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Link Posted: 10/16/2012 8:25:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Dokgaebi:
Obama had four years to take away our guns, he proved that he's not after our guns.

Who knows what Romney will do if elected?
Hmmmmm.....

Just saying.




One person saying something stupid, then being corrected by several people, equals the whole thread being about defending Obama? Are you purposely trying to make yourself look silly?
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Link Posted: 10/16/2012 8:32:44 PM EST
Originally Posted By Dokgaebi:
Obama had four years to take away our guns, he proved that he's not after our guns.

Who knows what Romney will do if elected?
Hmmmmm.....

Just saying.


Romney isnt a liar. Thats what Im sayng. One of the big differences between these two candidates. We have had four years of Obama's lies, but trust me, when he says he is going to instigate an AWB, believe him.

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Link Posted: 10/16/2012 8:33:33 PM EST
Originally Posted By MyName1sMud:
Originally Posted By Dokgaebi:
Obama had four years to take away our guns, he proved that he's not after our guns.

Who knows what Romney will do if elected?
Hmmmmm.....

Just saying.


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Link Posted: 10/16/2012 8:43:08 PM EST
Originally Posted By arty6pd:
Originally Posted By Dokgaebi:
Obama had four years to take away our guns, he proved that he's not after our guns.

Who knows what Romney will do if elected?
Hmmmmm.....

Just saying.


Romney isnt a liar. Thats what Im sayng. One of the big differences between these two candidates. We have had four years of Obama's lies, but trust me, when he says he is going to instigate an AWB, believe him.


Please just think about the fact you just stated that a politician isn't a liar. You really believe that? REALLY?
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Link Posted: 10/16/2012 8:55:52 PM EST
Somebody needs to let this guy know:


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Link Posted: 10/16/2012 8:59:46 PM EST
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Obama knows that infringing on the 2nd draws fire, and he was squirming trying to get off the issue this debate.

It's not as if Romney wouldn't sign an AWB if it was passed. Unlike Obama, Romney could claim maverick status and bipartisanship from it, while Obama can only lose.

Right now, gun control through legislation is a purely ideological issue. Politicians will do that, but they won't do it without something further to gain; and that doesn't exist any more. It loses votes and costs funding, and it doesn't improve stats. Those few politicians who might genuinely care about a police state know it needs bread and circuses, and improvements in internal security tech are slowly making guns into bread and circuses. They will happily dole out gun rights if it can pull voters, so long as the base stays.

That's why Obama had to throw a bone to his base. Like Republicans on abortion; Obama knows he can't follow up, and deep down, so does his base. He has to say it anyway.

And that's why you can find the occasional gun-rights people voting for Obama (they carefully ignore his SC picks). It's the same way pro-choice people can vote Romney.

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Link Posted: 10/16/2012 9:13:25 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 4:08:53 AM EST
I am a CHRISTIAN, a CONSERVATIVE, and a REPUBLICAN... in exactly that order, and completely without apology.
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 5:56:04 AM EST
Some of you have apparently been in fantasy land for the last four years, where you imagined people all over Arfcom claim that Obama doesn't want to take our guns. The fact is that very, very few people say that around here. Most people who say there won't be new gun control legislation soon explain what they mean and it's not defending BHO.

Do any of you even follow the Fast and Furious thread? Anyone who has been paying attention to that knows BHO is not a friend of the 2A.

I'd like to see just one of you make a rational post about how new gun control laws are going to make it to Obama for his signature. And Obama riding in on a unicorn to change the world with executive orders does not count.

The reason I argue with you drama queens is that this web site tends to come up pretty high in Google searches. It makes us look like a bunch of nuts when people go all chicken little and clearly don't know the basic structure of our government.

I know you all mean well. And I would be a little more civil in these threads if I wasn't regularly called delusional, or whatever name, for trying to have a rational discussion.
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 5:57:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:
Come on back in and get your crow, nice and hot.

Nah, the few who really need some crow are still having a heapin' helpin' of denial in backpeddle gravy instead.


Please quote one single person changing their stance in this thread after the debate.
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 6:46:23 AM EST
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Some of you have apparently been in fantasy land for the last four years, where you imagined people all over Arfcom claim that Obama doesn't want to take our guns. The fact is that very, very few people say that around here. Most people who say there won't be new gun control legislation soon explain what they mean and it's not defending BHO.

