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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:44:31 PM EDT
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I don't agree with yanking a permit due to saying stupid things that are clearly hyperbole, but at the same time, our friend Yeager should definitely learn when the STFU. What is that saying...discretion is the better part of valor (or stupidity and bravery are not the same thing). Can we stop talking about this nut? I had an ex-girlfriend that was crazy like this and I just don't need the reminders. Bald and bug-eyed? Buck Angel. 
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:44:36 PM EDT
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Okay, seriously you all need to think. Anyone that posted "molon labe" or "cold dead hands" on the Internet can have your permits yanked. Merely for exercising your 1st A. Enough with the "oh, he dumb" type comments and wake the fuck up. That's the heart of the matter. He said something a lot of people don't like. It's not popular. Yet it was not illegal. Is that not the EXACT speech the First Amendment seeks to protect? And here we are, saying "Well, that's what you get." WHAT. THE. FUCK. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:44:39 PM EDT
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Would this be "one more inch?"
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:45:12 PM EDT
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I don't think what he did is very smart. If they did yank his permit as punishment for what he said I would like to know what kind of punishment these guys received: Donald Kaul called for the death of gun owners http://texasgopvote.com/sites/default/files/Don%20Kaul%20-%20Cold%20Dead%20Fingers2.jpg David Gregory clearly broke a DC law possessing a 30 round magazine Banana Clip http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/David-Gregory-magazine1-620x345.jpeg |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:45:15 PM EDT
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Dude didn't do anything wrong.
I'm in for his defense fund. Oh, and nice going arfcom, blaming the victim when he's stripped of his 2nd amendment rights. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:45:16 PM EDT
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Yeager be actin' all cray. 
My dog is looking at me like WTF.... my sides hurt... thanks.. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:45:41 PM EDT
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Tenn. also took away the preppers stuff that appeared on doomsday preppers BAD NEIGHBOR STATE, BAD LINK? http://offgridsurvival.com/doomsdayprepperdeclaredmentaldefective/ |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:45:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:45:52 PM EDT
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I'd defend him. 
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:46:21 PM EDT
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Well this certainly is an interesting development.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:46:29 PM EDT
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First amendment and all that. I'll donate to his legal fund to fight this. Though he lacks tact I do not believe what he said falls outside of the right of free speach. Why not take that same money and funnel it to the NRA? This guy's harming our cause, not helping. I wouldn't give him a dime. I'm all for defending rights. But let's get our priorities straight. The 2A is far more important that Yeager's personal rights, which through his own actions he brought to jeapordy. We've gained more in court fights than via political lobbying recently. So you think that a court case involving Yeager and his revoked permit would be used by the media to cast gun owners in a postive light? No. I think him losing in local court and winning in appeals court would establish case law making it impossible for the state to deny rights under the 2nd for exercising the first. We lost the media fight years ago. We've been winning in the courts. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:46:41 PM EDT
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That isn't tyrannical and doesn't lend credibility to Yeager's sentiments at all.
Careful what you say... It may be you they come after next. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:46:48 PM EDT
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what an idiot I agree. People should not be allowed to speak out like that. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:48:27 PM EDT
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Oh, and nice going arfcom, blaming the victim when he's stripped of his 2nd amendment rights. His rant provided valuable ammunitiion to the antis in the middle of a legal fight we need to win. You're asking me to care for the 2A rights of someone who's helping the goverment take mine away. 
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:48:29 PM EDT
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I'd defend him. I'd take his $ too  .....why not stick with a level headed gun owner that isn't talking about starting to kill people on youtube.....yeah it sounds that bad.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:49:08 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Okay, seriously you all need to think. Anyone that posted "molon labe" or "cold dead hands" on the Internet can have your permits yanked. Merely for exercising your 1st A. Enough with the "oh, he dumb" type comments and wake the fuck up. That's the heart of the matter. He said something a lot of people don't like. It's not popular. Yet it was not illegal. Is that not the EXACT speech the First Amendment seeks to protect? And here we are, saying "Well, that's what you get." WHAT. THE. FUCK. If the time comes and, God forbid, you are ever forced to defend the Constitution, remember this. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:49:34 PM EDT
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Oh, and nice going arfcom, blaming the victim when he's stripped of his 2nd amendment rights. His rant provided valuable ammunitiion to the antis in the middle of a legal fight we need to win. You're asking me to care for the 2A rights of someone who's helping the goverment take mine away.
So don't exercise your 1st, or you'll lose your 2nd which is to defend the 1st?
