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Posted: 10/22/2013 4:14:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2013 4:16:10 AM EDT
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Just rumors but:
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Posted: 10/22/2013 4:23:00 AM EDT
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That's the way it should be, IMO. I have always liked works teams better. It just seems to me that a team's WHOLE F1 car should be built by the team. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AWWW SHIT this is not good. http://grandprix247.com/2013/10/18/works-teams-to-have-v6-engine-advantage-says-brawn/ WHY FIA? WHY, You motherfuckers are so afraid of innovation that you hamstring the shit out of non-works teams. I seriously hope this doesn't include the ERS systems the teams are working on too. That's the way it should be, IMO. I have always liked works teams better. It just seems to me that a team's WHOLE F1 car should be built by the team. Of course.. But it's so much easier to be a British/French/Austrian "assembler" 
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Posted: 10/22/2013 6:06:04 AM EDT
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looks like NJ is getting Valencia's barricades I thought 2014 was Valencia's turn to host the Spanish GP. |
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Posted: 10/22/2013 6:07:41 AM EDT
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As far as the turbo cooling, you will end up with intercoolers wedged in the sidepods and they will be watercooled also. I would hate to be the poor bastard that has to design the air box for these cars though, not a lot of space there for intercooler piping. Cooling of the new ERS systems systems will probably be of the liquid variety, but I don't know if they would tap off the car's cooling system or have their own separate system. As far as development, Barely anything you use in F1 would ever apply to a production car, the level of performance and more so longevity required is just too different except in regards to some $200K plus supercars. I'm still trying to figure out who came up with this idea, but I'm betting Jean Todt (FIA Pres.) had a hand in it, along with some Renault engineers as they were so successful with the original turbos. It's all speculation though as I've not been able to get ANY info from the guys I know that work at f1 teams. It's not all bad though, if they sound like the video below, I'm game, and the sport does need a little shaking up. I wouldn't worry too much about how they sound though, you lose that top end scream, but you get turbo noises, and we all know that turbo noises make EVERYTHING better. 
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I would hate to be the engineer fighting with the aerodynamicist. |
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Posted: 10/22/2013 6:53:38 AM EDT
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Just rumors but: https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/994945_525839957493096_1126205396_n.jpg Thats actually not a bad looking car. |
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Posted: 10/22/2013 8:22:53 AM EDT
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Don't the Porsche F1 rumors start about this time every year?
It would be awesome if they came back though. I'd love to see more "works" teams. |
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Posted: 10/22/2013 10:28:19 AM EDT
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Just rumors but: https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/994945_525839957493096_1126205396_n.jpg oooohh.. please, please |
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Posted: 10/22/2013 2:50:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't the Porsche F1 rumors start about this time every year? |
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Posted: 10/23/2013 2:40:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't the Porsche F1 rumors start about this time every year? It would be awesome if they came back though. I'd love to see more "works" teams.  |
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Posted: 10/24/2013 10:24:41 AM EDT
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Oh...Fernando...
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Posted: 10/24/2013 1:47:27 PM EDT
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There may not be a race this weekend.
"India’s Supreme Court will deliberate tomorrow whether Sunday’s grand prix at the Buddh International Circuit should go ahead." http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/10/24/indian-court-to-rule-on-whether-race-should-be-cancelled/ |
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Posted: 10/24/2013 2:48:19 PM EDT
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There may not be a race this weekend. "India’s Supreme Court will deliberate tomorrow whether Sunday’s grand prix at the Buddh International Circuit should go ahead." http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/10/24/indian-court-to-rule-on-whether-race-should-be-cancelled/ 
Cripes... the institution of government is SO wonderful... |
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Posted: 10/24/2013 3:15:46 PM EDT
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Cripes... the institution of government is SO wonderful... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There may not be a race this weekend. "India’s Supreme Court will deliberate tomorrow whether Sunday’s grand prix at the Buddh International Circuit should go ahead." http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/10/24/indian-court-to-rule-on-whether-race-should-be-cancelled/
Cripes... the institution of government is SO wonderful... what a joke if they do not race Vettel can still party and he won the Championship. I hope they will not be so foolish and stop this race. They will not be back anyhow but to leave this way is just stupid. In my opinion I never understood why they went there with all the hassle to get the equipment in and out of the country, the tax situation and so on. Again I hope they come to there senses all this money that is already spend on this event more info here looks like this is common in India |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 4:28:07 AM EDT
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Vettel and Webber ahead of everyone in p1 and p2. Again...
