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Posted: 1/22/2013 8:38:31 AM
If I was to purchase the chemical components to make my own thermite, and mixed them together, would the mixture be legal?
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Posted: 1/22/2013 8:43:55 AM
Originally Posted By Redneck_in_Texas:
If I was to purchase the chemical components to make my own thermite, and mixed them together, would the mixture be legal?


NO I AM NOT A LAWYER BUT I DID ALOT OF DEMO IN THE .MIL WAS GIVEN MANY VERY CONVINCING BRIEFINGS FROM FBI AGENTS ON WHAT WAS LEGAL. DO NOT DO IT. IN FACT DO NOT PUT THE COMPONENTS IN THE SAME ROOM TREAT THEM LIKE A SBR UPPER AND UNREGISTERED LOWER.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 8:48:31 AM
Not a lawyer but from what I understand it is legal.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 8:59:44 AM
Did some research on this a couple years ago. It seems to be legal. Its pretty stable, non explosive, and requires a very high temp ignition source. If there was a law banning it, it would be very unenforceable as the materials needed can be found quite easily.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:00:51 AM

Originally Posted By SD307:
Originally Posted By Redneck_in_Texas:
If I was to purchase the chemical components to make my own thermite, and mixed them together, would the mixture be legal?


NO I AM NOT A LAWYER BUT I DID ALOT OF DEMO IN THE .MIL WAS GIVEN MANY VERY CONVINCING BRIEFINGS FROM FBI AGENTS ON WHAT WAS LEGAL. DO NOT DO IT. IN FACT DO NOT PUT THE COMPONENTS IN THE SAME ROOM TREAT THEM LIKE A SBR UPPER AND UNREGISTERED LOWER.


Huh? Thermite is used in welding. There was a video posted here sometime back of some railroad employees using it to weld rails. It gets real hot, but no boom.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:01:10 AM
You can buy it on gunbroker.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:05:32 AM
If rust and aluminum are illegal, every machine shop in the country is in violation. Just sayin'.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:05:55 AM
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Thermite is not an explosive, it is an incendiary.

I could walk out to our shotblast room and have some "rough" thermite mixed up in like 5 minutes, done it before.

To ignite it, you need a road flare or some magnesium, or something that burns very hot.

Sometimes our dust barrels will spontaneously ignite if you open them too fast and let oxygen hit the aluminum/steel dust.
They won't explode, but they'll sit there and smolder for a week.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:06:20 AM
Originally Posted By m193:

Originally Posted By SD307:
Originally Posted By Redneck_in_Texas:
If I was to purchase the chemical components to make my own thermite, and mixed them together, would the mixture be legal?


NO I AM NOT A LAWYER BUT I DID ALOT OF DEMO IN THE .MIL WAS GIVEN MANY VERY CONVINCING BRIEFINGS FROM FBI AGENTS ON WHAT WAS LEGAL. DO NOT DO IT. IN FACT DO NOT PUT THE COMPONENTS IN THE SAME ROOM TREAT THEM LIKE A SBR UPPER AND UNREGISTERED LOWER.


Huh? Thermite is used in welding. There was a video posted here sometime back of some railroad employees using it to weld rails. It gets real hot, but no boom.


All Thermite is, is aluminum (little flakes of it) and ferric oxide (aka red iron rust). No boom just very very hot. I've used it to weld tie plates. The hardest part is getting it to ignite, but I have successfully used a sparkler to do it.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:06:55 AM

Originally Posted By SD307:
Originally Posted By Redneck_in_Texas:
If I was to purchase the chemical components to make my own thermite, and mixed them together, would the mixture be legal?


NO I AM NOT A LAWYER BUT I DID ALOT OF DEMO IN THE .MIL WAS GIVEN MANY VERY CONVINCING BRIEFINGS FROM FBI AGENTS ON WHAT WAS LEGAL. DO NOT DO IT. IN FACT DO NOT PUT THE COMPONENTS IN THE SAME ROOM TREAT THEM LIKE A SBR UPPER AND UNREGISTERED LOWER.



Its fine. You really need to read more and not believe a bunch of douches with authoritative problems.

I guess I can't park my car in the garage with fertilized either-OMG WMDs.




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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:06:57 AM
I was just playing with some last week.

It's fun and safe.




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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:07:52 AM
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Even making most explosives is legal. Its the storage that can get you in trouble. So unless you have a legit and certified explosives bunker you have to use it the same day you make it. It would also be illegal to transport it. State laws vary.

And its still a loop hole the ATF can get you with.

you would have to make it where you intend to set it off. not sure if thermite falls in the case category.

Fun fact. if you let thermite freeze it will detonate when you try and burn it. (well the military stuff any way)
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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:23:44 AM
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Here you can buy it. Not even a hazmat fee.
http://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16_17_69&products_id=208


Because in order for it to ignite, the whole mail truck would have already been driven into a volcano
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Here you can buy it. Not even a hazmat fee.
http://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16_17_69&products_id=208


Because in order for it to ignite, the whole mail truck would have already been driven into a volcano



That would be an awesome video.


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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:28:35 AM
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Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:
Here you can buy it. Not even a hazmat fee.
http://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16_17_69&products_id=208


Because in order for it to ignite, the whole mail truck would have already been driven into a volcano


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Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:
If rust and aluminum are illegal, every machine shop in the country is in violation. Just sayin'.

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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:29:39 AM
Originally Posted By SD307:
Originally Posted By Redneck_in_Texas:
If I was to purchase the chemical components to make my own thermite, and mixed them together, would the mixture be legal?


NO I AM NOT A LAWYER BUT I DID ALOT OF DEMO IN THE .MIL WAS GIVEN MANY VERY CONVINCING BRIEFINGS FROM FBI AGENTS ON WHAT WAS LEGAL. DO NOT DO IT. IN FACT DO NOT PUT THE COMPONENTS IN THE SAME ROOM TREAT THEM LIKE A SBR UPPER AND UNREGISTERED LOWER.


This here (3rd item and down) Says that you can buy it online and have it shipped since it is neither HazMat, nor requires any ATFE paperwork
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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:36:41 AM
Because it has an internal oxygen source (the iron oxide), the reaction can't be stopped by methods that put out fire by depriving it of oxygen. Usually, the reaction just goes to completion.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:42:25 AM
Originally Posted By w12x40:
Because it has an internal oxygen source (the iron oxide), the reaction can't be stopped by methods that put out fire by depriving it of oxygen. Usually, the reaction just goes to completion.


That is why you don't use more than you need
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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:54:21 AM
Originally Posted By SD307:
Originally Posted By Redneck_in_Texas:
If I was to purchase the chemical components to make my own thermite, and mixed them together, would the mixture be legal?


NO I AM NOT A LAWYER BUT I DID ALOT OF DEMO IN THE .MIL WAS GIVEN MANY VERY CONVINCING BRIEFINGS FROM FBI AGENTS ON WHAT WAS LEGAL. DO NOT DO IT. IN FACT DO NOT PUT THE COMPONENTS IN THE SAME ROOM TREAT THEM LIKE A SBR UPPER AND UNREGISTERED LOWER.


These FBI agents were full of shit.