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:49:43 PM EDT
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Okay, seriously you all need to think. Anyone that posted "molon labe" or "cold dead hands" on the Internet can have your permits yanked. Merely for exercising your 1st A. Enough with the "oh, he dumb" type comments and wake the fuck up. That's the heart of the matter. He said something a lot of people don't like. It's not popular. Yet it was not illegal. Is that not the EXACT speech the First Amendment seeks to protect? And here we are, saying "Well, that's what you get." WHAT. THE. FUCK. We can rally around him, contribute to his legal fund and try to prevent the state from doing this to others or we can post "haha" and "dumbass" pics. I dont always agree with the cases my local gun rights groups take on. Some of the defendents are shady, but you need standing to challange a bad law and its the shady guys that end up with standing. so we fight for their rights even if we dont much like the guy who brought the issue to a court fight. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:49:49 PM EDT
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Yeagar is an idiot, that being said. This is 100% bullshit, I hope he sue's the shit out of the state.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:49:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:50:04 PM EDT
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I'd defend him. He said in his video yesterday he didn't need any legal advice... guess he was wrong... 
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:50:25 PM EDT
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Okay, seriously you all need to think. Anyone that posted "molon labe" or "cold dead hands" on the Internet can have your permits yanked. Merely for exercising your 1st A. Enough with the "oh, he dumb" type comments and wake the fuck up. That's the heart of the matter. He said something a lot of people don't like. It's not popular. Yet it was not illegal. Is that not the EXACT speech the First Amendment seeks to protect? And here we are, saying "Well, that's what you get." WHAT. THE. FUCK. Yeager's comments were unwise and childish in my opinion. That does not, in any way, shape or form, legitimize denying him his right to keep and bear arms. Quoted:
Dude didn't do anything wrong. I'm in for his defense fund. Oh, and nice going arfcom, blaming the victim when he's stripped of his 2nd amendment rights. Right there with you. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:50:43 PM EDT
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Feel good bull shite.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:50:59 PM EDT
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They suspended his CPL for expressing his first amendment rights? Hoooo boy... Yep, but in DC... "...our recognition that the intent of the temporary possession and short display of the magazine was to promote the First Amendment purpose of informing an ongoing public debate about firearms policy in the United States, especially while this subject was foremost in the minds of the public following the previously mentioned events in Connecticut and the President’s speech to the nation about them." |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:51:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:51:41 PM EDT
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Well if he needs a new job maybe he can take up pro wrestling and maybe get some tips from Hulk Hogan,cause that's what he reminds me of when he talks.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:52:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:52:05 PM EDT
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Oh, and nice going arfcom, blaming the victim when he's stripped of his 2nd amendment rights. His rant provided valuable ammunitiion to the antis in the middle of a legal fight we need to win. You're asking me to care for the 2A rights of someone who's helping the goverment take mine away.
So don't exercise your 1st, or you'll lose your 2nd which is to defend the 1st? Whatever man. You go ahead & chuck money at someone who does more harm than good to our cause. Your call. My priorites differ. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:52:13 PM EDT
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Oh, and nice going arfcom, blaming the victim when he's stripped of his 2nd amendment rights. His rant provided valuable ammunitiion to the antis in the middle of a legal fight we need to win. You're asking me to care for the 2A rights of someone who's helping the goverment take mine away.
The government CANNOT take your 2A rights away. You can surrender your right if you choose.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:52:30 PM EDT
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It would be a tough court case. It looks like the state revoked his permit not as a criminal punishment for an offense, but because he displayed "material likelihood of risk of harm to the public". His Youtube vids alone (duel challenging, back breaking, this latest fiasco) would be pretty easy to sell to a jury as a pattern of behavior that would indicate that he does indeed pose that risk.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:52:33 PM EDT
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Dude didn't do anything wrong. I'm in for his defense fund. Oh, and nice going arfcom, blaming the victim when he's stripped of his 2nd amendment rights. We have plenty here who think that if you just sit still, be good little boys and girls and don't make a peep, the big bad government will leave them alone.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:52:35 PM EDT
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I'd defend him. He said in his video yesterday he didn't need any legal advice... guess he was wrong... Actually what he said was , he didn't need any legal advice from people who aren't lawyers. In which case I would agree with him.. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:52:47 PM EDT
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This is exactly why carry permits are bullshit. It can be taken at the whim of a government official. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:53:54 PM EDT
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what an idiot ^^^ |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:54:03 PM EDT
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I don't think what he did is very smart. If they did yank his permit as punishment for what he said I would like to know what kind of punishment these guys received: Donald Kaul called for the death of gun owners http://texasgopvote.com/sites/default/files/Don%20Kaul%20-%20Cold%20Dead%20Fingers2.jpg David Gregory clearly broke a DC law possessing a 30 round magazine http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/David-Gregory-magazine1-620x345.jpeg The First Amendment should be rewritten as "The right of the people to agree with the politicians shall not be infringed"
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:54:20 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: This is exactly why carry permits are bullshit. It can be taken at the whim of a government official This is bullshit of the highest order. He was not convicted of anything, and at the stroke of a pen, there goes his bearing arms part of the 2A. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:54:33 PM EDT
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I'd defend him. I'll figure out a way to pay for an hour of your time if you take up his defense. I think what he said was overboard and counterproductive, but that should not mean he can't say it. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:54:54 PM EDT
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Are criminal charges going to probably follow?
