Well his tune sure fuckin changed after the cop smacked him...didn't it?  

I sure heard a lot of "yes sir" and "no sir" after that...maybe if he had initiated his conversation like that to begin with the outcome would have been completely different...

I guess maybe we'll just have to agree to disagree about this...but I was taught to show respect to someone in uniform and so far i haven't ended up with a knee in my chest, that logic has yet to let me down.

Someone, a few pages back, appropriately likened that to a battered wife.

the heart of the issue is the young man was victimized twice. Of course he had an attitude: he just got robbed and had his ass kicked. The cop should of given him some slack before jumping all over him.
Was he then arrested? Answer no...hence the cop knew he was in the wrong else he would of arrested him as he knew It might not go well for him in front of a judge

Cops are supposed to protect all law abiding citizens even the ones who they think are punks
I rest my case

There is only one simple reason: you have been VERY lucky.

Hey, can we just cut to the heart of the matter? The police officer in that video... was a cunt.

Wow... he smacked someone. ANYONE can smack someone. All you need is an attitude, low self-esteem, and a badge. Whoop-de-shit.

However, a cop? A cop can talk almost anyone off of the ledge. A cop knows the art of "The Long Stroke."

Yes sir... no, ma'am... I apologize... what can I do to help? Jerk 'em off, and they love you. They'll do anything you want... and they'll think it was their idea.

Shit, if they get obstreperous, fuck it... you open them up like a can of cat food. Until that point, you work 'em.

Old timers in my shop told me, "ANYONE can make an arrest. A good cop... can shitcan ANYTHING."


Honestly? I would not work with the officer in that video. I wouldn't ride with him, and I wouldn't want him backing on one of my jobs.

Guys like that always manage to make a situation worse. Who needs that?

Hey, this is America. We are all entitled to our own opinion. I think the guy was a dick.

He might be a police officer... but he ain't a cop.

Epic win to you merely for using that word.

You sound like a pussy.  Like your badge do you?  Bring it you fuck.

Which one.

Well, at least I got in before the lock.

Cop took a situation that wasn't a problem, and made one.

Yep, that cop was a real badass intimidating an unarmed man who called for help and then physically assaulting him with one hand on his gun the whole time he stood behind that badge.  Probably felt pretty good about himself after that.  It's sad that judges won't put pieces of shit like that in prison and even sadder that people like you have any respect that kind of trash.

Your tune will most definitely change after a cop "smacks" you. It will probably happen, as you don't see the problem with the behavior of this "police officer" Marine maroon SLAPPING DOWN A SOLDIER.



Bend over and take the pain, the police have your best interest in their heart.......

Go be a cop again. We need more like you.

I responded to a irate complaint today.  Guy invited me in to observe what he was complaining about.  Continued to verbally demean the management of his complex...calling the female staff every name in the book.  When I told him it was a maintenance issue that I could do nothing about, he started to verbally demean me.  I tried to calm him down but he would not. Told him I did not have to listen to that, and that really set him off.  Opened the door and asked me to leave...calling me a useless fuck while doing it.  I simply smiled and left.  

That guy decided to be a dick about the response time which I'm sure was not actually 45 minutes.  Once he started acting like a dick the cop stepped forward in what I'll assume was him positioning himself for a takedown in case the guy got any more belligerent, which he quickly did.  Once the guy started pulling the "I'm a US Soldier, know who you're talking to" he became a threat and the officers took him down and held him down until he calmed down.  I skipped through parts of the video after that and I believe they didn't even charge the guy.



Cops didn't escalate shit and I probably would have done the same exact thing they did.  That guy decided to act like a hardass and got put in his place for it.

HOLY FUCK!!! There is some common sense in here!

Well hey..... do whatever works for you......feel free to run your mouth and get an attitude with the police, I honestly don't give a shit.  In the end I may sound like a battered wife, but you'll be the one who looks like one.

That's right citizen. You are beneath us and you better god damn well remember it.

Lurk more, noob.



 

ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY!

Drive around in the monkey suit long enough, in that brightly painted rolling target... you're going to have problems.

Why make more trouble for yourself?

Awe look at the internet commando.

Already did for five years. I am done.

Are you sure runcible's account didn't get hacked by wunbadweel?

The guy didn't say anything aggressively or even act particularly agitated until the cop started arguing about the 45min response time. The cop clearly escalated at every step.

Hmmmm, you might be on to something there . . .

Well if you're that concerned that someone is possibly dangerous and you're that unsure about what their next move might be, you sure as shit don't move closer to them and yell in their face.  You keep your distance while assessing the situation.  This cops only concern was his own ego.

Tongue in cheek humor losses you?

I put him more in the category of hysterical

I see.  Kinda like this.



So you justify beating someone if they don't bow and scrape in your presence.
So anyone who doesn't kiss your ass is a threat.
I sure hope the 'officers' who shot up this 'dangerous' newspaper delivery truck, made it home safely.

Had this situation played out exactly the same except not a single word was mentioned about military, all of you would be like "GOOD TAKEDOWN ZOMG HURR DURR."  Typical GD bullshit.



 

I wouldn't give him a reason to slap me to begin with...

Ok lets say you're the cop, what would you have done?

Maybe give him a big hug, a reach around, pat him on the back and say..."OK US Soldier, I'm sorry it took a while to get here...everythings gonna be ok now...where are the big bad men that bitch slapped you? "

You have no idea what this guys mental state is or how hes going to react...better to control the situation than let the situation control you.

The complete ignorance in this thread is beyond comprehnsion!



