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Posted: 8/20/2013 10:03:47 PM EDT
Interdasting.

Link Posted: 8/20/2013 10:15:51 PM EDT
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Lots of tools and how-to-make-your-own out there.










Link Posted: 8/20/2013 10:26:13 PM EDT
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Remember: Glass is not a solid, it's a ridgid liquid.
(it still flows -just very slowly )

If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  
Link Posted: 8/20/2013 10:27:15 PM EDT
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Wow...

Gave my Grampa a kit to do that for his birthday in about '75. Really easy to do.
Link Posted: 8/20/2013 10:28:54 PM EDT
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I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".
Link Posted: 8/20/2013 10:31:35 PM EDT
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Remember: Glass is not a solid, it's a ridgid liquid.
(it still flows -just very slowly )

If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  


I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".


It does indeed flow incredibly slowly, depending on the thickness and shape. Old glass panes will often have noticeable distortion in the lower half.
Link Posted: 8/20/2013 10:31:43 PM EDT
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Pretty cool.

Link Posted: 8/20/2013 10:32:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/20/2013 10:33:44 PM EDT
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But if you've already emptied the beer bottle, what do you need a glass for?  
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Sorry... as cool as it is, I guess I am just a redneck and will keep my mason jars. Things just taste better in them
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Link Posted: 8/20/2013 10:37:04 PM EDT
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Remember: Glass is not a solid, it's a ridgid liquid.
(it still flows -just very slowly )

If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  


I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".


It does indeed flow incredibly slowly, depending on the thickness and shape. Old glass panes will often have noticeable distortion in the lower half.


that has more to do with the way they made older glass
Link Posted: 8/20/2013 10:39:04 PM EDT
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If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  


I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".


It does indeed flow incredibly slowly, depending on the thickness and shape. Old glass panes will often have noticeable distortion in the lower half.

No.  Just no.
Link Posted: 8/20/2013 11:04:35 PM EDT
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(it still flows -just very slowly )

If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  


I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".


It does indeed flow incredibly slowly, depending on the thickness and shape. Old glass panes will often have noticeable distortion in the lower half.



Uhh wut?
Link Posted: 8/20/2013 11:07:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/20/2013 11:23:50 PM EDT
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Remember: Glass is not a solid, it's a ridgid liquid.
(it still flows -just very slowly )

If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  


I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".


It does indeed flow incredibly slowly, depending on the thickness and shape. Old glass panes will often have noticeable distortion in the lower half.



Uhh wut?



Seriously.

Old buildind being restored will have the panes thicker at the bottom...

They are s..l..o..w..l..y.. dripping  
Link Posted: 8/20/2013 11:35:15 PM EDT
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For the win!  Ill second that!  
Link Posted: 8/20/2013 11:40:29 PM EDT
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Remember: Glass is not a solid, it's a ridgid liquid.
(it still flows -just very slowly )

If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  


I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".


It does indeed flow incredibly slowly, depending on the thickness and shape. Old glass panes will often have noticeable distortion in the lower half.



Uhh wut?



Seriously.

Old buildind being restored will have the panes thicker at the bottom...

They are s..l..o..w..l..y.. dripping  


Unless you are trolling, no just no. Glass is not liquid, it does not flow, old windows have irregular not because they are flowing but because glass making tech was not that great
Link Posted: 8/20/2013 11:43:24 PM EDT
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I believe that the incidence of panes that are thicker at the bottom has never been shown to be statistically significant.  That is, there are just as many panes that are thicker in other parts.  There is also ancient glass that, by what you are suggesting, should just be flat "puddles", but that still holds its shape.

Now, on a very large scale (telescope lenses and mirrors), there is deformation that occurs beyond a certain size.  That is one of the limitations of optics on earth.
Link Posted: 8/20/2013 11:45:14 PM EDT
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I thought breathing glass shards/dust was a big no no. That sands and blows it off.