Most boring season ever.. And it's not like teams are trying to improve anymore.. Everybody is working for 2014 only. Those new no testing rules really are amazing 
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Posted: 10/25/2013 4:40:53 AM EDT
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Vettel and Webber ahead of everyone in p1 and p2. Again... Most boring season ever.. And it's not like teams are trying to improve anymore.. Everybody is working for 2014 only. Those new no testing rules really are amazing Darn... forgot to DVR the practice sessions. Anyways... though you and I see this year from opposing viewpoints... I couldn't agree more. What's the freakin point of racing if everyone's focused on next year? Obviously, the drivers are going to try to drive their best in every race. But it's like these big rules changes just make the teams say "you and your pit crew are on your own for the rest of the year". I'd rather see smaller, more incremental changes from year to year that don't press the teams to completely redesign everything in such a hurry.
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Posted: 10/25/2013 4:49:22 AM EDT
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I'd rather see smaller, more incremental changes from year to year that don't press the teams to completely redesign everything in such a hurry. Having transitional seasons where both Tech Regimes overlap would serve that purpose well. Be more interesting too. My prediction for next year is that one team will come out of the gate with an advantage and walk it, Mercedes being the most likely candidate. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 4:53:24 AM EDT
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Darn... forgot to DVR the practice sessions. Anyways... though you and I see this year from opposing viewpoints... I couldn't agree more. What's the freakin point of racing if everyone's focused on next year? Obviously, the drivers are going to try to drive their best in every race. But it's like these big rules changes just make the teams say "you and your pit crew are on your own for the rest of the year". I'd rather see smaller, more incremental changes from year to year that don't press the teams to completely redesign everything in such a hurry. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Vettel and Webber ahead of everyone in p1 and p2. Again... Most boring season ever.. And it's not like teams are trying to improve anymore.. Everybody is working for 2014 only. Those new no testing rules really are amazing Darn... forgot to DVR the practice sessions. Anyways... though you and I see this year from opposing viewpoints... I couldn't agree more. What's the freakin point of racing if everyone's focused on next year? Obviously, the drivers are going to try to drive their best in every race. But it's like these big rules changes just make the teams say "you and your pit crew are on your own for the rest of the year". I'd rather see smaller, more incremental changes from year to year that don't press the teams to completely redesign everything in such a hurry. That's right. Thing is that, since testing is very limited, and that the championship is all but mathematically over, every team use this year testing and racing time toward 2014. If testing was allowed like it use to be, works teams (with $$$) could be testing more toward this year and make the car evolve much faster, and we would see strong differences (good or bad) in between races.. A team could totally reverse the situation, like it use to happen. Not anymore. Now, everybody use every km on track they have toward 2014, since improving this year car has been useless for at least 2-3 races already. In fact, Ferrari stopped development on the current car after Monza. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 4:55:13 AM EDT
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Having transitional seasons where both Tech Regimes overlap would serve that purpose well. Be more interesting too. My prediction for next year is that one team will come out of the gate with an advantage and walk it, Mercedes being the most likely candidate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd rather see smaller, more incremental changes from year to year that don't press the teams to completely redesign everything in such a hurry. Having transitional seasons where both Tech Regimes overlap would serve that purpose well. Be more interesting too. My prediction for next year is that one team will come out of the gate with an advantage and walk it, Mercedes being the most likely candidate. Just like it happened with Brawn Gp |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 4:56:03 AM EDT
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Having transitional seasons where both Tech Regimes overlap would serve that purpose well. Be more interesting too. My prediction for next year is that one team will come out of the gate with an advantage and walk it, Mercedes being the most likely candidate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd rather see smaller, more incremental changes from year to year that don't press the teams to completely redesign everything in such a hurry. Having transitional seasons where both Tech Regimes overlap would serve that purpose well. Be more interesting too. My prediction for next year is that one team will come out of the gate with an advantage and walk it, Mercedes being the most likely candidate. Though I'm an RBR/Seb fan... it wouldn't bother me for things to get mixed-up a bit next year. Same ole, same ole gets boring after a while. Actually... it pains me to say it -- because some of the Ferarri fanatics can be so obnoxious -- but I'd like to see Kimi do very well next year. Just love his couldn't-care-less manner about everything. Obviously, he cares about winning. But I love the way that it deflates and frustrates the press that they can't get what they want out of him. 
