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4/25/2017 7:42:44 PM
Posted: 2/22/2013 8:42:21 AM EDT
Having a debate in history class and my teacher doesn't believe me.
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 8:44:20 AM EDT
Puckle Gun?
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 8:44:51 AM EDT
Dillon minigun, I believe.
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 8:44:52 AM EDT
Gatling Gun
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 8:45:40 AM EDT
Girandoni air rifle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqFyKh-rUI
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 8:45:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/22/2013 8:46:04 AM EDT by Spade]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_Air_Rifle

More of an almost semi-automatic rifle with a 22 round magazine.

efb
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 8:45:48 AM EDT
Gatling? It's not "full auto" though.
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 8:47:10 AM EDT
This is just past, but it was used in Europe and was carried by Lewis and Clark. Far superior to any flintlock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_Air_Rifle
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 8:47:45 AM EDT
uh . . . . wife ?

Link Posted: 2/22/2013 8:48:35 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 8:48:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By OpusXKC:
Girandoni air rifle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqFyKh-rUI


That's it. Thanks.

So I was wrong kinda. I thought it was full auto.
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 8:49:14 AM EDT
Well, there's the Girandoni air rifle, that was a repeater. It's most known in the US as being the Lewis and Clark wonder rifle, but was designed earlier. I don't believe any were used in the Revolution though.

There's also the Nock Gun, a type of multibarrel muzzleloader known as a volley gun.

And there's the Puckle Gun from years before the revolution. Essentially a revolving artillery piece. Not real popular other than as a historical oddity from what I can find though.

I don't believe any of these saw much if any service in the Revolution, but I'm no authority on the subject.
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 8:57:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Avandir:
Originally Posted By OpusXKC:
Girandoni air rifle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqFyKh-rUI


That's it. Thanks.

So I was wrong kinda. I thought it was full auto.

semi. but along with the puckle gun, this is a flat refutation of the "musket myth" that is such a common liberal meme in the discussion. liberals will counter with the argument that it is an 'air gun', but that's irrelevant--any gun operates on expanding gasses. the girandoni was a semi-automatic anti-personnel rifle that could kill a man out to ~150 yards. so the idea that "the founders never dreamed of assault weapons" is utterly and completely false.
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 9:00:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sirensong:

Originally Posted By Avandir:
Originally Posted By OpusXKC:
Girandoni air rifle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqFyKh-rUI


That's it. Thanks.

So I was wrong kinda. I thought it was full auto.

semi. but along with the puckle gun, this is a flat refutation of the "musket myth" that is such a common liberal meme in the discussion. liberals will counter with the argument that it is an 'air gun', but that's irrelevant--any gun operates on expanding gasses. the girandoni was a semi-automatic anti-personnel rifle that could kill a man out to ~150 yards. so the idea that "the founders never dreamed of assault weapons" is utterly and completely false.


It was also issued by the Austrian Army, so it isn't like the Girandoni was a little known curiosity.
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 9:08:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Spade:
Originally Posted By sirensong:

Originally Posted By Avandir:
Originally Posted By OpusXKC:
Girandoni air rifle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqFyKh-rUI


That's it. Thanks.

So I was wrong kinda. I thought it was full auto.

semi. but along with the puckle gun, this is a flat refutation of the "musket myth" that is such a common liberal meme in the discussion. liberals will counter with the argument that it is an 'air gun', but that's irrelevant--any gun operates on expanding gasses. the girandoni was a semi-automatic anti-personnel rifle that could kill a man out to ~150 yards. so the idea that "the founders never dreamed of assault weapons" is utterly and completely false.


It was also issued by the Austrian Army, so it isn't like the Girandoni was a little known curiosity.

yep. a cutting-edge, semiautomatic, military rifle that the founders knew about, but didn't exclude from 2nd amendment protection.

flat refutation of the musket myth.
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 9:12:17 AM EDT
There were repeating flintlock rifles and pistols that held plenty of rounds in a magazine that were no slower than a lever action. There were revolving flintlocks. There were multibarreled "death organs" that were fired by a string of powder across the barrels. There were also volley guns that fired all the barrels at once.
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 9:22:34 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 9:23:17 AM EDT


There were also volley guns that fired all the barrels at once.


Multiple projectiles fired with only one pull of the trigger that isn't a shotgun????? I want to see your tax stamp for that!

Kinda make me wish someone that has one of those would drop it on the table in front of the gun grabbers as exhibit "A".
Link Posted: 2/22/2013 9:27:01 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Hawcer:


There were also volley guns that fired all the barrels at once.


Multiple projectiles fired with only one pull of the trigger that isn't a shotgun????? I want to see your tax stamp for that!

Kinda make me wish someone that has one of those would drop it on the table in front of the gun grabbers as exhibit "A".


The primary stumbling block in the wider employment of volley guns was the difficulty in finding a sufficient supply of men that had not fired one previously, nor seen it done.

This could be overcome by sufficient supply of distilled spirits, but accuracy naturally suffered.
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