist at this place as well. The other Medical Oncologist in a different group says I should start chemo right now, not wait a month. Was very gung-ho and said there's no reason to wait until hormone therapy isn't effective anymore before starting chemo, and that I should start now. She understood my concern about BEING on chemo when I'm feeling fine right now and that I've only been on hormone therapy barely over a week and maybe we can give that a little time. But she was saying my cancer is very aggressive so she wanted to jump right on it with combination therapy. I don't know of studies though that show starting chemo right now would make a difference in patients like me. Both agreed that surgery and radiation are not options for me at this point. They're looking at it as a systemic disease with systemic treatments in mind. btw... I like the first medical oncologist group much more than the gung-ho one. The first one is SO much more organized and comfortable and all the doctors and staff are very easy to be with. I had two separate hour-long consultations with two oncologists at the first place. Very good feeling with that group. The second group seemed like a high-stress office, the staff seemed a bit stressed out and it was just a very uncomfortable place to be, for me. My wife agreed. So here I am, deciding what to do. 10/22/13 Went out to LA earlier and had consultation - he did not recommend starting chemo, but wanted to do hormone therapy and gave different treatment options on that. Most recent results are PSA is 9 which is good after a month of therapy. BUT, MRI and scans have confirmed multiple small metastatic lesions on spine and pelvis. Kind of expected but I didn't like hearing multiple metastases. So.... I'm continuing hormone therapy, starting to see side-effects of it but the good news is that the PSA has dropped from 56 to 9 in one month. Goal is to get PSA as low as possible for as long as possible and not see any new bone mets. I'm starting to cope, though it is still difficult to come to grips with. But prayers and encouragement are my life bread. My wife and son are everything to me and are supporting me so well. Whether I have 2 years or 10 years, these are going to be my best years. Thank you folks for your prayers, I do believe they help. Update 12/7/13: Hormone therapy is continuing, PSA has dropped from 56 to less than 3 in two months. I'm not having any pain from the multiple bone mets, and am still active but do notice I fatigue easier. Side-effects of hormone therapy are manageable and minor compared to stage 4 bone-metastatic cancer. Oh, it was also discovered that I have severe osteoporosis in my spine. I will be starting bone-strengthening treatment soon - I go in next week for my second round of hormone therapy and a new set of bloodtests. I will likely be on some form of hormone therapy for as long as it works, which could be a year or two or it could be five or ten years. I'm starting to "settle" into the treatment and have chosen my oncology "team" after many consultations with at least four separate cancer centers, including the one in LA. I also got a letter from my health insurance that they've given me a "case manager" who's an RN who will be assigned to my case. Anyone know what an RN "Case Manager" is for? IMO, I think it will be someone to limit what my doctors want to do. I certainly don't need any RN to be giving advice to my oncologists or to approve anything he does - I think they're just there to say "no". Anyway, I'm feeling good, and am going in for more tests in a week and more imaging scans in a month. I will say, that facing stage-4 bone-met cancer really really makes you focus your point of view, and makes you really really appreciate life. The thread that got locked about Walker was an explanation of that - that most folks couldn't understand. Also, while I was in LA and was very distraught over my condition and not knowing what I should do - had a very powerful spiritual experience or set of "signs" regarding my health, my seeking help and direction, and communication with my mom who passed away in April of this year. There is so much to this world and our existence that we are blind to, because of all the distractions. We are truly spiritual beings having a human experience, and there is much more out there than what is just physical. Thanks to the folks who continue to offer prayers and support and encouragement, here and by IM. The power of prayer is real and I believe it strengthens us all. My family and my faith are my rock and my life. UPDATE: 12/22/13 Went to oncologist Friday. Still doing good. PSA is now down to 1.4, so I’m still responding well to the hormone therapy. Only having minor/manageable side-effects. I also got my second shot of hormone-therapy, which will last for 3 more months. The doc was excited that he had some new news about treatments for me. There’s now reports that combining chemotherapy upfront along with my hormone therapy has demonstrated benefits to survivability in stage-4 bone-metastatic prostate cancer patients like me. When I first went to