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Posted: 10/25/2013 5:01:21 AM EDT
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That's right. Thing is that, since testing is very limited, and that the championship is all but mathematically over, every team use this year testing and racing time toward 2014. If testing was allowed like it use to be, works teams (with $$$) could be testing more toward this year and make the car evolve much faster, and we would see strong differences (good or bad) in between races.. A team could totally reverse the situation, like it use to happen. Not anymore. Now, everybody use every km on track they have toward 2014, since improving this year car has been useless for at least 2-3 races already. In fact, Ferrari stopped development on the current car after Monza. I'm all for no-holds-barred, no-expense-spared, NO-limits, all-out racing and R&D. The tracks are safer than ever before. So I think it would be awesome to see what the teams could do if no limits were placed on them. But of course... many of the teams would cease to exist because they just couldn't afford that. Maybe run an Unlimited class and a Limited class? I suppose that nobody would watch the limited class and it would dry-up financially. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 5:07:21 AM EDT
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I'm all for no-holds-barred, no-expense-spared, NO-limits, all-out racing and R&D. The tracks are safer than ever before. So I think it would be awesome to see what the teams could do if no limits were placed on them. But of course... many of the teams would cease to exist because they just couldn't afford that. Maybe run an Unlimited class and a Limited class? I suppose that nobody would watch the limited class and it would dry-up financially. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's right. Thing is that, since testing is very limited, and that the championship is all but mathematically over, every team use this year testing and racing time toward 2014. If testing was allowed like it use to be, works teams (with $$$) could be testing more toward this year and make the car evolve much faster, and we would see strong differences (good or bad) in between races.. A team could totally reverse the situation, like it use to happen. Not anymore. Now, everybody use every km on track they have toward 2014, since improving this year car has been useless for at least 2-3 races already. In fact, Ferrari stopped development on the current car after Monza. I'm all for no-holds-barred, no-expense-spared, NO-limits, all-out racing and R&D. The tracks are safer than ever before. So I think it would be awesome to see what the teams could do if no limits were placed on them. But of course... many of the teams would cease to exist because they just couldn't afford that. Maybe run an Unlimited class and a Limited class? I suppose that nobody would watch the limited class and it would dry-up financially. All the teams that matters would still be there.. Red bull, Ferrari, McLaren, Lotus, Mercedes... And the others wouldn't disappear either.. I think people have no idea of what kind of money is being spent on simulators, wind galleries, and race simulations, Plus. Look at MotoGP.. They have two different classes racing together. It isn't all that bad |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 5:12:43 AM EDT
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All the teams that matters would still be there.. Red bull, Ferrari, McLaren, Lotus, Mercedes... And the others wouldn't disappear either.. I think people have no idea of what kind of money is being spent on simulators, wind galleries, and race simulations, Plus. Look at MotoGP.. They have two different classes racing together. It isn't all that bad I love MotoGP, but they still have limits in terms of tires, engine displacement, etc. I'm talking NO restrictions in racing. I can't imagine the innovation that would happen if the teams didn't have to design anything to certain specs that limited performance. And haven't we been hearing that a few of the major works teams have been close to financially not being able to continue their racing programs due to the high cost and struggles with getting sponsors since their win records have been so low? (Obviously, Red Bull and Ferrari aren't in this situation.) |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 8:15:44 AM EDT
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With the financial crisis. Yes... But i wonder how true it was.. I guess it had more to do with BMW and Toyota not being able to score good enough results more than anything..
It you are a works team in F1 and you are constantly beaten by other brands, the image gain is more of a loss than anything. No shit. I'm not against regulation or for unregulated developments, but we reached a ridiculous point with the no testing rule. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 2:12:33 PM EDT
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Watching FP2....holy cow it's smoggy.
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Posted: 10/25/2013 3:09:23 PM EDT
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Wow, the left fronts aren't holding up.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 2:03:10 AM EDT
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well it just went down as expected
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Posted: 10/26/2013 2:18:12 AM EDT
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Only point to notice is that webber, and Alonso (don't know about raikonnen and number 7) have medium tires while all the others have softs.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 2:28:57 AM EDT
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Only point to notice is that webber, and Alonso (don't know about raikonnen and number 7) have medium tires while all the others have softs. hopefully that means that Webber will get his win |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 2:36:15 AM EDT
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No excuses this time. Vettel only needs to be 5th to be crowned
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Posted: 10/26/2013 3:24:06 AM EDT
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No excuses this time. Vettel only needs to be 5th to be crowned In before the "Vettel does not deserve it" rants Wulfmann |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:33:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No excuses this time. Vettel only needs to be 5th to be crowned Certainly not my wife! I said that during qualifying and she laughed at me. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:37:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what a joke if they do not race Vettel can still party and he won the Championship. I hope they will not be so foolish and stop this race. They will not be back anyhow but to leave this way is just stupid. In my opinion I never understood why they went there with all the hassle to get the equipment in and out of the country, the tax situation and so on. Again I hope they come to there senses all this money that is already spend on this event more info here looks like this is common in India Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: There may not be a race this weekend. "India’s Supreme Court will deliberate tomorrow whether Sunday’s grand prix at the Buddh International Circuit should go ahead." http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/10/24/indian-court-to-rule-on-whether-race-should-be-cancelled/ Cripes... the institution of government is SO wonderful... what a joke if they do not race Vettel can still party and he won the Championship. I hope they will not be so foolish and stop this race. They will not be back anyhow but to leave this way is just stupid. In my opinion I never understood why they went there with all the hassle to get the equipment in and out of the country, the tax situation and so on. Again I hope they come to there senses all this money that is already spend on this event more info here looks like this is common in India There is an Indian Grand Prix because Vijay Mallya paid Bernie for it. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:38:28 AM EDT
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Who thinks Vettel will pull over and let Webber through if their running one-two at the of the race? Certainly not my wife! I said that during qualifying and she laughed at me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No excuses this time. Vettel only needs to be 5th to be crowned Certainly not my wife! I said that during qualifying and she laughed at me. Looks like they are going to switch roles. Vettel as the soft tire rabbit with Webber on cruise control. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:45:44 AM EDT
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I'm sure webber don't want and don't give a fuck for vettel pulling aside to let him win.
