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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:37:46 PM
back in 2000 I bought my XM15 E2S. 14 1/2 with 2 in. permanently attached arrester.

In the last couple years I've read things here that Bushmaster quality is crappy. My rifle
has worked flawlessly all these years.

Was quality better back when I bought mine? Was I lucky to get a "good one"?
Did something happen to the company that caused its quality to drop?

Educate me.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:39:26 PM
IMO there were a lot fewer options back then. The overall quality and availability of various features for ARs has gone up a lot since then IMO. Much more bang for the buck available these days.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:39:29 PM
From what I gather they turned to shit once Cererbus Group purchased them. Same goes for Remington, Marlin and a few others. Damn shame.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:40:11 PM
My genuine (2006) Bushmaster is fantastic.

Most of the E-bitching is about the new Remington made "Bushmasters."
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:40:14 PM
I love my Bushwacker... Mine is a 16" Patrolman bought after the sunset in 2004. Probably have shot 7-8k rounds thru it with no problems whatsoever except for when I had a few reloads that were sized poorly (my fault).
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:44:11 PM
I have a 16" in 5.56 and an 18" in .450B and they're both excellent quality. No problems at all. The 5.56 is pre-Cerberus, I think, but the .450, obviously, is newer.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:45:15 PM
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:45:54 PM
Bushmaster isnt Bushmaster anymore.

Bushmaster is Remington and Windham Weaponry is Bushmaster

Hopefully I fully confused you with that nugget
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:46:46 PM
I've never had a problem with one.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:49:12 PM
1:9 twist
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:52:40 PM
Originally Posted By M82Assault:
1:9 twist


exactly what is wrong with that?
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:54:05 PM
I have had my 20" Bushy for over 2 years, no problems and I love it.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:54:34 PM
Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:
Bushmaster isnt Bushmaster anymore.

Bushmaster is Remington and Windham Weaponry is Bushmaster

Hopefully I fully confused you with that nugget


Got it..

I am with the OP.. I have 3 Bushwackers all made before the end of 2004. never had a problem. yeah the gas port wasnt staked, but I can forgive that since they havent ever become loose at all. if that is the only gripe, the haters can shovel it.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:54:45 PM
Originally Posted By bionicmonkey:
Originally Posted By M82Assault:
1:9 twist


exactly what is wrong with that?


The E-Ninja's can't accurately shoot their 77gr. bullets at dirt.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 5:58:51 PM
My first AR was one of the thoroughly despised 1st Gen Carbon AR M4orgeries. Amazingly, the flat top rail is still solidly affixed, there are no cracks in the lower and I have yet to have a FTF or FTE.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 6:02:39 PM
Originally Posted By GLOCKREAPER:
Originally Posted By bionicmonkey:
Originally Posted By M82Assault:
1:9 twist


exactly what is wrong with that?


The E-Ninja's can't accurately shoot their 77gr. bullets at dirt.


1:7 may be fantastic for 77gr OTM bullets, but for 40 gr varmint, or 55, 62 gr Milsurp 1:9 is great. Its hardly a knock worth of the pukey face..
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Posted: 6/14/2013 6:03:49 PM

IMO BMs of that vintage are highly GTG.

Don't have much experience with recently manufactured ones.

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Posted: 6/14/2013 6:04:22 PM
I have a post ban bushy 14.5" w/ mini comp y. After the sunset I got a new 16" barrel and its still going strong. No idea how many rounds have fired through it. 10--15k and it's always work perfectly. Must of that was Wolf! Even the steel cased ammo.

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Posted: 6/14/2013 6:05:45 PM
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1:9 twist


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Posted: 6/14/2013 6:07:34 PM
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I've got a circa 1998 Bushmaster that seems to work well enough. Probably only 3k rounds through it though, so it's barely even broken in.

Back when I joined ARFCOM, Bushmaster was the go-to brand for decent quality rifles.

EDIT: The gas key was staked from the factory on my rifle.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 6:09:46 PM
Mine are from 2000 and 2001. Superb quality, but lacking all the cool features I don't really need.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 6:11:15 PM
Originally Posted By Iram:
Back when I joined ARFCOM, Bushmaster was the go-to brand for decent quality rifles.


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Posted: 6/14/2013 6:12:33 PM
I have a NY Bushmaster made by Remington. Year old, just over 3100 rounds, only three failure. Two were stuck cases from Tulammo, one was a FTFeed from a Pmag, using Wolf.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 6:13:30 PM
I am not the bushmaster hater some are here

For what I have seen selling all brands for 16 years is at each price point rifles are pretty comparable
that said Bushmaster in particular really put out some shit in the run up to Y2K/California ban
at the time it made sense though especially with California cutoff get the product out before the deadline and warranty it later
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Posted: 6/14/2013 7:21:17 PM
I have a fixed handle 20" Bushy of about 01 vintage. It is very accurate for a CL barrel. Early ones are GTG.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 7:24:43 PM
Originally Posted By GLOCKREAPER:
Originally Posted By bionicmonkey:
Originally Posted By M82Assault:
1:9 twist


exactly what is wrong with that?


The E-Ninja's can't accurately shoot their 77gr. bullets at dirt.


It's not dirt, it's a berm



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Posted: 6/14/2013 7:30:45 PM
my old one is $
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Posted: 6/14/2013 7:35:21 PM
I have one from circa 2004 with the Izzy muzzle break permantly affixed and it's a good shooter. It was my first AR. After I learned more about the AR, I noticed it has a commercial stock and AR-15 BCG, NTTIAWWT.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 7:37:31 PM
My Bushmaster has been flawless. Even wolf ammo functions every time. Bought it after the awb sunset.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 7:42:34 PM
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People who've spent a lot more on other brands love to brand them a "hobby gun".

They will site weekend long courses where most of the AR's that had issues were Bushmasters.

Other than having to have the sights reindexed because they shot much too far to the left out of the box, I've never had an issue.

I have a friend with a recent Colt that has the bolt wearing on the underside badly, so no company is perfect.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 7:54:38 PM
I too joined in the "ABC" era of arfcom. My BM was made around 2000 I believe and it's been flawless

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Posted: 6/14/2013 7:58:46 PM
First its Oly, then BM, then whatever the flavor is this week. I don't listen to it, I do my own research and make my own decisions.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 9:16:02 PM
The first AR I ever bought was in 2004 14.5 and pinned comp. Here are the two problems that I have with it.

1. No M4 Feed ramps.
2. The post-ban configuration I was forced to purchased due to being behind enemy lines.

I have had one Failure to Feed issue. and it had more to do with cleanliness, not enough lube , and possibly riding the bolt closed.

Hasn't happened in a very long time. Have about 900 rounds through it.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 9:23:24 PM
I have a post ban with the mini Y comp...muzzle break.....ear drum breaker..works great..
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Posted: 6/14/2013 9:58:52 PM
I have a 1993 era Bushmaster 20 inch H-Bar, never any problems.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 10:06:09 PM
But but...."the chart" and mil-spec.
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Posted: 6/14/2013 10:50:26 PM
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Most of them work well. I had a bad era that was good. If I did have a problem I was on my own. They are there but why buy one, when I could buy a bmc (or other house brand)and have stupendous costumer support ?
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