Do any of you even follow the Fast and Furious thread? Anyone who has been paying attention to that knows BHO is not a friend of the 2A.

I'd like to see just one of you make a rational post about how new gun control laws are going to make it to Obama for his signature. And Obama riding in on a unicorn to change the world with executive orders does not count.

The reason I argue with you drama queens is that this web site tends to come up pretty high in Google searches. It makes us look like a bunch of nuts when people go all chicken little and clearly don't know the basic structure of our government.

I know you all mean well. And I would be a little more civil in these threads if I wasn't regularly called delusional, or whatever name, for trying to have a rational discussion.


If I do a search of the thousands of Romney threads where the Usual Suspects repeatedly say that he's going to magically ban guns, am I going to find multiple posts from you similar to your posts here?

Whether you like it or not, there are individuals here that have repeatedly written posts claiming Obama is not seeking an AWB.There are people reading the thread that are either too young to remember or were disinterested at the time to recall that he wanted an AWB prior to and after his election.

You've picked a very strange hill to die on.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 7:20:50 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:
Some of you have apparently been in fantasy land for the last four years, where you imagined people all over Arfcom claim that Obama doesn't want to take our guns. The fact is that very, very few people say that around here. Most people who say there won't be new gun control legislation soon explain what they mean and it's not defending BHO.

Do any of you even follow the Fast and Furious thread? Anyone who has been paying attention to that knows BHO is not a friend of the 2A.

I'd like to see just one of you make a rational post about how new gun control laws are going to make it to Obama for his signature. And Obama riding in on a unicorn to change the world with executive orders does not count.

The reason I argue with you drama queens is that this web site tends to come up pretty high in Google searches. It makes us look like a bunch of nuts when people go all chicken little and clearly don't know the basic structure of our government.

I know you all mean well. And I would be a little more civil in these threads if I wasn't regularly called delusional, or whatever name, for trying to have a rational discussion.


If I do a search of the thousands of Romney threads where the Usual Suspects repeatedly say that he's going to magically ban guns, am I going to find multiple posts from you similar to your posts here?

Whether you like it or not, there are individuals here that have repeatedly written posts claiming Obama is not seeking an AWB.There are people reading the thread that are either too young to remember or were disinterested at the time to recall that he wanted an AWB prior to and after his election.

You've picked a very strange hill to die on.


I jump into one of these occasionally. So, you would find my participation sporadic but my message consistent. Since I do only participate sporadically, maybe I've missed all these people defending BHO. Can you post a couple links?

When I do read one of these threads, what normally pulls me in are the statements about BHO being able to create new law on his own.

I think it's very strange that you consider attempting to inject logical thought, and reality, to be strange. You seem like a fairly reasonable guy so I'm not sure how you don't see the nutty statements made by so many people in these threads.
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 7:31:34 AM EST
Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:
Some of you have apparently been in fantasy land for the last four years, where you imagined people all over Arfcom claim that Obama doesn't want to take our guns. The fact is that very, very few people say that around here. Most people who say there won't be new gun control legislation soon explain what they mean and it's not defending BHO.

Do any of you even follow the Fast and Furious thread? Anyone who has been paying attention to that knows BHO is not a friend of the 2A.

I'd like to see just one of you make a rational post about how new gun control laws are going to make it to Obama for his signature. And Obama riding in on a unicorn to change the world with executive orders does not count.

The reason I argue with you drama queens is that this web site tends to come up pretty high in Google searches. It makes us look like a bunch of nuts when people go all chicken little and clearly don't know the basic structure of our government.

I know you all mean well. And I would be a little more civil in these threads if I wasn't regularly called delusional, or whatever name, for trying to have a rational discussion.


If I do a search of the thousands of Romney threads where the Usual Suspects repeatedly say that he's going to magically ban guns, am I going to find multiple posts from you similar to your posts here?

Whether you like it or not, there are individuals here that have repeatedly written posts claiming Obama is not seeking an AWB.There are people reading the thread that are either too young to remember or were disinterested at the time to recall that he wanted an AWB prior to and after his election.

You've picked a very strange hill to die on.


I jump into one of these occasionally. So, you would find my participation sporadic but my message consistent. Since I do only participate sporadically, maybe I've missed all these people defending BHO. Can you post a couple links?

When I do read one of these threads, what normally pulls me in are the statements about BHO being able to create new law on his own.

