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Posted: 4/30/2013 3:56:02 PM EDT

[#1]

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If they're every bit as good (or better) than the Bulgarian ones for half the price or less we'll have a winner.

New Bulgarian mags are going for $45 dollars right now.

If Magpul can sell the reinforced version for $23 I'll be happy to pay that price.

'zactly.

Hell, get it under 20 bucks and I'll have to buy another AK for all the mags I shall hoard.

Posted: 4/30/2013 3:56:06 PM EDT

[#2]

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To be released in the next 10 years.

Anyone remember the 40rnd Pmags that was announced about two years ago, in their catalogue and even listed for sale at Midway? I had twenty on preorder but of course we know that never happened.

I just wish they hadn't let shrubmaster screw up the ACR.

They didn't screw up the ACR so much as they completely screwed the pooch on the launch of the platform with the ridiculous MSRP estimate and continue to hamstring the platform with pathetic support of the platform with virtually nothing to buy in the way of accessories and upgrades like barrel sizes, caliber conversions, PRS style stocks, handguards, etc. My guess is they are playing a game of wait and seel because of Remington's continued revisions to the platform.

That, and the recall.

Soon as as I heard $2700 I wrote it off entirely, "Shrubmaster" being involved was discouraging enough.

Posted: 4/30/2013 3:57:41 PM EDT

[#3]

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No 74 mags....

Posted: 4/30/2013 3:58:37 PM EDT

[#4]

Want.

Posted: 4/30/2013 3:59:31 PM EDT

[#5]

No steel reinforced lugs = JUNK

AK mags without the metal inserts are just range toy only crap.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:02:18 PM EDT

[#6]

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No steel reinforced lugs = JUNK

AK mags without the metal inserts are just range toy only crap.

The Tapcos also don't fit in most mag pouches.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:03:52 PM EDT

[#7]

Now magpul really is tapco with better marketing.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:06:30 PM EDT

[#8]

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No steel reinforced lugs = JUNK

AK mags without the metal inserts are just range toy only crap.

My Bulgarian ones seem to have held up just fine.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:07:43 PM EDT

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Now magpul really is tapco with better marketing.

They don't make a metal reinforced AK folding stock, Tapco does.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:11:06 PM EDT

[#10]

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That, and the recall.

Soon as as I heard $2700 I wrote it off entirely, "Shrubmaster" being involved was discouraging enough.

While it is an unacceptable flaw to release a product with, even FN had the same problem with the FS2000 when it was released and had to do a recall. Also, I only paid $1685 or so IIRC for my new in the box ACR.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:12:49 PM EDT

[#11]

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BULGY WAFFLES FTW

ditto but not at $45

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:14:41 PM EDT

[#12]

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While it is an unacceptable flaw to release a product with, even FN had the same problem with the FS2000 when it was released and had to do a recall. Also, I only paid $1685 or so IIRC for my new in the box ACR.

When? I was seriously lining up to get one when they came out but there were no additional barrels or rifles selling for less than insane prices.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:15:43 PM EDT

[#13]

about time!
I only like magpul for their mags and BUIS, and I've wanted someone to come out with an affordable poly AK mag that works for a while now.

I hate steel mags, mine all look like shit. they work fine, but look like shit.
not to mention the weight! a unloaded steel AK mag feels pretty damn close to the weight of a loaded pmag

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:19:08 PM EDT

[#14]

Me likey.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:20:32 PM EDT

[#15]

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No steel reinforced lugs = JUNK

AK mags without the metal inserts are just range toy only crap.

My Bulgarian ones seem to have held up just fine.

Keep at it, try the " spetnaz" mag change or use them as primary mags in a class and see how long they last.

Hell, see what happens when you miss the front lug and get it locked by the rear lug only.
The standard combat fix for that is to kick the mag out.

Try any of this and see what happens to plastic lugs.

All plastic AK mags are fucking shit.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:21:39 PM EDT

[#16]

Literally, the ONLY good thing about the AK design is that the magazines are large, reliable, and cheap (relative, for, you know, 1947).

If you're willing to accept manufacturability as an advantage, then it has that as well. But it certainly doesn't apply to the finished rifle.

Everything else about them is crap.

So, you want to improve crap, and you're starting with the one thing that's NOT wrong with it?

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Posted: 4/30/2013 4:22:40 PM EDT

[#17]

No better mag for an AK than surplus. Wouldn't wasn't the money on them...

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:26:35 PM EDT

[#18]

I will buy a couple for giggles but I wish they would have made them from bakelite

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:27:13 PM EDT

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Late summer 2013 does nothing for me.

Gonna be dead by then?

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:28:10 PM EDT

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I will buy a couple for giggles but I wish they would have made them from bakelite

Isn't bakelite UV sensitive?

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:29:36 PM EDT

[#21]

I'll be in for a couple at least.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:32:37 PM EDT

[#22]

My SGL21 will enjoy these some day.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:35:51 PM EDT

[#23]

WANT!!!

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:39:09 PM EDT

[#24]

I has a MAK-90 and several cans of ChiCom ammo from back in the day... A small pile of E.German and Ruskie metal mags... But I lack love for the rifle.

I do need some more mags to feel good about keeping it though... I have a 30 mags per battle-capable long gun rule. If the lug holds up, I'll buy a few.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:40:58 PM EDT

[#25]

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Was it the AK platform they were talking about when they said they couldn't make a mag with acceptable durability due to how thick the walls needed to be? Or am I thinking of a different type of gun people have been begging for Magpul to make mags for? I even told somebody this very thing when they asked if Magpul would make mags for that gun but now I can't remember what gun it was.

