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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:28:10 AM EST
If you are not shooting a suppressed weapon...

What makes 300 AAC Blackout better than 7.62x39?
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:29:27 AM EST
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Straighter case walls.
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:29:36 AM EST
Everything the same as for 5.56x45 except the barrel.

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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:29:52 AM EST
It's more easily shot through AR style rifles? Same mag, bolts, ect.
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:30:31 AM EST
Can you find me some cheap 7.62x39 reloading supplies please? Thanks!


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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:30:44 AM EST
I don't own one, but from a handloading perspective it's seems brass and bullet selection are much better. Especially bullets
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:32:54 AM EST
If you reload, better selection of bullets to choose from. Easier to tailor the rounds to what you intend to use them for.
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:33:00 AM EST
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:33:25 AM EST
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:34:31 AM EST
Better bullet selection. This isn’t important if your goal is to do magdumps, But it makes a big difference if you want to do anything else.

Works better in an AR platform. This is real important if you are already invested in the AR-15 and don’t have any AK stuff. (Magazines and parts become real easy to get)

And, look at it like this. Outside of being able to get crappy Russian ammo at a decent price, why is the 7.62x39 any better than the .300.
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:34:33 AM EST
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Using your premise: what will be the difference in accuracy and terminal ballistics between those handloads and the Wolf rounds?
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:35:35 AM EST
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Straighter case walls.
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Greeeeaaaaat. So straighter mags, but more drag on extraction.
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:37:04 AM EST
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Straighter walls is a good thing? Doesn't a tapered pin (cartridge) fit into a tapered hole (chamber) far easier and more reliably than a straight pin into a straight hole? What am I not getting? ...Maybe straight magazines operate more reliably than curved ones?
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:37:10 AM EST
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What makes 300 AAC Blackout better than 7.62x39?
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Um. It feeds in an ar15 and is easily reload able?
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:38:01 AM EST
76239 mags can be a crapshoot

300BLK use standard AR mags.
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:38:32 AM EST
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I have not looked, but, can you buy a case of Wolf 7.62x39 Subsonics?

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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:39:52 AM EST
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So... PMAGs are the reason to go 300 BLK
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I have not looked, but, can you buy a case of Wolf 7.62x39 Subsonics?

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I have not looked, but, can you buy a case of Wolf 7.62x39 Subsonics?


They're on the same shelf as the .311 diameter 225 grain SMKs......
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:45:15 AM EST
No suppressor or reloading?
Then I guess...nothing.
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:54:26 AM EST
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I have not looked, but, can you buy a case of Wolf 7.62x39 Subsonics?


They're on the same shelf as the .311 diameter 225 grain SMKs......


Kinda what I figured.....

I would think you could roll your own using heavier 7.62x54 bullets......

To me having a .300 BO is to be able to use a suppressor and without subsonics...it's kinda pointless.

That is what the .300 BO has over the 7.62.x39

Non subsonic wise, platform is everything.

Using 90% of my current parts is a bonus.......changing the barrel is a snap.
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Posted: 7/20/2013 11:57:42 AM EST
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Using pull down's, I reload 300blk for about 18¢-22¢ each. $180-$220 for a 1000 rounds.


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Using your premise: what will be the difference in accuracy and terminal ballistics between those handloads and the Wolf rounds?

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Using pull down's, I reload 300blk for about 18¢-22¢ each. $180-$220 for a 1000 rounds.


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Using pull down's, I reload 300blk for about 18¢-22¢ each. $180-$220 for a 1000 rounds.




Which projectile are you using?
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I have not looked, but, can you buy a case of Wolf 7.62x39 Subsonics?


They're on the same shelf as the .311 diameter 225 grain SMKs......

.311 projectiles are non existent exept for online
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Zero zip zilch nada, 300 was a dumb idea from the get-go.
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Easy

Pistol powder vs rifle powder.

300 BLK is built for short barreled rifles. The powder cooks off in a 7 inch barrel, no fireball.

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Can you find me some cheap 7.62x39 reloading supplies please? Thanks!


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I have not looked, but, can you buy a case of Wolf 7.62x39 Subsonics?


They're on the same shelf as the .311 diameter 225 grain SMKs......

.311 projectiles are non existent exept for online


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300 BLK is far superior at blowing up 5.56 rifles than 7.62x39 because 300blk will chamber into and fire in a 5.56 rifle.

Other than that, 300blk does nothing better than 7.62x39.

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300 BLK is far superior at blowing up 5.56 rifles than 7.62x39 because 300blk will chamber into and fire in a 5.56 rifle.

