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Posted: 4/22/2013 9:42:36 AM EST
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Please post pictures of your 80%s so Someone can submit you as a terrierist.

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It wouldn't really be off the books if you know about it, now would it?

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Link Posted: 4/22/2013 9:45:23 AM EST
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Please post pictures of your 80%s so Someone can submit you as a terrierist.



Sorry, I don't have any 80%ers.... or any weapons of any kind, as they were all sadly lost in a freak kayaking accident. <kicks ground>

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Prosecutor Kristyna S. Mills said her office prosecutes these types of cases “all the time”speaking of the prosecution of Sgt. Nathan Haddad, a decorated combat veteran, for possessing AR15 magazines
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Link Posted: 4/22/2013 9:47:38 AM EST
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if you EVER filed out a 4473 for anything at sometime in the past.... your already on the list.


Agreed. But assuming I had a lower that a 4473 was filled out for, and then sold the lower to someone else using a 4473 also, there would be proof that I don't have it anymore.


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Link Posted: 4/22/2013 9:49:23 AM EST
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Link Posted: 4/22/2013 9:49:52 AM EST
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
if you EVER filed out a 4473 for anything at sometime in the past.... your already on the list.


But will I still get the $500 for making the anonymous call?
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Link Posted: 4/22/2013 9:51:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By ericnhitterdal:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
if you EVER filed out a 4473 for anything at sometime in the past.... your already on the list.


Agreed. But assuming I had a lower that a 4473 was filled out for, and then sold the lower to someone else using a 4473 also, there would be proof that I don't have it anymore.



if confiscation time comes you think they won't be issuing a warrant for a complete search....lol


I doubt they'll even bother with the warrant. If the 2nd Amendment is cancelled, why worry about the others?

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Link Posted: 4/22/2013 9:52:05 AM EST
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
if you EVER filed out a 4473 for anything at sometime in the past.... your already on the list.


My thoughts precisely
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Prosecutor Kristyna S. Mills said her office prosecutes these types of cases “all the time”speaking of the prosecution of Sgt. Nathan Haddad, a decorated combat veteran, for possessing AR15 magazines
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Link Posted: 4/22/2013 9:53:07 AM EST
an 80% is on my list of "to do's" but if you want to unload some lowers cheap so you can be "off the books" i'd be happy offer you very little for them.

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Link Posted: 4/22/2013 9:53:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By ericnhitterdal:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
if you EVER filed out a 4473 for anything at sometime in the past.... your already on the list.


Agreed. But assuming I had a lower that a 4473 was filled out for, and then sold the lower to someone else using a 4473 also, there would be proof that I don't have it anymore.



if confiscation time comes you think they won't be issuing a warrant for a complete search....lol


thats what secret compartments etc are for.


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Link Posted: 4/22/2013 9:53:15 AM EST
You mean those really cool paperweights?

Other than that, I don't know what you are talking about
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Link Posted: 4/22/2013 9:56:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By Colonel_Angus:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
if you EVER filed out a 4473 for anything at sometime in the past.... your already on the list.


My thoughts precisely


If you've ever gone to a public range you may also make the list..
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Link Posted: 4/22/2013 9:59:37 AM EST
all good info guys, sounds like I may still get an 80% but will just keep the guns I have that are laying at the bottom of a lake in MN... I don't remember which one.


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I'm surprised there hasn't been any "Nice Dag" comments...

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I'm surprised there hasn't been any "Nice Dag" comments...


He looks embarrassed.

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Why not just buy a regular lower F2F from someone who doesn't care to keep a bill of sale. I don't see how that would be any different.

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Link Posted: 4/22/2013 10:36:12 AM EST
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
if you EVER filed out a 4473 for anything at sometime in the past.... your already on the list.


Come on people. Those records are purged in 48 hours. They don't even know what your are buying
at the time of purchase. All records live with the FFL.


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I'm surprised there hasn't been any "Nice Dag" comments...


He looks embarrassed.



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Link Posted: 4/22/2013 10:42:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
if you EVER filed out a 4473 for anything at sometime in the past.... your already on the list.


Come on people. Those records are purged in 48 hours. They don't even know what your are buying
at the time of purchase. All records live with the FFL.




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Nice dag and I'm not sure I see the point unless the buyer has a milling machine and knows how to use it. Would have to make/buy Jigs to hold the work as well. Unless you know your way around machining equipment or know somebody that does what good is an 80% lower?

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Link Posted: 4/22/2013 10:48:15 AM EST
Originally Posted By lockinload:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
if you EVER filed out a 4473 for anything at sometime in the past.... your already on the list.


Come on people. Those records are purged in 48 hours. They don't even know what your are buying
at the time of purchase. All records live with the FFL.



You're thinking of the NICS check. The 4473s are kept, if I remember correctly, for 10 years at the dealer's location. Not sure what the actual time limit is, but it's 7 or 10 years or something like that. Most dealers keep them indefinitely b/c the ATF can decide to be dicks, even if the legal time has passed. So yeah, good luck with the 48 hours thing on the 4473s.

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Link Posted: 4/22/2013 10:48:33 AM EST
Originally Posted By lockinload:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
if you EVER filed out a 4473 for anything at sometime in the past.... your already on the list.


Come on people. Those records are purged in 48 hours. They don't even know what your are buying
at the time of purchase. All records live with the FFL.



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Link Posted: 4/23/2013 5:03:20 AM EST
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Nice dag and I'm not sure I see the point unless the buyer has a milling machine and knows how to use it. Would have to make/buy Jigs to hold the work as well. Unless you know your way around machining equipment or know somebody that does what good is an 80% lower?


There are tons of videos on youtube on how to do it, and also some tutorials here i believe. There are jigs out there for this such as ares armor and cncguns and i'm sure others, but its tough to find them right now with the popularity of the 80% lower.

If I were to buy an 80% lower, i'd obviously do the machining. Many people have had success even doing the machining with drill presses.


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Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
if you EVER filed out a 4473 for anything at sometime in the past.... your already on the list.

Thank God I use YOUR name for all that crap. Usually with Allah Ackbar written at the bottom and


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Link Posted: 4/23/2013 5:12:05 AM EST
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I'm surprised there hasn't been any "Nice Dag" comments...


He looks embarrassed.



No, he's worried his ass is getting blasted during confiscation time because OP has filled out a 4473 at some point during his life.

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Link Posted: 4/23/2013 5:16:02 AM EST
I've been waiting for my 80% lower to ship from Ares Armour since November.

I paid up front too.

Ares came right out and said that every item they stocked was sold out with an indefinite restock time. But only about a month after I placed my order.

I didn't buy mine to have some super secret squirrel lower, I just thought it would be a fun project.

Maybe someday I'll find out.

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Link Posted: 4/23/2013 5:20:40 AM EST
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I'm surprised there hasn't been any "Nice Dag" comments...


He looks embarrassed.



By the question.


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