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3/20/2017 5:03:23 PM
Posted: 4/8/2001 10:12:41 PM EDT
As usual, watching the History Channel made me want to go buy another gun. This time it's a Luger. What a piece of work they are! Anyone see the .45 Luger? Oh my god, I had to mop up the drool when it was over! I was only about $799,000.00 away from bidding on it myself the last time it went up for auction. Seriously, I like them a lot, always have, but never fired or owned one. Are they still being made? What can you tell me about their current availability and how to select one for purchase? Which ones to buy, which to avoid? Any information would be helpful. Thanks.
Link Posted: 4/8/2001 10:16:46 PM EDT
They are still being made, but are expensive. You can by an original one cheaper. I would go this route. That way you buy a piece of history as well. I've seen good ones for $450.00 to $550.00. I have a few and they are sweet. I believe this is the second semiautomatic firearm in history. The first being the Borschardt.
Link Posted: 4/8/2001 10:18:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/8/2001 10:23:14 PM EDT by M15A2]
Wasn't the Broomhandle Mauser before the Luger?
Link Posted: 4/8/2001 10:22:19 PM EDT
I don't believe so. The original luger was swiss 1896 I believe. The PO8 was the german luger. I belive the broomhandle was about 1904. Not sure.
Link Posted: 4/8/2001 10:23:25 PM EDT
I would like to have all three.
Link Posted: 4/8/2001 10:24:25 PM EDT
Just looked at a newer used one at a gun store in stainless with the american eagle stamp on top of barel with luger stamp on it not stoeger. don't ask me I've never seen one like it. The clerk told me it was used but it seemed %99++, He also told me someone was making them under the Luger name again. but I don't believe everthing a gun store clerk tells me either. But the gun was a piece of art!! FHANTOM UP UP AND AWAY [pyro]
Link Posted: 4/8/2001 10:27:23 PM EDT
OK looked it up Borschardt 1893 broomhandle mauser 1896 swiss luger 1899 american luger 1900 commercial luger 1900(german) did my good deed for the night. Steyr out
Link Posted: 4/8/2001 10:30:21 PM EDT
Then the History Channel got it wrong. They suggested that the Luger preceeded the B.H. Mauser.
Link Posted: 4/8/2001 10:35:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By M4: Then the History Channel got it wrong. They suggested that the Luger preceeded the B.H. Mauser.
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They were probably trying to say that since the Luger was based on the Borschardt it came first.
Link Posted: 4/8/2001 11:34:58 PM EDT
2001 American Eagle Luger: Cal: 9mm Para, 7-shot mag Barrel: 4" & 6" Weight: 32 oz. Length: 9.6" overall Stocks: Checkered walnut Sight: Blade front, fixed rear Features: Recreation of the Luger Pistol in Stainless steel. Chamber loaded indicator. Introduced 1994 by Stoager Industries. Price: 4" or 6" Navy Model.....$720.00 w/matte black finish....$798.00 I had a .22 Luger clone several years ago I bought for $125. It was a comfortable gun but lacked adjustable(of any find) sights. It shot way right with no way to drift the sights. I guess I could have turned the barrel but......
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 1:48:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/9/2001 1:47:59 AM EDT by Janus]
I came across this one over at gunsamerica.com. It can be yours for the low low price of $189,000. [img]www.gunsamerica.com/upload/976048923.gif[/img] NATIONAL SOCIALIST PRESENTATION LUGER cal. 9mm Parabellum DWM manufacture. Nickel plated, one of the rarest Lugers in existence with original shoulder holster and complete Documentation of Authenticity.
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 3:42:08 AM EDT
M4 - Lugers make a neato sidearm, were not accepted for US service due to reliability problems. I want one too, just be aware that there are more reliable pistols available. Prices at gunshows $450 & up.
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 3:58:14 AM EDT
Buy a Ruger Standard Mark 2 instead.
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 5:52:04 AM EDT
I have one. The Mitchell Arms stainless steel "american eagle" version. this is a copy of the 1907 US Army trial luger. Only it is in 9mm not .45 I picked it up for $400 used from a state trooper. he never fired it and he needed cash so i took it off his hands. You NEED to use 124grn ammo, it misfeeds ALOT with less. Mine has been to the shop (Aimco in Houston) several times. they fixed it all under warrenty. now with the correct ammo. its a smooth shooter. I like taking it out to the range. always draws a small crowd because its silver and looks different. If you really like reading about Lugers. pick up "the luger story" by John Walter. great history and information.
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 9:54:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By M4: "Then the History Channel got it wrong.". So, What else is new?
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 11:00:53 AM EDT
I thought that artillery model luger with the holster/shoulder stock and drum mag was neat. I have a lugar 10/22 and a toris .38 myself.