You're thinking of the FAL, pal.

I missed the FAL mag train and I would pay top dollar for plastic FAL mags that work.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:47:43 PM EDT

[#26]

However I wouldn't mind the square bolt-hold-open follower. It would at least let you know it;s empty, even if it doesn't directly help with reloading.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:48:50 PM EDT

[#27]

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BULGY WAFFLES FTW

This^^ Have a bunch of them but I'll pick up a few Magpul anyway.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:50:55 PM EDT

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Neat. I hope '74 mags aren't far behind.

This. In 5.56 please.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:55:49 PM EDT

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I wonder why they dont have last-shot-bolt-hold-open ?

Because that feature is practically useless on an AK

How so? It's a nice reminder to change magazines even though the bolt goes forward when you release the mag. The former Yugoslavia did a simple modification with the follower, it's not black magic. I wish more countries would have followed this simple and effective design.

If Magpul ever decides to incorporate this into their design, the follower has to be pretty stout where the bolt locks into the follower.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:58:36 PM EDT

[#30]

Need to make a 5.56 version for $15 each.

Posted: 4/30/2013 4:59:29 PM EDT

[#31]

5.56 mags please

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:00:48 PM EDT

[#32]

Steel mags for AK's are fine. I will not buy these.

PMAGS for AR's arguably had some potentially good improvements like a constant curve and better follower.

Bulgarian polymer mags are already fine. They just needed to sell them for $12 instead of $28 each.

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:01:08 PM EDT

[#33]

As hit or miss as circle 10s can be this is great

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:01:40 PM EDT

[#34]

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Literally, the ONLY good thing about the AK design is that the magazines are large, reliable, and cheap (relative, for, you know, 1947).

If you're willing to accept manufacturability as an advantage, then it has that as well. But it certainly doesn't apply to the finished rifle.

Everything else about them is crap.

So, you want to improve crap, and you're starting with the one thing that's NOT wrong with it?

myheadisfulloffuck.jpg

Haha, the AK isn't the most modular or ergonomic rifle but it excels at what it's designed to do. I actually prefer a rifle built like a machine gun with large parts and simplicity of design.

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:01:40 PM EDT

[#35]

These can be useful if import/export bans come into play for mags.

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:04:00 PM EDT

[#36]

Hope they turn out well but betting they dont hold up like steel mags. When you see some things like the russians doing pushups on their mags I question plastic for AK.

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:05:53 PM EDT

[#37]

I love magpul stuff, but honestly, looks like my tapco mags i got for 8ea pre scare

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:07:52 PM EDT

[#38]

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Hope they turn out well but betting they dont hold up like steel mags. When you see some things like the russians doing pushups on their mags I question plastic for AK.

Dents in steel can be repaired, plastics do provide flexibility. I have polymer AK74 mags from the 80's with graffiti from conscript service that still perform like new.

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:10:22 PM EDT

[#39]

Want several.

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:10:38 PM EDT

[#40]

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No steel reinforced lugs = JUNK

AK mags without the metal inserts are just range toy only crap.

My Bulgarian ones seem to have held up just fine.

Keep at it, try the " spetnaz" mag change or use them as primary mags in a class and see how long they last.

Hell, see what happens when you miss the front lug and get it locked by the rear lug only.
The standard combat fix for that is to kick the mag out.

Try any of this and see what happens to plastic lugs.

All plastic AK mags are fucking shit.

This is why we are building a version with the steel re-enforcements similar to the Bulgarian version which we like.

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:15:42 PM EDT

[#41]

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Late summer 2013 does nothing for me.

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:17:44 PM EDT

[#42]

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BULGY WAFFLES FTW

This. My Circle 10's function flawless. Same as my USGI mags with Magpul followers for my AR's. No need for the Pmags for me.

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:20:52 PM EDT

[#43]

Awesome, hopefully some 74 mags are in the works too.

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:20:59 PM EDT

[#44]

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Late summer 2013 does nothing for me.

Gonna be dead by then?

Did you notice where he lives?

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:21:21 PM EDT

[#45]

Just checked unless it is under $10 each for a 47 or a 74 mag no reason to buy.

<<<<< bought cheap ,and well .........:.........you know the rest.

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Posted: 4/30/2013 5:22:11 PM EDT

[#46]

Nice

Curious what the msrp will be?

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:23:10 PM EDT

[#47]

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Now magpul really is tapco with better marketing.

Please refer to our foundations regarding marketing...

Magpul Foundations

As part of the whole "marketing through education" part...

We just finished 3 year of magazine development in the M3 program which included development of polymer compounds for this specific application.

The advances can be seen in these test videos...

PMag M3 test videos

Part of this program is to expand the technology and materials into other magazines such as the AK platform. We believe the new material strength will translate into an improved all polymer AK magazine (for OEM manufactures needing US parts count) and act as a basis for a steel re-enforced version similar to the Bulgarians for real world use.

Posted: 4/30/2013 5:24:59 PM EDT

[#48]

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Literally, the ONLY good thing about the AK design is that the magazines are large, reliable, and cheap (relative, for, you know, 1947).

If you're willing to accept manufacturability as an advantage, then it has that as well. But it certainly doesn't apply to the finished rifle.

Everything else about them is crap.

So, you want to improve crap, and you're starting with the one thing that's NOT wrong with it?

myheadisfulloffuck.jpg

You really know absolutely NOTHING about the AK design, do you?