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Posted: 2/7/2013 11:30:42 AM EDT
Wish this was a little more in depth Status of gun industry: XXXX XXXX has several important info updates about the status of the gun industry currently, followed by an inventory update. We traveled to Texas for Industry meetings concerning the shortages, here's what we were told. Smith & Wesson-is running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages. RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days. FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March. Remington-Maxed out! Armalite: Maxed out. DPMS: Can't get enough parts to produce any more product. COLT: Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier's. LWRC: Making only black guns, running at full capacity...can't get enough gun quality steel to make barrels. Springfield Armory: only Company who can meet demand but are running 30-45 days behind. AMMO: Every caliber is now allocated! We are looking at a nationwide shortage of all calibers over the next 9 months. All plants are producing as much ammo as possible with 1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by law enforcement, and civilians are third in line. MAGPUL is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of magpul anytime soon. RELOADERS... ALL Remington, Winchester, CCI & Federal primers are going to ammo FIRST. There are no extras for reloading purposes... it could be 6-9 months before things get caught up. Sorry for the bleak news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months. Stay tuned, we'll keep you posted. Bow Owens says they didn�t know when they�d be getting anything back in stock, from magazines to rifles to pistols. Manufacturers were running full-bore, but couldn�t come close to keeping up with market demand. It wasn�t just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs that were sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era M1 Garands, M1 carbines, and Enfield .303s were gone, along with every last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin-Nagants -- of which every gun store always seems to have 10-20 -- were gone. So was their ammo. Only a dust free space marked their passing. I�ve never seen anything like it. Every weapon of military utility designed within the past 100+ years was gone. This isn�t a society stocking up on certain guns because they fear they may be banned. This is a society preparing for war. |
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So basically the panic will continue for 6 to 9 months. That's about how long I expected it to take back when all this started.
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Even Colt can't buy Bolt Carriers.
1 billion rounds per week and 1 million pmags behind....I like where this is heading. |
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how many mags can magpul churn out in a day? Rephrase that like a wood chuck chucking wood please |
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So basically the panic will continue for 6 to 9 months. That's about how long I expected it to take back when all this started. maybe maybe not. Some folks may cancel orders if AWB fails. 8-9 months if everything stays as is. if demand stays then 8-9 months out on what you order from here until demand drops. |
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how many mags can magpul churn out in a day? Go to their industry forum and ask? |
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no source Yeah sounds like some keyboard commando typed this up. The two flags for me is the end statement about preparing for war has been passed around for the last month. The second is the "1 billion rounds per week" line. I doubt anyone has the ability to track ALL ammo mfgs inventory like that. And LWRC can't find steel for barrels? Doubtful. It's not like steel for barrels is specific to gun barrels. |
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how many mags can magpul churn out in a day? Gazillions |
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see, wht is really happening is that the dems are supporting the 2nd with reverse psychology
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http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/02/robert-farago/valley-guns-report-from-the-font-lines-of-the-great-guns-n-ammo-shortage/
I'm sure it's mostly truthful, a lot of it we have already heard from our suppliers. The ammo thing seems a little odd though. 1 billion rounds a week is a LOT of ammo. If that part is true and MIL and LE is keeping the civilian market this dried up, it is a scary situation. Our local PD doesn't have any direct contract with any manufacturer. Hell they were just buying at Walmart before all of this hit. It isn;t like all PD's are set up with huge distributors like Acusport or RSR. They don't have any money to set up bulk accounts with anyone. And truth be known, a lot of PD's across the nation are just as broke. |
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no source Yeah sounds like some keyboard commando typed this up. The two flags for me is the end statement about preparing for war has been passed around for the last month. The second is the "1 billion rounds per week" line. I doubt anyone has the ability to track ALL ammo mfgs inventory like that. And LWRC can't find steel for barrels? Doubtful. It's not like steel for barrels is specific to gun barrels. Yeah sounds like BS to me. EVERY gun store is out of Nagants ZOMG!!! I just left Cabelas and there are about 14 of them sitting there collecting dust. |
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Even Colt can't buy Bolt Carriers. 1 billion rounds per week and 1 million pmags behind....I like where this is heading. it makes me all warm and fuzzy |
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no source Yeah sounds like some keyboard commando typed this up. The two flags for me is the end statement about preparing for war has been passed around for the last month. The second is the "1 billion rounds per week" line. I doubt anyone has the ability to track ALL ammo mfgs inventory like that. And LWRC can't find steel for barrels? Doubtful. It's not like steel for barrels is specific to gun barrels. Yeah, not sure about the barrel thing, haven't heard that one yet. They have suspended Cerakote since sometime in late December early January. |
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Quoted: Quoted: how many mags can magpul churn out in a day? Rephrase that like a wood chuck chucking wood please How many mags can Magpul chuck if Magpul could chuck mags? |
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no source It's the only way to keep the panic going. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_219/231406_Shocker___somebody_sent_me_a_Gun_Industry_Status_Report.html |
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I am seeing the same thing the OP posted other places inthe internet.