I think it's very strange that you consider attempting to inject logical thought, and reality, to be strange. You seem like a fairly reasonable guy so I'm not sure how you don't see the nutty statements made by so many people in these threads.


I must have missed all of the Romney is gonna take yur gunz threads where you elicited as much passion as you have in this one.

You're not "injecting logical thought". You're getting bent out of shape over people stating that Obama wants to reinstate the Assault Weapon Ban. You're behavior is, once again, odd.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 7:38:22 AM EST
Originally Posted By iScream:.


Some folks need a logic injection in this thread:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1378675_Assault_Weapons_Bans_on_tonight_s_debate_.html&page=1

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 7:42:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
Its not going to happen


if obama wins a second term I have no doubt it will happen.


This WILL happen in a second Obama term, anyone who thinks otherwise is either a fool or have their head too far in the sand.


He is definitely going to show more of his true colors in his second term. I agree with you. He probably went quiet on this topic in his first term to keep from it affecting his re-election. But luckily the bastard slipped up in the debate last night.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 7:49:26 AM EST
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Its not going to happen


For all those who cling to the notion that Obamao will need a majority in the House and Senate:

Amnesty is on the docket for the Obamao administration... and when that goes through, there will be no further consequences for implementing communist tyranny, because there will no longer be enough conservative voters to elect conservative candidates. Evar.
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 8:00:02 AM EST
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:
Some of you have apparently been in fantasy land for the last four years, where you imagined people all over Arfcom claim that Obama doesn't want to take our guns. The fact is that very, very few people say that around here. Most people who say there won't be new gun control legislation soon explain what they mean and it's not defending BHO.

Do any of you even follow the Fast and Furious thread? Anyone who has been paying attention to that knows BHO is not a friend of the 2A.

I'd like to see just one of you make a rational post about how new gun control laws are going to make it to Obama for his signature. And Obama riding in on a unicorn to change the world with executive orders does not count.

The reason I argue with you drama queens is that this web site tends to come up pretty high in Google searches. It makes us look like a bunch of nuts when people go all chicken little and clearly don't know the basic structure of our government.

I know you all mean well. And I would be a little more civil in these threads if I wasn't regularly called delusional, or whatever name, for trying to have a rational discussion.


If I do a search of the thousands of Romney threads where the Usual Suspects repeatedly say that he's going to magically ban guns, am I going to find multiple posts from you similar to your posts here?

Whether you like it or not, there are individuals here that have repeatedly written posts claiming Obama is not seeking an AWB.There are people reading the thread that are either too young to remember or were disinterested at the time to recall that he wanted an AWB prior to and after his election.

You've picked a very strange hill to die on.


I jump into one of these occasionally. So, you would find my participation sporadic but my message consistent. Since I do only participate sporadically, maybe I've missed all these people defending BHO. Can you post a couple links?

When I do read one of these threads, what normally pulls me in are the statements about BHO being able to create new law on his own.

I think it's very strange that you consider attempting to inject logical thought, and reality, to be strange. You seem like a fairly reasonable guy so I'm not sure how you don't see the nutty statements made by so many people in these threads.


I must have missed all of the Romney is gonna take yur gunz threads where you elicited as much passion as you have in this one.

You're not "injecting logical thought". You're getting bent out of shape over people stating that Obama wants to reinstate the Assault Weapon Ban. You're behavior is, once again, odd.


You have to be kidding. I post about the way our government works and try to engage in a reasonable discussion. I also post factual information about Democratic members of the house and senate being concerned about their NRA ratings. I'm not the only one but I did dig in my heels a little on this one after the eating crow posts this morning.

The few statements I've seen about Romney taking guns seem to get knocked out pretty fast. And they don't end up with silly statements about him magically creating laws.

Getting bent out of shape is reading a factual post and responding with an emotional statement about me being delusional, or odd, because you can't make a factual counter argument. There is nothing emotional about my posts in this thread.

I assume your comments about something being "odd" are suggestions that I'm a secret Obama supporter. Is that what you're insinuating?
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 8:09:29 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dokgaebi:
Obama had four years to take away our guns, he proved that he's not after our guns.

Who knows what Romney will do if elected?
Hmmmmm.....

Just saying.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 8:13:51 AM EST
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:.


