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Posted: 7/20/2013 12:28:10 PM EDT
If you are not shooting a suppressed weapon...

What makes 300 AAC Blackout better than 7.62x39?
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Straighter case walls.
Link Posted: 7/20/2013 12:29:36 PM EDT
Everything the same as for 5.56x45 except the barrel.

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Link Posted: 7/20/2013 12:29:52 PM EDT
It's more easily shot through AR style rifles? Same mag, bolts, ect.
Link Posted: 7/20/2013 12:30:31 PM EDT
Can you find me some cheap 7.62x39 reloading supplies please? Thanks!


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Link Posted: 7/20/2013 12:30:44 PM EDT
I don't own one, but from a handloading perspective it's seems brass and bullet selection are much better. Especially bullets
Link Posted: 7/20/2013 12:32:54 PM EDT
If you reload, better selection of bullets to choose from. Easier to tailor the rounds to what you intend to use them for.
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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Can you find me some cheap 7.62x39 reloading supplies please? Thanks!


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How much does it cost to reload 1000 rounds of .300 vs. buy a case of wolf 7.62x39?

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Link Posted: 7/20/2013 12:33:25 PM EDT
Cause AR15.
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Better bullet selection. This isn’t important if your goal is to do magdumps, But it makes a big difference if you want to do anything else.

Works better in an AR platform. This is real important if you are already invested in the AR-15 and don’t have any AK stuff. (Magazines and parts become real easy to get)

And, look at it like this. Outside of being able to get crappy Russian ammo at a decent price, why is the 7.62x39 any better than the .300.
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How much does it cost to reload 1000 rounds of .300 vs. buy a case of wolf 7.62x39?

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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Can you find me some cheap 7.62x39 reloading supplies please? Thanks!


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How much does it cost to reload 1000 rounds of .300 vs. buy a case of wolf 7.62x39?

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Using your premise: what will be the difference in accuracy and terminal ballistics between those handloads and the Wolf rounds?
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Originally Posted By Dannofree:
Straighter case walls.
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Greeeeaaaaat. So straighter mags, but more drag on extraction.
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Originally Posted By Dannofree:
Straighter case walls.
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Straighter walls is a good thing? Doesn't a tapered pin (cartridge) fit into a tapered hole (chamber) far easier and more reliably than a straight pin into a straight hole? What am I not getting? ...Maybe straight magazines operate more reliably than curved ones?
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
If you are not shooting a suppressed weapon...

What makes 300 AAC Blackout better than 7.62x39?
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Um. It feeds in an ar15 and is easily reload able?
Link Posted: 7/20/2013 12:38:01 PM EDT
76239 mags can be a crapshoot

300BLK use standard AR mags.
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How much does it cost to reload 1000 rounds of .300 vs. buy a case of wolf 7.62x39?

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Originally Posted By ElectricSheep556:
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Can you find me some cheap 7.62x39 reloading supplies please? Thanks!


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How much does it cost to reload 1000 rounds of .300 vs. buy a case of wolf 7.62x39?

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I have not looked, but, can you buy a case of Wolf 7.62x39 Subsonics?

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Originally Posted By Kalahnikid:
76239 mags can be a crapshoot

300BLK use standard AR mags.
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So... PMAGs are the reason to go 300 BLK
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I have not looked, but, can you buy a case of Wolf 7.62x39 Subsonics?

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Originally Posted By ElectricSheep556:
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Can you find me some cheap 7.62x39 reloading supplies please? Thanks!


Oh wait!


How much does it cost to reload 1000 rounds of .300 vs. buy a case of wolf 7.62x39?

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I have not looked, but, can you buy a case of Wolf 7.62x39 Subsonics?


They're on the same shelf as the .311 diameter 225 grain SMKs......
Link Posted: 7/20/2013 12:45:15 PM EDT
No suppressor or reloading?
Then I guess...nothing.
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Originally Posted By wunbadweel:

They're on the same shelf as the .311 diameter 225 grain SMKs......
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Originally Posted By wunbadweel:
Originally Posted By Fatalwishes:
Originally Posted By ElectricSheep556:
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Can you find me some cheap 7.62x39 reloading supplies please? Thanks!


Oh wait!


How much does it cost to reload 1000 rounds of .300 vs. buy a case of wolf 7.62x39?

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I have not looked, but, can you buy a case of Wolf 7.62x39 Subsonics?


They're on the same shelf as the .311 diameter 225 grain SMKs......


Kinda what I figured.....

I would think you could roll your own using heavier 7.62x54 bullets......

To me having a .300 BO is to be able to use a suppressor and without subsonics...it's kinda pointless.