Come on! S&W producing 300 guns a day? They produce WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than that in one day. 8nBAIT |
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how many mags can magpul churn out in a day? Rephrase that like a wood chuck chucking wood please How many mags can Magpul chuck if Magpul could chuck mags? How many mags could a magpul pull if a mag pull could pull mags? |
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I am seeing the same thing the OP posted other places inthe internet. not everything you read on the internet is true |
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how many mags can magpul churn out in a day? Rephrase that like a wood chuck chucking wood please Beat like a fat guy sprinting to the jerky table at a gunshow. |
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XXXX XXXX has several important info updates about the status of the gun industry currently, followed by an inventory update. We traveled to Texas for Industry meetings concerning the shortages, here's what we were told. Let me guess, you got this forwarded to you in an email? Why would competitors convene an "industry meeting" to discuss the fact they're selling more than they can make? It's not as if colt will agree to send some business to FN or FN will divert parts to DPMS. They are COMPETITORS in an open market. |
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So basically the panic will continue for 6 to 9 months. That's about how long I expected it to take back when all this started. maybe maybe not. Some folks may cancel orders if AWB fails. 8-9 months if everything stays as is. if demand stays then 8-9 months out on what you order from here until demand drops. To be balanced out by those () waiting for things to cool down. It's going to be a tug of war between the cancelations and the "Never Again" crowd. Crap, I'm down to my last 20 Super Colibris for varmint control. The only other thing I'm remotely short of is .22LR and when things get back to whatever "normal" is going to be I'm going to jump in with both feet. |
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how many mags can magpul churn out in a day? Rephrase that like a wood chuck chucking wood please How many mags can Magpul chuck if Magpul could chuck mags? How many mags could a magpul pull if a mag pull could pull mags? As many mags as a magpul could pull if a magpul could pull mags. |
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Glock allegedly has an 800,000+ pistol backorder. A Glock is easier to get than a true grenade.... |
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how many mags can magpul churn out in a day? Rephrase that like a wood chuck chucking wood please How many mags can Magpul chuck if Magpul could chuck mags? |
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Quality control is gonna suffer. This is my concern as well. |
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It seems to me that if the true purpose of the Second Amendment were put into action one side might be on the losing end due to attrition of ammunition.
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Talked to a Remington Sales Rep today. He said that all Remington Factories are running 3 shifts, 24/7. They are producing as much ammo and guns as they can.
He said that .22 ammo will be a long time away from getting back to where you see it on the shelves. Saying that a lot of stores who usually buy $100,000 a year, are putting in orders for $1,000,000 worth of ammo and that they would be lucky to get any of it within this next year. He said the Rem plant in Arkansas is pumping as much ammo as it can produce....at a rate he has never seen before. He also said that Remington sent out a letter to all suppliers yesterday stating that there will be a price increase on all guns and ammo on April 1st. It was interesting that he said that they have not raised any prices at all since this began....still selling Bushmasters at the same price they were before panic. He said ammo actually was supossed to go down in price January 1st, but then all of this happened. He said that he thinks this will pass and the market will be flooded with guns and ammo sometime this year. Take it for what its worth. He's been in the gun business for over 30 years |
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Stopped at the Cabelas in Hammond Indiana, .308, 9mm, 45 auto all gone, four boxes of 30.06 were all that was left. Surprisingly had quite a bit of herters 7.62x39 $8.00 a box
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Got the Remington Letter Yesterday...That is true...Price increase...April 1st. 3% all UMC Ammo.
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how many mags can magpul churn out in a day? Rephrase that like a wood chuck chucking wood please How many mags can Magpul chuck if Magpul could chuck mags? How many mags could a magpul pull if a mag pull could pull mags? awesome |
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Quoted: Connecticut wins the Loony Left award again. All started by one loony retard in CT. |
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So FNH knew they had shortages of SCAR 17 mags and was only running light load to begin with?
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NFA approvals are about 10-12 months... That, at least, should be easing up. Thay have hired some temps/contractors to help clear some of the backlog. |
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no source Yeah sounds like some keyboard commando typed this up. The two flags for me is the end statement about preparing for war has been passed around for the last month. The second is the "1 billion rounds per week" line. I doubt anyone has the ability to track ALL ammo mfgs inventory like that. And LWRC can't find steel for barrels? Doubtful. It's not like steel for barrels is specific to gun barrels. 4140 is pretty damned common. I bought some last week. |
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how many mags can magpul churn out in a day? Rephrase that like a wood chuck chucking wood please How many mags can Magpul chuck if Magpul could chuck mags? How many mags could a magpul pull if a mag pull could pull mags? +1. This is how I was going to do it. I |
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Old news. Mark Larue posted that here about a little while ago.
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TThis sucks if you didnt get in.
This is good news for us though, as you simply cannot argue with the numbers. TThe numbers say that the anti's kicked a hornets nest, and that they may not have the political backing they thought due to the rapid increase in gun rights people becoming aware that they need, must get involved. |
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