Some folks need a logic injection in this thread:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1378675_Assault_Weapons_Bans_on_tonight_s_debate_.html&page=1


Looks like there is some of that going on. Why don't you go make the same factual arguments you have made in this thread. Oh, wait. Well, you can still go tell them how odd they are.
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 8:29:00 AM EST
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The few statements I've seen about Romney taking guns seem to get knocked out pretty fast. And they don't end up with silly statements about him magically creating laws.


There are dozens- if not hundreds- of posts daily about how Romney is a socialist gun grabber who's going to ban guns. It's the same tribe of fanatics saying the same thing over and over and over again. They're not "knocked out pretty fast", and they contain the same crap about creating magical laws and how a strangely willing republican congress will go along with him.

"Few statements"?

I assume your comments about something being "odd" are suggestions that I'm a secret Obama supporter. Is that what you're insinuating?


If I felt that way, I would come out and call you an Obama supporter. I've certainly done that to other people who have a posting history of supporting - directly or indirectly- Obama. You've decided this particular issue is very important when it comes to Obama, and due to your absence, not important at all when it comes to Romney. That behavior is strange. YMMV


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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 8:30:50 AM EST
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Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:.


Some folks need a logic injection in this thread:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1378675_Assault_Weapons_Bans_on_tonight_s_debate_.html&page=1


Looks like there is some of that going on. Why don't you go make the same factual arguments you have made in this thread. Oh, wait. Well, you can still go tell them how odd they are.


You're obviously VERY concerned about the issue, you should be johnny-on-the-spot correcting them.

ETA: Shocked! Shocked I am to discover you didn't post in THAT thread

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 8:45:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:.


Some folks need a logic injection in this thread:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1378675_Assault_Weapons_Bans_on_tonight_s_debate_.html&page=1


Looks like there is some of that going on. Why don't you go make the same factual arguments you have made in this thread. Oh, wait. Well, you can still go tell them how odd they are.


You're obviously VERY concerned about the issue, you should be johnny-on-the-spot correcting them.

ETA: Shocked! Shocked I am to discover you didn't post in THAT thread


Remember when I said you seem like a reasonable guy earlier? Are you losing your friggin mind?
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 8:45:56 AM EST
everyone seems to think hat he plays by the rules, like that they must have a budget, (haven't had one in years)Jesus he has proven he will at least try and do whatever he can, and so far the republicans have been largely spineless and done little to nothing about it.

It is increasingly a single party system where the politicians care more for the spoils than the people. Sit there if you wish and believe that they wont wipe their asses with procedures, rules and the constitution. I however simply look at what has happened at Solyndra, GM, PFG Best, and MF global to realize that Holder and the Obama administration feel they are above the law. There is so far no right winged politician with the balls to do shit about it.

Quit thinking that somehow these rules will mean shit when push comes to shove. Look what happened to Obama Care and the supreme court. Wake up!


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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 9:02:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:.


Some folks need a logic injection in this thread:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1378675_Assault_Weapons_Bans_on_tonight_s_debate_.html&page=1


Looks like there is some of that going on. Why don't you go make the same factual arguments you have made in this thread. Oh, wait. Well, you can still go tell them how odd they are.


You're obviously VERY concerned about the issue, you should be johnny-on-the-spot correcting them.

ETA: Shocked! Shocked I am to discover you didn't post in THAT thread


Go read it now. It's your turn to contribute something other than chicken little bullshit.
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 9:22:40 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:.


Some folks need a logic injection in this thread:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1378675_Assault_Weapons_Bans_on_tonight_s_debate_.html&page=1


Looks like there is some of that going on. Why don't you go make the same factual arguments you have made in this thread. Oh, wait. Well, you can still go tell them how odd they are.


You're obviously VERY concerned about the issue, you should be johnny-on-the-spot correcting them.

ETA: Shocked! Shocked I am to discover you didn't post in THAT thread


Remember when I said you seem like a reasonable guy earlier? Are you losing your friggin mind?


Of course I am. Everyone that doesn't stop talking about Obama wanting to renew the AWB is losing their mind.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 9:25:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:.


Some folks need a logic injection in this thread:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1378675_Assault_Weapons_Bans_on_tonight_s_debate_.html&page=1


Looks like there is some of that going on. Why don't you go make the same factual arguments you have made in this thread. Oh, wait. Well, you can still go tell them how odd they are.


You're obviously VERY concerned about the issue, you should be johnny-on-the-spot correcting them.

ETA: Shocked! Shocked I am to discover you didn't post in THAT thread


Go read it now. It's your turn to contribute something other than chicken little bullshit.