That is what the .300 BO has over the 7.62.x39

Non subsonic wise, platform is everything.

Using 90% of my current parts is a bonus.......changing the barrel is a snap.
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Using pull down's, I reload 300blk for about 18¢-22¢ each. $180-$220 for a 1000 rounds.


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Using your premise: what will be the difference in accuracy and terminal ballistics between those handloads and the Wolf rounds?
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Originally Posted By wunbadweel:
Originally Posted By ElectricSheep556:
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Can you find me some cheap 7.62x39 reloading supplies please? Thanks!


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How much does it cost to reload 1000 rounds of .300 vs. buy a case of wolf 7.62x39?

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Using your premise: what will be the difference in accuracy and terminal ballistics between those handloads and the Wolf rounds?

This
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Originally Posted By ScooterInVegas:

Using pull down's, I reload 300blk for about 18¢-22¢ each. $180-$220 for a 1000 rounds.


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Originally Posted By ElectricSheep556

How much does it cost to reload 1000 rounds of .300 vs. buy a case of wolf 7.62x39?

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Using pull down's, I reload 300blk for about 18¢-22¢ each. $180-$220 for a 1000 rounds.




Which projectile are you using?
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Originally Posted By wunbadweel:

They're on the same shelf as the .311 diameter 225 grain SMKs......
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Originally Posted By Fatalwishes:
Originally Posted By ElectricSheep556:
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Can you find me some cheap 7.62x39 reloading supplies please? Thanks!


Oh wait!


How much does it cost to reload 1000 rounds of .300 vs. buy a case of wolf 7.62x39?

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I have not looked, but, can you buy a case of Wolf 7.62x39 Subsonics?


They're on the same shelf as the .311 diameter 225 grain SMKs......

.311 projectiles are non existent exept for online
Link Posted: 7/20/2013 1:01:15 PM EDT
Zero zip zilch nada, 300 was a dumb idea from the get-go.
Link Posted: 7/20/2013 1:02:58 PM EDT
Easy

Pistol powder vs rifle powder.

300 BLK is built for short barreled rifles. The powder cooks off in a 7 inch barrel, no fireball.

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.311 projectiles are non existent exept for online
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Originally Posted By wunbadweel:
Originally Posted By Fatalwishes:
Originally Posted By ElectricSheep556:
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Can you find me some cheap 7.62x39 reloading supplies please? Thanks!


Oh wait!


How much does it cost to reload 1000 rounds of .300 vs. buy a case of wolf 7.62x39?

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I have not looked, but, can you buy a case of Wolf 7.62x39 Subsonics?


They're on the same shelf as the .311 diameter 225 grain SMKs......

.311 projectiles are non existent exept for online


Sarcmeter recalibration necessary.
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Bam.......Well one day, Maybe.

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300 BLK is far superior at blowing up 5.56 rifles than 7.62x39 because 300blk will chamber into and fire in a 5.56 rifle.

Other than that, 300blk does nothing better than 7.62x39.

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Originally Posted By Bullet_:
300 BLK is far superior at blowing up 5.56 rifles than 7.62x39 because 300blk will chamber into and fire in a 5.56 rifle.

Other than that, 300blk does nothing better than 7.62x39.

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Please take no offense at this, but: you DO realize a .308 diameter bullet won't fit where a .224 bullet goes, right?

Or am I missing something?


ETA: Okay, I can see where this could happen. Never considered this. Hmmmm.

ETA#2: Yeah, it could happen, but one would need to make several significant errors in a concurrent manner, and be drunk.
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Please take no offense at this, but: you DO realize a .308 diameter bullet won't fit where a .224 bullet goes, right?

Or am I missing something?
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Originally Posted By wunbadweel:
Originally Posted By Bullet_:
300 BLK is far superior at blowing up 5.56 rifles than 7.62x39 because 300blk will chamber into and fire in a 5.56 rifle.

Other than that, 300blk does nothing better than 7.62x39.



Please take no offense at this, but: you DO realize a .308 diameter bullet won't fit where a .224 bullet goes, right?

Or am I missing something?

Yup.
The bullet will get shoved in the case if the crimp isn't tight.
I'll dig up the youtube vid that shows how easy it is to do and post it here.
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[>:/P
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Originally Posted By Bullet_:
300 BLK is far superior at blowing up 5.56 rifles than 7.62x39 because 300blk will chamber into and fire in a 5.56 rifle.

Other than that, 300blk does nothing better than 7.62x39.

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Originally Posted By Bullet_:

Yup.
The bullet will get shoved in the case if the crimp isn't tight.
I'll dig up the youtube vid that shows how easy it is to do and post it here.
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Originally Posted By Bullet_:
Originally Posted By wunbadweel:
Originally Posted By Bullet_:
300 BLK is far superior at blowing up 5.56 rifles than 7.62x39 because 300blk will chamber into and fire in a 5.56 rifle.

