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Posted: 1/2/2013 9:23:09 AM
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Originally Posted By pighelmet:
Just wait until you refi your house or get a new mortgage.


Tell me more....are these now taxable events and how do you pay?


Yes, this has my attention.



Same here. I just got ours done last month....Thank goodness.




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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:01:59 AM
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Originally Posted By 583:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By mongo001:
To reiterate - the medical excise tax total - $11.97 - is 2.3% of the entire receipt - $520.82. That means EVERY item purchased at Cabelas today fell under the tax.

Good!

I hope he Cloward-Piven's the fuck out of this country until it all collapses into one big mass of rioting FSA idiots blaming the Republicans for not raping the rich enough.

Bring it all down man.




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Just to clarify...does FSA stand for "FREE SH!T AMERICANS"?

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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:03:27 AM
Originally Posted By BigDozer66:
Originally Posted By 1911SFOREVER:

Originally Posted By 583:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By mongo001:
To reiterate - the medical excise tax total - $11.97 - is 2.3% of the entire receipt - $520.82. That means EVERY item purchased at Cabelas today fell under the tax.

Good!

I hope he Cloward-Piven's the fuck out of this country until it all collapses into one big mass of rioting FSA idiots blaming the Republicans for not raping the rich enough.

Bring it all down man.




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I, for one, salute our new FSA overlords!


Just to clarify...does FSA stand for "FREE SH!T AMERICANS"?

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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:23:53 AM
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No I think Cabela's is collecting a tax it does not need to once again screwing their customers. You think all those EBR's they pulled were returned for credit or scalped to wholesalers? Cabela's loves screwing people. I just did a dummy order on Cabelas.com and they did not charge the tax on a Lyman sonic brass cleaner. So rather than start a long thread why not call the store manager?

Originally Posted By mongo001:
Originally Posted By spin-drift:
I don't think some of you are understanding that this is a gov't imposed tax, not a Cabela's tax.

Medical Device Excise Tax (Obamacare)



I understand it is not Cabelas.

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I applaud their creative method of recovering that money. I'd like to see EVERYONE do the same. Eventually, people will wake up and realize that the consumer is ultimately going to pay for Obama Care...not the "wealthy".
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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:54:44 AM
This excise tax is revenue based!!??

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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:06:16 AM
Free health care for everyone.

How else do you expect free health care if we don't tax someone for it?

We are in for a wild ride fella's.


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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:06:57 AM
So how does the ultrasonic cleaner work on cases?
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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:22:36 AM
Originally Posted By mongo001:
So my wife went shopping for me today at the local Cabelas. I'm on 12s forever and can't get there. We had an employee pricing coupon and had a short list of non firearm things we wanted.

Short list:

3 pair of hiker socks
2 safe door pocket organizers
1 pair female boots
1 female jacket
1 female workout pant
1 Lyman sonic brass cleaner

Now for the WTF part

There's an $11.97 mecical excise tax on something or everything in that list.

Is this Obamacare shit?????? What on that list is a "medical device"????


Your wife bought all these items for you? You should get in on the cheap ammo thread!
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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:25:37 AM
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Originally Posted By mongo001:
I'm on 12s forever and can't get there.



http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxz7mgXVIL1qgvt2zo1_500.jpg


The gentleman in question is gainfully employed and works long hours thus he is unable to attend shopping expeditions with his spouse.


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Originally Posted By Burley:
So how does the ultrasonic cleaner work on cases?


I'll give it a go when I get a chance. Looks like I have to take a four day weekend. We have federally mandated workhour limits and I'm about to exceed the limit, so I get two days off paid + the weekend. Only time in my life where I think the gov't got something right.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:57:34 AM
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It is a systemic mistake on Cabela's part.

A "medical device" subject to the 2.3% tax has to be a device that is registered with the FDA through 510k or PMA submission. 510k and PMA are sort of a pre market regulatory approval (510k=Class I and II deivces PMA=Class III devices) granted by the FDA to allow a med device company to sell their product on the market in the US. None of the items listed on the OP's receipt are considered medical device's as per the FDA and are not registered as medical devices.


***Source-I work for a contract medical device manufacturer and spent a large portion of Dec 2012 registering and listing all devices that we make on the FDA's website.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 12:04:38 PM
Originally Posted By RDak:
This excise tax is revenue based!!??