I was referring to the multitude of "R-money's gonna take yer gunz" posts that litter the site.

But you knew that.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 9:30:54 AM EST
Oh look Martha! More people that think Rmoney is gonna stealz teh gunz! They need a logic injection stat!

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1378633_DU_thinks_obama_messed_up_talking_guns.html&page=2&anc=bottom#bottom

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 9:40:10 AM EST
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Oh look Martha! More people that think Rmoney is gonna stealz teh gunz! They need a logic injection stat!

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1378633_DU_thinks_obama_messed_up_talking_guns.html&page=2&anc=bottom#bottom


Dude, post something of substance or fuck off. You tried calling me out about not posting in the first thread you linked. I posted in there with exactly what I say every time I jump into one of these, except I gave the complete outline. Go in there and make a valid point as to why I'm wrong.

You're acting like a butthurt nut.
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 9:41:12 AM EST
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Quit thinking that somehow these rules will mean shit when push comes to shove. Look what happened to Obama Care and the supreme court. Wake up!



Do you recall how ObamaCare became law?
Was it enacted by Presidential decree? Or was it passed because the Democrats had a majority in the House and 60 votes in the Senate?

Anyone who thinks that the President (whoever he is) can enact citizen disarmament legislation without the approval of Congress needs to go back to high school and punch his civics teacher.

Anyone who thinks the Democrats would pass citizen disarmament legislation (if they could) without substantial support from the Republicans hasn't learned the lessons the democrats learned.

Anyone who thinks that the majority of Republicans will support citizen disarmament legislation under the current circumstances needs to get a grip on reality.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 10:10:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Oh look Martha! More people that think Rmoney is gonna stealz teh gunz! They need a logic injection stat!

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1378633_DU_thinks_obama_messed_up_talking_guns.html&page=2&anc=bottom#bottom


Dude, post something of substance or fuck off. You tried calling me out about not posting in the first thread you linked. I posted in there with exactly what I say every time I jump into one of these, except I gave the complete outline. Go in there and make a valid point as to why I'm wrong.

You're acting like a butthurt nut.


What is "one of these" and what do you do when you jump into one of them? You defended Obama. You didn't defend Romney in the hundreds of threads claiming he's going to ban guns. It's not difficult.

Now, make sure you respond with some more of those highly logical insults.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 10:19:04 AM EST
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Oh look Martha! More people that think Rmoney is gonna stealz teh gunz! They need a logic injection stat!

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1378633_DU_thinks_obama_messed_up_talking_guns.html&page=2&anc=bottom#bottom


Dude, post something of substance or fuck off. You tried calling me out about not posting in the first thread you linked. I posted in there with exactly what I say every time I jump into one of these, except I gave the complete outline. Go in there and make a valid point as to why I'm wrong.

You're acting like a butthurt nut.


You defended Obama.


I have to assume you aren't even aware who you are arguing with now. You are flat out delirious if you think I have defended Obama. I've have repeatedly stated that I do believe Obama wants to take our guns.
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 10:27:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Oh look Martha! More people that think Rmoney is gonna stealz teh gunz! They need a logic injection stat!

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1378633_DU_thinks_obama_messed_up_talking_guns.html&page=2&anc=bottom#bottom


Dude, post something of substance or fuck off. You tried calling me out about not posting in the first thread you linked. I posted in there with exactly what I say every time I jump into one of these, except I gave the complete outline. Go in there and make a valid point as to why I'm wrong.

You're acting like a butthurt nut.


You defended Obama.


I have to assume you aren't even aware who you are arguing with now. You are flat out delirious if you think I have defended Obama. I've have repeatedly stated that I do believe Obama wants to take our guns.


I really don't give a flying fuck who you are or think you are, in this particular thread on this particular issue you are defending Obama. If you had a history of bouncing amongst the hundreds of Romeny threads doing the same for him, I simply haven't seen it.

Now, I don't believe you're actually an Obamabot, I think it's pure pig-headed huubris that's keeping you digging the hole deeper.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 10:35:11 AM EST
Originally Posted By Dokgaebi:
Obama had four years to take away our guns, he proved that he's not after our guns.

Who knows what Romney will do if elected?
Hmmmmm.....

Just saying.


He didn't because he wanted a second term if he gets reelected kiss the current gun market goodbye. Executive orders will take care of everything.
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 10:46:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Oh look Martha! More people that think Rmoney is gonna stealz teh gunz! They need a logic injection stat!