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Please take no offense at this, but: you DO realize a .308 diameter bullet won't fit where a .224 bullet goes, right?

Or am I missing something?


ETA: Okay, I can see where this could happen. Never considered this. Hmmmm.

ETA#2: Yeah, it could happen, but one would need to make several significant errors in a concurrent manner, and be drunk.
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300 BLK is far superior at blowing up 5.56 rifles than 7.62x39 because 300blk will chamber into and fire in a 5.56 rifle.

Other than that, 300blk does nothing better than 7.62x39.



Please take no offense at this, but: you DO realize a .308 diameter bullet won't fit where a .224 bullet goes, right?

Or am I missing something?

Yup.
The bullet will get shoved in the case if the crimp isn't tight.
I'll dig up the youtube vid that shows how easy it is to do and post it here.
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Yup.
The bullet will get shoved in the case if the crimp isn't tight.
I'll dig up the youtube vid that shows how easy it is to do and post it here.
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300 BLK is far superior at blowing up 5.56 rifles than 7.62x39 because 300blk will chamber into and fire in a 5.56 rifle.

Other than that, 300blk does nothing better than 7.62x39.



Please take no offense at this, but: you DO realize a .308 diameter bullet won't fit where a .224 bullet goes, right?

Or am I missing something?

Yup.
The bullet will get shoved in the case if the crimp isn't tight.
I'll dig up the youtube vid that shows how easy it is to do and post it here.


Loose crimp and very short loaded case length with short, light projectiles, gorilla punch on the forward assist....yeah, it could happen.
Much as a .40 S&W can fire out of a .45 ACP barrel, but with much less tragic results.
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Posted: 7/20/2013 12:28:42 PM EST
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Straighter walls is a good thing? Doesn't a tapered pin (cartridge) fit into a tapered hole (chamber) far easier and more reliably than a straight pin into a straight hole? What am I not getting? ...Maybe straight magazines operate more reliably than curved ones?
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Straighter case walls.


Straighter walls is a good thing? Doesn't a tapered pin (cartridge) fit into a tapered hole (chamber) far easier and more reliably than a straight pin into a straight hole? What am I not getting? ...Maybe straight magazines operate more reliably than curved ones?
Straighter case walls= works in 223 magazines and the AR15 magwell. 7.62x39 doesnt feed well in a magazine that fits an AR15 lower.
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Loose crimp and very short loaded case length with short, light projectiles, gorilla punch on the forward assist....yeah, it could happen.
Much as a .40 S&W can fire out of a .45 ACP barrel, but with much less tragic results.
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Yup.
The bullet will get shoved in the case if the crimp isn't tight.
I'll dig up the youtube vid that shows how easy it is to do and post it here.


Loose crimp and very short loaded case length with short, light projectiles, gorilla punch on the forward assist....yeah, it could happen.
Much as a .40 S&W can fire out of a .45 ACP barrel, but with much less tragic results.

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300 BLK is far superior at blowing up 5.56 rifles than 7.62x39 because 300blk will chamber into and fire in a 5.56 rifle.

Other than that, 300blk does nothing better than 7.62x39.




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Which is exactly what makes it less reliable.
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Everything the same as for 5.56x45 except the barrel.

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Which projectile are you using?
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How much does it cost to reload 1000 rounds of .300 vs. buy a case of wolf 7.62x39?
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Using pull down's, I reload 300blk for about 18¢-22¢ each. $180-$220 for a 1000 rounds.

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I like that handguard. Got a link to the product?
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I like that handguard. Got a link to the product?
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I like that handguard. Got a link to the product?


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Posted: 7/20/2013 12:36:29 PM EST
Bullet selection

.308 > .311


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300 BLK is far superior at blowing up 5.56 rifles than 7.62x39 because 300blk will chamber into and fire in a 5.56 rifle.

Other than that, 300blk does nothing better than 7.62x39.

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Why not a barrel/chamber optimized for .308 bullets loaded into 7.62x39 cases? I've been under the impression--perhaps falsely--that 7.62x39 AR barrels are precisely this.
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Why not a barrel/chamber optimized for .308 bullets loaded into 7.62x39 cases? I've been under the impression--perhaps falsely--that 7.62x39 AR barrels are precisely this.
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.308 > .311




Why not a barrel/chamber optimized for .308 bullets loaded into 7.62x39 cases? I've been under the impression--perhaps falsely--that 7.62x39 AR barrels are precisely this.


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