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Posted: 8/16/2013 8:50:46 PM EDT
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Joseph Stalin is argueably responsible for the deaths of way more people than Hitler, yet his name was nein mentioned in my years of schooling. I am disgusted by what I know happened to the Jewish people during the Hitler years, but why no coverage in the textbooks of what happened to the people of the USSR? Or the #'s of non jewish people hitler had killed? Because he was a leftist. 
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Posted: 8/16/2013 8:53:21 PM EDT
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We do not talk about Obama's kinfolk in America. It is not good for the DemocRatic party
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Posted: 8/16/2013 8:53:44 PM EDT
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Hitler had charisma.
 Actually not kidding there. Also, Stalin was an ally for some time and his killing was pretty covered up compared to Hitler.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 8:54:47 PM EDT
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Why more negative press about Hitler than Stalin? Hitler persecuted the Jews and guess who has a lot of influence in this nation? Ask your elected official in Congress to vote or speak against the Izzys. Second, Stalin was equal opportunity and affirmative action bastage and killed people regardless of their ethnicity.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 8:56:14 PM EDT
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Wasn't it Pol Pot who killed more civilians than any other dictator?
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Posted: 8/16/2013 8:56:47 PM EDT
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Joseph Stalin is argueably responsible for the deaths of way more people than Hitler, yet his name was nein mentioned in my years of schooling. I am disgusted by what I know happened to the Jewish people during the Hitler years, but why no coverage in the textbooks of what happened to the people of the USSR? Or the #'s of non jewish people hitler had killed? Leftists prefer not to remind people of communists failings. It might scare people away from the "proper" implementation they so desperately plan for. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 8:56:54 PM EDT
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Nearly all of the Executive Branch, half the Legislative and just under half (on a good day) of the Judicial Branch emulate his beliefs.
And he hated Nazis back when it was popular, so mostly all was forgiven. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:00:14 PM EDT
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Very simple, actually.
Russia was our "ally" in World War II. There is a natural tendency not to talk about the things which might prove an embarrassment in terms of your choice of allies. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:00:16 PM EDT
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Because he was a leftist. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Joseph Stalin is argueably responsible for the deaths of way more people than Hitler, yet his name was nein mentioned in my years of schooling. I am disgusted by what I know happened to the Jewish people during the Hitler years, but why no coverage in the textbooks of what happened to the people of the USSR? Or the #'s of non jewish people hitler had killed? Because he was a leftist. So was Hitler...Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party) Same reason we don't hear about Pol Pot.... |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:01:32 PM EDT
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Because he was a leftist. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Joseph Stalin is argueably responsible for the deaths of way more people than Hitler, yet his name was nein mentioned in my years of schooling. I am disgusted by what I know happened to the Jewish people during the Hitler years, but why no coverage in the textbooks of what happened to the people of the USSR? Or the #'s of non jewish people hitler had killed? Because he was a leftist. So was Hitler. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:02:52 PM EDT
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Quoted: Joseph Stalin is argueably responsible for the deaths of way more people than Hitler, yet his name was nein mentioned in my years of schooling. I am disgusted by what I know happened to the Jewish people during the Hitler years, but why no coverage in the textbooks of what happened to the people of the USSR? Or the #'s of non jewish people hitler had killed? .....or the chi-com purge....or Pol Pot....or the Belgian Congo....or Ethiopia, Rwanda or Biafra? Tons of people were exterminated in all those places. All by tyrants, and the victims were basically disarmed beforehand. Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis 
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:04:44 PM EDT
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So was Hitler. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Joseph Stalin is argueably responsible for the deaths of way more people than Hitler, yet his name was nein mentioned in my years of schooling. I am disgusted by what I know happened to the Jewish people during the Hitler years, but why no coverage in the textbooks of what happened to the people of the USSR? Or the #'s of non jewish people hitler had killed? Because he was a leftist. So was Hitler. Ummmm, yes and no. His socialist policies tended left, but his arch nationalism was extreme right wing. You cannot quantify Hitler on the political spectrum using American yardsticks of measurement. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:04:50 PM EDT
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Very simple, actually. Russia was our "ally" in World War II. There is a natural tendency not to talk about the things which might prove an embarrassment in terms of your choice of allies. So far, your explanation is winning |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:08:11 PM EDT
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The winner writes the history and all that shit...