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1378633_DU_thinks_obama_messed_up_talking_guns.html&page=2&anc=bottom#bottom


Dude, post something of substance or fuck off. You tried calling me out about not posting in the first thread you linked. I posted in there with exactly what I say every time I jump into one of these, except I gave the complete outline. Go in there and make a valid point as to why I'm wrong.

You're acting like a butthurt nut.


You defended Obama.


I have to assume you aren't even aware who you are arguing with now. You are flat out delirious if you think I have defended Obama. I've have repeatedly stated that I do believe Obama wants to take our guns.


I really don't give a flying fuck who you are or think you are, in this particular thread on this particular issue you are defending Obama. If you had a history of bouncing amongst the hundreds of Romeny threads doing the same for him, I simply haven't seen it.

Now, I don't believe you're actually an Obamabot, I think it's pure pig-headed huubris that's keeping you digging the hole deeper.


That didn't mean I think I'm special and how dare you argue with me. That meant you must be confused about who you are replying to, because I have in no way defended Obama.

I think I'm the guy arguing with an irrational person who hasn't contributed anything except personal attacks. I hate to break this to you, but it's kinda fun seeing you flip out and attack me with more and more outrageous claims.

What hole am I digging deeper? Your butt hurt is obviously getting deeper and deeper but that's about the only thing happening in this thread right now.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 10:52:50 AM EST
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Executive orders will take care of everything.


You mean like the Executive Orders which Clinton signed which eliminated civillian ownership of firearms starting the day after he was re-elected?

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 12:28:04 PM EST
Originally Posted By iScream:


That didn't mean I think I'm special and how dare you argue with me. That meant you must be confused about who you are replying to, because I have in no way defended Obama.

I think I'm the guy arguing with an irrational person who hasn't contributed anything except personal attacks. I hate to break this to you, but it's kinda fun seeing you flip out and attack me with more and more outrageous claims.

What hole am I digging deeper? Your butt hurt is obviously getting deeper and deeper but that's about the only thing happening in this thread right now.



Dude, the "everyone is butthurt except for me" schtick is old, tired and worn out. For the 45th time, you're running around here calling people names and trying to shut them up for repeating what Obama said on live fucking television, and you do not apply the same standard to the hundreds of Romney threads we've had. It's 100% hypocritical. When it's pointed out that people actually think the the Kenyan is good for guns, you dismiss that. When it's pointed out that hundreds of posts claiming Romney will perform some sort of voodoo and ban guns, you pretend they don't exist. ... Seriously... Stop it.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 12:38:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
Its not going to happen


if obama wins a second term I have no doubt it will happen.


This WILL happen in a second Obama term, anyone who thinks otherwise is either a fool or have their head too far in the sand.


Agreed, no matter how the House and Senate go he will get it done one way or another. He must in order to progress closer to a totalitarian gov't. Those who are saying it will never happen or are depending on the courts to save us are just plain fools, sorry. If he wins we are in real trouble as patriotic citizens day one, no doubt.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 12:50:44 PM EST
Won't affect me at all; I live in Connecticut.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 12:59:38 PM EST
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:


That didn't mean I think I'm special and how dare you argue with me. That meant you must be confused about who you are replying to, because I have in no way defended Obama.

I think I'm the guy arguing with an irrational person who hasn't contributed anything except personal attacks. I hate to break this to you, but it's kinda fun seeing you flip out and attack me with more and more outrageous claims.

What hole am I digging deeper? Your butt hurt is obviously getting deeper and deeper but that's about the only thing happening in this thread right now.



Dude, the "everyone is butthurt except for me" schtick is old, tired and worn out. For the 45th time, you're running around here calling people names and trying to shut them up for repeating what Obama said on live fucking television, and you do not apply the same standard to the hundreds of Romney threads we've had. It's 100% hypocritical. When it's pointed out that people actually think the the Kenyan is good for guns, you dismiss that. When it's pointed out that hundreds of posts claiming Romney will perform some sort of voodoo and ban guns, you pretend they don't exist. ... Seriously... Stop it.


Aw, it looks like I may have my own personal troll in this thread. He's so cute too.

But, once again, I have to assume you are getting me mixed up with someone else. Go back to the start of this thread and read the damn thing. I just did and I didn't start the insult slinging in here. And I've been pretty light with my replies when others threw out stupid insults, until you started hounding me and accusing me of doing shit I didn't do.