Link Posted: 8/20/2013 11:52:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/21/2013 12:04:11 AM EDT
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What's wrong with cheap glassware from Wal-Mart?
Link Posted: 8/21/2013 12:16:12 AM EDT
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(it still flows -just very slowly )

If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  


I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".



That's odd.

My wife, whose degree is in Ceramic Engineering, says you don't know what you're talking about. According to her "it's a liquid on a molecular basis."


Link Posted: 8/21/2013 12:16:57 AM EDT
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No.  Just no.
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Remember: Glass is not a solid, it's a ridgid liquid.
(it still flows -just very slowly )

If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  


I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".


It does indeed flow incredibly slowly, depending on the thickness and shape. Old glass panes will often have noticeable distortion in the lower half.

No.  Just no.


Yes. Just yes.

Link Posted: 8/21/2013 12:24:43 AM EDT
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Remember that fad from the 70's.
Link Posted: 8/21/2013 12:28:09 AM EDT
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That's odd.

My wife, whose degree is in Ceramic Engineering, says you don't know what you're talking about. According to her "it's a liquid on a molecular basis."


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Remember: Glass is not a solid, it's a ridgid liquid.
(it still flows -just very slowly )

If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  


I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".



That's odd.

My wife, whose degree is in Ceramic Engineering, says you don't know what you're talking about. According to her "it's a liquid on a molecular basis."





Rules, how do they work? F5 F5 F5....
Link Posted: 8/21/2013 12:39:04 AM EDT
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It does indeed flow incredibly slowly, depending on the thickness and shape. Old glass panes will often have noticeable distortion in the lower half.

Uhh wut?

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Old buildind being restored will have the panes thicker at the bottom...





They are s..l..o..w..l..y.. dripping  






Unless you are trolling, no just no. Glass is not liquid, it does not flow, old windows have irregular not because they are flowing but because glass making tech was not that great





 

I have seen TONS of older buildings with the glass thicker at the bottom.


It's not a defect in production.

 
Link Posted: 8/21/2013 12:49:17 AM EDT
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If you have access to one of these, they work like pure magic.  I've used the one at work to chop a metric shit ton of stainless angle iron.  Did a couple of bottles, went through them like they were butter. (Pistorius diamond wet saw) (picture not from my workplace).

Link Posted: 8/21/2013 12:54:09 AM EDT
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You can save money. Soak thick cotton string in rubbing alcohol, wrap around bottle and light. When burned out, tap upper half on counter above trash can

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Link Posted: 8/21/2013 1:33:22 AM EDT
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Remember: Glass is not a solid, it's a ridgid liquid.

(it still flows -just very slowly )



If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  




I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".




It does indeed flow incredibly slowly, depending on the thickness and shape. Old glass panes will often have noticeable distortion in the lower half.


Except that it doesn't.





 
Link Posted: 8/21/2013 1:39:20 AM EDT
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Sorry... as cool as it is, I guess I am just a redneck and will keep my mason jars. Things just taste better in them

http://www.unitedrent-all-omaha.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/MasonJarMug16oz.jpg
 


Those are hard to clean, I can't fit my hand into them.

I just use regular bar glasses.
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That's odd.



My wife, whose degree is in Ceramic Engineering, says you don't know what you're talking about. According to her "it's a liquid on a molecular basis."





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Remember: Glass is not a solid, it's a ridgid liquid.

(it still flows -just very slowly )



If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  




I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".






That's odd.



My wife, whose degree is in Ceramic Engineering, says you don't know what you're talking about. According to her "it's a liquid on a molecular basis."







That doesn't mean it's right.  I once in college got into a big argument with a chemistry teacher who kept claiming we added salt to water when we boiled pasta to "raise the boiling point" so the pasta cooks faster.



Sure does, bud, use your college learning and put up on the board the formula and show me how much a few teaspoons of salt raises the boiling point of a few quarts of water.  Ohhh -- science.  It works, bitches.



