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Posted: 3/20/2013 5:39:04 PM
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Where did the term "assault rifle" come from? We keep hearing it again and again by the Media.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 3:55:49 PM
Wasn't it the Nazis with the Sturmgewehr (Storm Rifle)?
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Posted: 3/20/2013 3:56:09 PM
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Military terminology. Anti-gunners decifer it as "assault rifle" because it sounds deadly and it works well to support their agenda. AR actually stands for Armalite Rifle.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 4:10:08 PM
someone taking a rifle and assaulting something with it.


Honestly I'm sure it was thought up because these are not a battle rifle, but larger than a sub-machine-gun, being lighter and faster firing would allow soldiers to better assault (run) something.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 4:20:58 PM
sturmgewehr - it's German

"storm rifle" or translated "assault rifle"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_rifle
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Posted: 3/20/2013 4:23:48 PM
Josh Sugarmann coined "Assault Weapon" to divide and conquer among the gun crowd in 1989 or so. Most people don't know the difference anyway, nor do they care.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 4:28:51 PM
This may be of some assistance...

The Truth About Assault Weapons
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Posted: 3/20/2013 4:35:52 PM
Originally Posted By sc_roaddawg:
sturmgewehr - it's German

"storm rifle" or translated "assault rifle"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_rifle


This ^^^^^^ However, since no manufacturers (that I am aware of) actually produce a product called an 'Assault Rifle', I have to believe that the media, or some other anti-gun butt-lickers use the term to brainwash the general population flock of sheep into believing that 'military style' semi-auto firearms are nothing but evil.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 4:37:57 PM
Originally Posted By sc_roaddawg:
Where did the term "assault rifle" come from? We keep hearing it again and again by the Media.


Assault rifle = propaganda term coined by Adolf Hitler.
Assault weapon = propaganda term coined by hoplophobic socialists who think they know what's best for the populace.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 4:38:55 PM

Originally Posted By rtech:
Josh Sugarmann coined "Assault Weapon" to divide and conquer among the gun crowd in 1989 or so. Most people don't know the difference anyway, nor do they care.

Gun sellers were using that term in early 80s in Shotgun News. Also the Gun Digest of Assault Weapons also used it prior to him.

Interesting article - http://reason.com/blog/2013/01/17/the-new-york-times-which-uncritically-re
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Posted: 3/20/2013 4:51:29 PM
Originally Posted By sc_roaddawg:
sturmgewehr - it's German

"storm rifle" or translated "assault rifle"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_rifle



This is correct, any other answers aside from this are secondary and after the fact. This is where the term came from... Nazi propaganda. How is the term used today? Socialist propaganda. In between it has been used as a sales label and a bunch of other ways.

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Posted: 3/20/2013 5:41:58 PM
Originally Posted By rtech:
Josh Sugarmann coined "Assault Weapon" to divide and conquer among the gun crowd in 1989 or so. Most people don't know the difference anyway, nor do they care.


No there are soldier of fortune mags from long before that using the term.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 5:43:30 PM
OK The term "Assault Rifle" or Sturmgewher is appropriate for a selective fire rifle with a large magazine capacity firing an intermediate rifle cartridge.

Use of the term "Assault Rifle" to refer to semi auto AR's stems from Josh Sugarmans INTENTIONAL coining of the usage to confuse non gun people of the dangers of semi-auto firearms. It is a media term, intended to convince people that semi auto rifles are machine-guns ergo banned.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 5:48:53 PM
IIRC (it has been years and years since I read it - Ballantines "Infantry Weapons"), Hitler had no idea the STG-44 even existed until he was begged for more of them by field commanders on the eastern front. They had until then been designated MP-44, as a way of circumventing his earlier disapproval of the assault rifle concept.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 5:50:00 PM

Originally Posted By rtech:
Josh Sugarmann coined "Assault Weapon" to divide and conquer among the gun crowd in 1989 or so. Most people don't know the difference anyway, nor do they care.

And he proudly bragged how he was misleading folks.

The fact that many of the gun mags also started using the term doesn't help.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 5:50:50 PM
Storm a castle = assaulting a castle.

To storm = to assault.

Gewehr = rifle or infantry weapon.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 5:53:28 PM
Supposedly Hitler coined the term, at least thats what I have read.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 5:55:40 PM

Originally Posted By scottedward58:
Originally Posted By rtech:
Josh Sugarmann coined "Assault Weapon" to divide and conquer among the gun crowd in 1989 or so. Most people don't know the difference anyway, nor do they care.


No there are soldier of fortune mags from long before that using the term.

Yep. "We" (meaning gun owners/makers/sellers) coined that phrase:

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Posted: 3/20/2013 5:58:15 PM
Originally Posted By JsARCLIGHT:
Wasn't it the Nazis with the Sturmgewehr (Storm Rifle)?


I'm pretty sure your right.... in more recent years the lib-tards have used it and other made up terms to scare the firearm ignorant...

Other stupid made up feinstein terms:
bullet button
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Posted: 3/20/2013 6:00:22 PM
Originally Posted By GI-45:

Originally Posted By scottedward58:
Originally Posted By rtech:
Josh Sugarmann coined "Assault Weapon" to divide and conquer among the gun crowd in 1989 or so. Most people don't know the difference anyway, nor do they care.


