LoneWolf30 Member Joined: Jan 2006  MI, USA Posts: 163 Feedback: 0% (0)	Posted: 1/23/2013 1:00:46 PM THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Sounds good to me. We all now have Personal Defense Weapons so now no one needs an assault weapon. DHS's PDW Now we can keep our PDW's since no one in Congress is talking about a Personal Defense Weapon ban. Hat tip to western rifle shooter Western Rifle Shooter
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Posted: 1/23/2013 1:08:16 PM [Last Edit: 1/23/2013 1:09:00 PM by TexasDoubleTap] Fending for, or heaven forbid, defending yourself is just a shade from terrorism these days. Self sufficient people store food, live within their means, and procure implements to defend their life and liberty. These traits do not help inflate the GDP or transfer power to the federal government. It is your civic duty to rely on government for all things. To resist is to deny your fellow subjects social justice.

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mks99 Team Member Team Member Joined: Oct 2009  IL, USA Posts: 1535 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 1:15:43 PM I like that. All my AR's will now be referred to as PDW's.
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LoneWolf30 Member Joined: Jan 2006  MI, USA Posts: 164 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 1:17:31 PM Originally Posted By cgtr86: Your first link is broken missing a : after http. http://radioviceonline.com/department-of-homeland-security-sport-rifle-ar-15-suitable-for-personal-defense/ Thanks for the fix. I should have previewed it.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 1:19:04 PM Originally Posted By cgtr86: Your first link is broken missing a : after http. http://radioviceonline.com/department-of-homeland-security-sport-rifle-ar-15-suitable-for-personal-defense/ Now, this ought to cause a shit storm in GD, if people read the article. After all, there is a huge contingent here who says " NO it fucking doesn't" " 4.The .223/5.56 self-defense round is appropriate for use within a home, even in an urban environment. Ballistic experts have found rounds from these calibers “dump energy” quickly and break apart or[red] begin to tumble after penetrating the first barrier[/red]. Will rifle rounds go through walls? You bet. Will pistol calibers like 9mm, .40 and .45 go through walls? You bet. Will shotgun rounds go through walls? You bet. That said, there is significant evidence the .223/5.56 self-defense rounds penetrate no more than, and often less than traditional handgun calibers and many shotgun rounds"

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fla556guy Member Team Member Joined: Oct 2005  TUN Posts: 14227 Feedback: 100% (23) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 1:20:26 PM HEHE now we just need the MSM to use it we all know they use assault weapons because it makes people who own them seem like storm troopers, or assault troops....etc..
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Kihn Member Joined: Jan 2001  FL, USA Posts: 14947 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 1:21:49 PM Originally Posted By mks99: I like that. All my AR's will now be referred to as PDW's. Not professional enough. Only government approved employees qualify to use officially designated terms. In civilian hands it is an 'assault weapon'. In government hands GOOD. In civilian hands BAD.
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devildog12210 Member Team Member Joined: Jan 2009  FL, USA Posts: 900 Feedback: 100% (2) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 1:22:17 PM Originally Posted By mks99: I like that. All my AR's will now be referred to as PDW's. I rape day in BO2 with my PDW-57.
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LowBeta boson's mate Team Member Joined: Nov 2008  IL, USA Posts: 7161 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 1:22:20 PM select fire, you say...?
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texassooner Member Team Member Joined: Nov 2004  TX, USA Posts: 6187 Feedback: 100% (155) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 1:26:20 PM Dupe
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autoxinvr6 Member Joined: Apr 2011  VA, USA Posts: 390 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 2:44:53 PM I wonder if things like this could be used in a Supreme Court trial? The DHS concluding a select fire is suitable for self defense and all.
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Mariner82 Member Team Member Joined: Jan 2013  VA, USA Posts: 85 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 2:47:13 PM Love this. Someone in DHS acquisition is going to get a really bad eval this year.
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BKC1869 Member Joined: Jul 2007  FL, USA Posts: 7928 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 2:52:30 PM I like PDW better than Assault Rifle.
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BangStick1 Member Joined: Jun 2004  FL, USA Posts: 13001 Feedback: 100% (2) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 3:00:14 PM Originally Posted By BKC1869: I like PDW better than Assault Rifle. The motion has a 2nd. Let's vote All in favor of calling the semi autos we love PDW's say I.
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jcncc Member Joined: Sep 2004  TX, USA Posts: 5309 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 3:02:45 PM No AR is an assault weapon so PDW sounds okay.
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nchapa Member Joined: Jun 2004  TX, USA Posts: 7265 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 3:03:19 PM Originally Posted By BangStick1: Originally Posted By BKC1869: I like PDW better than Assault Rifle. The motion has a 2nd. Let's vote All in favor of calling the semi autos we love PDW's say I. Its not "I" its "AYE".
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motown_steve WAAAAAY back and...GONE! Team Member Joined: Mar 2004  TX, USA Posts: 58309 Feedback: 100% (73) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 3:04:04 PM I LOVE IT! MUCH better than "Modern Sporting Rifle".
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moonjumper Member Team Member Joined: Jan 2008  AL, USA Posts: 919 Feedback: 100% (2) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 3:09:26 PM Originally Posted By nchapa: Originally Posted By BangStick1: Originally Posted By BKC1869: I like PDW better than Assault Rifle. The motion has a 2nd. Let's vote All in favor of calling the semi autos we love PDW's say I. Its not "I" its "AYE". I just like saying aye. Been watching too much Spongebob.
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BangStick1 Member Joined: Jun 2004  FL, USA Posts: 13003 Feedback: 100% (2) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 3:15:27 PM Originally Posted By nchapa: Originally Posted By BangStick1: Originally Posted By BKC1869: I like PDW better than Assault Rifle. The motion has a 2nd. Let's vote All in favor of calling the semi autos we love PDW's say I. Its not "I" its "AYE".
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azshooter71 Member Team Member Joined: Jun 2008  AZ, USA Posts: 18 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 3:18:27 PM This is a point I have always tried to hammer home when arguing with antis. In .gov's hands, it's a PDW, but in our hands it's a bullet spewing WMD whose sole purpose is to mow down as many people as quickly as possible. Such a double standard.
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Hedonist Keep shooting, my friends... Life Member Joined: Feb 2004  USA Posts: 23689 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 3:23:47 PM It's known as "the modern sporting rifle".
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cfishman Member Team Member Joined: Apr 2010  NE, USA Posts: 276 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 3:39:53 PM I see on the Sportsman Channel, Guns and Ammo TV, todays episode is on the evolution of th PDW
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jmadison Member Joined: Jan 2013  VT, USA Posts: 9 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 1/23/2013 3:54:07 PM DHS and its components have a requirement for a 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm This is an actual Assault Rifle not being called an Assault Rifle, but a Personal Defense Weapon. Yet semi-automatic rifles which are not selective fire are called "Assault Weapons" and routinely called Assault Rifles as well. This is so ridiculously Orwellian it's not even funny.
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