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Posted: 2/10/2013 12:10:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/10/2013 12:10:23 PM EST by Aiden]
I've always used blue Loctite on scope rings, but some friends tell me you should never put Loctite on them. I always Loctite every screw on a firearm, am I wrong?
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:11:07 PM EST
I use blue on mine.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:11:32 PM EST
Once I get things the way I want them I loctite EVERYTHING.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:11:35 PM EST
Originally Posted By WOLFEMAN78:
I use blue on mine.


Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:12:14 PM EST
Originally Posted By WOLFEMAN78:
I use blue on mine.


Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:13:04 PM EST
Teflon tape is just as good.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:13:18 PM EST
Anything that has crews on my weapons are either blue or red locktited in depending on what kind of temperatures the part will be exposed to.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:14:11 PM EST
Originally Posted By Panta_Rei:
Teflon tape is just as good.


I don't think so...
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:14:14 PM EST
blue
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:14:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Evil_One:
Anything that has crews on my weapons are either blue or red locktited in depending on what kind of temperatures the part will be exposed to.

Yes.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:14:44 PM EST
Blue Locktite here too.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:14:50 PM EST
Go red and you're dead
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:15:23 PM EST
Blue on mine as well

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Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:16:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By CarbineDad:
Go red and you're dead

Naw, green is the good stuff.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:16:54 PM EST
Glad I'm not the only one, this guy at work kept saying that the scope makers warned not to use it.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:18:18 PM EST
No

Clean screws and screw holes with denatured alcohol, torque to 15 inch pounds evenly. If rings are lapped, scope will not move when firing.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:18:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By Aiden:
I always Loctite every screw on a firearm


Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:19:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By Aiden:
Glad I'm not the only one, this guy at work kept saying that the scope makers warned not to use it.


Probably because they've seen scopes glued into the rings, or destroyed cap screws from trying to disassemble it.

I do some pretty hardcore stuff, like epoxy bedding a scope into the rings, but I will not use Loctite on cap screws.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:20:12 PM EST
Originally Posted By Panta_Rei:
Teflon tape is just as good.


Ptfe is slippery. That is not what you want.

Tape is used when someone isn't willing to do things right and lap the rings.

I use (iirc) 602 green to bed the base to the reciever. Install rings and lap them. Then the green between the scope and rings. All screws get red. Be sure to torque all screws to the appropriate in. lbs. Over tightening only over stresses the screws and threads.

Yes, it's permanent (not really). It's permanent unless you apply a soldering iron or acetone then they come right apart.

I've NEVER had a scope shift.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:20:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By KevinCa316:
Once I get things the way I want them I loctite EVERYTHING.


This with the blue stuff.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:21:51 PM EST
I always use blue loctite, 242.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:22:45 PM EST
Originally Posted By WOLFEMAN78:
I use blue on mine.


Originally Posted By KevinCa316:
Once I get things the way I want them I loctite EVERYTHING.


Ditto to both of the above.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:23:14 PM EST
Blue here too. Anything with threads.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:24:12 PM EST
Originally Posted By Dave_H:
Blue here too. Anything with threads.


Holy shit, I thought you were Dave_A for a second!
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:24:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/10/2013 12:25:44 PM EST by RIA45ACP]
Never have used it on the ring themselves, always use blue on the base. Never had anything come loose on somewhere around 35-45 rifles, everything from 22lr to 458 Winchester.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:25:27 PM EST
I have never loctited them on any type/caliber of rifle.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:26:16 PM EST
Purple
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:28:28 PM EST
Never on anything, except if suggested by manufacturer on internal parts. Everything gets a pre-flight check before range time and then again at cleaning.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:29:12 PM EST
use the blue. if you don't mind spending a small fortune on Black Max, use it on anything you don't want to be removed of loosned ever again. I think it's about $60 an Oz. pricey but works VERY well.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:31:36 PM EST
Originally Posted By m200maker:
use the blue. if you don't mind spending a small fortune on Black Max, use it on anything you don't want to be removed of loosned ever again. I think it's about $60 an Oz. pricey but works VERY well.


I use blue on things that might need to come off again, and red for everything I want to stay for good.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:32:10 PM EST
Blue Threadlocker user here.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:33:25 PM EST
Originally Posted By m200maker:
use the blue. if you don't mind spending a small fortune on Black Max, use it on anything you don't want to be removed of loosned ever again. I think it's about $60 an Oz. pricey but works VERY well.


How interesting.

One of my friends has a .408 rifle that I had to modify the scope base for...
He used Black Max under the base for final assembly.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:34:50 PM EST
Originally Posted By m200maker:
use the blue. if you don't mind spending a small fortune on Black Max, use it on anything you don't want to be removed of loosned ever again. I think it's about $60 an Oz. pricey but works VERY well.