That's what we've been screaming for 2 years but no one seemed to understand this distinction between top and bottom line taxation. That 2.3% TOP line tax equates to 20%-40% bottom line taxation depending on the device.

In the end, consumers will pay more. Jobs have been eliminated and outsourced for the past year in response to this tax.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 12:51:26 PM
Originally Posted By dex357:
Free health care for everyone.

How else do you expect free health care if we don't tax someone for it?

We are in for a wild ride fella's.


Gas pedals stuck and the brakes just went out, see you at the bottom.


And the stupid fucking law doesn't actually provide healthcare, it just funds government agencies to make sure employers and individuals are maintaing a healthcare policy and fines them if they don't.

Unless I am wrong, nobody really gets "free healthcare" from the government under this whole cluster fuck.
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More profits for the government. Isn't that what always happen when someone asks the government to do something?

With so much of the populations popping pills, making their organs fail even faster, they knew soon they'll be turning a profit.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 1:21:01 PM

Originally Posted By ns66:
Originally Posted By mongo001:
The receipt total was $520.82. 2.3% of that is ................................. drum roll please ........................................... $11.97.



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The $20B tax was included in the Affordable Care Act that was signed into law in 2010. The amount is based on a 2.3% excise tax that will be levied on the total revenues of a company, regardless of whether a company generates a profit, starting in 2013. Many companies will owe more in taxes than they generate from their operations.






tax on revenue? never heard of this in the world, company with thin profit margin less than 2.3% will be wiped out? this is BS

NH has had one of these for a while.
The intent was to nail professional corps. that were paying high salaries to officers to minimize business profits and thus business profit tax.

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Posted: 1/2/2013 1:25:36 PM
What else doesn't make sense, items under $100 are supposed to be exempt.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 1:40:47 PM
Good example of how all new taxes are passed on to the consumers. Customers pay all business taxes through purchases. Unless you don't shop there.
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"We have to raise our prices in order to comply with and pay for Obamacare mandates."

"Won't that make are customers unhappy with us?"

"Yes, but they should be unhappy with Obama and the rest of his cronies not us."

"Hmm. Let's raise prices on everything 2.3%, but not add it to the price of the items we sell. We'll add it as a line item on each receipt so everyone will understand why we did it and who's to blame."

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Posted: 1/2/2013 1:55:05 PM
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I wonder if it's not the sonic brass cleaner, as it could be considered an ultrasound device.


LOL

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I just bought ammo and miscellaneous stuff at Cabelas this past Thursday. No extra tax was liste on either receipt.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 2:28:18 PM
Originally Posted By Gloftoe:
I just bought ammo and miscellaneous stuff at Cabelas this past Thursday. No extra tax was liste on either receipt.


Pre Jan 1?
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I wonder if it's not the sonic brass cleaner, as it could be considered an ultrasound device.


LOL

Ultrasonic ≠ Ultrasound


But to the guy in India inputing the code, it is the same.
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Edited title to reflect the likelihood that Cabelas is wrong in assessing this tax.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 2:30:03 PM
You and I have just been handed a tax that attributed to adding more free shit to the Free Shit Army.

THIS is what this country voted for.

Just wait until you sell your house, or transfer or cash in investment funds, etc.
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I'm really anxious to find out what anyone's Cabela's has to say about this.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 3:31:40 PM
Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By pighelmet:
Just wait until you refi your house or get a new mortgage.

No shit...thankfully I just closed on what I expect to be my last refi/mortgage for a looong time a few days before 2013.




What am I in store for?
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Posted: 1/2/2013 3:49:00 PM

Originally Posted By jchewie1:
Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By pighelmet:
Just wait until you refi your house or get a new mortgage.

No shit...thankfully I just closed on what I expect to be my last refi/mortgage for a looong time a few days before 2013.




What am I in store for?
3% of the purchase price goes to your neighborhood Obama phone user.

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3% of the purchase price goes to your neighborhood Obama phone user.

Dafuq... link?
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Posted: 1/2/2013 4:07:15 PM
You say your wife went shopping for YOU.

Please splain

1 pair female boots
1 female jacket
1 female workout pant
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You say your wife went shopping for YOU.