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:55:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I'd defend him. I'll figure out a way to pay for an hour of your time if you take up his defense. I think what he said was overboard and counterproductive, but that should not mean he can't say it. I'll make that pledge as well. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:55:32 PM EDT
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I'm guessing his comments would be protected by the First Amendment and wouldn't fall into the incitement or fighting words exceptions to free speech. The mere advocacy of violent action against the government is protected by the First Amendment. Brandenburg v. Ohio. "Where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action," then the advocacy loses its First Amendment protection. Yeager's comments aren't really the advocacy of imminent (meaning right now) lawless action, nor does it seem that his comments are likely to incite anyone to imminent lawless action. At least that is what my argument would be if I were his attorney trying to get his permit back.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:56:12 PM EDT
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Oh, and nice going arfcom, blaming the victim when he's stripped of his 2nd amendment rights. His rant provided valuable ammunitiion to the antis in the middle of a legal fight we need to win. You're asking me to care for the 2A rights of someone who's helping the goverment take mine away.
This. It's not the time to be threatening to "shoot people". It's stupid and careless. While the other side is calling for the death of gun owners, and the NRA, and NRA president, we have to be better than that. I saw a video on here earlier where the line in the sand was when Jack Booted thugs were kicking down doors and going onto full confiscation. That's probably a safer time to talk about lines in the sand then this past Monday. I want Yeager to be able have 2nd Amendment rights, he was just stupid. Stupid isn't a crime but his timing sure sucks. He has nobody to blame but himself. You can't threaten to start shooting people when you are pissed off mad. And he started the video saying he was mad A pissed off person with guns threatening to shoot people? It doesn't look good....... He may need legal advice he said he didn't need after all |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:56:49 PM EDT
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Not the smartest move ever made. But considering the amount of provocation is is some what reasonable. There are a lot of enemies of this country who are gleefully discussing tearing up the Constitution, the founders clearly stated that when this sort of thing goes forward it is time to fight back with violence.
I don't view his statement any more threatening than if he said he would kill any foreign soldier who invaded this country. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:57:20 PM EDT
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Any of you with a "Molon Labe" tagline or a "Time to hoist the flag and start slitting throats" type of avatar or sigline, you should either change it now or stand with Yeager.
Because you said the exact same thing. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:57:21 PM EDT
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We can rally around him, contribute to his legal fund and try to prevent the state from doing this to others or we can post "haha" and "dumbass" pics. Okay, I choose "dumbass" pics, but only because Yeager-meister-meisterYeager so richly deserves them! 
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:57:35 PM EDT
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not sure if a dupe.. but here is an interview from our local station:
http://www.wsmv.com/story/20559778/tn-firearms-instructor-gains-attention-from-youtube?clienttype=generic&mobilecgbypass |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:57:46 PM EDT
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I don't think what he did is very smart. If they did yank his permit as punishment for what he said I would like to know what kind of punishment these guys received: Donald Kaul called for the death of gun owners http://texasgopvote.com/sites/default/files/Don%20Kaul%20-%20Cold%20Dead%20Fingers2.jpg David Gregory clearly broke a DC law possessing a 30 round magazine http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/David-Gregory-magazine1-620x345.jpeg Exactly. Hypocrisy is a big deal to me. A really big deal. Yeager shouldn't have said exactly what he said, but the hypocrisy of his situation is galling. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:57:53 PM EDT
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Idiot.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:57:59 PM EDT
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David Gregory actually committed a crime.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:58:01 PM EDT
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I'd defend him.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:58:41 PM EDT
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Only a matter of time before "they" dig up some dirt on him and he is lead away in handcuffs.
He as a fucking dipshit for this, and brought it on himself, but i still think its bullshit that dems can get aay with saying this same type of shit on national Television, een ave mags in a ban state on national TV, and nothing happens. Be smart people. |
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