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Posted: 5/25/2013 7:08:18 AM EDT
The main thing I need to hit are my kitchen blades....like 16 pieces ranging from a cleaver, to butcher knife, to steak knives {serrated}
As well as an old USAF blade and my work/folder blade Is a good 'ol 6" stone the way to go? Don't want to spend a lot of $$ Maybe within the $50 range and a little bit of elbow grease |
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The popular answer always seems to be the Spyderco Sharpmaker.
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I have one of these. Works great on just about anything. ETA - some of them come with a stone to hit serrations too. There are several different kits available. |
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I'm using this Gatco 5 stone sharpener with excellent results:
http://www.amazon.com/Gatco-10005-5-Stone-sharpening-system/dp/B001DB9CQS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1369495241&sr=8-2&keywords=gatco+sharpener I also use this finishing hone: http://www.amazon.com/Gatco-15010-Ultimate-Finishing-Hone/dp/B001E8EY2M/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1369495241&sr=8-4&keywords=gatco+sharpener And strop my edges to get them razor sharp. I have the Gatco diamond hone set also and it's as good as the regular stones. I use it on my D2 steel knife. http://www.amazon.com/Gatco-10006-Ultimate-diamond-sharpening/dp/B003774RF2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369495241&sr=8-1&keywords=gatco+sharpener ETA: I guarantee you can get a knife razor, hair splitting sharp with the items listed above. Others may be able to free hand an edge that sharp but with the tools above, anyone can. |
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I too would like to know more about this subject. As would i spyderco sharpmaker is a good and easy to use sharpener. i use it sometimes. for more serious work i use wicked edge go to some of the knife forums and look at demos on youtube before you buy. |
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In for the really expensive one that looks like it would work great. I was thinking yesterday that I really need one of those.
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In for the really expensive one that looks like it would work great. I was thinking yesterday that I really need one of those. That would be the edge pro apex 2. Very pricy, but easy to achieve excellent edges. -Parke1 |
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Sharpmaker is good, but not suited to big jobs, IMO. The stones have little surface area and clog up easily. I use Spyderco bench stones, supplemented by a DMT extra coarse for taking out deeper nicks and dings.
Any decent bench stone will work (except for serrations, of course.) |
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Quoted: Quoted: In for the really expensive one that looks like it would work great. I was thinking yesterday that I really need one of those. That would be the edge pro apex 2. Very pricy, but easy to achieve excellent edges. -Parke1 That's the one. It looks like this thread will make me look at that Wicked edge one too though. |
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There was a thread on the forum last year on the various sharpening systems. I've owned a Lansky and a Smith setup for years, and when used properly they are great. However, some folks just can't get the hang of using them. (i.e., my wife).
After reading many comments I purchased a WorkSharp ( the electric with the mini sanding-type belts.). This really works great for re-setting the edge on older abused blades, kitchen knives, etc. There are coarse belts for sharpening tools, axes, etc. And I have ressurrected dozens of my wife's old scissors that she had thought beyond salvaging. I still use the Lansky for my higher-end knives, I can see that excessive use of the WorkSharp will eventually remove a lot of material from the blade, but for honing kitchen knives and putting a quick hair-shaving edge on skinning knives, etc, it works great. |
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I use an edge pro for all my sharpening needs. It's significantly more expensive, but I've got more than one knife that is literally hair popping sharp.
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I suck at keeping the right angle on a stone. Hell, I can fuck up a Lansky.
What I've found that works very well for me is Work Sharp. Does a great job for me every time.
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Try a ceramic stick sharpener. Spyderco and Lansky both made a model. Check out A. G. Russel. I had a lansky but just touching up a blade was over complicated with the clamping, etc. A.G. Russel makes field size and a full size.
http://www.agrussell.com/ag-russell-ceramic-sharpener/p/CS94/ |
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I'm going to go against the usual advice here--if you just want something to do kitchen knives with, use the Vulkanus sharpener:
http://www.vulkanus-company.com/index_e.htm It's available at Amazon. Do a search, there are videos, reviews and such out there. I liked mine so much I gave the Vulkanus as Xmas presents a couple of years ago. |
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well...i just left local hardware store a ended up with a good 'ol fashion 6' stone & oil.....
will report back in a bit |
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I run a knife store and teach people how to sharpen knives, use a sharpmaker. It does a slight convex edge that makes it stronger and reduces friction making a sharper knife. The lansky workes with the pythagorean theorem so you never truly get the correct angle. Apply only the weight of the blade while sharpening and pic the correct edge to finish off with, a slicing knife is sharper with a keen or butchers edge then a highly polished edge. If anyone wants lessons on correct sharpening IM me
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Quoted: well...i just left local hardware store a ended up with a good 'ol fashion 6' stone & oil..... will report back in a bit bad choice |
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I have a very course two sided stone for the really heavy cutting. Then it goes on the sharpmaker. Works great pocket knives. I've put my kitchen steak knives through the same process. I was surprised to find how much time they needed on the course stones to re-profile before they were ready for the Sharpmaker. But the ruff stone plus the SM did the trick.