Please splain

1 pair female boots
1 female jacket
1 female workout pant


After 25 years+, I've learned if she's happy, everybody's happy.
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Originally Posted By SouthHoof:

Originally Posted By jchewie1:
Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By pighelmet:
Just wait until you refi your house or get a new mortgage.

No shit...thankfully I just closed on what I expect to be my last refi/mortgage for a looong time a few days before 2013.




What am I in store for?
3% of the purchase price goes to your neighborhood Obama phone user.



I thought primary residences were exempted, and then only 3% of profit, not purchase price.

Further googling research indicates:
...3.8% tax on the capital gains (unearned income) on real estate transactions over the existing $500,000 exemption for married couples ($250,000 for singles). Couples have to make more than $250,000 in adjusted gross income for the tax to apply to them (singles more than $200,000). And it isn't very common these days to find married couples in most parts of the nation making more than $250,000 a year, who then also made more than $500,000 in profits on their house sale. ...


Not that sale of real estate should be subject to a federal tax for medical care, but it doesn't appear to affect me this year.

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It appears that you made it into snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/medicaldevice.asp
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I purchased a few items the other day at Cabelas, and no tax was added. Of course Montana does not have sales tax either, but nothing like the OP had was on my receipt.

Items were purchased on 01/01/2013.
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i would like to burn the fuckheads that made up this fucking bullshit tax
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Posted: 1/2/2013 6:08:46 PM
Originally Posted By mongo001:
Originally Posted By Gloftoe:
I just bought ammo and miscellaneous stuff at Cabelas this past Thursday. No extra tax was liste on either receipt.


Pre Jan 1?


Good poit. No, it was on the 27th.
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Originally Posted By tesla120:
I want to see the receipt. No way can this be applied to any of these items.


been to the dundee cabelas twice since the new year and both receipts gave the medical excise tax line that equals 2.3% of the total purchase price.
hope everyone lists this on their receipts.

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will try to buy everything medical device wise from Canada or Mexico, Obama can shove the 2.3% up his fucking ass
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Picked up by Snoops, including the receipt image.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/medicaldevice.asp
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It appears that you made it into snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/medicaldevice.asp


Just an honest mistake. That made a really good point.

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Yup, got hit with the "medical excise tax" at Cabela's today. Cashier told me Obummercare in action. Interesting to see how this pans out...I agree it would be good to show the knee jerks where Obama's gonna get the money to pay for all their entitlements.


you need to go up to that cabelas and get your money back. I just got back from the Allen Cabelas getting $25.97 refunded to me on the Medical Excise Tax i was charged yesterday on my Sig Scorpion, ammo, magazine purchase. The cashier i talked to said it was a computer glitch. They owe the money back to you.
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was just at the Cabelas in hamburg pa. No extra tax there
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Originally Posted By flinch08:
Originally Posted By jtb33:
It appears that you made it into snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/medicaldevice.asp


Just an honest mistake. That made a really good point.








ETA: Fuck Snopes and their liberal agenda.

ETA: The link says that the receipt originates in TX. Wrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg.

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I'm still trying to figure out the meaning of this phrase.

Originally Posted By mongo001:
I'm on 12s forever and can't get there.




12 hour shifts...
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everything that you buy will have to go up about 12 percent to pay for obamacare


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Excise tax on Cabelas purchase.

While you are correct that Cabelas isn't supposed to be charging the excise tax, they, in fact, are charging the tax. Most aware customers are demanding, and getting a refund of the tax.

The second receipt is not from Texas. How do I know? It's my receipt and I don't live in Texas.

You should better validate your info before posting it online.

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Posted: 1/3/2013 12:35:33 AM
I experienced the same thing at a Cabela's store in Allen, Texas on 1-1-2013. After getting home, doing some research, and concluding that Cabela's made an error, I contacted the store and they refunded the Medical Excise Tax that was charged.

Please contact your Cabela's store manager and ask for a refund of the Medical Excise Tax charged. They will refund it.

Be sure and check all of your receipts at other stores to make sure that you are not taxed for this provision unless you are buying a qualifying medical device!
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No, I agree with some guys...its not a tax...its the ultimate butt screw with a big smile by tyrants upon the people...its for our own good they say...and as Barry clearly worded it...its redistribution of wealth...someone has to help the Muslim Brotherhood, Planned Parenthood...and as our parents and grand parents used to tell us as kids..."there are starving people in China!"
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