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You're either with us or against us.

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Good on you OP for speaking up

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To those members of the forum who've questioned the authenticity of the original email I posted, it is 100% legitimate.

It's pretty hilarious that so many doubters base their skepticism SOLELY on my post count.

I'm simply a NYer who's had enough of this bullshit and thought other gun owners would find ArmaLite's position on 2nd Amendment protections less than inspiring.

No axe to grind, I'm not a competitor, former employee or have a DAMN thing to do with the firearms industry.

I like to do business with companies that respect my rights, and wanted others to know what ArmaLite has said in response to helping NYers.



Here's a reply from ArmaLite's Top Dog Mark Westrom, and far from a strong showing of support like LaRue and other makers with courage have demonstrated.



http://www.facebook.com/pages/Armalite/64911537585


Thanks for posting this email. I just received a concerned telephone call about it, an email from the staffer who stimulated the mail.



I think a bit of clarification is in order.



The root of the matter is a HUGE series of inquiries by both email and telephone asking ArmaLite to cut off sales to New York and other states which deny its citizens the right to own our rifles, as several other firms have done. Some of the contacts have been duplicates of others and some were so redundant that they appeared to be spam. Many of them have been rude and I'm afraid one of my staffers thought that he was responding to a spammer and was more terse than he should have been. Once he realized what happened he came to me and apologized.



My purpose here is to pass on his apology from the corporate level and to answer the initial question: What is ArmaLite going to do?



ArmaLite is continuing a policy put into place when California first banned our rifles. That policy remains:



1. We will not sell to those states which deny it's honorable citizens the right to own ArmaLite's.



2. We do not halt sales to individual officers even in problematic states. I am a former Police Officer myself, and the staffer who stimulated the recent anger is a currently serving one. We are well familiar with the fact that most rifles serving Police Officers are purchased by the officers themselves, and that they shouldn't be punished for the actions of their political elite.



We consider sales to those sate subdivisions which are not engaged or potentially engaged with disarming its citizens. DNR and Forestry Departments, for instance, sometimes serve in remote areas that conceal drug farms and their officers deserve good hardware.



3. We will not sell to those lower political subdivisions that deny their honorable citizens the right to own ArmaLite's. Chicago, for instance, prohibits its citizens from owning ArmaLite's within the city limits so we make no effort to sell into that city. We have many friends on the Chicago Police Department and have continued to sell to them individually.



Our observation is that most County Sheriffs disagree with banning sales of our rifles and many publicly refuse to enforce such laws. We sell to those departments and to their Deputies, but will not sell to those County departments headed by Sheriffs who would deny their citizens the same rights.



In short, Americans need not worry that ArmaLite is selling to those who betray them.



As you can see by reading posts on the topic, some readers have been harsh with their criticism of ArmaLite. It was in response to this atmosphere that my staffer reacted harshly. He's come to me and apologized and I personally am passing my own apology along with his.



But don't be mistaken, ArmaLite is strongly involved with both personal, corporate, and political efforts at the State, National, and International level to protect our civil rights. And we'll continue to support your shooting needs as the situation moves forward.



Respectfully,



Mark Westrom

President,

ArmaLite Inc.

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Apparently, 2 or 3 of site staff don't want to see Armless get their feelings hurt,  ie;  site sponsor.

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They just took their facebook response page down.  They were getting hammered bad!

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I think that honor belongs to Colt, but Armalite has just clearly made it's intentions known that they're gunning for the title. A few site staff are all on board with it, too. That is even more disappointing.    

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Damn they sure did, that's the last thing they want to do. People get a lot nastier when they feel like their opinions are being deleted.
 

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Industry Partner.

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Their batting average is not very good today.  

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To those members of the forum who've questioned the authenticity of the original email I posted, it is 100% legitimate.

It's pretty hilarious that so many doubters base their skepticism SOLELY on my post count.

I'm simply a NYer who's had enough of this bullshit and thought other gun owners would find ArmaLite's position on 2nd Amendment protections less than inspiring.

No axe to grind, I'm not a competitor, former employee or have a DAMN thing to do with the firearms industry.

I like to do business with companies that respect my rights, and wanted others to know what ArmaLite has said in response to helping NYers.



Here's a reply from ArmaLite's Top Dog Mark Westrom, and far from a strong showing of support like LaRue and other makers with courage have demonstrated.



http://www.facebook.com/pages/Armalite/64911537585


Thanks for posting this email. I just received a concerned telephone call about it, an email from the staffer who stimulated the mail.



I think a bit of clarification is in order.



The root of the matter is a HUGE series of inquiries by both email and telephone asking ArmaLite to cut off sales to New York and other states which deny its citizens the right to own our rifles, as several other firms have done. Some of the contacts have been duplicates of others and some were so redundant that they appeared to be spam. Many of them have been rude and I'm afraid one of my staffers thought that he was responding to a spammer and was more terse than he should have been. Once he realized what happened he came to me and apologized.



My purpose here is to pass on his apology from the corporate level and to answer the initial question: What is ArmaLite going to do?