I said it before, I will say it again:

For those unfamiliar with police work one of the first things to do when arriving on a scene as this is to establish if the person or persons involved are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. By stepping close to the complaintant, the cop can get a smell of the person that can help in assessing the situation. A drunk or high person under stress is much different than a sober one. When asking the complainant to put out the cigarette, he is ensuring the person is not smoking something that can alter his state of mind. If the initial call was actually made 45 minutes prior, that is plenty of time to cool off a bit and have an entire pack of smokes.

How in the hell are those two incidents even remotely related other than the fact that police officers were involved?  All you accomplished with that post is basically just outing yourself as a cop basher.



At what point was that douchebag "beaten?"  He was taken down and held until he calmed down.  Then the officers helped him up and didn't even charge him.



 

Watch it again. The jackboot very clearly aggressively steps up to the guy then accuses him of "getting in his face." The victim replied "You stepped forward to me, I did not step forward to you." The jackboot immediately assaults him. I'd say that's escalating it.

You are one of the good cops. We all deal with booger eating morons who feel entitled to gross compensation from any official who doesn't agree with them. Your actions are honorable, and restrained. I'm sure you could have cheerfully choked his ass, but you used your discretion and left a non-issue alone. Kudos

There certainly would be less people defending the cop because he said he is a marine.  

Yes, the officer did step forward and did so in what I assume was him positioning himself to take the guy down if he got any more belligerent...which he did, and he got taken down for it.  I missed the part where he was beaten according to certain usual suspects in this thread.  They missed the part where the officers helped the guy up and didn't even charge him for it.



Also, we don't know that the officer was actually in the guy's face because it's all through a camera somewhere on the officer.  We can only assume the actual position of the officer in relation to the douchebag.



 

You sound like a democrat when you start the name calling.

If I need to connect the dots for you...
Cop did escalate.
You justify physical violence because of an assumed threat based on someone's lack of 'respect'.
The 'force continuum', justifies any action that a police officer takes.
Nobody wins the us vs them...We are all Americans.

People on this site always say they long for the "good 'ole days of policing" where cops would do just that. Well, this is what it looks like on video.


We had nights way worse than that sometimes. I remember one Memorial Day weekend where we were showing up on scene over 2 hours after people had called.

It's GD...you should expect wide spread and overwhelming ignorance...

Depends on the state. Not in NY.

Charge him for what?

Also, it goes without saying that they wouldn't need to help him up if they wouldn't have attacked him in the first place.

But that only applies to subjects, I mean citizens, right?

Cop got aggressive first.

They are both idiots.  You don't walk up to an officer swearing/complaining about the time it took him to get there.  From what I gathered, the man had a minor scuffle and the people that "attacked" him were still in the house he was at.  You do not know what those officers were doing before hand and they do no control the calls that they get. A dispatcher puts the calls out....Also, just because you a soldier, doesn't give you a free pass to be a punk.

The officer should have not stepped forward the way he did.  He could have dealt with the situation is much calmer manner.  He also shouldn't have thrown out that he was marine.  it is irrelevant to the situation at hand.The person in question did not show any hostile intentions.  The person in question was very rude and had an attitude problem, but he was not a threat.

At the end of the day, i put this up as 2 fucking idiots trying to see whose balls are bigger.

You would make a fine cop. Reacting to potential problems instead of dealing with the realities. If I was the cop, I'd sternly tell him to chill out. The way he was bitchified after the slap, I know he would have complied without a problem. People are people, not problems to be "mitigated".



Oh, and BTW, 11H really isn't infantry, but they didn't want to invent a new branch of combat arms. The CIB only counts if you actually personally engaged the enemy. Not with the Hughes missile, But in individual combat. I spent a few years as an 11 hotel, then went 11 mike, then bravo. I retired as an 11Z.

Yeah, if what was in that video is what that cop considers "attitude" or "shit talking" then he wouldn't last ten minutes where I worked.

Fewer.

00:28 - Douchebag finishes his quick version of what happened and brings up the officer's response time.



00:30 - Officer state's they aren't on douchebag's "time watch".



00:34 - Officer tries to continue speaking and the douchebag starts acting belligerent.  Starts pointing at the officer while cussing.  At this point any officer would start thinking "Ok, this guy is starting to act like an ass and may become a problem.



00:37 - Officer continues to finish what he was saying, takes 1-2 steps forward.  We can only assume how close the officer got because we are looking through a camera on his person.  Assumption and what's being said are all we have to go on.



00:38 - At this point douchebag says "US soldier bro, know who you're talking to."  He made the decision to square off with a police officer at this point.  He is now a possible threat to the officer.



00:41 - Officer asks douchebag if he's getting in his face.  Douchebag argues that the officer got in his face first.  Officer says he is trying to talk to him, twice if I recall correctly.



00:45 - Takedown occurs.  At this point you can't see much due to camera angle so we don't know if the guy stepped forward at the officer, or made any sort of threatening move.  All we know is that the guy was becoming more belligerent over the last 10 seconds or so, they argued, then the officer took him down.



From that point on the douchebag was held down and repeatedly asked if he was calmed down yet.  The officer eventually helped him up, eventually uncuffed him, and near the end of the video they were having an normal conversation.



Sorry but the cop was in the right.  Once douchebag started cussing the officers he became a threat and was taken down/held down until he cooled off.  The officers could have jacked him up, tased him, charged/arrested him, etc.  Instead they helped him up, didn't charge him, and were holding a normal convo with him towards the end of the video.  Of course since they were officers and this guy was a soldier at some point, the usual suspects aren't happy about it.  Officers should have given the guy praise and handjobs for being so hardcore.

Some guys can't handle being disrespected.  It just doesn't bother me, and if it does....I never let them see it. Burn yourself out if you do.

I came across ones wayyy worse than that during my time.