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Quoted: I'm going to go against the usual advice here--if you just want something to do kitchen knives with, use the Vulkanus sharpener: http://www.vulkanus-company.com/index_e.htm It's available at Amazon. Do a search, there are videos, reviews and such out there. I liked mine so much I gave the Vulkanus as Xmas presents a couple of years ago. Heh heh, you said anus, heh heh. |
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Quoted: I suck at keeping the right angle on a stone. Hell, I can fuck up a Lansky. What I've found that works very well for me is Work Sharp. Does a great job for me every time. I've found that including a Sharpie (bad pun) marker into the chore makes things easier to understand . Ink your edge and make a few passes on the stone and it's easy to see if you're high , low or on the money . |
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Quoted: The popular answer always seems to be the Spyderco Sharpmaker. Works great. |
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Quoted: Sharpmaker is good, but not suited to big jobs, IMO. The stones have little surface area and clog up easily. I use Spyderco bench stones, supplemented by a DMT extra coarse for taking out deeper nicks and dings. Any decent bench stone will work (except for serrations, of course.) This is also good advice. |
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Edge pro or Lansky with diamond stones.
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My grandfather tough me there's only two things you need to sharpen a knife. A whetstone and some spit. If you really want a nice edge, add in a leather strop.
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Second for Lansky system. It's fairly idiot proof because it include a jig to get the correct angle.
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It will put an edge on a blade, that's about it. |
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It will put an edge on a blade, that's about it. isn't sharp edge what we want? i haven't tried it but think this might be easy way to sharpen a knife? |
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It will put an edge on a blade, that's about it. isn't sharp edge what we want? i haven't tried it but think this might be easy way to sharpen a knife? I've used them for years for a quick touch up on a blade, and they're excellent for that. If you want to reprofile an edge, or get that hair shaving edge, go with one of the other systems mentioned. |
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I love my wicked edge. Using leather strops with diamond paste I am pretty sure you can do surgery when you are done. And you can get it done fast. I own a diamond lansky kit also. I like it and is good. You won't go wrong with a lansky. I think the Wicked Edge is a step up but it is $$$$$. You get what you pay for. Lansky is bang for buck.
Edit: There is no one stone system if you truly want to put a fine edge on your knife. You can get a two sided stone and keep your knife sharp. There is a lot more work involved and eventually reprofiling comes into. If one stone works for you I am not knocking it but a multistone kit brings a lot more to the table in sharpening. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I too would like to know more about this subject. As would i spyderco sharpmaker is a good and easy to use sharpener. i use it sometimes. for more serious work i use wicked edge go to some of the knife forums and look at demos on youtube before you buy. |
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Second for Lansky system. It's fairly idiot proof because it include a jig to get the correct angle. "Engineering Fixture". |
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Here is some good information. I suggest reading through it. I stayed with my Lansky after reading this, but I changed the way I used it.
http://forums.egullet.org/topic/26036-knife-maintenance-and-sharpening/ |
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I have an Edge Pro Apex. It's a solid machine and dummy proof, but there are some nuances to using it that come with experience. You have to practice, and it works better with better gear like aftermarket Japanese waterstones. It can be slightly frustrating with you are getting sharp, but not very sharp edges right off the bat. Having a strop makes life a lot easier as well.
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I have a Tormeck T7, about $700 with some jigs. Best sharpener ever made.
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Cinderblock and some cardboard. The burr is your friend. All the gadgets/jigs/grinders in the world won't help u get a knife sharp if you don't understand the basics of sharpening.
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I'm going to go against the usual advice here--if you just want something to do kitchen knives with, use the Vulkanus sharpener: http://www.vulkanus-company.com/index_e.htm It's available at Amazon. Do a search, there are videos, reviews and such out there. I liked mine so much I gave the Vulkanus as Xmas presents a couple of years ago. Heh heh, you said anus, heh heh. |
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I suck at keeping the right angle on a stone. Hell, I can fuck up a Lansky. What I've found that works very well for me is Work Sharp. Does a great job for me every time. I've found that including a Sharpie (bad pun) marker into the chore makes things easier to understand . Ink your edge and make a few passes on the stone and it's easy to see if you're high , low or on the money . This. |
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I have the Lansky system and various other files, rods, whetstones and diamond stones. I can do a pretty good job with the Lansky. But I get the best edge from the guy my neighbor hires once a month to sharpen all his scissors (he does custom upholstery work). $3 a blade and it's always perfect... that's hard to beat.
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I'll third the Work Sharp belt sharpener. Once I use it, I just occasionally use the spyderco triangle ceramics to bring the edge back to hair popping sharp. I got better things to do then rub a knife on a rock for hours!
The triangle spyderco is about the only thing that will kind of work on a serrated edge knife. |
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I bought this from Costco for $50 and it is wonderful! I gave up, I can't sharpen knives. I bought a machine for my kitchen knives, and it works.
My knives are always sharp, takes like 1-2 minutes to sharpen one and it's easy, requires no skill.
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