ArmaLite is continuing a policy put into place when California first banned our rifles. That policy remains:



1. We will not sell to those states which deny it's honorable citizens the right to own ArmaLite's.



2. We do not halt sales to individual officers even in problematic states. I am a former Police Officer myself, and the staffer who stimulated the recent anger is a currently serving one. We are well familiar with the fact that most rifles serving Police Officers are purchased by the officers themselves, and that they shouldn't be punished for the actions of their political elite.



We consider sales to those sate subdivisions which are not engaged or potentially engaged with disarming its citizens. DNR and Forestry Departments, for instance, sometimes serve in remote areas that conceal drug farms and their officers deserve good hardware.



3. We will not sell to those lower political subdivisions that deny their honorable citizens the right to own ArmaLite's. Chicago, for instance, prohibits its citizens from owning ArmaLite's within the city limits so we make no effort to sell into that city. We have many friends on the Chicago Police Department and have continued to sell to them individually.



Our observation is that most County Sheriffs disagree with banning sales of our rifles and many publicly refuse to enforce such laws. We sell to those departments and to their Deputies, but will not sell to those County departments headed by Sheriffs who would deny their citizens the same rights.



In short, Americans need not worry that ArmaLite is selling to those who betray them.



As you can see by reading posts on the topic, some readers have been harsh with their criticism of ArmaLite. It was in response to this atmosphere that my staffer reacted harshly. He's come to me and apologized and I personally am passing my own apology along with his.



But don't be mistaken, ArmaLite is strongly involved with both personal, corporate, and political efforts at the State, National, and International level to protect our civil rights. And we'll continue to support your shooting needs as the situation moves forward.



Respectfully,



Mark Westrom

President,

ArmaLite Inc.

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Which thread are we allowed to post in without it getting locked

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If everyone on staff was in a burning building we would burn to death arguing what to do before we would ever all agree to simply leave.

 

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If everyone on staff was in a burning building we would burn to death arguing what to do before we would ever all agree to simply leave.

 

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They took their response down from their facebook page and I'm sure it will disappear from here too. They were getting hammered on FB.

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why was it locked?

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If you dont think that 87 people havent screenshotted every reply and facebook post by them on the issue youre sorley mistaken.

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The elephant in the room many here aren't bright enough to see is the fact this little boycott will have absolutely ZERO effect unless EVERY SINGLE mfr. joins in.  They won't.  They can't.  I have no idea why Armalite has been singled out.  Of course, many will jump around and throw feces like monkeys while ignoring the fact Colt, FN, Glock, etc. etc. will still be selling to ban states.  

Armalite has supported this site and its members in a HUGE way--Olympic Arms has never done ANYTHING for anyone but themselves, but some are expressing love for them.  Idiotic, IMO.  

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low post count by OP...

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The elephant in the room many here aren't bright enough to see is the fact this little boycott will have absolutely ZERO effect unless EVERY SINGLE mfr. joins in.  They won't.  They can't.  I have no idea why Armalite has been singled out.  Of course, many will jump around and throw feces like monkeys while ignoring the fact Colt, FN, Glock, etc. etc. will still be selling to ban states.  

Armalite has supported this site and its members in a HUGE way--Olympic Arms has never done ANYTHING for anyone but themselves, but some are expressing love for them.  Idiotic, IMO.  

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The elephant in the room many here aren't bright enough to see is the fact this little boycott will have absolutely ZERO effect unless EVERY SINGLE mfr. joins in.  They won't.  They can't.  I have no idea why Armalite has been singled out.  Of course, many will jump around and throw feces like monkeys while ignoring the fact Colt, FN, Glock, etc. etc. will still be selling to ban states.  

Armalite has supported this site and its members in a HUGE way--Olympic Arms has never done ANYTHING for anyone but themselves, but some are expressing love for them.  Idiotic, IMO.  

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When LEOs in ban states come for your black rifles, they can always rely on Armalite rifles to get the job done.

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Someday I hope to have 76,000+ posts..................................but then I wouldn't have any time to shoot.

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The elephant in the room many here aren't bright enough to see is the fact this little boycott will have absolutely ZERO effect unless EVERY SINGLE mfr. joins in.  They won't.  They can't.  I have no idea why Armalite has been singled out.  Of course, many will jump around and throw feces like monkeys while ignoring the fact Colt, FN, Glock, etc. etc. will still be selling to ban states.  

Armalite has supported this site and its members in a HUGE way--Olympic Arms has never done ANYTHING for anyone but themselves, but some are expressing love for them.  Idiotic, IMO.  

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There'd also have to be time for some gay jokes.  When one of us actually catches fire, there will be multiple "flaming" jokes.  

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The elephant in the room many here aren't bright enough to see is the fact this little boycott will have absolutely ZERO effect unless EVERY SINGLE mfr. joins in.  They won't.  They can't.  I have no idea why Armalite has been singled out.  Of course, many will jump around and throw feces like monkeys while ignoring the fact Colt, FN, Glock, etc. etc. will still be selling to ban states.  

Armalite has supported this site and its members in a HUGE way--Olympic Arms has never done ANYTHING for anyone but themselves, but some are expressing love for them.  Idiotic, IMO.  

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Ok Listen up if Armalite is publicly traded company like Smith and Ruger they have to conduct business in the best interest of their shareholders
they have to get permission of the shareholders on company policy
If they are a private company they can do the right thing with out worrying about violating any anti trust laws
Looks like their screwing the pooch on this one