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 4:48:20 PM EDT
Got to get yourself a Luger M4. They are great guns. The machining they did to make these is awesome. It fits your hand like a glove. Best natural pointing handgun I've ever held - like pointing your finger. Look for one with all matching parts. Last two numbers of the four digit serial number are stamped various places, like the toggle likes, trigger plate cover, safety, etc. If parts match, then the gun is original. You'll almost never find a matching numbered mag, and if you do, the price will be much higher. BTW, the real serial number, stamped on the frame below the barrel, has a letter after the four digits. When doing the paperwork make sure that the letter is included to avoid potential problems should the gun ever be run through NCIC and come up as stolen because the letter was not included on your paperwork. There are many "1234" S/N Lugers manufactured in say 1918, and if you don't have the exact s/n on your bill of sale, who's to say that gun is really yours or one stolen elsewhere? By all means get one and enjoy! They are fun to shoot.
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 6:38:39 PM EDT
All i know that if you own a .45 one you are damn lucky.
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 6:54:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/9/2001 7:00:52 PM EDT by waltere]
Yesterday at a show I came across a nickle plated P-08 with original mag, all same matching part numbers, and original holster with loading tool. It had a very very old nickle job. The guy was asking $450.00 for all. If he's there next month I'm going to have to pick it up. Several halls away, a Lugar collector was selling original holsters for $190.00. I almost bought the pistol then and there... now I'm beginning to think that I may have REALLY F**KED UP[>Q]
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 7:11:47 PM EDT
All i know that if you own a .45 one you are damn lucky
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Yeah, only 1 (original}known to be in existence Of course, that guy they had at the end of the TOTG show on the Luger who was hand re-creating them for 10K a pop was turning out some really tasty looking knock offs that I wouldn't be ashamed to own. Now, if only I had a spare 10K...oops, Uncle just snatched that. I hate tax season. Makes me all pissed off....
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 7:22:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/9/2001 7:23:58 PM EDT by waltere]
Saw a photo a couple of months ago of a .45 type that the Chinese had produced. So... if ya REALLY want one just book a trip. Even heard where they'll even escort you in on a landing! [>Q]
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 8:59:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/9/2001 9:03:35 PM EDT by jadams951]
I have got to hold one of the origingal .45 Luger's. It was sweet and in absolute mint condition. It was so pretty. A bud of mine that works at a top notch gun shop took me in the back one day and showed it to me. As I understand the origingal Luger in .45 was made back in the early 1900's. I heard from one guy on the firing line.com and he said that Luger's website said that only 3 or 6(can't remember which number) were made for testing for the US GOVT back in early 1900's to replace the .38 revolver as the issue sidearm.
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 9:12:09 PM EDT
One COULD get a Ruger KMK-4, the stainless steel 4.75" tapered bbl. model and $9500.00 worth of .22LR and shoot until Hell freezes over, couldn't one?
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 9:13:54 PM EDT
OH!, you said "LOOger" !!! Sorry, I didn't hear you correctly!
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 9:33:11 PM EDT
there where 2 original 45 lugers i thought but after the heavly stress test the first one was realy shot to hell
Link Posted: 4/9/2001 10:03:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cyrax777: there where 2 original 45 lugers i thought but after the heavly stress test the first one was realy shot to hell
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That is correct, and now there is ONLY one .45 Luger.
Link Posted: 4/10/2001 8:51:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By jadams951: I have got to hold one of the origingal .45 Luger's. It was sweet and in absolute mint condition. It was so pretty. A bud of mine that works at a top notch gun shop took me in the back one day and showed it to me. As I understand the origingal Luger in .45 was made back in the early 1900's. I heard from one guy on the firing line.com and he said that Luger's website said that only 3 or 6(can't remember which number) were made for testing for the US GOVT back in early 1900's to replace the .38 revolver as the issue sidearm.
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There were only two .45 Lugers made. One was destroyed after testing and the other has been in a private collection.
Link Posted: 4/10/2001 12:24:26 PM EDT
Well damn it I don't know what to believe. Wish I would have paid more attention to that gun to find out if it was the real thing or not. Oh well, I do know it was a Luger in .45 in absolute mint condition and I was told it came from a private collection. It wasn't sitting on the shelf case with a price tag on it. It was in the back in some huge room safe with all kind of ancient looking firearms. I trust my bud pretty well though as he couldn't tell a lie if his life depended on it.
Link Posted: 4/11/2001 6:45:10 PM EDT
I bought mine, G date, 9mm and matching numbers, about 10 years ago from a co-workers mother. Apparently her husband had brought it back from the war. When I went to look at it she told me that it was missing a "part" and that was all she knew about it. As it turned out the missing "part" was the magazine and it was in the holster. $150 dollars later it was mine along with the original Nazi marked holster and original take down tool. Also got a stainless steel Ruger Super Single Six for $100. These are the prices she was asking and I new nothing about Lugers.
Link Posted: 4/11/2001 7:34:53 PM EDT
$150??? Shame on you taking advantage of an old widow like that.....[;)]
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