As to the glass, it's another goddamn urban legend.  Also repeated by teachers.



http://dwb.unl.edu/Teacher/NSF/C01/C01Links/www.ualberta.ca/~bderksen/windowpane.html



 
Link Posted: 8/21/2013 1:49:59 AM EDT
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Yup.  I love my mason jars.
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As to the glass, it's another goddamn urban legend.  Also repeated by teachers.

http://dwb.unl.edu/Teacher/NSF/C01/C01Links/www.ualberta.ca/~bderksen/windowpane.html
 
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This is true. The reason older glass is thicker is because it was handspun oorrolled by hand.
Now they form it in molten tin which is denser than glass to make it uniform.
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That's odd.

My wife, whose degree is in Ceramic Engineering, says you don't know what you're talking about. According to her "it's a liquid on a molecular basis."


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Remember: Glass is not a solid, it's a ridgid liquid.
(it still flows -just very slowly )

If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  


I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".



That's odd.

My wife, whose degree is in Ceramic Engineering, says you don't know what you're talking about. According to her "it's a liquid on a molecular basis."





Her degree is in what???
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Her degree is in what???
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Remember: Glass is not a solid, it's a ridgid liquid.
(it still flows -just very slowly )

If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  


I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".



That's odd.

My wife, whose degree is in Ceramic Engineering, says you don't know what you're talking about. According to her "it's a liquid on a molecular basis."





Her degree is in what???


I think that means pottery.
Link Posted: 8/21/2013 4:41:46 AM EDT
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Quick, somebody get a treadmill!!!
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Now they form it in molten tin which is denser than glass to make it uniform.
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As to the glass, it's another goddamn urban legend.  Also repeated by teachers.

http://dwb.unl.edu/Teacher/NSF/C01/C01Links/www.ualberta.ca/~bderksen/windowpane.html
 

This is true. The reason older glass is thicker is because it was handspun oorrolled by hand.
Now they form it in molten tin which is denser than glass to make it uniform.



Yep, to expound on that...  Before the float process was standardized they used a number of methods to take a glob of glass and turn it into a sheet of glass.  The common theme to all these methods was mechanically stretching the glass from glob to plate.  When you mechanically stretch anything it doesn't make a perfectly flat sheet.  (Reference your preschool years and flattening the Playdoh™.)  So the old dead folks, not being dumbasses, decided that like the Egyptions with the pyramids the thick end goes down and the thin end goes up in the window frame.
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Growing up in a house built in the late 1800's, I can attest to that liquid thing.  You can tell the original glass in the windows, as it was slowly flowing and making its way to the bottom.
 
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Growing up in a house built in the late 1800's, I can attest to that liquid thing.  You can tell the original glass in the windows, as it was slowly flowing and making its way to the bottom.
 
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If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  
Growing up in a house built in the late 1800's, I can attest to that liquid thing.  You can tell the original glass in the windows, as it was slowly flowing and making its way to the bottom.
 
Causality... how does it work?  





See the thorough debunking link above.



ETA: Unless you were alive during the late 1800s and saw the glass being installed in order to compare it to how it looks today, then you have no frame of reference with which to draw that conclusion.





 
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Now thats just mean.....funny....but mean.
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Now thats just mean.....funny....but mean.


I was just thinking, maybe she works at the Pottery Barn.
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Remember: Glass is not a solid, it's a ridgid liquid.
(it still flows -just very slowly )

If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  


I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".


It does indeed flow incredibly slowly, depending on the thickness and shape. Old glass panes will often have noticeable distortion in the lower half.


gravity is a bitch
Uhh wut?



Seriously.

Old buildind being restored will have the panes thicker at the bottom...

They are s..l..o..w..l..y.. dripping  

Link Posted: 8/21/2013 5:13:59 AM EDT
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sheet glass used to be blown into giant bottles that were sectioned and flattened





In this manufacturing process glass is blown into a cylindrical iron mould. The ends are cut off and a cut is made down the side of the cylinder. The cut cylinder is then placed in an oven where the cylinder unrolls into a flat glass sheet. William J. Blenko used this method in the early 1900s to make stained glass. These imperfect panes have led to the misconception that glass is actually a high-viscosity fluid at room temperature, which is not the case.