Stalin & Mao were quiet, boring crazies. Hitler was eccentric and charismatic to his people. Plus, Stalin couldn't goose step worth a fuck. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:09:42 PM EDT
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We do hear about him ad nauseum.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:09:56 PM EDT
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Stalin had the better mustache clearly.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:10:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why more negative press about Hitler than Stalin? Hitler persecuted the Jews and guess who has a lot of influence in this nation? Ask your elected official in Congress to vote or speak against the Izzys. Second, Stalin was equal opportunity and affirmative action bastage and killed people regardless of their ethnicity. In. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:10:22 PM EDT
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He won. Hitler lost.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:11:10 PM EDT
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Wasn't it Pol Pot who killed more civilians than any other dictator? He killed a lot of people and displaced many more, but not as many as Hiltler and Stalin. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:14:07 PM EDT
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He killed a lot of people and displaced many more, but not as many as Hiltler and Stalin. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wasn't it Pol Pot who killed more civilians than any other dictator? He killed a lot of people and displaced many more, but not as many as Hiltler and Stalin. To date, Nazi Germany is the only civilization in history which has ever attempted the systematic and mechanized extermination of an entire class of people. Stalin may have killed more, but it was over a longer period of time, and not as systematic as Hitler. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:17:30 PM EDT
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A while ago I was looking at facebook and a very educated friend I know posted something about how she had was not aware of the scale of genocide that the Japanese committed in China and other places during the WW2 era. I credit a lot of Jewish academics for keeping the nazi genocide in the minds of people and I wish the Chinese, Russians, Cambodians, and others would be as effective in educating younger generations about the dangers of communism and fascism.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:22:49 PM EDT
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Who primarily runs education, the media & hollywood? People of Jewish origin, who are incidentally also overwhelmingly marxist/communist. You know nothing of communist atrocities because that wouldn't be wise for those who are running those systems of information and education. You 'know' what the media wants you to 'know'. At the same time you think that same media and education system has informed you correctly about Hitler and WWII. I dare you to have a free thought, and start looking into WWII and what has transpired since for yourself.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:29:21 PM EDT
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Who primarily runs education, the media & hollywood? People of Jewish origin, who are incidentally also overwhelmingly marxist/communist. You know nothing of communist atrocities because that wouldn't be wise for those who are running those systems of information and education. You 'know' what the media wants you to 'know'. At the same time you think that same media has informed you correctly about Hitler and WWII. I dare you to have a free thought, and start looking into WWII and what has transpired since for yourself. Wow, we never thought of that. Thank you oh great 13er! |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:32:16 PM EDT
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Nazis make an excellent enemy and documented their abuses thoroughly. Our relationship with the Soviet Union was complicated and did not lend itself to the ease of constructing them as the villainous enemy that the Nazis were.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:33:12 PM EDT
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Stalin, and Mao even more so, are heroes of the left - ergo they get a pass.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:44:21 PM EDT
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Doesn't fit the right profile. Stalin was easily the greatest mass murderer in history, but so what.
Japanese were horrible in their treatment of soldiers and civilians during the war. Hell, they still fly the same flag, but who cares. Italian fascists? Not hardly even mentioned in history. Mussolini's still got family in the present government. Romanians? One of Germany's main allies on the eastern front. Nothing. Now the Germans, the mostly white, mostly Christian, and people most closely similiar to Americans, thats a different story. You must hate them and their country, children, inventions, culture etc etc. I could write more but why bother. The sheep do what their told regardless. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:45:45 PM EDT
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There are plenty of surveys, formal and informal, that show far from "everyone" knows who hitler is let alone what he did, especially among youth. This is true even in Europe. That said, it probably safe to assume even less know of Stalin.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:48:51 PM EDT
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Wasn't it Pol Pot who killed more civilians than any other dictator? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Wasn't it Pol Pot who killed more civilians than any other dictator? Highest percent of the population. From Wiki: The combined effects of executions, forced labor, malnutrition, and poor medical care caused the deaths of approximately 25 percent of the Cambodian population. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:49:20 PM EDT
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Ummmm, yes and no. His socialist policies tended left, but his arch nationalism was extreme right wing. You cannot quantify Hitler on the political spectrum using American yardsticks of measurement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Joseph Stalin is argueably responsible for the deaths of way more people than Hitler, yet his name was nein mentioned in my years of schooling. I am disgusted by what I know happened to the Jewish people during the Hitler years, but why no coverage in the textbooks of what happened to the people of the USSR? Or the #'s of non jewish people hitler had killed? Because he was a leftist. So was Hitler. Ummmm, yes and no. His socialist policies tended left, but his arch nationalism was extreme right wing. You cannot quantify Hitler on the political spectrum using American yardsticks of measurement. He was a left fascist. Rough translation quoted from Hitler............. "Why own it when you can just control it" Synergy of state and Corporation we now call it crony capitalism but historically it is Fascism. IIRC he also pointed out in Mein Kamph that there were many similarities to Communism, this bothered him apparently. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:50:12 PM EDT