him in September he said the studies were not conclusive and that chemo is typically added once the hormone therapy no longer works. But now the results from studies are in and they are looking like it is beneficial. So he wants to start me on chemo while the hormone therapy is still working. The doc will work with insurance try to make sure it’s covered because, even though the new studies show that it works, it’s still a new change in the "standard” treatment and insurance is sometimes slow to change what they accept. He said he’s been in contact with cancer centers around the country and they’re all pushing insurance now to cover this upfront-chemo treatment for this kind of cancer. So in mid January, I’ll be going in again for my regular bloodwork/PSA tests, plus the bone-scan and CT scans of my chest and abdomen since it will have been three months since my last bone scan and CTs and they’ll be comparing the scans and hopefully seeing no new bone-metastasis. I’ll also have a consultation at that time with the docs about starting chemo, and probably start chemo near the end of January. I will get six chemo treatments by IV infusion - one infusion every three weeks for 18 weeks. The side effects he said will be typical for chemo, hairloss, nausea, loss of appetite, fatigue, low white blood cell counts, possible numbness in finger tips. He said this type of chemo (taxotere) is not as hard on the body as other stronger types and he said I should be able to handle it well since I’m fairly young and fairly healthy. The side-effects will last for several days and it’ll be a rollercoaster of feeling sick, then getting better just in time for the next round of chemo, and on and on for 18 weeks. yay! So that’s where I am now, still good news, PSA is down even more than last month, and will probably be starting chemo in late January. Thanks for your support and encouragement and your prayers. I think it’s all working! UPDATE 2/28/14: Thank you all for your prayers and your support and encouragement. It means a lot, and I believe in the power of prayer as much as the power of medicine. My most recent PSA this month is 0.75 and my most recent CT and bone scans this month show no new bone mets and pelvic lymph nodes and prostate are reduced which means the current therapy is working well. I am still seriously considering starting chemo to add to the current hormone-therapy. The oncologist would do what I recommend, but says I'm doing very well right now. Most recent research shows that starting chemo+hormone-therapy gives a 20% increase in 3-year survival rate compared to starting hormone-therapy only. Well, I'm 5+ months into hormone therapy already and so the oncologist doesn't know if I'd fall into that category of showing marked benefit. But I think it should at least help somewhat, which is better than nothing I suppose. Although undergoing 18 weeks of chemo won't be a stroll in the park. But I'm seriously leaning towards starting it. Hard decision to make. But the good news is PSA is below 1.0, there are no new bone mets and all signs are looking good for now. Thanks again for your continued encouragement and prayers. UPDATE: 3/31/14 Had bloodwork, bone-scan and CT scans. PSA is a sliver higher than February. Doctor doesn’t think that’s significant. Bone scans came back good, no new spots on bones. But the CT scan showed one pelvic lymph node that was enlarged and likely from growing cancer cells. The oncologist was disappointed to see that, hoping that I wouldn’t be showing signs of progression like that this soon. We talked about treatment options that have a good track record of studies and that are available. We will be continuing hormone-therapy, and adding immuno-therapy on top of that now. That’s where they harvest your own white blood cells, treat them to boost their immune activity to specifically go after prostate-cancer cells, then reintroduce them back into your body. Basically a way to boost my immune system to fight the cancer cells. Studies show a 20-30% increase in 3-year survivability of patients with advanced prostate cancer who go on this immunotherapy. Generally it’s only available once the cancer is considered "progressing” or becoming resistant to hormone therapy. It's very costly so insurance will only cover it for advanced prostate cancer. It basically takes about 5 weeks to complete the treatment, and includes 3 "cycles” where I go in for 3-4 hours and they take some of blood cells out by I.V. then treat them to boost their activity and numbers, and then put them back in me three days later. Hoping to get this started in about a couple of weeks, once it can be approved by insurance. Hoping to have that finished by end of May. After immunotherapy is done, then we have other options too. Other hormone therapy drugs and/or chemotherapy. But the doctor wanted to get the immunotherapy going first. This was a long talk with the oncologist, a full hour consult. There were other things discussed, clinical trials, standard-treatments, etc. I think at the very least this immunotherapy is a good choice. We may want to add another