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  I have seen TONS of older buildings with the glass thicker at the bottom.
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Uhh wut?



Seriously.

Old buildind being restored will have the panes thicker at the bottom...

They are s..l..o..w..l..y.. dripping  


Unless you are trolling, no just no. Glass is not liquid, it does not flow, old windows have irregular not because they are flowing but because glass making tech was not that great

  I have seen TONS of older buildings with the glass thicker at the bottom.
It's not a defect in production.
 


Older glass was made with a spinning technique that due to the centrifugal force effect had thicker glass on the outsides. It makes logical sense that when assembling a large pane of glass the thicker part is placed on the bottom.

Anyone who thinks glass is a slow moving liquid, or that old production glass is thicker on the bottom is due to dripping is 100% wrong. Please so some research. It's just not true. You are wrong.

To the guy who said his wife is a ceramics engineer. Tell her to re-review her textbook. Glass is an amorphous solid. It doesn't have a crystalline or organized structure. It is absolutely not a slow flowing liquid. That is 100% wrong.

ETA: it's scary that some or you guys get to vote. I have a baby on the way and I'm terrified at what BS she is going to learn in school by uneducated, barely passed their exams, teachers.
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That doesn't mean it's right.  I once in college got into a big argument with a chemistry teacher who kept claiming we added salt to water when we boiled pasta to "raise the boiling point" so the pasta cooks faster.

Sure does, bud, use your college learning and put up on the board the formula and show me how much a few teaspoons of salt raises the boiling point of a few quarts of water.  Ohhh -- science.  It works, bitches.

As to the glass, it's another goddamn urban legend.  Also repeated by teachers.

http://dwb.unl.edu/Teacher/NSF/C01/C01Links/www.ualberta.ca/~bderksen/windowpane.html
 
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Remember: Glass is not a solid, it's a ridgid liquid.
(it still flows -just very slowly )

If you keep your glasses long enough they will turn into saucers.  


I hope you don't actually believe that. Glass is an amorphous solid. It does not "flow slowly".



That's odd.

My wife, whose degree is in Ceramic Engineering, says you don't know what you're talking about. According to her "it's a liquid on a molecular basis."



That doesn't mean it's right.  I once in college got into a big argument with a chemistry teacher who kept claiming we added salt to water when we boiled pasta to "raise the boiling point" so the pasta cooks faster.

Sure does, bud, use your college learning and put up on the board the formula and show me how much a few teaspoons of salt raises the boiling point of a few quarts of water.  Ohhh -- science.  It works, bitches.

As to the glass, it's another goddamn urban legend.  Also repeated by teachers.

http://dwb.unl.edu/Teacher/NSF/C01/C01Links/www.ualberta.ca/~bderksen/windowpane.html
 


That old myth sure is a pane to dispel.

I'm sure the tendency for the thicker portion of the pane to be at the bottom had nothing to do with it being easier for the glazier to install or repair them thicker end down... nope, can't be.

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Do we really have members claiming that glass is a slow flowing liquid?

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Centripetal force, not centrifugal.  

That's all I got to add.
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Old glass manufacturing methods that produce glass with inconsistant thickness:

Crown Glass

Clinder blown  This one actually references the misconception we are battling.

Broad Sheet

Modern methods that produce glass as we know it today:

Fourcault Process  Still not as good as the float process but far better then previous methods.

Float Glass

Imperfect glass was the norm until the early 1900's and "perfect" glass as we know it today didn't come about until the '50's.  No slumping, sagging or creep just imperfect manufactuing techniques.
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Sorry... as cool as it is, I guess I am just a redneck and will keep my mason jars. Things just taste better in them

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I've seen those advertised as "Redneck wine glasses".
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