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He won. Hitler lost. Winners write the history books. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:53:16 PM EDT
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He was a left fascist. Rough translation quoted from Hitler............. "Why own it when you can just control it" Synergy of state and Corporation we now call it crony capitalism but historically it is Fascism. IIRC he also pointed out in Mein Kamph that there were many similarities to Communism, this bothered him apparently. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Joseph Stalin is argueably responsible for the deaths of way more people than Hitler, yet his name was nein mentioned in my years of schooling. I am disgusted by what I know happened to the Jewish people during the Hitler years, but why no coverage in the textbooks of what happened to the people of the USSR? Or the #'s of non jewish people hitler had killed? Because he was a leftist. So was Hitler. Ummmm, yes and no. His socialist policies tended left, but his arch nationalism was extreme right wing. You cannot quantify Hitler on the political spectrum using American yardsticks of measurement. He was a left fascist. Rough translation quoted from Hitler............. "Why own it when you can just control it" Synergy of state and Corporation we now call it crony capitalism but historically it is Fascism. IIRC he also pointed out in Mein Kamph that there were many similarities to Communism, this bothered him apparently. My understanding is that the Nazis chose to demonize the communists (and the communists did the same with the Nazis) because they were competing for the same group of people while having somewhat similar platforms. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:56:12 PM EDT
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Because education, entertainment and media are infested with Communist agitators.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:56:51 PM EDT
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Because of the race issue involved with the Holocaust. Hitler targeted people of a different race/ethnicity which somehow makes genocide worse. Stalin just killed other Russians so no really gave a shit.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:58:40 PM EDT
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Doesn't fit the right profile. Stalin was easily the greatest mass murderer in history, but so what. Japanese were horrible in their treatment of soldiers and civilians during the war. Hell, they still fly the same flag, but who cares. Italian fascists? Not hardly even mentioned in history. Mussolini's still got family in the present government. Romanians? One of Germany's main allies on the eastern front. Nothing. Now the Germans, the mostly white, mostly Christian, and people most closely similiar to Americans, thats a different story. You must hate them and their country, children, inventions, culture etc etc. I could write more but why bother. The sheep do what their told regardless. My guess as to why nobody mentions the Romanians is that they were Bullet and Artillery sponges. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:00:32 PM EDT
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Simply due to US propaganda painting him as America's friend and conveniently leaving out the invasions of Finland,the Baltics and Poland - never mind genocide against the Ukraine because fuck them.
It doesn't fit in the narrative that America saved Europe from all speakin' German to point out that the US allied with an even bigger asshole who got half of Europe and the 3rd world in the bargain. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:02:46 PM EDT
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Because of the race issue involved with the Holocaust. Hitler targeted people of a different race/ethnicity which somehow makes genocide worse. Stalin just killed other Russians so no really gave a shit. Other Russians like Ukrainians and Poles.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:04:27 PM EDT
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Stalin was a Democrat. Those fuckers allow and forgive KKK members, child rapists, adulterers whatever as long as they are faithful to the casue.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:04:45 PM EDT
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Doesn't fit the right profile. Stalin was easily the greatest mass murderer in history, but so what. Japanese were horrible in their treatment of soldiers and civilians during the war. Hell, they still fly the same flag, but who cares. Italian fascists? Not hardly even mentioned in history. Mussolini's still got family in the present government. Romanians? One of Germany's main allies on the eastern front. Nothing. Now the Germans, the mostly white, mostly Christian, and people most closely similiar to Americans, thats a different story. You must hate them and their country, children, inventions, culture etc etc. I could write more but why bother. The sheep do what their told regardless. I'm with you on this. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:05:35 PM EDT
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I remember learning about him and the evils of Communism back in school. I graduated in 2006.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:09:48 PM EDT
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Other Russians like Ukrainians and Poles. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because of the race issue involved with the Holocaust. Hitler targeted people of a different race/ethnicity which somehow makes genocide worse. Stalin just killed other Russians so no really gave a shit. Other Russians like Ukrainians and Poles. And Latvians,Lithuanians and Estonians,Cossaks,Chechens,Ingush,other Georgians... Remember,he wasn't a Russian even! His last name was Jugashvili. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:17:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryMy understanding is that the Nazis chose to demonize the communists (and the communists did the same with the Nazis) because they were competing for the same group of people while having somewhat similar platforms. They were. Something you will never be taught in School is real history. For instance WW1 German leadership supporting/funding Lenin and his rebellion/coup. Hatred of Jews a lot of which stemmed from Communist (in the European view) being largely Jewish phenomenon. Lenin and his cronies and many of Stalin's were said to be Jews, and they had a way of exterminating and persecuting Christians whatever the type. True or not that is how they viewed it then and many still do. