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Posted: 5/23/2013 9:55:47 AM EDT
OK GD...an employee of mine (actually an employee of a family business) was arrested Tuesday night.

Cliffs notes:

Employee had a small criminal record - nothing serious - a juvenile arrest years ago for evading police or something. Not sure of exact charges, but it was when he was a kid. Not sure how that record plays into this, but it must have.

Anyway, Tuesday night, our parking lot was SWARMED by 20 police cars, and multiple FBI cars. Full raid. Scared the hell out of everyone, and they were really forceful with this employee.

What happened was, he went to a local hardware store and purchased a pressure canner for his elderly, disabled MOTHER. Her hobby is canning.

It appears like the owner or manager of the hardware store got a bad vibe, and called police.

They also raided the poor little old disabled lady's home, scared the hell out of her, and guess what...

FOUND NOTHING. No bomb making materials. No evil doings at all.

HOLY SHIT I AM PISSED. How does the FBI and NYSP raid a business and a home based on the purchase of a pressure canner and a "bad vibe" ???

There HAS to be more to the story, but I am not finding it. I don't think the employee made any threats or demonstrated any dangerous behavior. He was a normal guy. As he was being taken out in cuffs, he begged to be able to call the manager to get someone to replace him, so the store could continue with business. A good employee for sure.

What the hell is going on in this country. And before you bash NY, this could have happened in ANY state. The FBI is out of control, as are state police.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 9:57:08 AM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
OK GD...an employee of mine (actually an employee of a family business) was arrested Tuesday night.

Cliffs notes:

Employee had a small criminal record - nothing serious - a juvenile arrest years ago for evading police or something. Not sure of exact charges, but it was when he was a kid. Not sure how that record plays into this, but it must have.

Anyway, Tuesday night, our parking lot was SWARMED by 20 police cars, and multiple FBI cars. Full raid. Scared the hell out of everyone, and they were really forceful with this employee.

What happened was, he went to a local hardware store and purchased a pressure canner for his elderly, disabled MOTHER. Her hobby is canning.

It appears like the owner or manager of the hardware store got a bad vibe, and called police.

They also raided the poor little old disabled lady's home, scared the hell out of her, and guess what...

FOUND NOTHING. No bomb making materials. No evil doings at all.

HOLY SHIT I AM PISSED. How does the FBI and NYSP raid a business and a home based on the purchase of a pressure canner???

There HAS to be more to the story, but I am not finding it. I don't think the employee made any threats or demonstrated any dangerous behavior. He was a normal guy.

What the hell is going on in this country. And before you bash NY, this could have happened in ANY state. The FBI is out of control, as are state police.


Nope, NOTHING more to the story than this. All the facts are presented here.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 9:57:12 AM EDT
[#2]
Shut up and pick up that can citizen!
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 9:57:47 AM EDT
[#3]
Welcome to 2013.  It has been a police state in this country for a while but now there are many more specific actions to note and use as evidence in saying so.  There used to be a time when people minded their own business and actually lived and enjoyed their lives...
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 9:57:52 AM EDT
[#4]
Need news article so I can post this on Facebook.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 9:58:15 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
OK GD...an employee of mine (actually an employee of a family business) was arrested Tuesday night.

Cliffs notes:

Employee had a small criminal record - nothing serious - a juvenile arrest years ago for evading police or something. Not sure of exact charges, but it was when he was a kid. Not sure how that record plays into this, but it must have.

Anyway, Tuesday night, our parking lot was SWARMED by 20 police cars, and multiple FBI cars. Full raid. Scared the hell out of everyone, and they were really forceful with this employee.

What happened was, he went to a local hardware store and purchased a pressure canner for his elderly, disabled MOTHER. Her hobby is canning.

It appears like the owner or manager of the hardware store got a bad vibe, and called police.

They also raided the poor little old disabled lady's home, scared the hell out of her, and guess what...

FOUND NOTHING. No bomb making materials. No evil doings at all.

HOLY SHIT I AM PISSED. How does the FBI and NYSP raid a business and a home based on the purchase of a pressure canner???

There HAS to be more to the story, but I am not finding it. I don't think the employee made any threats or demonstrated any dangerous behavior. He was a normal guy.

What the hell is going on in this country. And before you bash NY, this could have happened in ANY state. The FBI is out of control, as are state police.


Nope, NOTHING more to the story than this. All the facts are presented here.


I told you...there HAS to be more to the story...I just am not finding it.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 9:58:35 AM EDT
[#6]
Tell Abdulla not to shop in his burka next time.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 9:58:49 AM EDT
[#7]


Africa NY wins again
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 9:58:53 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:

Nope, NOTHING more to the story than this. All the facts are presented here.


FPNI.

I'm sure the OP will update the complete story when it comes out.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 9:59:24 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Shut up and pressure can that can citizen!