treatment in with it, but there are concerns about cost/insurance/toxicities/benefit-to-me that we have to think about. I also asked about radiation-therapy to "zap” that lymph node but he considers this a systemic progression and generally only recommends radiotherapy if it’s causing pain. It’s also not in an easily-accessed location so can’t biopsy or remove it. We got a second opinion about this progression and treatment plan from another prostate oncologist specialist and he confirmed that immunotherapy is the way to go for right now. So, that’s where we’re at now. I feel fine, I have no pain, no symptoms. Just that one lymph node in the pelvis doing what it’s not supposed to, which is a sign of disease progression. Thanks again for your continued prayers and support, it really means a lot to us. UPDATE 4/17/14 Getting immunotherapy right now. IV in my arm, my activated anti-cancer white blood cells are flowing into to me as I type. Release the hounds!!! UPDATE 5/20/14 I finished my last round of immunotherapy, went in for bloodwork, bone scan and CT scans had my consult with the oncologist. Things are good. I have no symptoms or pain. PSA went down to 0.73 (down from 1.0 last month). It had gone up the last two times I had it checked in March and April, but now it’s lower than it ever has been. That’s good news. Bone scan came back with no new metastases and that’s good news. CT scans came back with one lymph node enlarging which is the same one that was enlarging back in March. It was slightly larger and could possibly be within the margin of error for measuring it. No other abnormalities in any lymph nodes were seen. Liver, spleen, pancreas and lungs all look good, nothing abnormal there related to cancer. That’s also good news. So PSA is down, no new bone mets, still only one lymph node slightly enlarging and I feel good, just more easily fatigued. I noticed that most when I go running or when I was hiking out of the Grand Canyon earlier this month. Now that immunotherapy is done, the oncologist recommended I start a second-line-of-defense hormone therapy on top of what I'm currently on. It should help slow/stop the progression for as long as it can. So that’s all for now. Things are doing okay, and hope and pray it stays that way. UPDATE: 7/2/14 PSA down to 0.22 and I feel very blessed. No symptoms, manageable side-effects (but very easily fatigued) and the oncologist is pleased and says we're now going to stay the course and check in in August for bloodwork and scans. Things are good. :) UPDATE: 8/28/14 It's been a year since I got the news and began riding the rollercoaster of fighting cancer. At the end of August 2013 PSA was 56. Early September it was found to be widely metastatic. PSA is now down to 0.15 (lowest its ever been) and there've are no new bone metastases on the bone scans since January. Also the CT scans showed no new signs of progression and the couple of pelvic lymph nodes that had been enlarging for the past 4 months or so were also noticeably reduced in size. These are all signs that my treatments are working. Immunotherapy and hormone therapy seem to be working for now. I have no pain in my bones, and my lungs, liver and everything else look good. I do have very noticeable fatigue as part of the side-effects of my treatments, but otherwise I feel good. I've also been doing more stress-reduction. Took a 30% paycut to reduce workload stress (I'd been thinking about doing that for a couple of years before this) and I feel much more relaxed, and am enjoying being with my family and doing my hobbies more than ever and it makes all the difference. I am going to stay on my current treatments as long as they keep working, which I hope and pray is many many years. But if any good can ever come from something as terrible as having cancer, it’s that I have never felt more supported and loved by my family and friends. It’s been a long, rough rollercoaster year, but actually – I don’t think I’ve ever laughed so much and so hard in my life as I have in the past year. Things are good! UPDATE: Nov 2014 Latest round of scans show no new progression to bones or lymphnodes, PSA is hovering around 0.12 and so the cancer seems to be in a holding pattern. I asked the oncologists for their crystal-ball prognosis and they of course said every patient is different but that I'm responding well to the treatments and it could stay this way for "years". But he also recommended doing a round of chemotherapy early next year to hit the cancer while it's down, so I'm mulling over doing that, and will get another oncologist second opinion on that. I go back in early January for more scans and tests and should have a decision about starting chemo by then. Still have very noticeable fatigue and have gained about a pound a month for the past year. The doctors say the current therapy I'm on is basically accelerating my aging and slowing my metabolism, but I'm still training for the half-marathon in January (I ran it last year along with my 13-yo son, it was his first half-marathon). Fatigue and noticeable loss of muscle strength are the