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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:15:31 PM
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INSKEEP: You expressed concern at one time about socialism. Do you think that this is socialism? MACKEY: Well, it depends on our definitions, here. Technically speaking, it's more like fascism. Socialism is where that government owns the means of production. In fascism, the government doesn't own the means of production, but they do control it. And that's what's happening with the health care program and with these reforms. So I'd say the system's becoming more fascist, or corporatism. INSKEEP: Corporatism. Isn't, though, a little like a building code, though? The government sets standards, and companies that want to do business need to meet those standards. Where does that analogy fall short? MACKEY: It falls short because if the government's going to tell Whole Foods Market exactly what our health care plan has to look like or it doesn't qualify, then we don't really - no longer have an opportunity to customize our plan for our team member's needs. We can no longer be flexible. We're basically just carrying out the government's orders. INSKEEP: Suppose the president picked up the phone and called you up and said, look, I'm not going to repeal this health care law. It's passed the Supreme Court. I've won reelection. I'm not going to repeal it, but I'm willing to look at changes to it that will make it better. Is there one thing that you would suggest that the president do to take this law that you dislike and make it at least a little better? MACKEY: Well, that's good question. I would say everything that rolls back the bureaucrats telling you exactly how it must be would be positive. The government shouldn't tell everybody how the insurance must be or how the doctors must treat people. Instead, if the government wants to provide a safety net for our poor people who can't afford insurance to buy insurance, then they should provide that safety net. I don't object to that. That's fine. It's just these fascist directives that the government's handing down about how it will be and how corporations must do it that I object to. And I think it's going to raise costs, and it's not going to be a good thing on balance. |
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lokifox
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:16:38 PM
If there was one here I would shop there.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:18:35 PM
Wait, the CEO of whole foods is conservative?
My mind has been blown.  |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:19:37 PM
I recently got the most amazing bacon at Whole Foods, and now here's a reason to buy more
Have I mentioned that just looking at the meat counter puts me in a kind of trance because it's so amazing?  |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:21:27 PM
Originally Posted By odiedodi:
Wait, the CEO of whole foods is conservative? My mind has been blown. Ditto. |
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leatherface_y2k
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:22:22 PM
This is the same guy who seriously wanted the chain to stop selling cakes and pies because Americans are already too fat. The shareholders had to slap him down on that one.
So yeah, he's all about "choices"... |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:23:55 PM
Despite how it's used pejoratively in common parlance, fascism has a fairly narrow definition in the political theory world. Diagnosticly speaking, fascism entails more characteristics than the definition he's using, many of which Obama and his regime doesnt posses. Obama's vision for the US, as fucking awful as it is, would be better labeled as something akin to authoritarian democratic socialism that incorporates a great deal of cronyism and oligarchical tyranny.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:25:25 PM
It's going to financially hurt the bottom line of Whole Foods and that is what he cares about.
What he is saying is correct though. |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:27:16 PM
Originally Posted By leatherface_y2k:
This is the same guy who seriously wanted the chain to stop selling cakes and pies because Americans are already too fat. The shareholders had to slap him down on that one. So yeah, he's all about "choices"... At least he treats the employees better than other retailers. |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:27:34 PM
Obamacare was basically a giveaway to select insurance companies in exchange for pre-existing conditions coverage. When a corporate entity and the state colloborate on such an "endeavor", it is most undoubtedly fascism.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:27:55 PM
Originally Posted By odiedodi:
Wait, the CEO of whole foods is conservative? My mind has been blown. Whole Foods is relatively pricey. The FSA sure as hell dont shop there; people with decent jobs and disposable income do. |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:28:10 PM
I think he's a bit more libertarian than anything....
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:28:19 PM
Listened to that interview this morning....very good.