Link Posted: 5/23/2013 9:59:28 AM EDT
[#10]
Why is that shitstain hardware store owner selling pressure canners if he is so fucking afraid of them
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 9:59:28 AM EDT
[#11]
tag for more info
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 9:59:31 AM EDT
[#12]

Is he Chechen?
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:00:13 AM EDT
[#13]
That sounds like something that could be resolved with a friendly knock on the door. Unless there are other details, that is absurd.

How much time between when he bought it and when he was swarmed?
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:00:29 AM EDT
[#14]
My wife bought me a pressure cooker a few days before the Boston bombing, I haven't been raided (yet), should I lock up my dogs?
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:00:48 AM EDT
[#15]
Call the press.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:00:55 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Need news article so I can post this on Facebook.


+1

Sue the fuck out of them.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:01:55 AM EDT
[#17]
guess they just had to get it on.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:02:52 AM EDT
[#18]
did he recently purchase a bunch of fireworks in a neighboring state as well?

NYs fireworks suck
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:03:30 AM EDT
[#19]
That hardware store owner needs to post a sign:

"Warning, if you buy one of these, your house might get raided!"
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:03:50 AM EDT
[#20]
I bet he uses cash next time.


Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:04:10 AM EDT
[#21]
In....
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:04:33 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Shut up and pick up that can citizen!


Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:04:47 AM EDT
[#23]
I hope he did not get canned from work.  
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:04:57 AM EDT
[#24]
Pick up that canning equipment, citizen.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:05:05 AM EDT
[#25]
I will form my own opinion when the rest of the story comes out....
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:05:13 AM EDT
[#26]
I really don't know any more details...other than they found nothing...no wrong doing at all. All wrongful suspicion.

I will try to find out more ASAP.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:05:22 AM EDT
[#27]
Was it over 7 quarts?
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:06:07 AM EDT
[#28]
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:06:17 AM EDT
[#29]
Empire Police State.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:06:28 AM EDT
[#30]
New York.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:06:46 AM EDT
[#31]
The WOT is coming home to roost it seems, all of the BS fear monger laws we allowed to be passed to "protect" us are now being used to control us.

Who could have predicted such a thing?!
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:07:11 AM EDT
[#32]
Cash use it to purchase things.

But actually they probably have cameras and got you on camera on your car and license plate so your still screwed.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:07:18 AM EDT
[#33]
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:08:54 AM EDT
[#34]
Well, I feel safer
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:09:00 AM EDT
[#35]
You are

no longer



living as a free man.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:09:12 AM EDT
[#36]
See something, say something.

So does he look like Hank Hill?
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:09:33 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Join date
post count

freakin fivers



Haha...unfortunately this is all too real.

Again, I don't know the details...who knows this guy could have been sending death threats to Obama...but I seriously doubt it.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:09:37 AM EDT
[#38]
That is the purpose of terrorism...to scare people, now someone buying a pressure canner, will send of flags....what will the next common item be used to make a bomb?
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:10:11 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Was it over 7 quarts?




I see what you did there
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:10:22 AM EDT
[#40]
LoL law enforcement (was a law even broken?) is always behind the game.  Always reactionary.  

They'll never raid somebody's house for sporks until its too late.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:10:40 AM EDT
[#41]
Positive spin- I can only hope if they ever come for me it happens at work as well.



Perhaps this means they are learning. Why cause another Waco/Ruby Ridge when you dont have to. Even when the suspect is innocent.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:10:41 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Was it over 7 quarts?




I see what you did there


Hey we are allowed 10 round mags again...try to keep up.

But yes, we can only load 7 in.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:10:51 AM EDT
[#43]
It is for your safety and security, Citizen, please carry on.

I do wonder, though, if we are getting the entire story here.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:11:25 AM EDT
[#44]
I would love to see the warrant on that one.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:11:34 AM EDT
[#45]
IRS still at it?
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:11:54 AM EDT
[#46]
Anytime a bad person misuses (OBJECT), it will immediately follow that (OBJECT) will be banned or those purchasing (OBJECT) will be subject to suspicion.

Welcome to 2013 America.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:12:57 AM EDT
[#47]
PICK UP THAT CAN!!!
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:13:28 AM EDT
[#48]
See something, say something and all that shit....


Just like getting your door kicked in on pot raid because you bought hydroponic grow equipment for your squash and tomatoes.   get used to it.
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:13:47 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
It is for your safety and security, Citizen, please carry on.

I do wonder, though, if we are getting the entire story here.


I dunno, give people/feds/police too much credit for intelligence and they routinely disappoint.  
Link Posted: 5/23/2013 10:14:10 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
It is for your safety and security, Citizen, please carry on.

I do wonder, though, if we are getting the entire story here.


I mean it is all I know.

The FBI and 20 cop cars raided our business. Arrested an employee. Raided his home looking for pressure canner and bomb making materials. Found little old scared lady with jarred goods.

Even if there is more to the story...how can the FBI and NYSP do all this and be SO wrong???
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