No there are soldier of fortune mags from long before that using the term.

Yep. "We" (meaning gun owners/makers/sellers) coined that phrase:



Yeah - let's be HONEST here.

"We" (gun owners/industry) invented the term, and then "they" (gun banners and liberal scaremongers) used the term very effectively.

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Posted: 3/20/2013 6:00:30 PM
Thread needs to differentiate between assault rifle and assault weapon. I believe the rifle was in regards to storm rifle that may have been translated to assault rifle. Assault weapon is media made up, pretty much every gun in the world is referred to as an assault weapon.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 6:03:06 PM
Its the rifle of the Stormtroopers.

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Posted: 3/20/2013 6:03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By GI-45:

Originally Posted By scottedward58:
Originally Posted By rtech:
Josh Sugarmann coined "Assault Weapon" to divide and conquer among the gun crowd in 1989 or so. Most people don't know the difference anyway, nor do they care.


No there are soldier of fortune mags from long before that using the term.

Yep. "We" (meaning gun owners/makers/sellers) coined that phrase:



Yeah - let's be HONEST here.

"We" (gun owners/industry) invented the term, and then "they" (gun banners and liberal scaremongers) used the term very effectively.


Yup, most of the buyers of select fire rifles don't even use the term.

Antis use it to scare up people, and arfcommers use it in bogus term wars: "Battle rifle vs Assault rifle"
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Posted: 3/20/2013 6:10:21 PM
The term has been in common marketing use since the early 1980s at least

The newer one is "tactical", notice how the news is reporting that fuckhead potential shooter in Florida as having a "tactical" .22. This will continue for years.

You young guys will get to explain that "tactical" was OUR term to noobs over and over and over again in 2050

The next one? EBR, MSR, fuzzy bunny kisses... doesn't matter what term you use, it will be used against you
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Posted: 3/20/2013 6:12:03 PM

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By GI-45:

Originally Posted By scottedward58:
Originally Posted By rtech:
Josh Sugarmann coined "Assault Weapon" to divide and conquer among the gun crowd in 1989 or so. Most people don't know the difference anyway, nor do they care.


No there are soldier of fortune mags from long before that using the term.

Yep. "We" (meaning gun owners/makers/sellers) coined that phrase:



Yeah - let's be HONEST here.

"We" (gun owners/industry) invented the term, and then "they" (gun banners and liberal scaremongers) used the term very effectively.


Yup, most of the buyers of select fire rifles don't even use the term.

Antis use it to scare up people, and arfcommers use it in bogus term wars: "Battle rifle vs Assault rifle"

Well, I think that the term "assault rifle" does have a legitimate use, when used in the proper context. But "assault weapon" is a bogus term. It just means whatever the person wants it to mean.

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From a US Army Intelligence document, dated November 1970:

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Posted: 3/20/2013 6:17:10 PM
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By GI-45:

Originally Posted By scottedward58:
Originally Posted By rtech:
Josh Sugarmann coined "Assault Weapon" to divide and conquer among the gun crowd in 1989 or so. Most people don't know the difference anyway, nor do they care.


No there are soldier of fortune mags from long before that using the term.

Yep. "We" (meaning gun owners/makers/sellers) coined that phrase:



Yeah - let's be HONEST here.

"We" (gun owners/industry) invented the term, and then "they" (gun banners and liberal scaremongers) used the term very effectively.



Yeah and since I grew up seeing and using that term, it doesn't carry the negative connotation with me that it does with the younger generation. I don't cringe at all when I hear it.

It was on the cover of every gun rag that existed and I read just about all of them back then.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 6:19:41 PM
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The next one? EBR, MSR, fuzzy bunny kisses... doesn't matter what term you use, it will be used against you


Modern sporting rifle is nothing but PC and is being used because it will be virtually impossible to use that against us until sporting becomes "evil".



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Assault weapons are made for killing lots of people really fast.
That's why only gov't people should have them.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 6:21:48 PM
Other stupid made up feinstein terms:
bullet button

No doubt she made it up...So if it's not a bullet button, what is it? Because I'm looking at one right now. I tried calling it a "By the time I reload, I'm Dead Button" but it's not as catchy.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 6:24:19 PM
Color me naive, but isn't there an army person who is part of a squad who is an "assaulter?" I thought I remember watching Lary Vickers on one of his TV shows saying something along the lines that he was a Delta Assaulter...if so, wouldn't the rifle an assaulter uses be known as an assault rifle? Quick Google search and I found that there is an Army Special Forces Assaulter School.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 6:27:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Builder1:
AR actually stands for Armalite Rifle.


No. AR stands for ARmalite
The AR-17 is a shotgun. The AR-24 is a handgun. The AR-7 is a .22.
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Posted: 3/20/2013 7:02:38 PM
Knives, billy clubs, brass knuckles, baseball bats, and anything else you put in your hands to attack someone could be classified as an assault weapon. Martial arts experts can even have their bare hands be registered as deadly weapons. Just thought I would throw a few twigs on the fire.