In fact, the thread didn't really get confrontational until you started flipping out at the very end of page three. I have done very little name calling in here. THE PERSONAL ATTACKS WERE STARTED BY YOU.

YOU invented this whole idea that I'm arguing with people all over the place for saying Obama wants to ban guns. What I have said, a couple times, is no shit sherlock, we already knew Obama is anti gun. If you don't like someone saying that, why don't you go act nutty in this thread?

You really, really need to go back, read through the first few pages and realize how ridiculous you sound with your accusations.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 1:11:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By MIDGAPATRIOT:
Obama isn't coming after anything.

The GOVERNMENT is coming after our guns.

We need to stop focusing on the puppet they hang out in front of us and focus on the real threat.

OK. I'll bite...

How is the GOVERNMENT coming after our guns?

What is your plan to focus on the real threat?
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 1:20:24 PM EST
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Lies and bullshit.


I just went back and looked again, just to make sure I'm speaking the truth.

This thread started the morning of October 12th. Until you started trolling me, after the debate last night, I did not mention anything about whether Obama had made AWB statements before. I was not engaged in a single discussion about whether or not BHO is actually anti gun. Every post I made was related to people claiming BHO can do things the POTUS absolutely can not do.

Your ranting and attacks are based on absolute bullshit, which you concocted.
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 1:29:39 PM EST
Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:


That didn't mean I think I'm special and how dare you argue with me. That meant you must be confused about who you are replying to, because I have in no way defended Obama.

I think I'm the guy arguing with an irrational person who hasn't contributed anything except personal attacks. I hate to break this to you, but it's kinda fun seeing you flip out and attack me with more and more outrageous claims.

What hole am I digging deeper? Your butt hurt is obviously getting deeper and deeper but that's about the only thing happening in this thread right now.



Dude, the "everyone is butthurt except for me" schtick is old, tired and worn out. For the 45th time, you're running around here calling people names and trying to shut them up for repeating what Obama said on live fucking television, and you do not apply the same standard to the hundreds of Romney threads we've had. It's 100% hypocritical. When it's pointed out that people actually think the the Kenyan is good for guns, you dismiss that. When it's pointed out that hundreds of posts claiming Romney will perform some sort of voodoo and ban guns, you pretend they don't exist. ... Seriously... Stop it.


Aw, it looks like I may have my own personal troll in this thread. He's so cute too.

But, once again, I have to assume you are getting me mixed up with someone else. Go back to the start of this thread and read the damn thing. I just did and I didn't start the insult slinging in here. And I've been pretty light with my replies when others threw out stupid insults, until you started hounding me and accusing me of doing shit I didn't do.

In fact, the thread didn't really get confrontational until you started flipping out at the very end of page three. I have done very little name calling in here. THE PERSONAL ATTACKS WERE STARTED BY YOU.

YOU invented this whole idea that I'm arguing with people all over the place for saying Obama wants to ban guns. What I have said, a couple times, is no shit sherlock, we already knew Obama is anti gun. If you don't like someone saying that, why don't you go act nutty in this thread?

You really, really need to go back, read through the first few pages and realize how ridiculous you sound with your accusations.



I did read it, which is why I gave you the benefit of the doubt when you ignored the multitude of Romney threads, and decided to die on this particular hill. I was simply asking for some consistency but you throw a tantrum over the thought of that.

You were going bonkers earlier in the thread when you discovered that people do not agree with you, but this was the post where you came unhinged.http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1376904_Obama_is_coming_after_our_guns_____PROOF_INSIDE.html&page=4#i36140584 "fantasy world", not making "rational posts", "drama queens", "nuts", "chicken littles". You lost the high ground.

I guess you think continually insulting people until they leave you alone is some sort of victory.


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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 1:37:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Lies and bullshit.


I just went back and looked again, just to make sure I'm speaking the truth.

This thread started the morning of October 12th. Until you started trolling me, after the debate last night, I did not mention anything about whether Obama had made AWB statements before. I was not engaged in a single discussion about whether or not BHO is actually anti gun. Every post I made was related to people claiming BHO can do things the POTUS absolutely can not do.

Your ranting and attacks are based on absolute bullshit, which you concocted.


I concocted your lack of participation in Romney threads making sure to quell the hysterical cries of the nutter chicken littles claiming Romney is going to wave his magic stick and ban guns?