I'm sure he would have prefered his team not fuckin him when he was leading and going to win |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 1:15:30 PM EDT
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Wonder how long Vettel's softs will last?
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Posted: 10/26/2013 1:37:22 PM EDT
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Pirelli just made this end-season snoozefest a little interesting...
http://grandprix247.com/2013/10/26/pirelli-there-has-to-be-more-testing-or-we-cant-do-the-tyres-for-2014/ |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 2:10:11 PM EDT
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Wonder how long Vettel's softs will last? If he manages them well some here will say he got a special compound Webber was not allowed to have. If Webber is on Vettel's ass i would think Vettel would let him through just to make sure there is no contact and he gets more than fifth place but if he lets him pass and take the win and years later ends up one short of Schumacher's total that would be looked back on as stupid. Wulfmann |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 2:19:13 PM EDT
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If he manages them well some here will say he got a special compound Webber was not allowed to have. you know, making caricatures out of people writings, doesnt make you any smarter |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:34:25 AM EDT
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what a start
looks like Alonso has front end damage |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:34:46 AM EDT
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wow Massa made a nice jump to second
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:37:05 AM EDT
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boy that was 3 laps on those tires
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:39:27 AM EDT
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Thank you webber,, thank fucking you,,,
Alonso has lost it.. The only thing he needed to do with his tires was o avoid contacts... 
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Posted: 10/27/2013 1:56:54 AM EDT
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Thank you webber,, thank fucking you,,, Alonso has lost it.. The only thing he needed to do with his tires was o avoid contacts... yes his race is done for sure |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:07:11 AM EDT
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Red bulls are so superior it's embarassing to watch
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:13:12 AM EDT
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Red bulls are so superior it's embarassing to watch I tough you where so upset and left when I saw you where offline. Alonso has made some great moves Kimi is really struggling as well I hope this is the day that Webber will get his win - personally speaking this would be the right thing to do but what do I know - |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:17:59 AM EDT
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Why the fuck didn't they stop massa before Rosberg, or at least one lap after ?
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:19:48 AM EDT
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I tough you where so upset and left when I saw you where offline. Alonso has made some great moves Kimi is really struggling as well I hope this is the day that Webber will get his win - personally speaking this would be the right thing to do but what do I know - Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Red bulls are so superior it's embarassing to watch I tough you where so upset and left when I saw you where offline. Alonso has made some great moves Kimi is really struggling as well I hope this is the day that Webber will get his win - personally speaking this would be the right thing to do but what do I know - Not upset at all.. Just pissed to wake up to watch an accident in the first lap ;) But I've been watching f1 for more than 20years.. Even when Ferrari was not a top team at all.. I ain't stopping now |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:24:40 AM EDT
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Not upset at all.. Just pissed to wake up to watch an accident in the first lap ;) But I've been watching f1 for more than 20years.. Even when Ferrari was not a top team at all.. I ain't stopping now Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Red bulls are so superior it's embarassing to watch I tough you where so upset and left when I saw you where offline. Alonso has made some great moves Kimi is really struggling as well I hope this is the day that Webber will get his win - personally speaking this would be the right thing to do but what do I know - Not upset at all.. Just pissed to wake up to watch an accident in the first lap ;) But I've been watching f1 for more than 20years.. Even when Ferrari was not a top team at all.. I ain't stopping now Alonso just took fastest lap |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 2:25:26 AM EDT
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Vettef is faster with mediums than Alonso with softs,.. HAHAHAH
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