Other than that, 300blk does nothing better than 7.62x39.



Please take no offense at this, but: you DO realize a .308 diameter bullet won't fit where a .224 bullet goes, right?

Or am I missing something?

Yup.
The bullet will get shoved in the case if the crimp isn't tight.
I'll dig up the youtube vid that shows how easy it is to do and post it here.


Loose crimp and very short loaded case length with short, light projectiles, gorilla punch on the forward assist....yeah, it could happen.
Much as a .40 S&W can fire out of a .45 ACP barrel, but with much less tragic results.
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Straighter walls is a good thing? Doesn't a tapered pin (cartridge) fit into a tapered hole (chamber) far easier and more reliably than a straight pin into a straight hole? What am I not getting? ...Maybe straight magazines operate more reliably than curved ones?
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Originally Posted By injun-ear:
Originally Posted By Dannofree:
Straighter case walls.


Straighter walls is a good thing? Doesn't a tapered pin (cartridge) fit into a tapered hole (chamber) far easier and more reliably than a straight pin into a straight hole? What am I not getting? ...Maybe straight magazines operate more reliably than curved ones?
Straighter case walls= works in 223 magazines and the AR15 magwell. 7.62x39 doesnt feed well in a magazine that fits an AR15 lower.
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Why?

Because they're sexy.


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Bam.......Well one day, Maybe.

http://i.imgur.com/4BWyzcO.jpg
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Cause AR15.



Bam.......Well one day, Maybe.

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Niiiice!
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Originally Posted By wunbadweel:


Loose crimp and very short loaded case length with short, light projectiles, gorilla punch on the forward assist....yeah, it could happen.
Much as a .40 S&W can fire out of a .45 ACP barrel, but with much less tragic results.
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Originally Posted By wunbadweel:
Originally Posted By Bullet_:

Yup.
The bullet will get shoved in the case if the crimp isn't tight.
I'll dig up the youtube vid that shows how easy it is to do and post it here.


Loose crimp and very short loaded case length with short, light projectiles, gorilla punch on the forward assist....yeah, it could happen.
Much as a .40 S&W can fire out of a .45 ACP barrel, but with much less tragic results.

Originally Posted By molardog:
[>:/P
Originally Posted By Bullet_:
300 BLK is far superior at blowing up 5.56 rifles than 7.62x39 because 300blk will chamber into and fire in a 5.56 rifle.

Other than that, 300blk does nothing better than 7.62x39.




Found it.

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Which is exactly what makes it less reliable.
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Originally Posted By tc2k11:
Everything the same as for 5.56x45 except the barrel.

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This, above and beyond everything.
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Which projectile are you using?
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Originally Posted By ElectricSheep556
How much does it cost to reload 1000 rounds of .300 vs. buy a case of wolf 7.62x39?
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Using pull down's, I reload 300blk for about 18¢-22¢ each. $180-$220 for a 1000 rounds.

Which projectile are you using?

??

Been wanting to get into 300blk but I've never found a source for bulk lead bullets.
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I like that handguard. Got a link to the product?
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I like that handguard. Got a link to the product?
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I like that handguard. Got a link to the product?


Here is the manufacturers store:

Diamondhead V RS-T

Do a web search and you can find it cheaper.
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Bullet selection

.308 > .311


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Originally Posted By Bullet_:
300 BLK is far superior at blowing up 5.56 rifles than 7.62x39 because 300blk will chamber into and fire in a 5.56 rifle.

Other than that, 300blk does nothing better than 7.62x39.

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Shoot a ten round group at 100 yards and there is your answer.
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Bullet selection

.308 > .311


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Why not a barrel/chamber optimized for .308 bullets loaded into 7.62x39 cases? I've been under the impression--perhaps falsely--that 7.62x39 AR barrels are precisely this.
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Better mags
Better bullet selection
Easy to find components
More consistent factory ammo as opposed to commie shit
Keep money in the US as opposed to some combloc shitholes
same parts as standard AR pattern rifles
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Why not a barrel/chamber optimized for .308 bullets loaded into 7.62x39 cases? I've been under the impression--perhaps falsely--that 7.62x39 AR barrels are precisely this.
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Originally Posted By injun-ear:
Originally Posted By MadProfessor:
Bullet selection

.308 > .311




Why not a barrel/chamber optimized for .308 bullets loaded into 7.62x39 cases? I've been under the impression--perhaps falsely--that 7.62x39 AR barrels are precisely this.


Some are. Some aren't.
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