main side-effects and those are manageable. But, things are going very well, reduced my stress at work, and am doing everything I can to enjoy life, family and hobbies. And praying, lots of praying. Thanks to all here for your support, prayers and your kind words, it means a lot to me. UPDATE: January 2015 Last week I got my bloodwork done and my PSA is 0.11 which is pretty much what it has been for the past 3 months or so. I met with my oncologist here and he was very pleased with how I’m doing. He says the lowest PSA level they can measure is 0.10 so I’m almost as low as detectable. He is pretty much happy to keep me on the medications I’m on and sees no need to do chemo at this point. I have no pain in any of the bone lesions and the CT scans show no enlargements or growths in the chest or abdomen. I still have fatigue and other manageable side-effects. The doctor says these drugs should work for several years (could be 1-2, could be 5), but eventually he says I’ll be getting chemo at some point if/when the current treatments are no longer effective, but he doesn’t think it’s necessary or demonstrably beneficial to do chemo where I’m at right now in my treatments. I've also been getting second opinions from another oncologist outside of my primary oncologist – he says he’d recommend doing chemo now, but he wasn't saying it was necessary. So I feel good that my current treatments are doing what they should and I’m doing good, but I do feel somewhat conflicted about whether to push for chemo now or wait until later. There are pros and cons to both, and apparently no clear research showing that I should or shouldn’t do chemo sooner rather than later. So there is uncertainty, and we get different points of view to the "art” of medicine because there is not enough "science” to point to one choice over the other. {Sigh} Well I do feel good though, I’m more easily fatigued and can feel a loss of muscle mass and strength, but if I pace myself I will be fine. And the cooler weather seems to help reduce the hot flashes. So that’s all for now, I guess no news is good news! Thank you for your prayers and support. JMJ+ UPDATE: 2/26/15 - All things work for good to those who love the Lord. I have been incredibly blessed through a merciful grace that I don't deserve, but still I rejoice in experiencing for as long as I am allowed to live. Tomorrow is promised to no one, not even the next hour - so I give thanks for every moment I have been given! God has smiled upon me for a time, prayers have been answered, the intercession of the spirits and angels who are living among us and who have passed on are carrying me each day and only He knows how many more days and I will be blessed to see here. So I am thankful to my family and friends and to those of you who I've never met, yet your prayers have supported me in ways you may never fully know. We in the physical world can pray together, joined in spirit across thousands of miles, and can also be joined with the living spirits of those who have gone on ahead of us, and so I have been joined and blessed by the prayers of you all, and with those spirits who now live in the Kingdom of Heaven. I haven't been very active in this forum lately, my hobbies and interests have changed, and I've done what I can to reduce stress in my life. But I am thankful for those of you who have been a part of my blessing, especially your prayers in this thread. So after 50,000 posts, I will probably be much less active on this forum now, but still checking in from time to time. I needed a change in my life, and this is part of it. My wife and my son and the rest of my family are my life and greater gifts than anything I can imagine. As of my most recent bloodwork this week, my PSA is now below detectable limits, less than 0.1 and I have no pain and am doing well. My treatments are working very well and I truly believe last spring when the cancer began to grow again, I experienced a more powerful spiritual healing than I could have ever expected. And it was through prayer and spiritual intercession and a fuller return to my Catholic roots and God's awesome grace that healing was delivered for me, at least for now. God will do His will and I cannot know what tomorrow will bring, but for now, I rejoice in the gifts He's given me. Things are good! |
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I don't know what to ask the Lord for on your behalf, but I will pray that he keeps his hands upon you and your family Mac.
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Praying for God to keep a watchful eye on you and your family and to give you/yours his protection and healing hand if needed.
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The power of prayer runs deep where miracles are waiting.
Prayers & hugs OP. MissB |
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I'm not a praying man, but I'll say one for you and your family. Stay strong.
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Praying that you may feel God's presence through your situation.
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