That black max stuff is no bs...I cut down a Ruger Blackhawk and used that to put the front site back on...5 years and 2000+ of 45 Colt later its still stuck on there.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:34:55 PM EST
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By m200maker:
use the blue. if you don't mind spending a small fortune on Black Max, use it on anything you don't want to be removed of loosned ever again. I think it's about $60 an Oz. pricey but works VERY well.


How interesting.

One of my friends has a .408 rifle that I had to modify the scope base for...
He used Black Max under the base for final assembly.


But you would have no problem removing blue Loctite...which is what I and most others use. Right?
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:39:31 PM EST
Originally Posted By Aiden:
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By m200maker:
use the blue. if you don't mind spending a small fortune on Black Max, use it on anything you don't want to be removed of loosned ever again. I think it's about $60 an Oz. pricey but works VERY well.


How interesting.

One of my friends has a .408 rifle that I had to modify the scope base for...
He used Black Max under the base for final assembly.


But you would have no problem removing blue Loctite...which is what I and most others use. Right?


No, it's usually not a problem to get off. Red, if it's applied to properly cleaned and prepped threads, is damn near permanent.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:40:45 PM EST
Originally Posted By KevinCa316:
Once I get things the way I want them I loctite EVERYTHING.


Same here.

Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:46:28 PM EST
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By Aiden:
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By m200maker:
use the blue. if you don't mind spending a small fortune on Black Max, use it on anything you don't want to be removed of loosned ever again. I think it's about $60 an Oz. pricey but works VERY well.


How interesting.

One of my friends has a .408 rifle that I had to modify the scope base for...
He used Black Max under the base for final assembly.


But you would have no problem removing blue Loctite...which is what I and most others use. Right?


No, it's usually not a problem to get off. Red, if it's applied to properly cleaned and prepped threads, is damn near permanent.


I learned my lesson with red Loctite on my Jeep. I had to use MAPP gas and a two foot breaker bar to free the bolt.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:47:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By txgp17:
I always use blue loctite, 242.


Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:48:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By KevinCa316:
Once I get things the way I want them I loctite EVERYTHING.

+1

All scope screw/bolts
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:48:55 PM EST
Originally Posted By BeauBeaux:
No

Clean screws and screw holes with denatured alcohol, torque to 15 inch pounds evenly. If rings are lapped, scope will not move when firing.




+1
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:52:55 PM EST

Originally Posted By basicone:
Originally Posted By BeauBeaux:
No

Clean screws and screw holes with denatured alcohol, torque to 15 inch pounds evenly. If rings are lapped, scope will not move when firing.




+1
Lap the rings first to assure proper contact, then degrease and torque them. In 30 years, I've never had a ring screw come loose.

Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:53:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By Aiden:
I've always used blue Loctite on scope rings, but some friends tell me you should never put Loctite on them. I always Loctite every screw on a firearm, am I wrong?


I use blue Loctite on my ring cap screws, torquing them down to 20 in/# for steel and ~18 in/# for alloy rings. I then make a witness mark across the screw head and onto the edge of the cap proper, to visually show me if the screws start backing out any.

Chris

Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:55:30 PM EST
on my rimfires that don't generate alot of recoil I just tighten the screws down. On anything else use blue loctite.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:56:59 PM EST
Blue loctite on scope bases and rings.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:58:04 PM EST
I think I did, let me look.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 12:59:20 PM EST

I think I did, let me look.
Oh shit, I know what I will be doing next weekend.

Link Posted: 2/10/2013 1:05:30 PM EST
I usually use the purple(wicking) thread sealer. Had a guy bring me a rifle that he had used the green on his rings and mount. Wondered why he couldn't budge them. Told him green was permanent. Took a few days to carefully cut it apart without damaging the scope.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 1:06:18 PM EST
yes, nothing else though unless it is not critical, firearm screws are designed to work without locktite
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 1:07:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By 50cal:
I usually use the purple(wicking) thread sealer. Had a guy bring me a rifle that he had used the green on his rings and mount. Wondered why he couldn't budge them. Told him green was permanent. Took a few days to carefully cut it apart without damaging the scope.


Red and Green have their place, but blue is best for most applications.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 1:08:29 PM EST
Originally Posted By wwace:
yes, nothing else though unless it is not critical, firearm screws are designed to work without locktite


I like a little extra insurance, and blue Loctite is not difficult to remove.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 1:09:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By WOLFEMAN78:
I use blue on mine.

Yep!

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