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leatherface_y2k
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:29:01 PM
Originally Posted By odiedodi:
Originally Posted By leatherface_y2k:
This is the same guy who seriously wanted the chain to stop selling cakes and pies because Americans are already too fat. The shareholders had to slap him down on that one. So yeah, he's all about "choices"... At least he treats the employees better than other retailers. That is true. A job at Whole Foods is a real job with real benefits. I know a couple of people who've worked there and they loved it. |
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Isenhelm
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:29:49 PM
Originally Posted By leatherface_y2k: This is the same guy who seriously wanted the chain to stop selling cakes and pies because Americans are already too fat. The shareholders had to slap him down on that one. So yeah, he's all about "choices"... It is his business, if that is the type of business model he wants what is the problem? maybe selling shit that make you fat is not the image he was after with "Whole Foods".... Its not a problem until he says he wants other people to not sell pies and wants the gov to ban them. |
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Max_Power
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:30:44 PM
Originally Posted By odiedodi: Wait, the CEO of whole foods is conservative? My mind has been blown. Just imagine how all the hippies are going to feel.
There's probably a "boycott whole foods" thread on DU now. |
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j_dock2
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:31:13 PM
Whole Foods is headquartered in Austin Texas. And the flagship store is niiiiice. But traffic to and from there sucks.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:31:41 PM
Originally Posted By odiedodi:
Wait, the CEO of whole foods is conservative? My mind has been blown. Pretty sure hes Libertarian |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:32:42 PM
Originally Posted By pivoproseem:
I think he's a bit more libertarian than anything.... This. It is a very employee/community oriented business. There was a kerfuffle a couple years back because a union wanted into the stores and the employees and management outright refused. They are actually successful at a lot of things that "progressives" aspire to, but do so voluntarily instead of demanding it be forced by government at gunpoint. |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:33:12 PM
Very good. All who agree should email the company and let them know we agree.
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retgarr
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:33:35 PM
Originally Posted By odiedodi:
Wait, the CEO of whole foods is conservative? My mind has been blown. Pretty much a hard Libertarian. When there was that brouhaha about Starbucks allowing guns and people were contacting retailers to get them to prohibit guns, the hippies naturally asked that Whole Foods do so. He gave a flat "No". |
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VA-gunnut
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:33:44 PM
The comments are hysterical.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:33:45 PM
I shop there for all my food. THe meat is much better than other supermarkets in the Indy area.
Down side is all the hippies, but they seem content to stay to themselves when they are gathering their nuts and berries. |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:35:18 PM
Does this guy know where his bread is buttered? It's like the CEO of ben and jerry's saying he is supporting the development of a Marijuana herbicide.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:35:58 PM
Oh man that is priceless.
My girlfriend is vegan so I shop at WF at least once a week. Great staff, great food, a little pricey, but DEFINITELY not pro-2A. One asked me about the clear glasses around my neck once. Told him I'd just come from shooting, and he finished the checkout in silence. |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:36:41 PM
To think all the high flyin hipster fancies shopped at that place
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:38:04 PM
Originally Posted By shaggy:
Originally Posted By odiedodi:
Wait, the CEO of whole foods is conservative? My mind has been blown. Whole Foods is relatively pricey. The FSA sure as hell dont shop there; people with decent jobs and disposable income do. Lots of hot women shop there too |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:38:53 PM
Originally Posted By dinosaur206:
Oh man that is priceless. My girlfriend is vegan so I shop at WF at least once a week. Great staff, great food, a little pricey, but DEFINITELY not pro-2A. One asked me about the clear glasses around my neck once. Told him I'd just come from shooting, and he finished the checkout in silence. A guy running the register doesn't exactly mean the company's management isn't pro-2A. Or rather, not anti-2A. |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:39:21 PM
Originally Posted By dinosaur206:
One asked me about the clear glasses around my neck once. Told him I'd just come from shooting, and he finished the checkout in silence. You've never worked retail have you? It's not like management forces us to believe what they want us to. Half of my coworkers hate guns and the other half are tacti-tards. You just got stuck with a shitty cashier. That's not representative of every whole foods employee. |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:40:21 PM
Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:
Listened to that interview this morning....very good. +1 It was fucking awesome and epic. |
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Razoreye
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:41:04 PM
[Last Edit: 1/17/2013 9:41:32 PM by Razoreye]
He doesn't want the safety net forced on him because it hurts his bottom line. Yet he's okay with the government mandating one, just not to corporations. How big of him. Fascism is still fascism.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:42:28 PM
You'd be surprised how many conservatives listen to NPR. Their guests, however, often seem like they would be more at home on The Benny HilShow.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:45:01 PM
Originally Posted By leatherface_y2k:
This is the same guy who seriously wanted the chain to stop selling cakes and pies because Americans are already too fat. The shareholders had to slap him down on that one. So yeah, he's all about "choices"... I'm fine with that. His store. Free markets and all that . . . |
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RED_5
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:50:29 PM
[Last Edit: 1/17/2013 9:51:10 PM by RED_5]
fucking butthurt libtards shop there, and think it is "their store"
fuck 'em and FBO FJB FFSA FDF ..etc.. eta: I shop there as well, I'm sure a good number of 'non-libtards' shop there as well I was just there today. |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:54:36 PM
I guess I could put up with the stinky hippies to get some of their meat. It looks really good.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:58:16 PM
Few things make me happier than reading the butt hurt posting of a liberal who is crying after being slapped around by reality
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:02:47 PM
They have an awesome meat section
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:03:59 PM
By far the best place to shop. After hearing that I like it even more.
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armoredsaint
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:05:21 PM
all the hipsters are freaking out probably
love our local whole foods, reason why it's call whole paycheck |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:05:33 PM
I bought stock in Whole Foods when it was still a little shop in Austin, Tx. I'm glad to hear the CEO is a good man.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:07:29 PM
Originally Posted By thatguywiththeak:
Despite how it's used pejoratively in common parlance, fascism has a fairly narrow definition in the political theory world. Diagnosticly speaking, fascism entails more characteristics than the definition he's using, many of which Obama and his regime doesnt posses. Obama's vision for the US, as fucking awful as it is, would be better labeled as something akin to authoritarian democratic socialism that incorporates a great deal of cronyism and oligarchical tyranny. Needs more MSPaint. Go. |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:08:05 PM
Originally Posted By NilDesperandum:
I bought stock in Whole Foods when it was still a little shop in Austin, Tx. I'm glad to hear the CEO is a good man. Thanks for that, rich boy. |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:08:28 PM
[Last Edit: 1/17/2013 10:09:17 PM by gym007]
DU is boycotting Whole Foods....they're mad http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2201466 |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:09:00 PM
Didn't he write a letter to Obama prior to the health care bill that went viral?
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:09:32 PM
Obama the Fascist. I like it, and "liberal" heads will explode.
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DanTSX
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:10:02 PM
Originally Posted By lokifox:
If there was one here I would shop there. I do. It is a chick magnet |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:10:40 PM
Originally Posted By Max_Power:
Originally Posted By odiedodi:
Wait, the CEO of whole foods is conservative? My mind has been blown. Just imagine how all the hippies are going to feel. There's probably a "boycott whole foods" thread on DU now. It makes sense. Conservatives are smart enough to master and harness a market full of people that just think they are smarter than everyone else. |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:11:01 PM
Originally Posted By fxntime:
It's going to financially hurt the bottom line of Whole Foods and that is what he cares about. Yep. Don't think for a second he's conservative. He's worried about $$ |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:12:29 PM
Originally Posted By PirateNinja:
I recently got the most amazing bacon at Whole Foods, and now here's a reason to buy more Have I mentioned that just looking at the meat counter puts me in a kind of trance because it's so amazing? Dearborn Sausage kicks Whole Food's ass when it comes to pork products... Especially BACON! |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:16:20 PM
Originally Posted By gym007:
Originally Posted By shaggy:
Originally Posted By odiedodi:
Wait, the CEO of whole foods is conservative? My mind has been blown. Whole Foods is relatively pricey. The FSA sure as hell dont shop there; people with decent jobs and disposable income do. Lots of hot women shop there too Check to see if they shave their legs. |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:19:43 PM
Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
The comments are hysterical. |
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