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:18:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who primarily runs education, the media & hollywood? People of Jewish origin, who are incidentally also overwhelmingly marxist/communist. You know nothing of communist atrocities because that wouldn't be wise for those who are running those systems of information and education. You 'know' what the media wants you to 'know'. At the same time you think that same media and education system has informed you correctly about Hitler and WWII. I dare you to have a free thought, and start looking into WWII and what has transpired since for yourself.  "It's the Jooos!" |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:22:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn't fit the right profile. Stalin was easily the greatest mass murderer in history, but so what. Japanese were horrible in their treatment of soldiers and civilians during the war. Hell, they still fly the same flag, but who cares. Italian fascists? Not hardly even mentioned in history. Mussolini's still got family in the present government. Romanians? One of Germany's main allies on the eastern front. Nothing. Now the Germans, the mostly white, mostly Christian, and people most closely similiar to Americans, thats a different story. You must hate them and their country, children, inventions, culture etc etc. I could write more but why bother. The sheep do what their told regardless. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:35:31 PM EDT
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They were. Something you will never be taught in School is real history. For instance WW1 German leadership supporting/funding Lenin and his rebellion/coup. Hatred of Jews a lot of which stemmed from Communist (in the European view) being largely Jewish phenomenon. Lenin and his cronies and many of Stalin's were said to be Jews, and they had a way of exterminating and persecuting Christians whatever the type. True or not that is how they viewed it then and many still do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
My understanding is that the Nazis chose to demonize the communists (and the communists did the same with the Nazis) because they were competing for the same group of people while having somewhat similar platforms. They were. Something you will never be taught in School is real history. For instance WW1 German leadership supporting/funding Lenin and his rebellion/coup. Hatred of Jews a lot of which stemmed from Communist (in the European view) being largely Jewish phenomenon. Lenin and his cronies and many of Stalin's were said to be Jews, and they had a way of exterminating and persecuting Christians whatever the type. True or not that is how they viewed it then and many still do. A habit I learned from my Grandpa was to try and understand the mindset of your enemies, including learning their language and reading their writings. Based on what he's shared with me of his activities for the government in the 50's, his fluency in Russian is not surprising. But as a result, I've read a lot of communist and socialist written books. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:44:46 PM EDT
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Wow, we never thought of that. Thank you oh great 13er! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who primarily runs education, the media & hollywood? People of Jewish origin, who are incidentally also overwhelmingly marxist/communist. You know nothing of communist atrocities because that wouldn't be wise for those who are running those systems of information and education. You 'know' what the media wants you to 'know'. At the same time you think that same media has informed you correctly about Hitler and WWII. I dare you to have a free thought, and start looking into WWII and what has transpired since for yourself. Wow, we never thought of that. Thank you oh great 13er! Did he dare us to have a free thought? I'm not sure we're ready for that. Are you ready to breathe the clear, cold air there on the mountaintop with him? |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:46:39 PM EDT
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Google Walter Duranty .
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:53:16 PM EDT
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Stalin killed with economic policies (like force collecting grain from Ukraine, etc) and using the NKVD to round people up to the gulags. He targeted his own people based on his own political needs and for slave labour and to gain "progress". He killed about, 20 million from like 1935 to like 1950 (ballpark).
Hitler killed like 6.5 million people using industrial genocide, actual death camps, mass executions. He didn't kill for political purposes or to force people to modernize, he did it because of race/age/etc. He killed that many people in only like 2 years. Imagine how many he would have killed had he won. also, communist agenda in our education and media won't shed light in Stalin, and also because we allied with him in WWII. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:55:07 PM EDT
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The death of one man is a tragedy the death of millions is a statistic - Joseph Stalin
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Posted: 8/16/2013 11:00:16 PM EDT
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News Flash,
Most people don't give a flying fuck about anything outside of their daily life/hobbies. But that does not sound as fun as conspiracy huh? |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 11:05:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Stalin killed with economic policies (like force collecting grain from Ukraine, etc) and using the NKVD to round people up to the gulags. He targeted his own people based on his own political needs and for slave labour and to gain "progress". He killed about, 20 million from like 1935 to like 1950 (ballpark). Hitler killed like 6.5 million people using industrial genocide, actual death camps, mass executions. He didn't kill for political purposes or to force people to modernize, he did it because of race/age/etc. He killed that many people in only like 2 years. Imagine how many he would have killed had he won. also, communist agenda in our education and media won't shed light in Stalin, and also because we allied with him in WWII. The NAZIs absolutely killed and enslaved for political purposes, among other "reasons." They killed 10-11 million, not including the war deaths. They killed that many over a span of more than a decade, though the vast majority were killed 1942 to 1945. People choose to ignore what they were taught in school about the deaths in the Soviet Union to make a stupid political statement. "Yarg, left bad, right good." |
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