Respond back with more insults while claiming everyone is picking on you.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 1:38:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By MyName1sMud:
•Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.


http://change.gov/agenda/urbanpolicy_agenda/

DAT MOTHERFUCKER!


I just checked the wayback machine and this statement has been there all along. They have multiple snapshots, starting in 2008.

http://archive.org/web/web.php
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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 1:39:14 PM EST
I have no doubt he will if given a second term.

USA Today had a story about how the victims of the Aurora incident wanted to hear more about gun control. You can bet Obama and his administration would love to rail on the Second Amendment, but with the election and Fast and Furious they don't want to go there right now. However, in a second term I'm fairly certain they'll go right after the Second Amendment and likely by the end of 2013.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 1:52:04 PM EST
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:

Dude, the "everyone is butthurt except for me" schtick is old, tired and worn out. For the 45th time, you're running around here calling people names and trying to shut them up for repeating what Obama said on live fucking television, and you do not apply the same standard to the hundreds of Romney threads we've had. It's 100% hypocritical. When it's pointed out that people actually think the the Kenyan is good for guns, you dismiss that. When it's pointed out that hundreds of posts claiming Romney will perform some sort of voodoo and ban guns, you pretend they don't exist. ... Seriously... Stop it.


Aw, it looks like I may have my own personal troll in this thread. He's so cute too.

But, once again, I have to assume you are getting me mixed up with someone else. Go back to the start of this thread and read the damn thing. I just did and I didn't start the insult slinging in here. And I've been pretty light with my replies when others threw out stupid insults, until you started hounding me and accusing me of doing shit I didn't do.

In fact, the thread didn't really get confrontational until you started flipping out at the very end of page three. I have done very little name calling in here. THE PERSONAL ATTACKS WERE STARTED BY YOU.

YOU invented this whole idea that I'm arguing with people all over the place for saying Obama wants to ban guns. What I have said, a couple times, is no shit sherlock, we already knew Obama is anti gun. If you don't like someone saying that, why don't you go act nutty in this thread?

You really, really need to go back, read through the first few pages and realize how ridiculous you sound with your accusations.



I did read it, which is why I gave you the benefit of the doubt when you ignored the multitude of Romney threads, and decided to die on this particular hill. I was simply asking for some consistency but you throw a tantrum over the thought of that.

You were going bonkers earlier in the thread when you discovered that people do not agree with you, but this was the post where you came unhinged.http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1376904_Obama_is_coming_after_our_guns_____PROOF_INSIDE.html&page=4#i36140584 "fantasy world", not making "rational posts", "drama queens", "nuts", "chicken littles". You lost the high ground.

I guess you think continually insulting people until they leave you alone is some sort of victory.


Look, troll, read the fucking thread. You are completely full of shit if you say I was insulting people before last night. Since last night, it's pretty much just been you. You started this shit and now your butt hurt ass can't let it go. Believing that I have become "unhinged" at any point in this thread, suggests you need to take your medication.

I haven't ignored Romney threads any more or less than I have chicken little Obama has magic powers threads. I don't even click on most of them, unless they have a catchy title, as this one did.

My minor rant to the drama queens was in response to a few people claiming that anyone in this thread had any crow to eat. By the way, check the link I just posted, showing that the entire premise of this thread is wrong.

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 1:54:20 PM EST
UN small arms treaty anyone? Of course, the left tells us that treaty won't override our Constitution so I guess it's ok!

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Link Posted: 10/17/2012 1:55:25 PM EST
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By iScream:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Lies and bullshit.


I just went back and looked again, just to make sure I'm speaking the truth.

This thread started the morning of October 12th. Until you started trolling me, after the debate last night, I did not mention anything about whether Obama had made AWB statements before. I was not engaged in a single discussion about whether or not BHO is actually anti gun. Every post I made was related to people claiming BHO can do things the POTUS absolutely can not do.

Your ranting and attacks are based on absolute bullshit, which you concocted.


I concocted your lack of participation in Romney threads making sure to quell the hysterical cries of the nutter chicken littles claiming Romney is going to wave his magic stick and ban guns?

Respond back with more insults while claiming everyone is picking on you.


Another invention of your, apparently in need of medication, mind. I have not claimed that everyone is picking on me a single time, or even suggested anything like that. You are my one and only special little troll in this thread. But you suck at it. I expect better if you want me to keep feeding you.
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